The only part I watched was the tribute to Nippy. Was it just me, or did Beyonce seem like she was the star of the tribute? Why the camera focused on her so often during the tribute? That irritated the shit out of me!!!

I look forward to seeing the Donna Summer Tribute by Chante Moore, Whitney's Tribute, Maze feat. Frankie Beverly Tribute. That's about it.

Maybe before the day is out we can get some quality YT video's. Just saw someone's poorly recorded TV video of D'Angelo's performance. I think I'll wait on the rest.

BET's website has some video but it didn't sync well with my laptop.

First of all, I was surprised that BET even bothered to tribute Donna. I was estatic that they asked Chante to perform it instead of you-know-who.

kitbradley said:

First of all, I was surprised that BET even bothered to tribute Donna. I was estatic that they asked Chante to perform it instead of you-know-who.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did ask Beyonce to perform. I can see her telling them they're lucky she and her family was even going to be attendance. In other words, "I'm just here to collect my awards." I'm sure Chante's gorgeous self did just fine.

Musicslave said:

kitbradley said:

First of all, I was surprised that BET even bothered to tribute Donna. I was estatic that they asked Chante to perform it instead of you-know-who.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did ask Beyonce to perform. I can see her telling them they're lucky she and her family was even going to be attendance. In other words, "I'm just here to collect my awards." I'm sure Chante's gorgeous self did just fine.

She sure did.

missfee said:

silverchild said:

Guy has alot of problems. I just don't see what he sees in Kim Kardashian at all. Another publicity stunt to garner some controversy, I guess.

You said it. He don't see nothing in Kim but publicity at the moment. I think Kanye knows his music lately has been waning to the side rails and needs Kim to kind of plop him up in the media...for now. Until he makes relevant music again. A blind man can clearly see the disconnection of chemistry between him and Kim, so it's not going to last very long. You can see the discomfort all over Kim's face as well. Even though I don't care for Bey, you can see that there is chemistry there between her and Jay. They don't even be all hugged up on each other or constantly PDA-ing at all, but you can tell that they are comfy with each other.

Coonye got nothin on Hov and Kim K ain't seein Bey never.

I ain't here for the bootleg Diddy & J.Lo either.

i enjoyed the Frankie Beverly tribute, but his voice sounded kind of shot. Not sure if that was a consequence of his demanding summer tour schedule, or aging or what.

missfee said:

Musicslave said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they did ask Beyonce to perform. I can see her telling them they're lucky she and her family was even going to be attendance. In other words, "I'm just here to collect my awards." I'm sure Chante's gorgeous self did just fine.

She sure did.

Chante never disappoints.

Terrib3Towel said:

I was surprised Beyonce and Jay Z showed up at all. I didn't watch last year, but I don't think they were there. I think they did so just so Kim and Kanye could get some shine. I swear the camera people got special instruction to pan on those four people the whole damn night. And Kimmy K was SUPER uncomfortable. You'd think as much as she likes black dick she would like black music. I guess not.

Hahaha it was really strange they were there because they usually dont attend awards together & def don't get filmed like they did yesterday (it was annoying as hell!)....

I know! lol... Kim looked very misplaced and lost.... I can't wait till this fake ass relationship is over...

afro75 said:

i enjoyed the Frankie Beverly tribute, but his voice sounded kind of shot. Not sure if that was a consequence of his demanding summer tour schedule, or aging or what.

Possibly both. To be honest, his voice has been like this within the past couple of years or so. I remember hearing him on the Tom Joyner Morning show Sky show a year or so ago, maybe two, but his voice sounded just like it did last night. I saw them live about 5 years ago and he was amazing. They all were. I love them and all, and don't want to complain too much because they've paid their dues, but he didn't sound his best at all last night. I'm just glad that he's still alive and performing.

So was Prince the only EBT Lifetime Achievement recipient who DIDN'T perform when they received their award? I remember Al Green, The Isley Bros., and Gladys Knight all performed when they received theirs but can't remember if there were any recipients other than Prince who didn't perform.

silverchild said:

missfee said:

You aren't alone. Even though I'm a fan of his, sometimes I'm really on the fence about him. For some reason, I wasn't feeling "The Throne" enough to purchase it. I heard the snippets and some songs are okay (I actually do like "No church in the wild") but it just didn't grab me enough to buy the whole album. Not like his first few efforts did, I mean I literally ran on my lunch break to buy his cd's the first day they came out...now it's like . I think what he really needs is a break, a vacation, maybe 6 months to a year for him to really sit down, calm down, and come back to the creative place he was at when he released his first few albums....BUT I think he's afraid to take a break, honestly. He's had many chances to do just that, but chose not to. Just my take on it.

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Dude needs a reality check. He needs to come back to Earth. I miss the sweater-wearing, mascot, Black-positivity/unity KanYe. Not this excess admiration crap he's pushing out now.

Two words: Jay Z and Beyonce....

He was NOTHING like that before he started hanging around them. What I think what has happened is he has let Jay get in his ear as far as promotion and the kind of music he should make and I think he has allowed that to influence him. I am not saying they control him but he was NOT make the shit hop he makes now before hanging with Jay Z... just no.

Watch the throne was some straight pop promotion garbage

silverchild said:

shorttrini said:

I could not have said it better, myself, Missfee!! His mother was his rock, is point of stability. When she passed, he lost it and lost a piece of him. Because he is in the public eye he could not really grieve, which made it worse. I don't wanna be around, the day that he REALLY crashes. It will be a mess.

Plus, I think he had a breakdown when that model he was engaged to called the wedding off, right after the death of his mother. Just a sad story. Kanye has always had an ego about him, but the arrogance has increased at an all-new high.

I dont know what model ya'll are talking about ? The" love" of his life was Alexis , a fashion designer and Kanye was the one who broke it off after 6 years and even wanting the ring back lol. He was hella cold to that girl and he hasnt find anyone like her ever since. I've been a fan since 2002 when I heard the bounce on Jay-z album. He's always had a HUGE ego and always been very arrogant but he produced better music back then, as for his rapping; we all know that he used ghostwriters for his first albums (consequence was one of them and didnt get any credit for it). Since 808s & heartbreak his sound changed with the help of Kid Cudi, who co-wrote & produced 4 songs (the most famous ones) same with MBDTF album. I think Kanye should just start focusing on his producing skills, because even tho he thinks he's the best - he's nowhere near Pete Rock, J Dilla, Dre, Q-Tip and other great hiphop producers.

I honestly think he should go to a shrink and talk out all those frustrations he has, because I know Kim aint the solution for his problems.

GoldDolphin said:

Terrib3Towel said:

I was surprised Beyonce and Jay Z showed up at all. I didn't watch last year, but I don't think they were there. I think they did so just so Kim and Kanye could get some shine. I swear the camera people got special instruction to pan on those four people the whole damn night. And Kimmy K was SUPER uncomfortable. You'd think as much as she likes black dick she would like black music. I guess not.

Hahaha it was really strange they were there because they usually dont attend awards together & def don't get filmed like they did yesterday (it was annoying as hell!)....

I know! lol... Kim looked very misplaced and lost.... I can't wait till this fake ass relationship is over...

Whenever Beyonce attends BET awards... BET ALWAYS focuses on her and makes her the center of attention, this isnt something new.

Last night it was just blantly obvious and the funny thing is nobody really cares... Who gives a fuck that she was there to receive her usual made up awards specially made for her just because she was showing up. The best parts were when they showed other acts like Ginuwine, the girl from the Parkers, Meagon Good.. when they showed OTHER celebrities there sincerely having a good time during the tributes not just showing off for the camera.

I would have loved to see Kim K reaction I didnt see it...

mjscarousal said:

silverchild said:

Dude needs a reality check. He needs to come back to Earth. I miss the sweater-wearing, mascot, Black-positivity/unity KanYe. Not this excess admiration crap he's pushing out now.

Two words: Jay Z and Beyonce....

He was NOTHING like that before he started hanging around them. What I think what has happened is he has let Jay get in his ear as far as promotion and the kind of music he should make and I think he has allowed that to influence him. I am not saying they control him but he was NOT make the shit hop he makes now before hanging with Jay Z... just no.

Watch the throne was some straight pop promotion garbage

Def don't agree with that statement. Kanye has ALWAYS been a douchebag, he dissed consequence (who ghostwrote his hits), he left his friends in Chicago and never called them back when he got big. He changed his number so people wouldn't talk to him. And that's not true at all, Kanye produced some of the best material for Jay-z and they've been collaborating since The Blueprint ( Izzo H.O.V.A was produced by Kanye) 2001. Kanye was the one who changed his sound in 2007 with Graduation, being influenced by his friends in Europe and wanting to be the "new Michael Jackson" meaning have a larger fanbase outside the hiphop community, so he tried to go pop. And Jay did the song DOA with Kanye cuz of all the t-pain shit goin on during 08-09, so it aint Jay who changed - it was Kanye.

e missfee said:

afro75 said:

i enjoyed the Frankie Beverly tribute, but his voice sounded kind of shot. Not sure if that was a consequence of his demanding summer tour schedule, or aging or what.

Possibly both. To be honest, his voice has been like this within the past couple of years or so. I remember hearing him on the Tom Joyner Morning show Sky show a year or so ago, maybe two, but his voice sounded just like it did last night. I saw them live about 5 years ago and he was amazing. They all were. I love them and all, and don't want to complain too much because they've paid their dues, but he didn't sound his best at all last night. I'm just glad that he's still alive and performing.

To be honest, Im not mad at Frankie because he payed his dues. However he didnt necessarily have to perform being aware of his voice but he still had the party rocking...

But was the Whitney tribute good? Because I didnt see it.

GoldDolphin said:

mjscarousal said:

Two words: Jay Z and Beyonce....

He was NOTHING like that before he started hanging around them. What I think what has happened is he has let Jay get in his ear as far as promotion and the kind of music he should make and I think he has allowed that to influence him. I am not saying they control him but he was NOT make the shit hop he makes now before hanging with Jay Z... just no.

Watch the throne was some straight pop promotion garbage

Def don't agree with that statement. Kanye has ALWAYS been a douchebag, he dissed consequence (who ghostwrote his hits), he left his friends in Chicago and never called them back when he got big. He changed his number so people wouldn't talk to him. And that's not true at all, Kanye produced some of the best material for Jay-z and they've been collaborating since The Blueprint ( Izzo H.O.V.A was produced by Kanye) 2001. Kanye was the one who changed his sound in 2007 with Graduation, being influenced by his friends in Europe and wanting to be the "new Michael Jackson" meaning have a larger fanbase outside the hiphop community, so he tried to go pop. And Jay did the song DOA with Kanye cuz of all the t-pain shit goin on during 08-09, so it aint Jay who changed - it was Kanye.

Kanye was the one who changed it up constantly and constantly. He has done alot of messed up things, and understandably wanted to expand his sound. The problem now is that it is getting derivative with no substance. I peeped how he kept throwing all of these pop culture figures and catchphrases around during the G.O.O.D. Music performance last night and it just didn't stick.

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GoldDolphin said:

mjscarousal said:

Two words: Jay Z and Beyonce....

He was NOTHING like that before he started hanging around them. What I think what has happened is he has let Jay get in his ear as far as promotion and the kind of music he should make and I think he has allowed that to influence him. I am not saying they control him but he was NOT make the shit hop he makes now before hanging with Jay Z... just no.

Watch the throne was some straight pop promotion garbage

Def don't agree with that statement. Kanye has ALWAYS been a douchebag, he dissed consequence (who ghostwrote his hits), he left his friends in Chicago and never called them back when he got big. He changed his number so people wouldn't talk to him. And that's not true at all, Kanye produced some of the best material for Jay-z and they've been collaborating since The Blueprint ( Izzo H.O.V.A was produced by Kanye) 2001. Kanye was the one who changed his sound in 2007 with Graduation, being influenced by his friends in Europe and wanting to be the "new Michael Jackson" meaning have a larger fanbase outside the hiphop community, so he tried to go pop. And Jay did the song DOA with Kanye cuz of all the t-pain shit goin on during 08-09, so it aint Jay who changed - it was Kanye.

I said musically not personality wise.

And this is not about the production in he did FOR Jay. We are talking about his own individual material which has been straight garbage over the last couple of years. I never denied the boy has talent. THAT is why people bag him because he is so much better than that. As far as his personality, alot of that has to do with his mother's passing like most have already said.

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GoldDolphin said:

But was the Whitney tribute good? Because I didnt see it.

I am the biggest BET hater but I must say they put on a very classy tribute for Whitney. Cissy took us to church and had everyone in tears.

Melanie Fiona had a wonderful performance and it looks like she's getting overlooked again. Poor thing.

mjscarousal said:

GoldDolphin said:

Def don't agree with that statement. Kanye has ALWAYS been a douchebag, he dissed consequence (who ghostwrote his hits), he left his friends in Chicago and never called them back when he got big. He changed his number so people wouldn't talk to him. And that's not true at all, Kanye produced some of the best material for Jay-z and they've been collaborating since The Blueprint ( Izzo H.O.V.A was produced by Kanye) 2001. Kanye was the one who changed his sound in 2007 with Graduation, being influenced by his friends in Europe and wanting to be the "new Michael Jackson" meaning have a larger fanbase outside the hiphop community, so he tried to go pop. And Jay did the song DOA with Kanye cuz of all the t-pain shit goin on during 08-09, so it aint Jay who changed - it was Kanye.

I said musically not personality wise.

And this is not about the production in he did FOR Jay. We are talking about his own individual material which has been straight garbage over the last couple of years. I never denied the boy has talent. THAT is why people bag him because he is so much better than that. As far as his personality, alot of that has to do with his mother's passing like most have already said.

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Oh okay, and I meant both musically & personality wise. Kanye changed his own sound becuase he wanted a bigger fanbase

I agree partially, I'm a huge fan of his soul/r&b - J Dilla inspired work. However I'm a fan of Kid Cudis and those songs that he made with Kanye are the better ones. Welcome to Heartbreak, Heartless, Gorgeous, are all typical Cudi songs and those are the songs that people are praising for taking hiphop to another level, Kid Cudis songs are more melodic & since Cudi is a more diverse lyracist than Kanye west - the result is better. The problem Kanye is having right now is that he is trying to be this big superstar-fashion designer-jetsetter-out of this world artist, and it's not working becuase his own productions are not as good as they used to be. He should also be pushing Kid Cudi & Common instead of Big Sean, but he wants money and fame.

mjscarousal said:

GoldDolphin said:

But was the Whitney tribute good? Because I didnt see it.

I am the biggest BET hater but I must say they put on a very classy tribute for Whitney. Cissy took us to church and had everyone in tears.

I'll have to see it then , sounds like they did something good !

I'm just dissapointed they didnt have a proper tribute for Donna tho (except for Chanté Moores performance), I think they could have done something more. We're talking about the queen of disco (which isnt a good name for her because she was much more) and she only gets mentioned once? ...

GoldDolphin said:

mjscarousal said:

I said musically not personality wise.

And this is not about the production in he did FOR Jay. We are talking about his own individual material which has been straight garbage over the last couple of years. I never denied the boy has talent. THAT is why people bag him because he is so much better than that. As far as his personality, alot of that has to do with his mother's passing like most have already said.

[Edited 7/2/12 9:03am]

Oh okay, and I meant both musically & personality wise. Kanye changed his own sound becuase he wanted a bigger fanbase

I agree partially, I'm a huge fan of his soul/r&b - J Dilla inspired work. However I'm a fan of Kid Cudis and those songs that he made with Kanye are the better ones. Welcome to Heartbreak, Heartless, Gorgeous, are all typical Cudi songs and those are the songs that people are praising for taking hiphop to another level, Kid Cudis songs are more melodic & since Cudi is a more diverse lyracist than Kanye west - the result is better. The problem Kanye is having right now is that he is trying to be this big superstar-fashion designer-jetsetter-out of this world artist, and it's not working becuase his own productions are not as good as they used to be. He should also be pushing Kid Cudi & Common instead of Big Sean, but he wants money and fame.

Agree. Im not a Kanye West fan currently and even when his material was better I wasnt his biggest fan but he is definitly capable of alot more. Im more into Lupe, his the shitttt Kanye probably a better producer than he is a rapper.

Kid Cudi is not good at all to me.

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mjscarousal said:

GoldDolphin said:

Oh okay, and I meant both musically & personality wise. Kanye changed his own sound becuase he wanted a bigger fanbase

I agree partially, I'm a huge fan of his soul/r&b - J Dilla inspired work. However I'm a fan of Kid Cudis and those songs that he made with Kanye are the better ones. Welcome to Heartbreak, Heartless, Gorgeous, are all typical Cudi songs and those are the songs that people are praising for taking hiphop to another level, Kid Cudis songs are more melodic & since Cudi is a more diverse lyracist than Kanye west - the result is better. The problem Kanye is having right now is that he is trying to be this big superstar-fashion designer-jetsetter-out of this world artist, and it's not working becuase his own productions are not as good as they used to be. He should also be pushing Kid Cudi & Common instead of Big Sean, but he wants money and fame.

Agree. Im not a Kanye West fan currently and even when his material was better I wasnt his biggest fan but he is definitly capable of alot more. Im more into Lupe, his the shitttt His probably a better producer than he is a rapper.

Kid Cudi is not good at all to me.

Me neither.

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mjscarousal said:

GoldDolphin said:

Oh okay, and I meant both musically & personality wise. Kanye changed his own sound becuase he wanted a bigger fanbase

I agree partially, I'm a huge fan of his soul/r&b - J Dilla inspired work. However I'm a fan of Kid Cudis and those songs that he made with Kanye are the better ones. Welcome to Heartbreak, Heartless, Gorgeous, are all typical Cudi songs and those are the songs that people are praising for taking hiphop to another level, Kid Cudis songs are more melodic & since Cudi is a more diverse lyracist than Kanye west - the result is better. The problem Kanye is having right now is that he is trying to be this big superstar-fashion designer-jetsetter-out of this world artist, and it's not working becuase his own productions are not as good as they used to be. He should also be pushing Kid Cudi & Common instead of Big Sean, but he wants money and fame.

Agree. Im not a Kanye West fan currently and even when his material was better I wasnt his biggest fan but he is definitly capable of alot more. Im more into Lupe, his the shitttt His probably a better producer than he is a rapper.

Kid Cudi is not good at all to me.

Yeah Lupe used to be my man, I'll never forget when I saw him in 07 and got his shirt ... I just need to get him back to his old self.

Different taste for different people , the guy is talented tho and has done great stuff. Love the emo stuff, I can relate to much of his work ....

Kim looks so MISPLACED with her botoxed face!

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paisleypark4 said:

musicjunky318 said:

OMG Coonye get off the stage.

'Least he was saying something. All I heard was nigga this nigga that and ass quakes and hoes and bitch...I dunno I was done!!!!

Tough to defend that kind of hip hop.