missfee said:

silverchild said:

missfee said:

Oh I didn't follow him back when he first came out, when he was Mr. Innocent. I felt he was cheesy and his music is still cheesy now (except for "Dueces", I have to admit, that's a guilty pleasure )..needless to say, I've never been a real fan of Chris. But just like Cynickill said, when that whole Rhianna incident went down, I felt like it wasn't just him that made a mistake, Rhianna played just as much part in it as he did and that he was getting chastised as being the lone monster in situation. So I was rooting for him to turn his life around, but now he's just become this arrogant dickwad who got diarrhea of the mouth. He's not going to stop until he gets hurt...sadly.

Oh they both are crazy as hell and played a big part in the whole falling out. I don't listen to any of them, but we have to admit: money is the root of all evil and it has made all of them crazy. We can talk about the media and public scrunity, but the downfall of Chris, Rihanna, and the rest are themselves. No one else.

I agree.

Chris Brown is a lowlife Neanderthal. I'd love to see footage of him on the receiving end of a merciless ass kicking.

Identity said:

Chris Brown is a lowlife Neanderthal. I'd love to see footage of him on the receiving end of a merciless ass kicking.

That's the thing though.

I think Chris is going to get hurt badly or possibly die and the sad thing is that one of two things will happen:

a) People will ulogize him as a misunderstood manchild that we should've cut some slack while he was still alive.

or

b) People will be happy he's gone.

The problem is that Chris is an unsympathetic personality who's hard to defend. Still I didn't want to see him crash and burn and Michael Jackson might have something to do with it.

When Michael died the public sentiment turned my stomach. He was pretty much crucified while he was alive and now everyone was all sad and going on about how much they loved him. I forget who said it but it was prophetic; "Where was all this love when he was alive? When he really needed it?"

In the end it's a reeason why I don't mix the artist with the art, after all it is the music that matters. Michael was almost too nice. Too accomodating to the world and it's opinions. Chris just don't give a F! It's easy to see which personality type people can get behind.

CynicKill said:

Identity said:

Chris Brown is a lowlife Neanderthal. I'd love to see footage of him on the receiving end of a merciless ass kicking.

That's the thing though.

I think Chris is going to get hurt badly or possibly die and the sad thing is that one of two things will happen:

a) People will ulogize him as a misunderstood manchild that we should've cut some slack while he was still alive.

or

b) People will be happy he's gone.

The problem is that Chris is an unsympathetic personality who's hard to defend. Still I didn't want to see him crash and burn and Michael Jackson might have something to do with it.

When Michael died the public sentiment turned my stomach. He was pretty much crucified while he was alive and now everyone was all sad and going on about how much they loved him. I forget who said it but it was prophetic; "Where was all this love when he was alive? When he really needed it?"

In the end it's a reeason why I don't mix the artist with the art, after all it is the music that matters. Michael was almost too nice. Too accomodating to the world and it's opinions. Chris just don't give a F! It's easy to see which personality type people can get behind.

Not to mention blasting his music all loud...which I guess was paying "homage" to him. But go outside now, are they blasting his music so loud that it could break windows like they did the day (and week) he passed? Nope.

Chris Brown is so hard headed. Grow up, dude.

CynicKill said:

Well again here's a reason you don't compare artists. I can't even compare Chris Brown to JAMES Brown at this point.

Whatever was the motive of his career in the beginning all got lost when he went upside Rihanna's head one too many times and anything after that just makes him look worse and worse as time goes on. You think with all of his actions, he would get a life sentence just for cussing at an old lady in public because of just his outbursts.

Now there's tape showing his incredulousness.

Silverchild, what do you mean by this?:

Chris is a country boy. Not saying he was a thug, but look back at his story when he first came out...tells the story plain as day.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

Well again here's a reason you don't compare artists. I can't even compare Chris Brown to JAMES Brown at this point.

Whatever was the motive of his career in the beginning all got lost when he went upside Rihanna's head one too many times and anything after that just makes him look worse and worse as time goes on. You think with all of his actions, he would get a life sentence just for cussing at an old lady in public because of just his outbursts.

Now there's tape showing his incredulousness.

True point. In the world we live in, someone has to play a victim and someone has to play the criminal. It's "dog-eat-dog" all the time. But I'm just gonna put it like this: it's the same script, but a different cast.

Remember when Mike Tyson and Bobby Brown was in the press for doing just about the same dumbass shit? Chris is definitely in their shoes now. Guess their shoes are not too big to fill.

scriptgirl said:

silverchild said:

CynicKill said:

That's the thing though.

I think Chris is going to get hurt badly or possibly die and the sad thing is that one of two things will happen:

a) People will ulogize him as a misunderstood manchild that we should've cut some slack while he was still alive.

or

b) People will be happy he's gone.

The problem is that Chris is an unsympathetic personality who's hard to defend. Still I didn't want to see him crash and burn and Michael Jackson might have something to do with it.

When Michael died the public sentiment turned my stomach. He was pretty much crucified while he was alive and now everyone was all sad and going on about how much they loved him. I forget who said it but it was prophetic; "Where was all this love when he was alive? When he really needed it?"

In the end it's a reeason why I don't mix the artist with the art, after all it is the music that matters. Michael was almost too nice. Too accomodating to the world and it's opinions. Chris just don't give a F! It's easy to see which personality type people can get behind.

You lost me partially with this point. Yes, Michael was way too nice and giving, but what does the response of Michael's public image before and after his passing have to do with Chris' public image? Chris is clearly a person that can't easily be helped because for whatever reason, he doesn't see the destruction that he is causing himself. Excess is a bitch and he's wallowing in it. When you're young and you don't feel like you have to apologize for your mishaps, that's what you get. The money, power, and excess is fulfilling for some, but once you lose your sanity, you can't be helped. Like you said, he possesses an unsympathetic personality, which makes him hard to defend. I think the downfall of Chris is clearly his unwillingness to see where the destruction lies and how he can't tap into those demons.

Maybe I shouldn't have compared artist, but the point I suppose I was trying to make is that we should just cut these people some slack while they're alive. Just have more respect.

To me scenario a or b would be sad in Chris's case, and I can see it happening. Sad that we can't show love while someone is here, sadder that we're happy that something tragic has happened just to prove a point that yep, I was right Chris Brown was gonna slip up sooner or later and yep he sure did!

When Whitney died everyone was crying for respect. The question was why now? It's too late.

Sometimes my posts get away from me and the message becomes muddled. I hope this was more clear. But I am through supporting or following Chris.

P.S. I have a friend who BLASTED MJ from her house like a lunatic like missfee said. But I don't call her a real fan. She likes nothing from "Off The Wall" except "Rock With You", was unfamilair with "The Lady In My Life", and is not a fan of The Jackson Five! Huh?

silverchild said:

CynicKill said:

That's the thing though.

I think Chris is going to get hurt badly or possibly die and the sad thing is that one of two things will happen:

a) People will ulogize him as a misunderstood manchild that we should've cut some slack while he was still alive.

or

b) People will be happy he's gone.

The problem is that Chris is an unsympathetic personality who's hard to defend. Still I didn't want to see him crash and burn and Michael Jackson might have something to do with it.

When Michael died the public sentiment turned my stomach. He was pretty much crucified while he was alive and now everyone was all sad and going on about how much they loved him. I forget who said it but it was prophetic; "Where was all this love when he was alive? When he really needed it?"

In the end it's a reeason why I don't mix the artist with the art, after all it is the music that matters. Michael was almost too nice. Too accomodating to the world and it's opinions. Chris just don't give a F! It's easy to see which personality type people can get behind.

You lost me partially with this point. Yes, Michael was way too nice and giving, but what does the response of Michael's public image before and after his passing have to do with Chris' public image? Chris is clearly a person that can't easily be helped because for whatever reason, he doesn't see the destruction that he is causing himself. Excess is a bitch and he's wallowing in it. When you're young and you don't feel like you have to apologize for your mishaps, that's what you get. The money, power, and excess is fulfilling for some, but once you lose your sanity, you can't be helped. Like you said, he possesses an unsympathetic personality, which makes him hard to defend. I think the downfall of Chris is clearly his unwillingness to see where the destruction lies and how he can't tap into those demons.

Agree. I didnt quite understand that analogy either. Chris Brown and MJ are apples and chicken tenders. Totally different. Not to mention at the age Chris Brown is Michael NEVER acted like that or would publicly say the things Chris Brown does over Twitter. While I do think people do to much with bashing Chris Brown, personaliy wise, Chris Brown is a arrogant asshole.. Michael was not like that even with the shit he had to go through he still was sweet because thats who he was.

STOP COMPARING EVERYONE TO MICHAEL, ITS SO FUCKIN ANNOYING!

@CynicKill, I don't know... I get what you're TRYING to say but I think the reason for the mourning of Michael and Whitney was these artists actually symbolize a part of their childhood soundtracks and were larger than life, so larger than life that their low moments were just as epic as their high moments. Chris Brown wouldn't get the same sympathy if something happened to him. Most would probably be like "that loser". Maybe his fans would cry about him being "misunderstood" so I can't see the same thing happening to him that happened with Michael and Whitney (and even James Brown when he died). Folks would probably react like they did when they heard Ike Turner died from smoking the white pony: "ding dong that abusive bastard is dead! " They probably will say the same thing about Chrissy.

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CynicKill said:

Timmy84 said:

mjscarousal said:

silverchild said:

CynicKill said: You lost me partially with this point. Yes, Michael was way too nice and giving, but what does the response of Michael's public image before and after his passing have to do with Chris' public image? Chris is clearly a person that can't easily be helped because for whatever reason, he doesn't see the destruction that he is causing himself. Excess is a bitch and he's wallowing in it. When you're young and you don't feel like you have to apologize for your mishaps, that's what you get. The money, power, and excess is fulfilling for some, but once you lose your sanity, you can't be helped. Like you said, he possesses an unsympathetic personality, which makes him hard to defend. I think the downfall of Chris is clearly his unwillingness to see where the destruction lies and how he can't tap into those demons.

Agree. I didnt quite understand that analogy either. Chris Brown and MJ are apples and chicken tenders. Totally different. Not to mention at the age Chris Brown is Michael NEVER acted like that or would publicly say the things Chris Brown does over Twitter. While I do think people do to much with bashing Chris Brown, personaliy wise, Chris Brown is a arrogant asshole.. Michael was not like that even with the shit he had to go through he still was sweet because thats who he was.

STOP COMPARING EVERYONE TO MICHAEL, ITS SO FUCKIN ANNOYING!

I'll try but he fascinates me. His life, career and death encompasses so much about child stardom, the music industry, astronomic fame and it's affects that you can draw endless parallels.

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

@CynicKill, I don't know... I get what you're TRYING to say but I think the reason for the mourning of Michael and Whitney was these artists actually symbolize a part of their childhood soundtracks and were larger than life, so larger than life that their low moments were just as epic as their high moments. Chris Brown wouldn't get the same sympathy if something happened to him. Most would probably be like "that loser". Maybe his fans would cry about him being "misunderstood" so I can't see the same thing happening to him that happened with Michael and Whitney (and even James Brown when he died). Folks would probably react like they did when they heard Ike Turner died from smoking the white pony: "ding dong that abusive bastard is dead! " They probably will say the same thing about Chrissy.

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Absolutely. His core audience ("stans") would be the ones to go to the fullest for him. The thing that will always come up is that Chris' downturn happened in Feburary of 2009 and that he couldn't easily shake that. Prunes like Dr. Drew and all of these media platforms will have a field day if something happens to him. Times are just like that now.

And he will be discussed as a "cautionary tale". "See, kids? This is what happens when you act like a jackass all your career "

CynicKill said:

Yeah but let's keep this on Chris and Drake. I think people just love to compare it to Michael for whatever reasons be it good or bad.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

CynicKill said:

I'll try but he fascinates me. His life, career and death encompasses so much about child stardom, the music industry, astronomic fame and it's affects that you can draw endless parallels.

Just think like this: child stardom didn't necessarily kill Michael. It certainly played a role, sure. But in a larger scheme, excess and media's role of destroying his status as a national treasure killed Michael Joseph Jackson.

Unfornately...

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah but let's keep this on Chris and Drake. I think people just love to compare it to Michael for whatever reasons be it good or bad.

Umm hmm...ever since his passing, almost every unforunate or tragic turn that has happened to someone in the business has been compared to none other than Mr. Jackson. People need to quit. [Edited 6/14/12 19:06pm]

Yup!

I'll fix this.

This is the Twitter beef that started this whole mess (The aformention Drake calling Ri a ho comment):

Chris Brown, Meek Mill, And Drake Tweef Over Rihanna

By: Veet Dolla$ | 3 weeks ago

YES MORE TWITTER BEEF PLEASE! The twitter beef may be getting out of hand but i found this particular one hilarious. Chris Brown, Meek Mill, and Drake all beefing over Rihanna via twitter. Really fellas?

The ‘Beef’ if that’s what you want to call it, all started yesterday when Chris Brown tweeted:


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“She’s a dream chaser! There are alot of dreamers so she’ll be running forever!”

An obvious jab at Meek since his mixtape’s were Dream Chasers 1 and 2. Meek then responded with:


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“Dese chicks belong 2 da game….not u! Never get confused and think that’s all u!”

Meek and Breezy were supposed to do a song together but a few days before that meek tweeted a few words that let us know that wasn’t happening:


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“U took me off ya song cause she let me watch da throne!”

But getting back to the tweefing over Riri, of coursssseeee Drake had to chime in stating:


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“Oh that’s your ho? That’s our ho too. Lol”

NOT NICE! Lets see what Rihanna had to say about all this:


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“Typical. The best part is that EYE get to choose!”

I think she handled this situation well, she knows she got all these dudes wrapped around her finger anyway. Chris needs to stop pretending he’s moved on because he was even fooling me for a second, Meek said he had a girl and blogs be causing arguments between the 2 (welp what do you expect! Look what you feed into), and Drake…ehhh not much to say about u but mind your own business.

^ All this over that fivehead...

I'm certainly not gonna defend the idiotic Chris Brown, but I also think Drake is proving himself to be a trifling punk! Just to remind people, he already was in a feud with Common, they traded diss tracks and THEN got into a backstage fight at this year's Grammys, and allegedly part of the beef was over Serena Williams. I doubt anyone is afraid of Drake He better not mess with the person in the future...

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Shard said:

I'm certainly not gonna defend the idiotic Chris Brown, but I also think Drake is proving himself to be a trifling punk! Just to remind people, he already was in a feud with Common, they traded diss tracks and THEN got into a backstage fight at this year's Grammys, and allegedly part of the beef was over Serena Williams. I doubt anyone is afraid of Drake He better not mess with the person in the future...

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I think it's been covered that Drake is a punk ass bitch too. Drake actually tried to throw blows at Common?

Timmy84 said:

^ All this over that fivehead...

Must be sumtin special bout that caribbean pussy.

Shard said: