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Hell, Beyonce isn't even relevant anymore. | |
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WHO the hell is The Dream and WHY the hell hasn't anyone waken his good dreamin' ass up yet? I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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Hell, Beyonce isn't even relevant anymore. Yes she is | |
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NOt even goign to give him the time of day Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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She definitly peaked after 09 and her relevance has died down alot.
I think shes relevant in the sense people still kiss her ass but as far as the public giving a shit about her thats been over the rest is just HER PR | |
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And Bey has a great PR team that's good at making her and some of her "accomplishments" seem bigger than what she/they actually is/are.
YEP... Im not gonna lie that girl has the BEST PR known to man...
03-09 thats 7 years (not bad for todays industry but she has her PR to congrad for that) and if she was even remotely close to Michael status OR talent she would not have peaked so quickly... By 30 Michael had already released BAD and the mania was just getting started... It was 15 years before Michael exactly peaked MUSIC wise but even by then he was a legend...
This bitch couldnt sell out 50 concerts right now let alone at the age of 50 even if she tried. Ripping off Tina Turner is not going to get you but so far... you have to have a strong catalogue which is why non popular acts like Erykah Badu, Mint Condition, Jill Scott etc can still sale out shows..and something she doesnt have, and is going to hurt her in the long run as she slowly fades away. Nobody doesnt give a fuck about her but HER.
Shes so up her ass its not even funny. I dont even know how you can claim to be a fan of someone but go around telling your PR team to proclaim you as being BETTER than someone you were influenced by
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Thats so tackie and classless. When people tried to do that shit with Michael he was quick to say he was influenced by Astair, James etc and never implied he was better and was quick to address it.
So Beyonce and her people are claiming that she's better than Michael now? | |
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Delusional bitch right here
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yeah, drag king b | |
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When your biggest fan is Michelle Obama.
One might say that is irrelivant [Edited 5/30/12 13:56pm] | |
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The thing is that everyone (at least everyones PR people) does the same thing, by dropping a legends name in front and then using that to SELL their own selves. Because music is not relevant to most people anymore the HYPE technique has been the new normal. Take quotes like this, Beyonce is the greatest since Michael Jackson, not only is this insulting to MJ but insulting to everyone in between thats been amazing, but the trick is toss in a Legend (MICHAEL JACKSON) in front of Beyonces name and boom we are now sucked in to comparing the two. THeir are many occasions where this has been used, Kanye West saying that he and Justin Timberlake were the greatest battle since Prince and Michael, or Coldplay is the best thing since Radiohead, etc....everyones selling point now is to build off of the past, to me thats not carving your own path. Now like i said Beyonce is a very talented person and has good performing skills, but musically she is not very interesting. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Beyonce has talent thats about it, shes not very talented when her back up dancers out dance her and when Tina Turner is alive and well and can do her own routine better and did it back before she was even born, Yall hype Beyonce up WAYYYYY to much and Im tired of it
You said so yourself jumping up and down doesnt mean your a good entertainer and thats primarily ALL she does. Ive seen alot of Beyonce performances and find them all to be boring, not to mention she is cold and doesnt sing with emotion. She is as manufactered as it gets as a performer and there is nothing natural about it. Its very insulting and any real artist doesnt do that. Prince, Madonna, Michael etc didnt compare themselves to others or do that type of shit Beyonce does.
I never insisted Beyonce was the ONLY one to do this but its very disrespectful being people paint her to be humble when she really isnt... [Edited 5/30/12 14:31pm] | |
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Yeah i mean i bought that last dvd of beyonce's "4" which was the Roseland show, and seriously i had to watch a minute barely of a song and then skip to the next, i couldnt deal with the "generic" intros for the songs, the longwinded self obsessed speeches (and people say Alicia Keys is obsessed HA! at least i can get into her playing), I mean to me the likes of Elton John Bon Jovi etc are light years better at performing than Beyonce will ever be. I mean all the dream should have said is that beyonce is one of the best performers, because then that is at least "a debate" no one else is used to sell the point and people will agree and disagree, but to say SINCE michael jackson, and what the hell does that even mean? MJ hadnt performed a tour since what?? i forgot what year he actually TOURED last, i mean come on now DREAM "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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You exactly paid money for that?
I agree with this post. I had wrote a long response but decided to shorten it because Im basically repeating myself
Michaels last tour was over a decade ago!!! Like around 96/97
Dream smokes to much and is in the business of kissing Beyonces ass for a paycheck...
I dont know how any human could possibly compare Michael to ANYBODY out now let alone BEYONCE what a fuckin joke and how insulting to real performers like Janet and Prince as if NO other artist AFTER/During Michaels time werent any good.. Im so glad people on twitter bashed him because if I had a twitter he would have blocked me
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I echo what most say here. The Dream was never relevant. Beyonce is a good performer. Nowhere in MJ's atmosphere. Most of Beyonce's catalog is beyond boring. Love on Top is pretty decent. Don't laugh at my funk
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If this week has taught us anything, it’s that not even a 10 month hiatus could dim the Pop light that is Beyonce. Heralded for her sell out performances at New Jersey‘s ‘Revel Resorts‘, the last few days have seen the singer/songwriter praised (very publicly) by long time friend The Dream and US First Lady Michelle Obama, both of whom were in attendance at the shows. Now it’s Spin‘s turn to get into the action. Find out why they’ve called star the ‘greatest performer of her generation’ below…
In 2011, Beyoncé put out a No. 1 album, shot and released a live DVD, and nearly broke the Internet by announcing her pregnancy, so performing four Memorial Weekend concerts can’t even jokingly be considered a comeback. Only three months passed between the birth of her daughter with Jay-Z, Blue Ivy Carter, and Beyoncé‘s announcement that she’d be returning to the stage at the opening of Atlantic City’s lux Revel resort and casino — three years separated her debut solo album Dangerously in Love and its follow-up B’Day. But stakes are so high in diva-dom these days, nobody can afford to take a breather. B dropped last year’s 4 in the height of Lady Gaga domination; now the music biz is tethered to Adele‘s ruptured vocal cord,Britney‘s serving as a judge rather than facing one, Madonna is starting a world tour, Katy Perry is a divorcee, and Rihanna won’t stop patting her crotch on TV. But the difference between Beyoncé and all those other (legally, for now!) single ladies is black and white, which is exactly the color palate she chose to employ at her Revel shows. Beyoncéis the greatest performer of her generation and she knows it well. Her Revel concerts were more Liza With a Z than MTV — predicated on nothing but the tour de force of its creator. Saturday night’s two-hour show featured no gimmicks, no backing tracks, no hard-to-follow narratives, no whipped cream cannons. It was old school Vegas-style Entertainment with a capital E: singing, dancing, and charisma wrapped up in a few sparkly Ralph & Russo outfits. Beyoncé entered larger than life as a center-stage shadow ordering the 5,500-strong crowd (with special guests Michelle, Sasha, and Malia Obama in box seats) to “stand up on your feet” for 4‘s “End of Time” and quickly demonstrated her voice and hips are as limber as ever. Flanked by her 11-piece all-female band, a corps of 10 dancers, and a few cleverly deployed LED screens flashing blocks of black and white and dizzying geometric patterns, Beyoncédevoted the first part of her set to light-hearted uptempos: “Love on Top,” “Get Me Bodied,” “Baby Boy.” After her first costume-change break, she returned for a trio of numbers that paid homage to Vegas cabaret chic, breaking out fluffy feathered fans for a “Naughty Girl” that included a tribute to Donna Summer’s “Love to Love You Baby.” But the party didn’t last, and she soon slipped into a series of earnest ballads, singing “1 + 1″ perched on her knees atop a grand piano after admonishing the front rows not to scuffle over a perspiration-covered souvenir:
We all know how it feels to be hurt and lied to,” Beyoncé insisted, asking the ladies to help her sing “If I Were a Boy” seamlessly mashed up with a bit of the Goo Goo Dolls’ “Iris.” The women belted even louder on her cover of Lauryn Hill‘s “Ex-Factor,” though, which served as an unfortunate reminder of how genius can go awry. But right now Beyoncé is owning her brilliance like a boss. The Revel show highlighted how she’s become an accomplished multi-instrumentalist — her arsenal includes her powerhouse voice, her toned thighs, her whipping hair, her Vaudevillia The lovefest was swiftly supplanted by the jilted-lover part of the set. “n eyes, and of course, her wind machine. And now she’s become even more adept at playing our emotions, too, eliciting Beatlemania screeches by revealing a mere glimpse of Blue Ivy during a video montage. She’s unlocked the secret to balancing her super-human talent with über-humanizing rhetoric like another megastar who only requires one name: Oprah. As the night progressed, Beyoncé‘s strict black-and-white aesthetic began to slip, and in the set’s final frames, the LED screens flashed blinding walls of color heralding the arrival of “Countdown” like the conclusion of The Wizard of Oz. The swaggy march of “Run the World (Girls),” led into a funky version of “Why Don’t You Love Me,” then B hit the reset button again, returning for her Whitney Houston tribute “I Will Always Love You” dressed in red. She wrapped, of course, with her ultimate razzle-dazzle, “Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It),” and a series of earnest thank yous — to her band, her dancers, her crew (“It’s very hard working for me because I want things perfect for y’all”), and to Revel “for building a place for all of us on the East Coast to go have a good time.” That’s entertainment, folks. In AC, the lady is a tramp, and this showgirl’s a business, woman. Great read. Echoing sentiments by many of her ‘Hive’, articles like these can’t but reaffirm what most of us already know. | |
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But then again they are saying she's the greatest of HER generation....which is? 2000-2012??? So she's better than her peers Britney, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Usher, Justin Timberlake, Justin Bieber, Bruno Mars, Adele, Amy Winehouse, etc???? [Edited 5/30/12 16:54pm] MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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Well I'll say this, her PR team has been working overtime over the past year...the Billboard Millenium Award, the Essence Journalism Award, People's Most Beautiful Woman in the World magazine, having people compare her to MJ, and now this. Nothin but pure hype. Beyonce should get an award for having the biggest hype machine in the biz. SMH.
The dream has no talent or credibility. his opinion doesn't count. | |
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Pretty much sums it up. Id rather see her live than the rest of them. At least Ill be getting my moneys worth and will not be bored. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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she's a great performer.. But like I said before if you've been to one Beyonce concert you've pretty much been to them all. I can't think of many female singers besides Janet that puts on a show like she does. | |
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I could type the same expcept for one sentence. Who is the Dream? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Beyonce is undeniably great. Thats the Dream's opinion. | |
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"The Revel show highlighted how she’s become an accomplished multi-instrumentalist — her arsenal includes her powerhouse voice, her toned thighs, her whipping hair, her Vaudevillia"
What a insult to musicians who take their gift seriously. | |
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Speaking of First Lady Michelle Obama. How does the Org feel about her saying that if she could be anyone in the world it would be Beyonce?
Here's an article on this subject: http://www.huffingtonpost...54425.html | |
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I personally dont understand why some people want to attack Beyonce, fine you dont have to think her music or performances are good but she's worked hard and in reality doesnt have to prove herself anymore. In the US, an artist always has a "peak" and then the public and the media wants to kill that artist and make them look like shit, just like they did with Mike. I'm not comparing Mike to Beyonce, that's just a fallacy. She's very relevant in Europe and other parts of the world tho, just because one artist doesn't sell in the US doesnt mean she's not relevant. When I heard this comment from The Dream I honestly didnt care, because EVERYONE from Usher, Chris Brown, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears and so on have been compared to Mike and the reason to this is because he's the greatest entertainer that ever lived ; so obviously they want to have their name attached to greatness.
I've been to so many different concerts in my short life, hiphop&rap, r&b artists, soul, rock, neo-soul and I've seen Beyonce perform and she's def on a different level than her contemporaries, she's a great performer; it's def a show and I love that she actually sings and not lyp-synchs. Michael respected her and Prince also respects what she does. When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix | |
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I was so emberrased with the Prince & Beyonce performance in 2004,
I see absolutely no talent in her performance there.....
it was awful.
And I don't like r'n'b modern music, the kind on MTV and VH1 these days is just terrible, like Prince said himself music on the radio sounds like a "washing machine".
Nono....
Beyonce is not the new MJ. What a nightmare if she was. Prince 4Ever.  | |
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That doesnt justify that she is very mediocre in comparision to them.
Michael also respected T pain, Akon, Fergie and William.. so I guess their one of the best as well JUST because Michael liked them???
I think an opinion can be forumulated without having to validate it off of someone else and besides Prince said Beyonce had TALENT.. that doesnt necessarily mean he admires her music or feels shes all what she is hyped to be in the same with Michael and so forth because in all honesty they know shes overrated to.
I believe Prince has more respect for an artist like Janelle who exactly creates and is talented and doesnt rely on gimmicks...
And she isnt that relevant in Europe or other parts of the world. Shes just a big star in America. Her albums key word ALBUMSSSS first off dont sell alot let alone outside America... and maybe if she wasnt so up her ass and conceited nobody wouldnt attrack her.. People are tired of her overrated behind. Nobody hasnt attacked or has said anything that isnt true...
Oh and she does lip sings... All her so called live vocals arent live.
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