smoothcriminal12 said:

I still say it don't make a difference where you find "big dick" if you know it'll "fuck" you over anyway.

Timmy84 said:

nursev said:

Timmy84 said:

To be serious, that was generalizing an entire country lol

Timmy84 said:

Ottensen said:

Most of the Marley clan lives part time in Miami (or at least the family maintains an estate and recording studio there); those Marley men chil'ren are if nothing else, notorious for their Magik Don Wands. Seems like they have that Island Good-Good that just makes chicks go batty as hell once they get laid down by a Marley man. I don't know what kind of jou jou it is, but I'm tellin' you they have some kind of legendary kryptonite kinda power in those penises that reduces women into being d**kmatized after 2 pumps and a couple strokes.

Me no wan no Marley mon...noooo!

That whole family life is like a big commune. Mama Cedella and Rita practically raised all of Bob's outside kids right alongside his legit children and they all remain close to this day.

Hell...there's more Marleys than Winans,

nursev said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

So you're applying your experience to every single one of us?

I can see this conversation has hurt ur feelings and offended u so I'm sorry for that, but I can't change my experience and that is what I know to be true. I know ur young so I don't wanna argue with you. If ur offended I apologize, but that won't change my feelings.

I know that there are a lot that the world thinks about Black Americans as a whole but I don't hold it to be true because I know that you cannot judge a whole group of people based on what you think you know. But before I get angry, lash out, and say something to you that I'll regret, I'm going to hold my tongue because I genuinely like you and don't want to ruin anything. But, if anything, I will say that this is the most offended and upset someone has made me in a while.

So, on that note...

nursev said:

Timmy84 said:

To be serious, that was generalizing an entire country lol

No I never said that. I said that the majority of the men I met were like that.

Yeah but that's YOUR experience. Don't mean everyone down there does it like smooth pointed out.

mjscarousal said:

Ottensen said:

Most of the Marley clan lives part time in Miami (or at least the family maintains an estate and recording studio there); those Marley men chil'ren are if nothing else, notorious for their Magik Don Wands. Seems like they have that Island Good-Good that just makes chicks go batty as hell once they get laid down by a Marley man. I don't know what kind of jou jou it is, but I'm tellin' you they have some kind of legendary kryptonite kinda power in those penises that reduces women into being d**kmatized after 2 pumps and a couple strokes.

The only one that is not like that is Damien ironically his the most talented. I dont think he has any kids or a girl at the moment...pity cause his sexy and is an intellectual.

Damian lives with his girlfriend in Pinecrest...a posh Miami suburb. She's a beautiful Trini and they have a little boy, Elijah. He's also rumored to have an older son in London, (don't know if that's true), but seldom sees other chicks and is very discreet when he does.

He is by far the most talented IMO.

SoulAlive said:

CynicKill said:

Maybe it's easy to see what happened to Lauryn; She couldn't live up to her image. Her songs were really smart, but in her real life she couldn't even resist a married man or fight the temptation to have kids with him out of wedlock. Now she put that image out to the world and she was being praised for it.

I remember an interview where she admitted that she couldn't live up to the image she created.In the song "Doo Wop (That Thing)",she's giving all this good advice to young women,but it's advice that she herself wasn't following.

Oh yeah, I forgot the topic...

I think that all of it came too quickly and easily for her in the beginning and she couldn't handle it. It happens to a lot of people who are not really grounded with a good sense of self. She seemed to have a good idea of who she wanted to be but not who she really was and got lost trying to get from A to B. That could be why she sought refuge in Mr. Marley and saw only what she wanted to see instead of seeing reality.

It's amazing how many women still think they can hold on to a man by having kids.

It seems pretty common that very artistic types don't deal well with the practical side of life.

babynoz said:

mjscarousal said:

The only one that is not like that is Damien ironically his the most talented. I dont think he has any kids or a girl at the moment...pity cause his sexy and is an intellectual.

Damian lives with his girlfriend in Pinecrest...a posh Miami suburb. She's a beautiful Trini and they have a little boy, Elijah. He's also rumored to have an older son in London, (don't know if that's true), but seldom sees other chicks and is very discreet when he does.

He is by far the most talented IMO.

I didn't know about that, I nearly went to see him in Trinidad back in 2010.

Serious said:

babynoz said:

Damian lives with his girlfriend in Pinecrest...a posh Miami suburb. She's a beautiful Trini and they have a little boy, Elijah. He's also rumored to have an older son in London, (don't know if that's true), but seldom sees other chicks and is very discreet when he does.

He is by far the most talented IMO.

I didn't know about that, I nearly went to see him in Trinidad back in 2010.

Yup, Cristal. Very exotic with Indian features. She was at the show with Damian's mom when I saw him and Nas last year.

Those Marleys sure travel with a huge entourage.

babynoz said:

Serious said:

I didn't know about that, I nearly went to see him in Trinidad back in 2010.

Yup, Cristal. Very exotic with Indian features. She was at the show with Damian's mom when I saw him and Nas last year.

Those Marleys sure travel with a huge entourage.

I can imagine .

There are a lot of Indians in Trinidad, nearly half the population, so I am not surprised about that.

That must have been the same tour because he played in Trinidad with Nas too and with Jah Cure and that show was in December 2010. My boyfriend was a bit pissed that I stayed at home instead of going with him to the concert .

Serious said:

babynoz said:

Yup, Cristal. Very exotic with Indian features. She was at the show with Damian's mom when I saw him and Nas last year.

Those Marleys sure travel with a huge entourage.

I can imagine .

There are a lot of Indians in Trinidad, nearly half the population, so I am not surprised about that.

That must have been the same tour because he played in Trinidad with Nas too and with Jah Cure and that show was in December 2010. My boyfriend was a bit pissed that I stayed at home instead of going with him to the concert .

He should have dragged you to the show...you would have been glad he did...

babynoz said:

Serious said:

I can imagine .

There are a lot of Indians in Trinidad, nearly half the population, so I am not surprised about that.

That must have been the same tour because he played in Trinidad with Nas too and with Jah Cure and that show was in December 2010. My boyfriend was a bit pissed that I stayed at home instead of going with him to the concert .

He should have dragged you to the show...you would have been glad he did...

He wanted to drag me there . He loved it. But it was a drive for 3 hours to get there and it took place in a huge stadium and a whole lot of bands were playing so it lasted for probably at least 10 hours. And I had seen Jah Cure before live and was not that impressed. So I finally decided to skip it. And I was happy I did not go in the end because on the way home the road was blocked by some fallen down tree and my boyfriend was stuck in his car on the road until lunchtime next day.

I guess I am being a bit off-topic right now .

Serious said:

babynoz said:

He should have dragged you to the show...you would have been glad he did...

He wanted to drag me there . He loved it. But it was a drive for 3 hours to get there and it took place in a huge stadium and a whole lot of bands were playing so it lasted for probably at least 10 hours. And I had seen Jah Cure before live and was not that impressed. So I finally decided to skip it. And I was happy I did not go in the end because on the way home the road was blocked by some fallen down tree and my boyfriend was stuck in his car on the road until lunchtime next day.

I guess I am being a bit off-topic right now .

Good lord...

Luckily we get to see Marleys frequently since they mostly live here in South Florida. Damian is probably the only one I would go out of my way to see though.

babynoz said:

Serious said:

He wanted to drag me there . He loved it. But it was a drive for 3 hours to get there and it took place in a huge stadium and a whole lot of bands were playing so it lasted for probably at least 10 hours. And I had seen Jah Cure before live and was not that impressed. So I finally decided to skip it. And I was happy I did not go in the end because on the way home the road was blocked by some fallen down tree and my boyfriend was stuck in his car on the road until lunchtime next day.

I guess I am being a bit off-topic right now .

Good lord...

Luckily we get to see Marleys frequently since they mostly live here in South Florida. Damian is probably the only one I would go out of my way to see though.

Yeah I am pretty happy too that a lot of cool artists play in my hometown. Even though I have no idea if any Marley ever played here or not . I also travelled to a lot to other countries for concerts back in the day, but only for my favourite artists.

That concert in Port Of Spain was a must see for everybody, not many famous artists are playing there even though in the same month a lot was happening in that country with Beyoncé and Maroon5 playing there too .

nursev said:

brooksie said:

*I* hear ya! It's no coinky dink that the term "babymama/babymother" and "babydaddy/babyfather" is an import from the Caribbean. So too were the things most boldly sexual in hip hop. They were imports from da dancehall (and even then we are VERY conservative compared to the original). IOW, "slackness" is very real....they ain't just talkin' on records!

Tho I'm Black American, Caribbean culture interests me. What you're saying is very much apart of the cultural landscape on many of the islands, esp Jamaica.

If anybody doubts what nursev is saying, go to YT and look up "passa passa" That's how tons of Jamaicans of all classes get down every weekend!

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Thank u for this and every word is true. I remember going to reggae parties back in the 90's and hearing the "babymama" term in dancehall songs and after that everybody was saying it-so u are correct. I also witnessed a lot of things occur at those parties that folks wouldn't believe being overtly sexual is apart of the culture. I know-I lived it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Jamaican men are bad. I'm saying that mentality of wanting to fuck every thing moving is just what they do Folks can say I'm wrong, but I'm not

I lived in Miami and went to college with Jamaicans, later I lived and worked amongst them, and I'm sorry I gotta back Nurse up on this one. I also have traveled or done work trips to nearly every island in the Carribean barring Cuba, and the openess toward sexuality in the English language islands is off the charts , esp. in Jamaica. Hell, I was even in little bitty ass Anguilla once and at 2 o'clock in the afternoon the radio was playing music about oral sex and eating people out! My American puritanical ass was clutching my pearls much to the bemusement of the islanders working omfg:production; folks asked me straight up "what's wrong, you don't like to go downtown!?"

Mind you this was a professional environment and these were supposed to be my work colleagues for the trip.Next they were saying they wanted to fix me up with people and wanted to know how big did I need the penis to be since I was slender. Hot messes of sex, I tell you!

Beyond that, I've watched enough girlfirneds from afar go through trials and tribulations with their Jamaican men. Fidelity and/or honesty about their marital statuses and true number of offspring hasn't really been their collective strong suit

Serious said:

babynoz said:

Good lord...

Luckily we get to see Marleys frequently since they mostly live here in South Florida. Damian is probably the only one I would go out of my way to see though.

Yeah I am pretty happy too that a lot of cool artists play in my hometown. Even though I have no idea if any Marley ever played here or not . I also travelled to a lot to other countries for concerts back in the day, but only for my favourite artists.

That concert in Port Of Spain was a must see for everybody, not many famous artists are playing there even though in the same month a lot was happening in that country with Beyoncé and Maroon5 playing there to .

Speaking of concerts, I wonder if Rohan is the only Marley that isn't in the music biz? There's so many of them it's hard to keep up,

babynoz said:

Ottensen said:

Most of the Marley clan lives part time in Miami (or at least the family maintains an estate and recording studio there); those Marley men chil'ren are if nothing else, notorious for their Magik Don Wands. Seems like they have that Island Good-Good that just makes chicks go batty as hell once they get laid down by a Marley man. I don't know what kind of jou jou it is, but I'm tellin' you they have some kind of legendary kryptonite kinda power in those penises that reduces women into being d**kmatized after 2 pumps and a couple strokes.

Me no wan no Marley mon...noooo!

That whole family life is like a big commune. Mama Cedella and Rita practically raised all of Bob's outside kids right alongside his legit children and they all remain close to this day.

Hell...there's more Marleys than Winans,

Girl, that's what I'm saying! It's like once you check into that family....you never check out

I hope Rohan's new girl knows that once you're in, you're in

Ottensen said:

nursev said:

brooksie said: Thank u for this and every word is true. I remember going to reggae parties back in the 90's and hearing the "babymama" term in dancehall songs and after that everybody was saying it-so u are correct. I also witnessed a lot of things occur at those parties that folks wouldn't believe being overtly sexual is apart of the culture. I know-I lived it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Jamaican men are bad. I'm saying that mentality of wanting to fuck every thing moving is just what they do Folks can say I'm wrong, but I'm not

I lived in Miami and went to college with Jamaicans, later I lived and worked amongst them, and I'm sorry I gotta back Nurse up on this one. I also have traveled or done work trips to nearly every island in the Carribean barring Cuba, and the openess toward sexuality in the English language islands is off the charts , esp. in Jamaica. Hell, I was even in little bitty ass Anguilla once and at 2 o'clock in the afternoon the radio was playing music about oral sex and eating people out! My American puritanical ass was clutching my pearls much to the bemusement of the islanders working omfg:production; folks asked me straight up "what's wrong, you don't like to go downtown!?"

Mind you this was a professional environment and these were supposed to be my work colleagues for the trip.Next they were saying they wanted to fix me up with people and wanted to know how big did I need the penis to be since I was slender. Hot messes of sex, I tell you!

Beyond that, I've watched enough girlfirneds from afar go through trials and tribulations with their Jamaican men. Fidelity and/or honesty about their marital statuses and true number of offspring hasn't really been their collective strong suit

I've had more Jamaican friends than I can count over the years and I can say that I haven't met that many Rohan Marley types. One of my best pals that's I've worked with for over twenty years is the Jamaican Ward Cleaver, Even before he got married he was quite tame.

Maybe the attitude in Rasta culture is more relaxed about dudes having multiple partners? Or maybe Caribbean culture in general because I hear the same stories about Trinis, Bahamians, etc, etc.

Ottensen said:

babynoz said:

Me no wan no Marley mon...noooo!

That whole family life is like a big commune. Mama Cedella and Rita practically raised all of Bob's outside kids right alongside his legit children and they all remain close to this day.

Hell...there's more Marleys than Winans,

Girl, that's what I'm saying! It's like once you check into that family....you never check out

I hope Rohan's new girl knows that once you're in, you're in

That's why it was weird when Rohan didn't claim Lauryn's last kid because if there was any chance he was a true Marley then he surely would have accepted it.

babynoz said:

Ottensen said:

I lived in Miami and went to college with Jamaicans, later I lived and worked amongst them, and I'm sorry I gotta back Nurse up on this one. I also have traveled or done work trips to nearly every island in the Carribean barring Cuba, and the openess toward sexuality in the English language islands is off the charts , esp. in Jamaica. Hell, I was even in little bitty ass Anguilla once and at 2 o'clock in the afternoon the radio was playing music about oral sex and eating people out! My American puritanical ass was clutching my pearls much to the bemusement of the islanders working omfg:production; folks asked me straight up "what's wrong, you don't like to go downtown!?"

Mind you this was a professional environment and these were supposed to be my work colleagues for the trip.Next they were saying they wanted to fix me up with people and wanted to know how big did I need the penis to be since I was slender. Hot messes of sex, I tell you!

Beyond that, I've watched enough girlfirneds from afar go through trials and tribulations with their Jamaican men. Fidelity and/or honesty about their marital statuses and true number of offspring hasn't really been their collective strong suit

I've had more Jamaican friends than I can count over the years and I can say that I haven't met that many Rohan Marley types. One of my best pals that's I've worked with for over twenty years is the Jamaican Ward Cleaver, Even before he got married he was quite tame.

Maybe the attitude in Rasta culture is more relaxed about dudes having multiple partners? Or maybe Caribbean culture in general because I hear the same stories about Trinis, Bahamians, etc, etc.

When I was in Trinidad I was approached by men who were in relationships all the time. For example there was that guy who was 22 or something who asked me if that man overthere was his boyfriend and when I said yes told me his name and and age and how beautiful I am, but that he can only see me 2 times a week because of the wife and the kids from another relationship . Then the song "Everytime you need a lover call on me" started to play from a car near by and he dedicated it to me and did not get it at all that I just walked away shaking my head. And his friend tried too at the same time . So Ottensen's experience probably is pretty typical.

And then the dancing there: wining is pretty much sex with clothes on and everybody dances with everybody (the ladies approach the men a lot too) and I seem to be the only one who doesn't want to feel a stranger's penis rubbing on me .....

smoothcriminal12 said:

I am not saying everybody is like that, but it is a pretty normal behaviour in the culture there . But I am in a relationship with a Trini and he knows he'd be in BIG trouble if I ever find out he cheats on me. So hopefully there are exceptions . Even though his family history is not a good sign considering how many brothers and sisters he has from different relationships of his parents .

I honestly don't see what's so "different" about Caribbean folks... and don't tell me to "experience" it.

Timmy84 said:

I honestly don't see what's so "different" about Caribbean folks... and don't tell me to "experience" it.

It's "our culture".

Timmy84 said:

I honestly don't see what's so "different" about Caribbean folks... and don't tell me to "experience" it.

Well, that's what I was saying...maybe I don't get out enough...

Perhaps it's more open and demonstrative but I'm not sure they actually screw around more than other folks.

There's a great deal of Caribbean influence where I live, to the point where it's almost the norm, so I guess I don't give it a second thought most of the time.

You should experience it though...it's wonderful.

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

I honestly don't see what's so "different" about Caribbean folks... and don't tell me to "experience" it.

Well, that's what I was saying...maybe I don't get out enough...

Perhaps it's more open and demonstrative but I'm not sure they actually screw around more than other folks.

There's a great deal of Caribbean influence where I live, to the point where it's almost the norm, so I guess I don't give it a second thought most of the time.

You should experience it though...it's wonderful.

I think that is true. On the other hand no woman will be topless on a beach like here in Europe and my boyfriend sees that as not okay. And anal sex is illegal in Trinidad as far as I know and considered a sin by most Rastas.

And the Caribbean culture is wonderful in many ways, I agree with that

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