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Reply #90 posted 04/30/12 11:42am

Dewrede

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lazycrockett said:

Bjork.

yes !

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Reply #91 posted 04/30/12 11:43am

Dewrede

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CrabalockerFishwife said:

Dewrede said:

STFU with that stupid fucking nonsense mad

He didn't steal shit

+1

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Reply #92 posted 04/30/12 11:46am

Terrib3Towel

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smoothcriminal12 said:

CrabalockerFishwife said:

+1

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falloff

Don't know why that made me laugh so hard!

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Reply #93 posted 04/30/12 1:03pm

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CrabalockerFishwife said:

If we're speaking strictly of him covering specific songs originally by black artists; tons of artists cover another artist's song and make it a huge hit.. it may suck for the original artist, but Elvis was not the only person to do it; and it wasn't only black artists whose songs he sung.

But some people complain about white people performing genres of music that were created by black artists, and I find that quite offensive..

It comes from a fear that they will eventually become the best selling and most celebrated of the genre and that we, the original buyers, will be left in the dust.

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Reply #94 posted 04/30/12 1:35pm

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nursev said:

CrabalockerFishwife said:

Madonna

Michael Jackson

The Beatles

Prince

Marvin Gaye

Stevie Wonder

..........

stirthepot

U Know what..... lol Imma let it slide lol

Chile... lol

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Reply #95 posted 04/30/12 2:09pm

purplethunder3
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musicjunky318 said:

nursev said:

U Know what..... lol Imma let it slide lol

Chile... lol

That's like asking for a war to start! lol uzi machinegun bomb blowup

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #96 posted 04/30/12 2:15pm

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I don't hate her, but I never understand why everyone raves about how genuine and authentic Adele is. She strikes me as very manufactured. I think people are confusing authenticity with her being common as muck.

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Reply #97 posted 04/30/12 5:26pm

aardvark15

Every single white rock band that has ever lived.I could care less what style of rock it is boxed

Oh and Elvis too razz

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Reply #98 posted 05/01/12 12:00pm

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CrabalockerFishwife said:

Paisley4u said:

Bob Dylan

Just curious.. is it his singing that you don't like, or you just don't like his music at all? Most people it seems can't stand him because of his voice..

Well, I guess it´s his voice and performance because I like the covers I heard from his songs.

And I can´t recall the title but whenever I hear an older song of him, I´m still surprised they announce it it a Dylan song. And 2 be honest, compare his voice with Stevie´s and..well, I prefer the soul lol But no disrespect, I know Dylan is a great songwriter and he deserves more credit than Elvis (OVERrated!!!!!!!!!!)

[Edited 5/1/12 12:00pm]

Love4oneanother
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Reply #99 posted 05/01/12 12:32pm

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Paisley4u said:

CrabalockerFishwife said:

Just curious.. is it his singing that you don't like, or you just don't like his music at all? Most people it seems can't stand him because of his voice..

Well, I guess it´s his voice and performance because I like the covers I heard from his songs.

And I can´t recall the title but whenever I hear an older song of him, I´m still surprised they announce it it a Dylan song. And 2 be honest, compare his voice with Stevie´s and..well, I prefer the soul lol But no disrespect, I know Dylan is a great songwriter and he deserves more credit than Elvis (OVERrated!!!!!!!!!!)

[Edited 5/1/12 12:00pm]

But Elvis is not a songwriter. They can not be compared, they are totally different.
Elvis - a handsome man with a good voice.
This is his niche in music.
It is a huge icon in the first place.

Although in agreement, he is extremely overrated.

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Reply #100 posted 05/01/12 12:37pm

Azz

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I don't hate her, but I never understand why everyone raves about how genuine and authentic Adele is. She strikes me as very manufactured. I think people are confusing authenticity with her being common as muck.

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Reply #101 posted 05/01/12 12:40pm

tasiab

I cant stand no Beyonce

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Reply #102 posted 05/01/12 12:40pm

tasiab

oh and Nicki Minaj however you spell her name

[Edited 5/1/12 12:42pm]

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Reply #103 posted 05/01/12 1:12pm

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LiLi1992 said:

But Elvis is not a songwriter. They can not be compared, they are totally different.

Elvis - a handsome man with a good voice.
This is his niche in music.
It is a huge icon in the first place.

Although in agreement, he is extremely overrated.

btw, please don't take my defending Elvis about the race thing as a sign that I'm a huge fan... I'm not. I think he has about a dozen classic songs, and maybe about 50 good ones... but he did a lot of terrible music, especially in the 1960s when he did soundtrack after soundtrack.. he definitely isn't one of the best artists ever.

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Reply #104 posted 05/01/12 3:29pm

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I don't hate any artist. How can you hate someone you don't really know or who has done nothing to you?smile

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Reply #105 posted 05/02/12 9:46am

lauralevesque

Paisley4u said:

CrabalockerFishwife said:

Just curious.. is it his singing that you don't like, or you just don't like his music at all? Most people it seems can't stand him because of his voice..

Well, I guess it´s his voice and performance because I like the covers I heard from his songs.

And I can´t recall the title but whenever I hear an older song of him, I´m still surprised they announce it it a Dylan song. And 2 be honest, compare his voice with Stevie´s and..well, I prefer the soul lol But no disrespect, I know Dylan is a great songwriter and he deserves more credit than Elvis (OVERrated!!!!!!!!!!)

[Edited 5/1/12 12:00pm]

Dylan does NOT deserve more credit than Elvis. Dylan is a fraud. The original "Dylan" was Woody Guthrie. Bob Dylan stole Woody Guthries style- the only reason it worked is that Dylan had the image and Woody Guthrie didn't. Bob Dylan was handsome and Woody Guthrie was ugly but Guthrie was the origanl and Dylan is the rip off. I used to be a Dylan fan until I realized that he never did any of the things he sings about; he never worked on Maggie's farm, he didn't have the hard knock life he sings about; Woody Guthrie did. Dylan is a thief, he even says in his book that the way he wrote his songs was to get the newspaper and read about things that happened to OTHER people and he would write a song about it, which I suppose is a craft in itsself but he's not the real deal.

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Reply #106 posted 05/02/12 9:55am

Empress

Diana Ross

Kanye (although I don't think everybody else loves him).

Britney

Lady Gaga

Guns N Roses

Rihanna

Rick James

Nirvana

Bryan Adams

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Reply #107 posted 05/02/12 9:57am

Empress

lauralevesque said:

Paisley4u said:

Well, I guess it´s his voice and performance because I like the covers I heard from his songs.

And I can´t recall the title but whenever I hear an older song of him, I´m still surprised they announce it it a Dylan song. And 2 be honest, compare his voice with Stevie´s and..well, I prefer the soul lol But no disrespect, I know Dylan is a great songwriter and he deserves more credit than Elvis (OVERrated!!!!!!!!!!)

[Edited 5/1/12 12:00pm]

Dylan does NOT deserve more credit than Elvis. Dylan is a fraud. The original "Dylan" was Woody Guthrie. Bob Dylan stole Woody Guthries style- the only reason it worked is that Dylan had the image and Woody Guthrie didn't. Bob Dylan was handsome and Woody Guthrie was ugly but Guthrie was the origanl and Dylan is the rip off. I used to be a Dylan fan until I realized that he never did any of the things he sings about; he never worked on Maggie's farm, he didn't have the hard knock life he sings about; Woody Guthrie did. Dylan is a thief, he even says in his book that the way he wrote his songs was to get the newspaper and read about things that happened to OTHER people and he would write a song about it, which I suppose is a craft in itsself but he's not the real deal.

rolleyes disbelief

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Reply #108 posted 05/02/12 10:00am

CrabalockerFis
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lauralevesque said:

lol

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Reply #109 posted 05/02/12 11:03am

Azz

lauralevesque said:

Paisley4u said:

Well, I guess it´s his voice and performance because I like the covers I heard from his songs.

And I can´t recall the title but whenever I hear an older song of him, I´m still surprised they announce it it a Dylan song. And 2 be honest, compare his voice with Stevie´s and..well, I prefer the soul lol But no disrespect, I know Dylan is a great songwriter and he deserves more credit than Elvis (OVERrated!!!!!!!!!!)

[Edited 5/1/12 12:00pm]

Dylan does NOT deserve more credit than Elvis. Dylan is a fraud. The original "Dylan" was Woody Guthrie. Bob Dylan stole Woody Guthries style- the only reason it worked is that Dylan had the image and Woody Guthrie didn't. Bob Dylan was handsome and Woody Guthrie was ugly but Guthrie was the origanl and Dylan is the rip off. I used to be a Dylan fan until I realized that he never did any of the things he sings about; he never worked on Maggie's farm, he didn't have the hard knock life he sings about; Woody Guthrie did. Dylan is a thief, he even says in his book that the way he wrote his songs was to get the newspaper and read about things that happened to OTHER people and he would write a song about it, which I suppose is a craft in itsself but he's not the real deal.

nuts

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Reply #110 posted 05/02/12 11:10am

lauralevesque

I'm actually shocked that everyone is so befuddled by my Dylan comments. Isn't it obvious? After I started listening to Woody Guthrie and saw a documentary on his life, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I thought it was obvious to everyone. I even heard Joni Mitchell say pretty much the same thing about Dylan a few years ago and I thought, "Well, SHE gets it"

I'm just surprised so many people don't see it. confused

Hell, even if you read Dylan's OWN book , you see right away, how much he stole from others, especially Woody Guthrie. neutral

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Reply #111 posted 05/02/12 11:15am

CrabalockerFis
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lauralevesque said:

I'm actually shocked that everyone is so befuddled by my Dylan comments. Isn't it obvious? After I started listening to Woody Guthrie and saw a documentary on his life, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I thought it was obvious to everyone. I even heard Joni Mitchell say pretty much the same thing about Dylan a few years ago and I thought, "Well, SHE gets it"

I'm just surprised so many people don't see it. confused

Hell, even if you read Dylan's OWN book , you see right away, how much he stole from others, especially Woody Guthrie. neutral

If I recall, he did admit to stealing stuff from other people's songs. Still, his music is great regardless of how much he came up with.. tons of artists have stolen lyrics, melodies, etc from others.. and your sentence about Dylan becoming popular because he was 'handsome' is really funny.. I've never heard anyone say that before.

As for this sentence:

I used to be a Dylan fan until I realized that he never did any of the things he sings about; he never worked on Maggie's farm, he didn't have the hard knock life he sings about

..why would I care if he lived what he sang? Do you think Prince [or whoever else] lives everything they sing about?

My favorite artist is John Lennon.. he stole from other people on multiple occasions and was called a hypocrite because of "Imagine".. but it doesn't stop me from loving the music he made - why would it?

[Edited 5/2/12 11:16am]

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Reply #112 posted 05/02/12 11:29am

lauralevesque

CrabalockerFishwife said:

lauralevesque said:

I'm actually shocked that everyone is so befuddled by my Dylan comments. Isn't it obvious? After I started listening to Woody Guthrie and saw a documentary on his life, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I thought it was obvious to everyone. I even heard Joni Mitchell say pretty much the same thing about Dylan a few years ago and I thought, "Well, SHE gets it"

I'm just surprised so many people don't see it. confused

Hell, even if you read Dylan's OWN book , you see right away, how much he stole from others, especially Woody Guthrie. neutral

If I recall, he did admit to stealing stuff from other people's songs. Still, his music is great regardless of how much he came up with.. tons of artists have stolen lyrics, melodies, etc from others.. and your sentence about Dylan becoming popular because he was 'handsome' is really funny.. I've never heard anyone say that before.

As for this sentence:

I used to be a Dylan fan until I realized that he never did any of the things he sings about; he never worked on Maggie's farm, he didn't have the hard knock life he sings about

..why would I care if he lived what he sang? Do you think Prince [or whoever else] lives everything they sing about?

My favorite artist is John Lennon.. he stole from other people on multiple occasions and was called a hypocrite because of "Imagine".. but it doesn't stop me from loving the music he made - why would it?

[Edited 5/2/12 11:16am]

Well, because if I'm relating to someone's lyrics, it's because I want to at least think that they actually "LIVED" them or at least came up with the idea on their own, not stole them from someone else. And yes, Dylan did what Woody Guthrie did but I think, did get more attention because he had the whole package, he was handsome and looked good singing his stolen songs whereas Woody Guthrie was ugly but at least his songs were written because of things that had happened to him, they were things he "FELT" and things he had actually been through. Have you read "Bound for Glory?" poor guy- he had a helluva life. Bob Dylan's a faker. And I said that writing songs that he stole from other peoples life experiences is a craft in itself so I will give him that. But he is NOT the real deal. It's like when that dumbass singer, Plum, (I think her name was) wrote some song about cutting because she thought it was really "deep" and that the young cutters would relate and then the teenagers were calling her on it it, like, "You're not a cutter, why are you writing a song about it if you don't cut?" Ok- I'm probably rambling, but you see what I'm saying.. anyway, fuck Bob Dylan. LOVE Woody Guthrie, may he R.I.P.

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Reply #113 posted 05/02/12 12:15pm

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lauralevesque said:

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Yes, I understand... being that I'm not a Dylan expert, I don't know if any of that's true or not, but for me it doesn't interfere with my enjoyment of the music.

[Edited 5/2/12 12:16pm]

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Reply #114 posted 05/02/12 12:26pm

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Brittney Spears

Lady Gaga (but she does have a nice voice)

Chrissette Michele

LMFAO

Gym Class Heroes

French Montana

Chris Brown

Peaches N Herb

Lou Rawls

Kenny Loggins

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
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Reply #115 posted 05/02/12 12:46pm

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Bjork.

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Reply #116 posted 05/02/12 1:12pm

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I've never been big on Diana Ross & the Surpremes. I find them dull. Never digged Diana's solo work either.

Aretha's best work was in the 60s, everything is meh. With the exception of Amazing Grace.

As someone mention ealier, all of the white rock bands. Rock music is just a bunch of screaming to me. Pink Floyd, Zeplin, Queen, Nirvana, etc are all barf.

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Reply #117 posted 05/02/12 2:05pm

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Terrib3Towel said:

I've never been big on Diana Ross & the Surpremes. I find them dull. Never digged Diana's solo work either.

Aretha's best work was in the 60s, everything is meh. With the exception of Amazing Grace.

As someone mention ealier, all of the white rock bands. Rock music is just a bunch of screaming to me. Pink Floyd, Zeplin, Queen, Nirvana, etc are all barf.

nod There are a few songs I like but overall Diana and her Supremes are a lil bored I don't think she is that great of a singer. Too whispery or something.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
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Reply #118 posted 05/02/12 2:08pm

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HotGritz said:

Terrib3Towel said:

I've never been big on Diana Ross & the Surpremes. I find them dull. Never digged Diana's solo work either.

Aretha's best work was in the 60s, everything is meh. With the exception of Amazing Grace.

As someone mention ealier, all of the white rock bands. Rock music is just a bunch of screaming to me. Pink Floyd, Zeplin, Queen, Nirvana, etc are all barf.

nod There are a few songs I like but overall Diana and her Supremes are a lil bored I don't think she is that great of a singer. Too whispery or something.

Oh hell no. Diana can't sing AT ALL. lol

There goes that theory that back in the day you actually had to SING good to be successful. Berry wanted her little weak ass voice so the white folks would like it. Gotta make that money honey. lol

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Reply #119 posted 05/02/12 2:16pm

lauralevesque

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lauralevesque said:

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Yes, I understand... being that I'm not a Dylan expert, I don't know if any of that's true or not, but for me it doesn't interfere with my enjoyment of the music.

[Edited 5/2/12 12:16pm]

Right. I got you. I can still hear certain Dylan songs and enjoy them smile and sing along in the car or whatever, I don't hate him, lol It's all good- just had to get on my soap box. I'm off now. smile

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