His ass killed Tupac.

Ninja please.

missfee said:

Prospect said:

To think that Suge would put a hit out on Pac when he's sitting .right next to him in car on busy night in Vegas is even more crazier than people thinkin Pac's still alive.

The real story is already out there tho.

After the confrontation at the Soul Train Awards and the released of "Hit Em up", Puffy paid some Southside Crips to steal a DeathRow medallion so that he could flash it in the next Bad Boy video. Associates of DeathRow get jacked at a mall by this Southside Crips. One of these associates accompanied Suge and Pac in Vegas and spotted one of the Crips (Orlando Anderson) that robbed him at the MGM lobby, and he pointed him out to Pac. Pac and DR crew runs over to give him a royal ass beating. Orlando gets with his people to retaliate. They see the DR trail in traffic and 2pac standing up in the sunroof on his car talkin to some women, and pull up next to him and shoot him. Days later, a war between the Crips and Bloods ignites in Los Angeles cause Suge knows who the shooters were. Fast-foward to the following year, Orlando Anderson and his uncle are seen at the same party that Biggie was at the night he was killed by by someone hired by Suge Knight.

An ex-LAPD detetive recently put out a book about the murders of Pac and Biggie, and even got a confession from Orlando Anderson's own uncle. The police know who killed both Pac and Biggie but they won't make any arrests or solve it for whatever reasons.

Umm not really since Suge pretty much more than likely had an idea that Tupac would be trying to leave his make believe gang camp pretty soon, which meant that would be the end of the cash flow or perhaps Tupac knew stuff about Suge that he was determined wasn't going to get out. Just because Suge was in the car doesn't mean that he still didn't have anything to do with Tupac's murder. Murder for hires situations don't always go as planned. There's lot of cases where folks have put out hits on whoever and purposely put themselves in the situations so that they could throw pollice off and already be ruled out as being a suspect.

The story about Puffy hiring a crip to do whatever hasn't been confirmed, BUT if actually true then why no official arrests still to this very day? There's still many questions and apparently if there have been confessions made, then there must have been something else that happened that no one else knows as far as the reason why the killer(s) have not been arrested or the case hasn't been officially solved on both ends.

I'm still baffled at this whole Crip/Blood thing going on when Suge wasn't a real Blood.

[Edited 4/21/12 11:56am]

Unless you're hiring some army-trained or CIA-level sharpshooters, then yeah, you can hire somebody to merk a person sitting next to you. But not if its a damn drive-by shooting and their shooting multiple shots at the car ya'll are in. Most gangbangers aren't marksmen and bullets can richocet. Plus if Suge got mad about Pac leaving DeathRow, he wouldnt have to kill him - cause Pac wouldve been left asshole naked and broke him cause everything Pac had (even his momma's crib) was in Suge's name.

And nobody really knows for sure what Pac's future plans were. Yes, he was getting ready to start his record label, but at same time, he was talkin about starting DeathRow East (an East Coast wing of DeathRow for east coast rappers), which is what he was admantly promoting at the VMAs just days before he was shot. And he said that he planned on doing A&R at DeathRow in his interview with Sway. I mightve been lookin for some financial independence, but I don't he wouldve left DeathRow anytime. Plus, with DeathRow, he had all of the backup he needed against Bad Boy, Jimmy Henchmen etc. etc.

Everybody knows that Suge wasn't a real Blood, but he's was affiliated with the Bloods, just like 2pac became affiliated when came to DeathRow and starting sayin "M.O.B." (regardless of whatever his own acroymn for it was). The story about Puffy hiring Southside Crip to steal the a DR has been confirmed by the Outlawz as well as other DeathRow associates. And its a known fact that both Puffy and Jimmy Henchmen hired Crips for security whenever they were in Los Angeles (hence, Orlando Anderson being present at the last event Biggie was at that night)

Why there hasnt been any arrests in the Biggie's murder when there was valueable evidence is the reason why his mother filed a lawsuit against the LAPD. And since the lawsuit was dismissed, their definately not going to solve it cause the don't have to worry about losing money. The reason why there haven't been arrests in the Pac murder is cause the LVPD just simply ain't interested in solving a crime that involved from some "black gangsters" from Los Angeles which isn't their jurisdiction. And LAPD doesnt about looking into the case because the murder happened in Vegas; to put it simply LAPD dont give a shit about either one of those cases.

[Edited 4/21/12 17:08pm]

Timmy84 said:

Pac and Suge, according to one of Pac's bodyguards at the time before Pac's death, witnessed an incident in which Pac and Suge were arguing over something. And Suge almost charged at Pac but had to be held back. Pac yelled to Suge during this that he was leaving Death Row.

Yeah thats what Frank Alexander said but even he made it clear that Suge didn't have anything to do with Pac's murder. Other than that, Pac and Suge agruing alot.

Prospect said:

missfee said:

Umm not really since Suge pretty much more than likely had an idea that Tupac would be trying to leave his make believe gang camp pretty soon, which meant that would be the end of the cash flow or perhaps Tupac knew stuff about Suge that he was determined wasn't going to get out. Just because Suge was in the car doesn't mean that he still didn't have anything to do with Tupac's murder. Murder for hires situations don't always go as planned. There's lot of cases where folks have put out hits on whoever and purposely put themselves in the situations so that they could throw pollice off and already be ruled out as being a suspect.

The story about Puffy hiring a crip to do whatever hasn't been confirmed, BUT if actually true then why no official arrests still to this very day? There's still many questions and apparently if there have been confessions made, then there must have been something else that happened that no one else knows as far as the reason why the killer(s) have not been arrested or the case hasn't been officially solved on both ends.

I'm still baffled at this whole Crip/Blood thing going on when Suge wasn't a real Blood.

[Edited 4/21/12 11:56am]

Unless you're hiring some army-trained or CIA-level sharpshooters, then yeah, you can hire somebody to merk a person sitting next to you. But not if its a damn drive-by shooting and their shooting multiple shots at the car ya'll are in. Most gangbangers aren't marksmen and bullets can richocet. Plus if Suge got mad about Pac leaving DeathRow, he wouldnt have to kill him - cause Pac wouldve been left asshole naked and broke him cause everything Pac had (even his momma's crib) was in Suge's name.

And nobody really knows for sure what Pac's future plans were. Yes, he was getting ready to start his record label, but at same time, he was talkin about starting DeathRow East (an East Coast wing of DeathRow for east coast rappers), which is what he was admantly promoting at the VMAs just days before he was shot. And he said that he planned on doing A&R at DeathRow in his interview with Sway. I mightve been lookin for some financial independence, but I don't he wouldve left DeathRow anytime. Plus, with DeathRow, he had all of the backup he needed against Bad Boy, Jimmy Henchmen etc. etc.

Everybody knows that Suge wasn't a real Blood, but he's was affiliated with the Bloods, just like 2pac became affiliated when came to DeathRow and starting sayin "M.O.B." (regardless of whatever his own acroymn for it was). The story about Puffy hiring Southside Crip to steal the a DR has been confirmed by the Outlawz as well as other DeathRow associates. And its a known fact that both Puffy and Jimmy Henchmen hired Crips for security whenever they were in Los Angeles (hence, Orlando Anderson being present at the last event Biggie was at that night)

Why there hasnt been any arrests in the Biggie's murder when there was valueable evidence is the reason why his mother filed a lawsuit against the LAPD. And since the lawsuit was dismissed, their definately not going to solve it cause the don't have to worry about losing money. The reason why there haven't been arrests in the Pac murder is cause the LVPD just simply ain't interested in solving a crime that involved from some "black gangsters" from Los Angeles which isn't their jurisdiction.

Thanks for giving your side and opinion on the matter, but I still stand by my original opinion.

After all these years, this thread intrigued me and I looked up Tupac's autopsy photo and all I can say is It made me sad all over again.

missfee said:

Prospect said:

Unless you're hiring some army-trained or CIA-level sharpshooters, then yeah, you can hire somebody to merk a person sitting next to you. But not if its a damn drive-by shooting and their shooting multiple shots at the car ya'll are in. Most gangbangers aren't marksmen and bullets can richocet. Plus if Suge got mad about Pac leaving DeathRow, he wouldnt have to kill him - cause Pac wouldve been left asshole naked and broke him cause everything Pac had (even his momma's crib) was in Suge's name.

And nobody really knows for sure what Pac's future plans were. Yes, he was getting ready to start his record label, but at same time, he was talkin about starting DeathRow East (an East Coast wing of DeathRow for east coast rappers), which is what he was admantly promoting at the VMAs just days before he was shot. And he said that he planned on doing A&R at DeathRow in his interview with Sway. I mightve been lookin for some financial independence, but I don't he wouldve left DeathRow anytime. Plus, with DeathRow, he had all of the backup he needed against Bad Boy, Jimmy Henchmen etc. etc.

Everybody knows that Suge wasn't a real Blood, but he's was affiliated with the Bloods, just like 2pac became affiliated when came to DeathRow and starting sayin "M.O.B." (regardless of whatever his own acroymn for it was). The story about Puffy hiring Southside Crip to steal the a DR has been confirmed by the Outlawz as well as other DeathRow associates. And its a known fact that both Puffy and Jimmy Henchmen hired Crips for security whenever they were in Los Angeles (hence, Orlando Anderson being present at the last event Biggie was at that night)

Why there hasnt been any arrests in the Biggie's murder when there was valueable evidence is the reason why his mother filed a lawsuit against the LAPD. And since the lawsuit was dismissed, their definately not going to solve it cause the don't have to worry about losing money. The reason why there haven't been arrests in the Pac murder is cause the LVPD just simply ain't interested in solving a crime that involved from some "black gangsters" from Los Angeles which isn't their jurisdiction.

Thanks for giving your side and opinion on the matter, but I still stand by my original opinion.

Its all good, but these ain't my opinions; these are facts. Research them. And I personally know people who have worked around alot of these artists for years. In fact, my cousin used to work with DJ Quik back then around that time.

BTW: this is a pic of the stolen DeathRow medallion that the cops found during a raid in one of the Crips' houses.

nursev said:

After all these years, this thread intrigued me and I looked up Tupac's autopsy photo and all I can say is It made me sad all over again.

Reality is hardcore sometimes. You want to believe in the fantasy so bad that someone may be alive but we all know that ain't true in the long run.

Dren5 said:

The fact that he says no one saw Tupac after his death, is bullshit.

There were pics of him all over the web after it happened.

...Do NOT go looking for them. Trust me. I saw them and ...

I remember those pics.