http://www.youtube.com/wa...ure=relmfu

jonylawson said:

you want to see an artist full of shit? joss stone on tavis smiley.........

By shit you mean hair products?

I've never heard of this woman.

lol @ title of thread!

I'm not a fan of said 'artist'

'dre

TD3 said:

I've never heard of this woman.

I have her first 3 records. She was discovered by Betty Wright. Lattimore (Let's Straighten It Out), Little Beaver, and other veteran soul musicians played on her first 2 albums. She was around 16 on her debut.

As much as I want to, I can't stand, Joss.

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What is the problem? Sounds legit 2 me.

I agree with Gray: there's no problem here.

People always say that when they flop though. It's just about the music. Joss please. If you had the chance to sell like Adele you'd take it.

she screams contrived.....

did you see tavis's face??

PaisleyRose said:

What she said was beautiful! I buy and listen to older music because it is so much better (in general). They just seem to care more about quality. Joss is saying that she respects that sentiment and wants to emulate it.

yes it was beautiful but seemed so insincere coming from her........

jonylawson said:

she screams contrived.....

did you see tavis's face??

Tavis is full o' shit himself too, the man is a shit factory that keeps on giving. Two peas in a pod, that was your point, right?

Anyway, great material, horrible singing voice.

Harlepolis said:

jonylawson said:

she screams contrived.....

did you see tavis's face??

Tavis is full o' shit himself too, the man is a shit factory that keeps on giving. Two peas in a pod, that was your point, right?

Anyway, great material, horrible singing voice.

really?

im british so know nothing much about tavis cept he has interviewed alot of very intresting peeps and he is obsessed by P

i like him! whats the crack? lowdown?

I have that "The Soul Sessions" EP or whatever it's called.

I used to love "Fell in Love with a Boy"...until I heard Nikka Costa.

Then all I could think was how much better she'd sound singing it.

Harlepolis said:

jonylawson said:

she screams contrived.....

did you see tavis's face??

Tavis is full o' shit himself too, the man is a shit factory that keeps on giving. Two peas in a pod, that was your point, right?

Anyway, great material, horrible singing voice.

Her vocals always seemed so forced to me. No natural flow. Lisa Stansfield now THAT'S blue eyed soul that flows naturally.

I like Joss With the right type of song and producer,she could become a superstar.She hasn't found it yet.

I was rolling my eyes until the last part of the clip when she said something fascinating. After complaining about the downgrading of musical standards caused by the over-emphasis on image, she conceded the possibility that she herself may be a symptom of the problem. I respect her for that.

There are numerous "artists" who prosper while producing soulless music who never have an iota of shame about it. She on the other hand is saying her respect for the music is such that she would retire if she thought she was part of that.

The bad news for her is that - and I hate to say this as she's such a nice person - she is indeed a symptom of the problem. As a young white ingenue with a black-sounding voice she was given opportunities many far more talented black women would be denied. I do think she has the potential to be great as there is real talent (and integrity) there, but she is a looong way from fulfilling that potential.

After hearing this track from Jeff Beck's EMOTION & COMMOTION release, it occurred to me that she should probably change genres.



...There's No Other Me


For my money, she comes off much better as a Rock vocalist.


Music for adventurous listeners


tA

Tribal Records

I'm not a huge fan of her music, but I don't see anything wrong with what she said

midnightmover said:

I was rolling my eyes until the last part of the clip when she said something fascinating. After complaining about the downgrading of musical standards caused by the over-emphasis on image, she conceded the possibility that she herself may be a symptom of the problem. I respect her for that.

There are numerous "artists" who prosper while producing soulless music who never have an iota of shame about it. She on the other hand is saying her respect for the music is such that she would retire if she thought she was part of that.

The bad news for her is that - and I hate to say this as she's such a nice person - she is indeed a symptom of the problem. As a young white ingenue with a black-sounding voice she was given opportunities many far more talented black women would be denied. I do think she has the potential to be great as there is real talent (and integrity) there, but she is a looong way from fulfilling that potential.

Oh lawd , that nonsense again

There's plenty ugly black female singers that made it big

Full of shit? Man, she was right on!

"Music back then was good because it had to be." Hell yeah! There were no videos, no auto-tuners, etc. There was just radio, your live act, and maybe a lip-synch on "American Bandstand", "Soul Train" or "Don Kirschner's Rock Concert".

I don't agree with everything she does, but she is right freaking on in that clip.

lyecry said:

Harlepolis said:

Tavis is full o' shit himself too, the man is a shit factory that keeps on giving. Two peas in a pod, that was your point, right?

Anyway, great material, horrible singing voice.

Her vocals always seemed so forced to me. No natural flow. Lisa Stansfield now THAT'S blue eyed soul that flows naturally.

Smoking totally ruined her voice.

RodeoSchro said:

Full of shit? Man, she was right on!

"Music back then was good because it had to be." Hell yeah! There were no videos, no auto-tuners, etc. There was just radio, your live act, and maybe a lip-synch on "American Bandstand", "Soul Train" or "Don Kirschner's Rock Concert".

I don't agree with everything she does, but she is right freaking on in that clip.

YOU ALL MISSING MY POINT

What she said was 100% CORRECT

I JUST DO NOT BELIEVE SHE MEANT A WORD OF IT..SHE HAS LEARNT TO SAY THE RIGHT THING.........Sounded like she read all the correct "black "things to say on tavis.....

SHE SOUNDS THEREFORE FULL OF SHIT

"LOOK AT ME IM SO GENUINE"

no your not.at all

jonylawson said:

RodeoSchro said:

Full of shit? Man, she was right on!

"Music back then was good because it had to be." Hell yeah! There were no videos, no auto-tuners, etc. There was just radio, your live act, and maybe a lip-synch on "American Bandstand", "Soul Train" or "Don Kirschner's Rock Concert".

I don't agree with everything she does, but she is right freaking on in that clip.

YOU ALL MISSING MY POINT

What she said was 100% CORRECT

I JUST DO NOT BELIEVE SHE MEANT A WORD OF IT..SHE HAS LEARNT TO SAY THE RIGHT THING.........Sounded like she read all the correct "black "things to say on tavis.....

SHE SOUNDS THEREFORE FULL OF SHIT

"LOOK AT ME IM SO GENUINE"

no your not.at all

amen

'dre

jonylawson said:

RodeoSchro said:

Full of shit? Man, she was right on!

"Music back then was good because it had to be." Hell yeah! There were no videos, no auto-tuners, etc. There was just radio, your live act, and maybe a lip-synch on "American Bandstand", "Soul Train" or "Don Kirschner's Rock Concert".

I don't agree with everything she does, but she is right freaking on in that clip.

YOU ALL MISSING MY POINT

What she said was 100% CORRECT

I JUST DO NOT BELIEVE SHE MEANT A WORD OF IT..SHE HAS LEARNT TO SAY THE RIGHT THING.........Sounded like she read all the correct "black "things to say on tavis.....

SHE SOUNDS THEREFORE FULL OF SHIT

"LOOK AT ME IM SO GENUINE"

no your not.at all

Okay, but how cynical are we now that we cannot take anyone for their word, and if they say the right thing it's somehow worse than believably saying the wrong thing?

I don't think she's that great, but I do believe she tries to be great in her own way and I do believe what she says.

shes a middle class white girl from the home counties whom was nabbed by a few producers love being one to try and get some of that crossover cash

stone fell for the hype and all of a sudden within a few years she starts acting all"black" and preaching about music?

its fucking embarrasing

its a little bit like when madonna started living in england and pretending she spoke in that cod UK accent

What are "home counties"? and what do you mean by "love being one to try"

scriptgirl said:

What are "home counties"? and what do you mean by "love being one to try"

sorry i meant quest love

and the home counties are usually blanket terms for the posh white middle class of southern england

joss is from devon...home of enid blyton and custard

jonylawson said:

shes a middle class white girl from the home counties whom was nabbed by a few producers love being one to try and get some of that crossover cash

stone fell for the hype and all of a sudden within a few years she starts acting all"black" and preaching about music?

its fucking embarrasing

its a little bit like when madonna started living in england and pretending she spoke in that cod UK accent

I know exactly what you mean, but it's inevitable.

She was pushed out there as a novelty act whether she knew it or not; the novelty being that she was a posh English kid imitating a 45 year old soul mama. Now she's trying to grow into an authentic, mature artist and it's an awkward fit at the moment.

She hasn't developed enough as a person (or as an artist) to fill that role yet so it feels inauthentic, but I give her credit for at least trying. Her heart is in the right place and there's no doubt she DOES respect the music. Also, underneath the flaws there is some genuine talent there.