NDRU said:

CynicKill said:

With all the touring and head writership alone he's most likely made more money with Foos then Nirvana.

Exactly, nobody's saying that the Foo Fighters are a bigger band or had bigger hits, but they just may have made more money for Dave Grohl.

Actually someone in this thread did say that which is what I was responding to. wavesofbliss said:

"and the foo fighters have been more successful commercial than nirvana was"

That's just false.

As far as financial compensation I can agree that Dave has probably earned a lot more as a Foo Fighter than he did with Nirvana although I bet he makes a very nice chunk of change from "Smells Like Teen Spirit."

CynicKill said:

rdhull said:

The fuck they were. They were trying to be The Pixies....just because their shit blew up massively with the general public, dont get it twisted.

And I think they were good for what they did in a limited basis especially making the hair bands look foolish..but folks romanticize Nirvana just like they do Lauryn Hill and her one album equaling goddess status.

Ok I feel you on that, but just the fact that they wanted to be like local (they were local right) heroes as opposed to say, Guns and Roses with puzzling lyrics sort of puts them in the catagory of doing something quite not expected.

In the end though it's a good case of potential halted. I have no doubt they would still be great had circumstances been different.

Kurt wasn't speaking to his bandmates by '94, and had the euro leg of the tour been completed Grohl would have been out of the band. He's said as much himself, putting it down to Kurt's drug use having built a wall.

elmer said:

CynicKill said:

Ok I feel you on that, but just the fact that they wanted to be like local (they were local right) heroes as opposed to say, Guns and Roses with puzzling lyrics sort of puts them in the catagory of doing something quite not expected.

In the end though it's a good case of potential halted. I have no doubt they would still be great had circumstances been different.

Kurt wasn't speaking to his bandmates by '94, and had the euro leg of the tour been completed Grohl would have been out of the band. He's said as much himself, putting it down to Kurt's drug use having built a wall.

circumstances

Timmy84 said:

CynicKill said:

With all the touring and head writership alone he's most likely made more money with Foos then Nirvana.

Ah good point. Yeah he's definitely raking the bucks with the Foos. I get what you mean now.

you mean you both get what i was sayin

i saw courtney in the man in the moon and the kidnap movie with kevin bacon - i just didnt realize it was her until the scene on the bed(god its been ages) but still, CL is mostly talk and no delivery. and bcos of that she can only get attention thru slag off others and running around naked. i agree with the post about her being so dependent on whoever else is around which is whay LTT sounds so much like nirvana. if i picked thru all her other releases i could put together a decent record but the rest of them sound patchy to me. stil,l shes more like a one hit wonder than a legacy artist in both music and film.

CynicKill said:

With all the touring and head writership alone he's most likely made more money with Foos then Nirvana.

You think? He said after Nirvana he was worth about 16mill, and the royalties....sheesh, just the packet 12 months following Kurts demapping would have been pretty hefty. Dale Crover from the Melvins played drums on a few Bleach tracks and told a radio show last year he earns near 20,000 a year in payments.

CynicKill said:

elmer said:

Kurt wasn't speaking to his bandmates by '94, and had the euro leg of the tour been completed Grohl would have been out of the band. He's said as much himself, putting it down to Kurt's drug use having built a wall.

circumstances

I took you as meaning had Kurt lived.

rialb said:

NDRU said:

Exactly, nobody's saying that the Foo Fighters are a bigger band or had bigger hits, but they just may have made more money for Dave Grohl.

Actually someone in this thread did say that which is what I was responding to. wavesofbliss said:

"and the foo fighters have been more successful commercial than nirvana was"

That's just false.

As far as financial compensation I can agree that Dave has probably earned a lot more as a Foo Fighter than he did with Nirvana although I bet he makes a very nice chunk of change from "Smells Like Teen Spirit."

gotcha

elmer said:

CynicKill said:

circumstances

I took you as meaning had Kurt lived.

In essence, had Kurt not been so F!'d up.

Drug abuse...

Courtney...

Physical problems...

Personality quirks...

I agree Nirvana made a lot of money, but I never fail to forgot how much money artists DON'T make off their big sellers.

But Nevermind was a BIG seller so...

CynicKill said:

I agree Nirvana made a lot of money, but I never fail to forgot how much money artists DON'T make off their big sellers.

But Nevermind was a BIG seller so...

I think the reason why most artists don't make money off their best-selling albums is possibly they don't have publishing companies or own a publishing company. You can write all the hits you can but still get paid 50 cents for every play. If you have a publishing company and own one however, you're BANKING.

Timmy84 said:

CynicKill said:

I agree Nirvana made a lot of money, but I never fail to forgot how much money artists DON'T make off their big sellers.

But Nevermind was a BIG seller so...

I think the reason why most artists don't make money off their best-selling albums is possibly they don't have publishing companies or own a publishing company. You can write all the hits you can but still get paid 50 cents for every play. If you have a publishing company and own one however, you're BANKING.

Yea and truthfully writier's credit can go a long way even without the company.

Khandi Burress seems to have steady flow from her songwriting credits. And Chris Brown probably doesn't have to work again after contributing to "Forever" and "Disturbia". So yeah, I can see Nirvana hitting some paydirt with Nevermind.

CynicKill said:

Timmy84 said:

I think the reason why most artists don't make money off their best-selling albums is possibly they don't have publishing companies or own a publishing company. You can write all the hits you can but still get paid 50 cents for every play. If you have a publishing company and own one however, you're BANKING.

Yea and truthfully writier's credit can go a long way even without the company.

Khandi Burress seems to have steady flow from her songwriting credits. And Chris Brown probably doesn't have to work again after contributing to "Forever" and "Disturbia". So yeah, I can see Nirvana hitting some paydirt with Nevermind.

Especially if it's hits then yeah they're set and hopefully are not getting ripped off. I forgot Chris wrote those songs.

Courtney Love Apologizes to Daughter Frances Bean

Courtney Love is reaching out to her daughter Frances Bean Cobain – on Twitter.

Love previously angered her daughter by claiming on the social media site that Kurt Cobain's former bandmate Dave Grohl "hit on" Frances Bean, but now Love says she regrets spreading the rumor, which was denied by both Grohl and Frances.

"Bean, sorry I believed the gossip," Love tweeted early Saturday. "Mommy loves you."

Frances angrily answered her mom's earlier accusations on Thursday saying, "While I'm generally silent on the affairs of my biological mother, her recent tirade has taken a gross turn. I have never been approached by Dave Grohl in more than a platonic way. I'm in a monogamous relationship and very happy."

Grohl also said the claims were "offensive and absolutely untrue."

Frances is engaged to Isaiah Silva, frontman of the rock band the Rambles.

http://www.people.com/peo...19,00.html

musicjunky318 said:

Courtney Love Apologizes to Daughter Frances Bean

Courtney Love is reaching out to her daughter Frances Bean Cobain – on Twitter.

Love previously angered her daughter by claiming on the social media site that Kurt Cobain's former bandmate Dave Grohl "hit on" Frances Bean, but now Love says she regrets spreading the rumor, which was denied by both Grohl and Frances.

"Bean, sorry I believed the gossip," Love tweeted early Saturday. "Mommy loves you."

Frances angrily answered her mom's earlier accusations on Thursday saying, "While I'm generally silent on the affairs of my biological mother, her recent tirade has taken a gross turn. I have never been approached by Dave Grohl in more than a platonic way. I'm in a monogamous relationship and very happy."

Grohl also said the claims were "offensive and absolutely untrue."

Frances is engaged to Isaiah Silva, frontman of the rock band the Rambles.

http://www.people.com/peo...19,00.html

Courtney is a hopelessly, twitter-addicted fool!

So she apologizes to Frances and not Dave?

CynicKill said:

musicjunky318 said:

Courtney Love Apologizes to Daughter Frances Bean

Courtney Love is reaching out to her daughter Frances Bean Cobain – on Twitter.

Love previously angered her daughter by claiming on the social media site that Kurt Cobain's former bandmate Dave Grohl "hit on" Frances Bean, but now Love says she regrets spreading the rumor, which was denied by both Grohl and Frances.

"Bean, sorry I believed the gossip," Love tweeted early Saturday. "Mommy loves you."

Frances angrily answered her mom's earlier accusations on Thursday saying, "While I'm generally silent on the affairs of my biological mother, her recent tirade has taken a gross turn. I have never been approached by Dave Grohl in more than a platonic way. I'm in a monogamous relationship and very happy."

Grohl also said the claims were "offensive and absolutely untrue."

Frances is engaged to Isaiah Silva, frontman of the rock band the Rambles.

http://www.people.com/peo...19,00.html

Courtney is a hopelessly, twitter-addicted fool!

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Courtney, Courtney, Courtney...

scriptgirl said:

So she apologizes to Frances and not Dave?

Exactly what I was thinking. Lucky for Dave no one believed Courtney anyway but if she was someone with a shred of credibility an accusation like that could have done his reputation some harm and followed him for the rest of his life.

Obviously she hates Dave but I think that a classy apology to him would have made her look like a decent person.

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rialb said:

scriptgirl said:

So she apologizes to Frances and not Dave?

Exactly what I was thinking. Lucky for Dave no one believed Courtney anyway bit if she was someone with a shred of credibility an accusation like that could have done his reputation some harm and followed him for the rest of his life.

Obviously she hates Dave but I think that a classy apology to him would have made her look like a decent person.

I'm convinced she tried to hit on Dave and Dave told her to fuck off and she's been mad at him ever since.

Courtney always goes after Dave and never Chris. I wonder if she has a thing for Dave.

scriptgirl said:

Courtney always goes after Dave and never Chris. I wonder if she has a thing for Dave.

She does. I think you mean Krist (not Chris) lol

rialb said:

Empress said:

I always think the same thing everytime I see her ugly face in the news. She is a loser who has been totally irrelevant for years. She is bitter and jealous of the fact that Dave has moved on and has a very successful career.

She's just a skank ho looking for attention.

How dare you refer to the honourable and upstanding Courtney Love as a "skank ho!" Does this look like the actions of a skank ho?

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She looks stoned out of her brain in that pic. It's assholery to hold stupid behavior against someone when they're drunk off their ass or stoned out of their mind.

I have yet to hear anybody say anything against her that isn't total hearsay. And a lot of times too when people say she sucks if you ask them WHY they say that, that's all you get, or a blank stare and them babbling nonsensically.

Simple fact of the matter is that it's more groupthink bullshit and people just piling on someone because they see it's the "In" thing to do. I hate that bullshit.

As far as the actual subject of the thread goes - I really don't think it's that far-fetched, especially if the dude does have some kind of obsession or preoccupation with Cobain, plenty of people try to associate themselves in some way or another with their idol. And considering that Frances has his blood coursing through her veins, she's probably going to have to be on the lookout alot for unwanted attention and people wanting to associate with her in some way solely because of who her dad was.

scriptgirl said:

Courtney always goes after Dave and never Chris. I wonder if she has a thing for Dave.

I think that Dave just makes an easier target. He has a much higher profile than Krist.

wavesofbliss said:

Identity said:

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Frances Cobain: "Twitter Should Ban My Mother"

04/12/12

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Frances Cobain -- the daughter of Hole frontwoman Courtney Love and late Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain -- on Thursday waded into the war of words raging between her mother and Foo Fighters front man Dave Grohl.

Two days after a Twitter rant in which Love accused Grohl of essentially groping her daughter -- an accusation Grohl denied -- Frances released a statement saying, "While I'm generally silent on the affairs of my biological mother, her recent tirade has taken a gross turn. I have never been approached by Dave Grohl in more than a platonic way. I'm in a monogamous relationship and very happy."

Frances went on to add, "Twitter should ban my mother."

thats what i was waiting for! good for her!

This is a good thing, to you?

You know this is a mother and child right?

I don't find a thing 'good' or positive about this and actually read it wanting to shake my head "No" like, "Don't do that to your mom".

You only get one, and she was there wiping your ass and feeding you when you couldn't do it yourself Frances.

To defend some person outside the family?

No. Just...no.

rialb said:

scriptgirl said:

Courtney always goes after Dave and never Chris. I wonder if she has a thing for Dave.

I think that Dave just makes an easier target. He has a much higher profile than Krist.

@ Dren I get where you're trying to go with this, but you honestly think that woman has ever been reliable? Really?

Dren5 said:

She looks stoned out of her brain in that pic. It's assholery to hold stupid behavior against someone when they're drunk off their ass or stoned out of their mind.

Wow, I could not disagree with you any more. You're basically saying that drunk/high people shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. Assuming that she is high she chose to get high. Worse, she chose to get high in public. We're not talking about a stupid teenager of twenty-something. Courtney was in her forties when that picture was taken and she had a young daughter. What kind of mother thinks it is a good idea to get high in public and let random strangers suck on her titty? If that is how she wants to live her life she is free to do so but the consequence is that she has trashed her own reputation. No one did that to her, she did it to herself.

Dren5 said:

This is a good thing, to you?

You know this is a mother and child right?

I don't find a thing 'good' or positive about this and actually read it wanting to shake my head "No" like, "Don't do that to your mom".

You only get one, and she was there wiping your ass and feeding you when you couldn't do it yourself Frances.

To defend some person outside the family?

No. Just...no.

I can't say for certain, maybe Courtney was a fantastic mother, but it is very possible that she was a terrible mother and the best thing for Frances to do is to get as far away from her as possible. Some people are just self-destructive and hurt everyone around them. Courtney may be one of those people. We do know that in the past she was more concerned about getting high than taking care of her daughter, what does that tell you about the kind of mother Courtney was?

One thing is for certain, Frances is in a position to know much more about her mother than either one of us. I think we should leave it up to her to decide what is best for her.

Dren5 said:

wavesofbliss said:

thats what i was waiting for! good for her!

This is a good thing, to you?

You know this is a mother and child right?

I don't find a thing 'good' or positive about this and actually read it wanting to shake my head "No" like, "Don't do that to your mom".

You only get one, and she was there wiping your ass and feeding you when you couldn't do it yourself Frances.

To defend some person outside the family?

No. Just...no.

i think its great for france to clear the air and tell her side of the story. she has made it clear in that stament that it didnt happen. good for her. about all the family bullshit- the fact that france refers to CL as my biological mother , which is how courtney refers to her own parents as a way to distance herself from them, makes it clear that she does not hold that canof bond with CL. finally, france is an adult and she can certainly determine the kind of relationship she has with CL. if frances holds her at a distance that fine with me- its her call to make. and yes for her own mental and emotional health it is proably best that she keep distance btween them. the things france has said in the emancipation petition make it pretty clear CL is dangerous- even ifyou only believe half of it.

And it's funny how someone said "all about family" when the woman herself (Courtney) was believing her daughter's FRIENDS. Keep it all in the family my ass.

I get the impression she likes attention. Not sure why I do, but...

Ears said:

I get the impression she likes attention. Not sure why I do, but...

Oh you don't say...