petes2 said:

HotGritz said:

Yeah but if you bustin' a nut and climaxin' it is not just about power. You just like that shit. You like the way it feels. I understand that for political purposes we must paint things in a different light but IRL people do shit cuz they ENJOY it on a physical AND psychological level. Get's their dick hard excuse my francais.

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I don't know, what about these creeps that go out and rape 90 year old women? That has to be more than physical attraction. And hearing that a debarge raped a debarge seems to be along the lines of humiliating one, nothing is less sexually attractive than siblings to me. I've heard Paul Mooney raped his own son from a source close to Richard Pryor and you know what? When you consider how bitter and prideful that man is, it just doesn't seem that farfetched. Hopefully it's just talking shit.

WHAT?!

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

The DeBarges surely have a detection alarm in their brains somewhere.

I think it's broken! Seriously Timmy, they just can't seem to leave each other alone...in so many ways! Ain't none of them gonna get right unless they stand on their own two, but they seem to be crabs in a barrel w/ MamaD as lead crabette!

I can't imagine what would happen to them once Mama D, well, you know... you think they change then?

Charges have been dropped. http://www.rollingstone.c...d-20120323

O LAWD!!!!!!!!!

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EL DEBARGE: I Was WRONGLY Accused... I'm No Drug Dealer

Timmy84 said:

petes2 said:

I don't know, what about these creeps that go out and rape 90 year old women? That has to be more than physical attraction. And hearing that a debarge raped a debarge seems to be along the lines of humiliating one, nothing is less sexually attractive than siblings to me. I've heard Paul Mooney raped his own son from a source close to Richard Pryor and you know what? When you consider how bitter and prideful that man is, it just doesn't seem that farfetched. Hopefully it's just talking shit.

WHAT?!

ya, i don't know if I should be putting this out there being as it's just talk. I worked on a movie set a couple years ago. I met Richard Pryor's former bodyguard Rashad Khan and I asked him about Paul when other people were around, later he came to me and spoke one on one and said this to me. Out of all the off the wall stuff that he could have said, of course I was shocked. Honestly, I think it's very, very possible that he and Paul had one of those situations where they were possessive and competitive of Richards' attention. But, ya, it made no sense then, i was too shocked to ask much more about it at the time. You know, my only question to Rashad was "was Paul as close to Richard as he claims in his book?" because he seemed to take credit for everything. That's all I asked and I got this little nugget back. But upon reflection, as I've said, with all the things that both Black and Indian picked up during the dark years of America, anything is possible, anything. Native Americans did not molest children before colonization, and women were highly, highly respected, now we have the highest rates for molestation and rape. It's definitely a problem for both groups.

petes2 said:

Timmy84 said:

WHAT?!

ya, i don't know if I should be putting this out there being as it's just talk. I worked on a movie set a couple years ago. I met Richard Pryor's former bodyguard Rashad Khan and I asked him about Paul when other people were around, later he came to me and spoke one on one and said this to me. Out of all the off the wall stuff that he could have said, of course I was shocked. Honestly, I think it's very, very possible that he and Paul had one of those situations where they were possessive and competitive of Richards' attention. But, ya, it made no sense then, i was too shocked to ask much more about it at the time. You know, my only question to Rashad was "was Paul as close to Richard as he claims in his book?" because he seemed to take credit for everything. That's all I asked and I got this little nugget back. But upon reflection, as I've said, with all the things that both Black and Indian picked up during the dark years of America, anything is possible, anything. Native Americans did not molest children before colonization, and women were highly, highly respected, now we have the highest rates for molestation and rape. It's definitely a problem for both groups.

I always thought there was a rivalry between Richard and Paul. I could see Paul being jealous that Richard got all the fame and yet it took him years to get recognized like that in his own right though he wrote or co-wrote a lot of the famous monologues Richard did and also provided scripts for "The Richard Pryor Show", "In Living Color" and "Chappelle's Show" but it sounds crazy to think that he was as fucked up, if not worse, than Richard in his personal life. But yeah it seems molestation and rape seems to be real problems for Black and American Indian groups.

Timmy84 said:

petes2 said:

ya, i don't know if I should be putting this out there being as it's just talk. I worked on a movie set a couple years ago. I met Richard Pryor's former bodyguard Rashad Khan and I asked him about Paul when other people were around, later he came to me and spoke one on one and said this to me. Out of all the off the wall stuff that he could have said, of course I was shocked. Honestly, I think it's very, very possible that he and Paul had one of those situations where they were possessive and competitive of Richards' attention. But, ya, it made no sense then, i was too shocked to ask much more about it at the time. You know, my only question to Rashad was "was Paul as close to Richard as he claims in his book?" because he seemed to take credit for everything. That's all I asked and I got this little nugget back. But upon reflection, as I've said, with all the things that both Black and Indian picked up during the dark years of America, anything is possible, anything. Native Americans did not molest children before colonization, and women were highly, highly respected, now we have the highest rates for molestation and rape. It's definitely a problem for both groups.

I always thought there was a rivalry between Richard and Paul. I could see Paul being jealous that Richard got all the fame and yet it took him years to get recognized like that in his own right though he wrote or co-wrote a lot of the famous monologues Richard did and also provided scripts for "The Richard Pryor Show", "In Living Color" and "Chappelle's Show" but it sounds crazy to think that he was as fucked up, if not worse, than Richard in his personal life. But yeah it seems molestation and rape seems to be real problems for Black and American Indian groups.

I don't believe Mooney ever had a problem with Richard, I think Mooney's downfall was his own personal strength and pride. Hollywood would not touch a black man like that in that era so of course he's bitter. I do believe he and Rashad could not have been friends. You hear all kinds of crazy rumours, who knows what's what. But personality wise, having had a black stepdad who could be abusive, when he was abusive it was always because his pride was stung or he felt we were trying to usurp him in some way. That kind of stuff comes from white slavemasters and is toxic as hell, i know, i've experienced it so I don't put those kinds of things outside of the realm of possibility.

petes2 said:

Timmy84 said:

I always thought there was a rivalry between Richard and Paul. I could see Paul being jealous that Richard got all the fame and yet it took him years to get recognized like that in his own right though he wrote or co-wrote a lot of the famous monologues Richard did and also provided scripts for "The Richard Pryor Show", "In Living Color" and "Chappelle's Show" but it sounds crazy to think that he was as fucked up, if not worse, than Richard in his personal life. But yeah it seems molestation and rape seems to be real problems for Black and American Indian groups.

I don't believe Mooney ever had a problem with Richard, I think Mooney's downfall was his own personal strength and pride. Hollywood would not touch a black man like that in that era so of course he's bitter. I do believe he and Rashad could not have been friends. You hear all kinds of crazy rumours, who knows what's what. But personality wise, having had a black stepdad who could be abusive, when he was abusive it was always because his pride was stung or he felt we were trying to usurp him in some way. That kind of stuff comes from white slavemasters and is toxic as hell, i know, i've experienced it so I don't put those kinds of things outside of the realm of possibility.

Ah I gotcha.

NaughtyKitty said:

EL DEBARGE: I Was WRONGLY Accused... I'm No Drug Dealer

El DeBarge says cops made a huge mistake when they arrested him for drug possession this week ... but he and the rest of his family are EXTREMELY relieved to hear prosecutors won't be pressing charges.

TMZ spoke with Spencer Vodnoy, a lawyer for the DeBarge family, who tells us, "The family said they were relieved to hear that no charges will be filed against El."

He adds, "A the end of the day the truth appears to have prevailed and I am sure he will be getting back to work on his career, his health and happiness."

As we previously reported, El was arrested in L.A. on Tuesday for coke possession with intent to sell ... but officials later dropped the case claiming there was not enough evidence to prove the singer did anything wrong.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

NaughtyKitty said:

EL DEBARGE: I Was WRONGLY Accused... I'm No Drug Dealer

El DeBarge says cops made a huge mistake when they arrested him for drug possession this week ... but he and the rest of his family are EXTREMELY relieved to hear prosecutors won't be pressing charges.

TMZ spoke with Spencer Vodnoy, a lawyer for the DeBarge family, who tells us, "The family said they were relieved to hear that no charges will be filed against El."

He adds, "A the end of the day the truth appears to have prevailed and I am sure he will be getting back to work on his career, his health and happiness."

As we previously reported, El was arrested in L.A. on Tuesday for coke possession with intent to sell ... but officials later dropped the case claiming there was not enough evidence to prove the singer did anything wrong.

HotGritz said:

brooksie said:

This might sound horribly superficial, but most guys have never had a woman as hot as El De Barge! If they had a shot, who knows what might happen?! El's that purty!

Sorry, but ya know it's true!

Ewwww Brooksie. Damn, El look good but he aint no Paula Patton. Just sayin'

Please chile...Paula WISHES she was as fine as Eldra Patrick De Barge! Ponder his MUGSHOT for a sec. He's so beautiful that his face is like a special effect! This man looks like someone thought up by Di Vinci or Rembrant....and that's before you get to the singing voice! Truth!

He looked a little wild in his '08 mugshot though... goddamn.

MadamGoodnight said:

You ain't lying! Some of these pretty men make 'em wanna switch teams! Remember Jamie Foxx said he couldn't look Prince in the eye in his stand up. I haven't looked at Jamie the same since. Hell, I don't put nothing past nobody.

Jamie: I couldn't look him in his eyes...this pretty bitch cute as a muthafukka! I challenge any dude to look in his eyes and not feel some kinda shit!

Switch...umm, now who does that remind me of?! I always wonder if Bobby an 'em were having a little fun w/ the group name! Telling us a lil sumptin'!

As for Jamie, can't hate on him. He's right, Prince is a cute as a little Peke you wanna hold in your lap!

Timmy84 said:

He looked a little wild in his '08 mugshot though... goddamn.

You just hadda go there, but guess what he was STILL purty! El was fucked up beyond belief...zooted outta his gourd, but imagine what the Bubbas woulda said when the dope wore off?!

Did he have that whole Suge Avery thang goin' on....."you SHO is uggggglaayyy".

(Naw, now that you mention it, I ain't right am I? )

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

He looked a little wild in his '08 mugshot though... goddamn.

You just hadda go there, but guess what he was STILL purty! El was fucked up beyond belief...zooted outta his gourd, but imagine what the Bubbas woulda said when the dope wore off?!

Did he have that whole Suge Avery thang goin' on....."you SHO is uggggglaayyy".

(Naw, now that you mention it, I ain't right am I? )

Nah he looked crazy here. He wasn't pretty this time around.

Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

You just hadda go there, but guess what he was STILL purty! El was fucked up beyond belief...zooted outta his gourd, but imagine what the Bubbas woulda said when the dope wore off?!

Did he have that whole Suge Avery thang goin' on....."you SHO is uggggglaayyy".

(Naw, now that you mention it, I ain't right am I? )

Nah he looked crazy here. He wasn't pretty this time around.

he looks more liike a crackhead morris that debarge. It's amazing how some people like debarge and whitney can be so blessed and still miserable. I remember seeing el as a teen and thinking damn he makes michael and prince look ugly! That was before I realized how talented he was in addition to the looks. What's between your ears can make you miserable.

Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

You just hadda go there, but guess what he was STILL purty! El was fucked up beyond belief...zooted outta his gourd, but imagine what the Bubbas woulda said when the dope wore off?!

Did he have that whole Suge Avery thang goin' on....."you SHO is uggggglaayyy".

(Naw, now that you mention it, I ain't right am I? )

Nah he looked crazy here. He wasn't pretty this time around.

That night, clearly the white horse was riding him and not the other way 'round. Poor cat.

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

Nah he looked crazy here. He wasn't pretty this time around.

That night, clearly the white horse was riding him and not the other way 'round. Poor cat.

The brother was definitely going through the ringer...

Timmy84 said:

can't imagine what would happen to them once Mama D, well, you know... you think they change then?

No, it's all so ingrained in them IMHO. Besides there's always Bunny and/or Peaches to use the whip hand. Etterlene Jr. carries heself a bit like Sr. and Peaches is Sr's right hand.

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

can't imagine what would happen to them once Mama D, well, you know... you think they change then?

No, it's all so ingrained in them IMHO. Besides there's always Bunny and/or Peaches to use the whip hand. Etterlene Jr. carries heself a bit like Sr. and Peaches is Sr's right hand.

Ooh I forgot about Bunny... damn Peaches get down like that?

I wonder if women ever use "Jr." in their names? Odd mother and daughter share the same name.

Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

No, it's all so ingrained in them IMHO. Besides there's always Bunny and/or Peaches to use the whip hand. Etterlene Jr. carries heself a bit like Sr. and Peaches is Sr's right hand.

Ooh I forgot about Bunny... damn Peaches get down like that?

I wonder if women ever use "Jr." in their names? Odd mother and daughter share the same name.

Actually yes. It was kinda going out by the time we get to Etterlene Sr's gen, but there are a few cases that happen now and then. Both Bunny and Bobby were "Jrs" to their parents. I think that was probably quite unusual, making both eldest "Jrs". Bobby's son is a III (#3rd). Wonder if they call him Tres?

Peaches (aka Carol) is something of the La Toya of the De Barges...the Aunt Agatha. She's very close to her mother, very religious, so forth....she has raised and is currently raising several of her neices and nephews. I suspect her personality is somewhat like her mother's given how close they seem to be. (Take that how you like! )

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

Ooh I forgot about Bunny... damn Peaches get down like that?

I wonder if women ever use "Jr." in their names? Odd mother and daughter share the same name.

Actually yes. It was kinda going out by the time we get to Etterlene Sr's gen, but there are a few cases that happen now and then. Both Bunny and Bobby were "Jrs" to their parents. I think that was probably quite unusual, making both eldest "Jrs". Bobby's son is a III (#3rd). Wonder if they call him Tres?

Peaches (aka Carol) is something of the La Toya of the De Barges...the Aunt Agatha. She's very close to her mother, very religious, so forth....she has raised and is currently raising several of her neices and nephews. I suspect her personality is somewhat like her mother's given how close they seem to be. (Take that how you like! )

Real interesting...

All this talk about Paul Mooney. I did not know he had connection with Richard pryor. And writing tor different people. Very interesting.

prodigalfan said:

All this talk about Paul Mooney. I did not know he had connection with Richard pryor. And writing tor different people. Very interesting.

Yes Paul is a pioneer in the comedy game & also an actor in his own right....Plus he was a regular writer for Redd foxx on the hit show "Sanford & Son" & a writer for the Dave Chappelle Show & "In Living Color". He created the most memorable skits on those shows..

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

prodigalfan said:

All this talk about Paul Mooney. I did not know he had connection with Richard pryor. And writing tor different people. Very interesting.

Yes Paul is a pioneer in the comedy game & also an actor in his own right....Plus he was a regular writer for Redd foxx on the hit show "Sanford & Son" & a writer for the Dave Chappelle Show & "In Living Color". He created the most memorable skits on those shows..

I LOVE Paul Mooney. He has written for alot of people and comedians. He NEVER gets his proper respect and thats mainly because his simply to black for Hollywood as he puts it.. Paul keeps it real. He could never be mainstream because he just doesnt give a fuck.. He speaks his mind and could care less. He talks alot of crazy shit but... it be true!!!!

mjscarousal said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Yes Paul is a pioneer in the comedy game & also an actor in his own right....Plus he was a regular writer for Redd foxx on the hit show "Sanford & Son" & a writer for the Dave Chappelle Show & "In Living Color". He created the most memorable skits on those shows..

I LOVE Paul Mooney. He has written for alot of people and comedians. He NEVER gets his proper respect and thats mainly because his simply to black for Hollywood as he puts it.. Paul keeps it real. He could never be mainstream because he just doesnt give a fuck.. He speaks his mind and could care less. He talks alot of crazy shit but... it be true!!!!

Luv peeps like that! He pushes buttons. But it be all true what he says...

ya i'm a major fan, know he's one of the best. I don't think I'll be able to see him this week, no dough unfortunately. I really wanted to make it. I'm just now listening to some Dick Gregory stuff off of youtube, he's crazy as fuck, got a million crazy conspiracy theories but he's still funny as hell and madly brilliant.

petes2 said:

ya i'm a major fan, know he's one of the best. I don't think I'll be able to see him this week, no dough unfortunately. I really wanted to make it. I'm just now listening to some Dick Gregory stuff off of youtube, he's crazy as fuck, got a million crazy conspiracy theories but he's still funny as hell and madly brilliant.

I was always 50/50 when it came to Dick... legend in the game but good Lord the stuff he comes up with. Least Carlin didn't do that in his later years.