brooksie said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

What bothers me is how La Toya now claims she was brain washed into saying & doing all those things back then.....After appearing on virtually every talk show there was back then. So now were suppose to believe it was all make bekieve.

The thing is, if one believes that she was sexually/emotionally/physically abused (as I do)...her later behavior makes (sick) sense. This is all about a family's group dynamics and how they cope w/ such group dysfunction. Each member has his/her role to play. Just like La Toya lived out "Aunt Agatha" w/in her family before she left, she's come back to living a lesser and different form of it upon returning. Given that she now has lots of money and didn't return "home" but to Las Vegas, it's not as intense as before but it's still there IMHO. This is why she's doing this tittle-tattle about her family still....she's not really stopped acting out the spinster aunt role!

The Jacksons are like the DeBarges in that they all have very specific patterns of self-destructive behavior and roles being played, IMHO. When they're away from each other, I suspect they can have some normalcy, but when the family's in the pic on any level.... it all goes back to the roles, more or less.

One thing I've always found interesting about La Toya is that when she "went home" she chose Vegas...where Joe lives, not LA where Katherine is. Given her intense anger at Katherine, which she expressed in her book and elsewhere, it makes some sick sense. La Toya seems to resent her brothers too because they seem to be acting out varying degrees Joe's fuckery. Why else is she talking about Jermaine and Whitney 30 years after?!

Personally I think it's giving Jack Gordon far too much credit when she says she was "brainwashed". That ratty little guy merely took advantage of what was already there..her anger, her truly fucked up family life, her need for attention at any costs, her narcissism, and her greed. I'll tell ya this, if Joe could have pulled off a even a fraction of a career for her like he did the others, I doubt we'd ever have heard any of this...true or not. "Brainwashing" is her her CYA excuse for her appalling and greed filled behavior IMHO.

Very Well Said. I Agree.

Gordon was a douche but Latoya's a nutcase with or without him. You can clearly see her elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. She's the "special" one in the family.

brooksie said:

SoulAlive said:

It reminds of when Michael was going through the molestation trial.She appeared on one of those "Inside Edition"-type shows,implying that her brother was a child molester."I've seen the checks that Michael paid to the parents",she said.

She loves a family scandal it gives her the chance to go to the media and get some (much needed) publicity of her own.

La Toya used to LIVE on Geraldo. That show was the thing back in the 90s and the whole Jacksons gossip machine lead by Flo Anthony was a big part of it. La Toya, Flo, Jermaine+Margaret used to rotate appearing.

[Edited 3/6/12 7:50am]

...and you guys know that allll those videos are available on youtube. Messy.

musicjunky318 said:

Gordon was a douche but Latoya's a nutcase with or without him. You can clearly see her elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. She's the "special" one in the family.

All of that is the result of their upbringing... its really sad really... I think if they got real affectionate love from both parents they would have turned out a little better.

missfee said:

Y'all a trip with these Jackson dick slanging timelines.

Girl I'm over here dying because of this thread

brooksie said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

What bothers me is how La Toya now claims she was brain washed into saying & doing all those things back then.....After appearing on virtually every talk show there was back then. So now were suppose to believe it was all make bekieve.

The thing is, if one believes that she was sexually/emotionally/physically abused (as I do)...her later behavior makes (sick) sense. This is all about a family's group dynamics and how they cope w/ such group dysfunction. Each member has his/her role to play. Just like La Toya lived out "Aunt Agatha" w/in her family before she left, she's come back to living a lesser and different form of it upon returning. Given that she now has lots of money and didn't return "home" but to Las Vegas, it's not as intense as before but it's still there IMHO. This is why she's doing this tittle-tattle about her family still....she's not really stopped acting out the spinster aunt role!

The Jacksons are like the DeBarges in that they all have very specific patterns of self-destructive behavior and roles being played, IMHO. When they're away from each other, I suspect they can have some normalcy, but when the family's in the pic on any level.... it all goes back to the roles, more or less.

One thing I've always found interesting about La Toya is that when she "went home" she chose Vegas...where Joe lives, not LA where Katherine is. Given her intense anger at Katherine, which she expressed in her book and elsewhere, it makes some sick sense. La Toya seems to resent her brothers too because they seem to be acting out varying degrees Joe's fuckery. Why else is she talking about Jermaine and Whitney 30 years after?!

Personally I think it's giving Jack Gordon far too much credit when she says she was "brainwashed". That ratty little guy merely took advantage of what was already there..her anger, her truly fucked up family life, her need for attention at any costs, her narcissism, and her greed. I'll tell ya this, if Joe could have pulled off a even a fraction of a career for her like he did the others, I doubt we'd ever have heard any of this...true or not. "Brainwashing" is her her CYA excuse for her appalling and greed filled behavior IMHO.

You. are. ON. FIRE.today. Brooksie!

You betta PREACH that

This is exactly how I've always felt about LaToya's situation. And having met her and spent time with her when she was married to Jack, I find your last paragraph particularly on point.

What has Jermaine had to say about his sister's revelation?

Personally, I don't think anything happened between Whitney and Jermaine. And if there was, who cares? It happened so long ago and Jermaine ain't even married to Hazel any more.

And frankly...within every pool of lies that Latoya gets out of the clap trap of a mouth of hers, there's very rarely, a mustard's seed worth of truth. The bitch will say anything for attention and money.

...Well I mean, at least she isn't making music videos with a cheap, dollar store metallic glove on, imitating her brother....

Ottensen said:

brooksie said:

The thing is, if one believes that she was sexually/emotionally/physically abused (as I do)...her later behavior makes (sick) sense. This is all about a family's group dynamics and how they cope w/ such group dysfunction. Each member has his/her role to play. Just like La Toya lived out "Aunt Agatha" w/in her family before she left, she's come back to living a lesser and different form of it upon returning. Given that she now has lots of money and didn't return "home" but to Las Vegas, it's not as intense as before but it's still there IMHO. This is why she's doing this tittle-tattle about her family still....she's not really stopped acting out the spinster aunt role!

The Jacksons are like the DeBarges in that they all have very specific patterns of self-destructive behavior and roles being played, IMHO. When they're away from each other, I suspect they can have some normalcy, but when the family's in the pic on any level.... it all goes back to the roles, more or less.

One thing I've always found interesting about La Toya is that when she "went home" she chose Vegas...where Joe lives, not LA where Katherine is. Given her intense anger at Katherine, which she expressed in her book and elsewhere, it makes some sick sense. La Toya seems to resent her brothers too because they seem to be acting out varying degrees Joe's fuckery. Why else is she talking about Jermaine and Whitney 30 years after?!

Personally I think it's giving Jack Gordon far too much credit when she says she was "brainwashed". That ratty little guy merely took advantage of what was already there..her anger, her truly fucked up family life, her need for attention at any costs, her narcissism, and her greed. I'll tell ya this, if Joe could have pulled off a even a fraction of a career for her like he did the others, I doubt we'd ever have heard any of this...true or not. "Brainwashing" is her her CYA excuse for her appalling and greed filled behavior IMHO.

You. are. ON. FIRE.today. Brooksie!

You betta PREACH that

This is exactly how I've always felt about LaToya's situation. And having met her and spent time with her when she was married to Jack, I find your last paragraph particularly on point.

You've met and spent time with her? Please share! If you dont mind, what is she really like?

Ottensen said:

brooksie said:

La Toya used to LIVE on Geraldo. That show was the thing back in the 90s and the whole Jacksons gossip machine lead by Flo Anthony was a big part of it. La Toya, Flo, Jermaine+Margaret used to rotate appearing.

[Edited 3/6/12 7:50am]

...and you guys know that allll those videos are available on youtube. Messy.

Wow...had no idea those shows were posted. Those were the days, eh?!

You know what I always found so interesting? Flo, who would defend the other Jacksons to the teeth, never really tried to shoot La Toya down back then. That actually added to her credibility in some strange way, at least for me.

Ottensen said:

brooksie said:

The thing is, if one believes that she was sexually/emotionally/physically abused (as I do)...her later behavior makes (sick) sense. This is all about a family's group dynamics and how they cope w/ such group dysfunction. Each member has his/her role to play. Just like La Toya lived out "Aunt Agatha" w/in her family before she left, she's come back to living a lesser and different form of it upon returning. Given that she now has lots of money and didn't return "home" but to Las Vegas, it's not as intense as before but it's still there IMHO. This is why she's doing this tittle-tattle about her family still....she's not really stopped acting out the spinster aunt role!

The Jacksons are like the DeBarges in that they all have very specific patterns of self-destructive behavior and roles being played, IMHO. When they're away from each other, I suspect they can have some normalcy, but when the family's in the pic on any level.... it all goes back to the roles, more or less.

One thing I've always found interesting about La Toya is that when she "went home" she chose Vegas...where Joe lives, not LA where Katherine is. Given her intense anger at Katherine, which she expressed in her book and elsewhere, it makes some sick sense. La Toya seems to resent her brothers too because they seem to be acting out varying degrees Joe's fuckery. Why else is she talking about Jermaine and Whitney 30 years after?!

Personally I think it's giving Jack Gordon far too much credit when she says she was "brainwashed". That ratty little guy merely took advantage of what was already there..her anger, her truly fucked up family life, her need for attention at any costs, her narcissism, and her greed. I'll tell ya this, if Joe could have pulled off a even a fraction of a career for her like he did the others, I doubt we'd ever have heard any of this...true or not. "Brainwashing" is her her CYA excuse for her appalling and greed filled behavior IMHO.

You. are. ON. FIRE.today. Brooksie!

You betta PREACH that

This is exactly how I've always felt about LaToya's situation. And having met her and spent time with her when she was married to Jack, I find your last paragraph particularly on point.

Aww shucks...I'm just glad my stored up Jacksons info now has some usefulness!

What was she like "offstage"? She was/is a great talk show guest, but I can imagine she was far less "flightly" in real life. La Toya strikes me as someone who's rather driven to get what she wants.

Isn't it ironic that Jack was able to get her a stage when Joe couldn't/wouldn't? People forget that La Toya had a very successful run at the Moulin Rouge which is no mean feat. Her overall career wasn't as "legit" as her bros and sister, but she did have one and it was very lucrative. As some Orger once accurately put it, "Toya stay paid!"

mjscarousal said:

musicjunky318 said:

Gordon was a douche but Latoya's a nutcase with or without him. You can clearly see her elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. She's the "special" one in the family.

All of that is the result of their upbringing... its really sad really... I think if they got real affectionate love from both parents they would have turned out a little better.

I agree that goes for all of them. Maybe MJ and Janet would have actually had some self esteem outside of performing. Add in fame it it doesnt help at all. I love the Jacksons dearly but no matter what, it has always said alot to me about the situation LaToya was in and how Mike and Marlon seperated themselves from the family so much. I also remember reading some tea on Janet somewhere from one of her dancers (janet. era) and the person said that Janet had a whole bunch of f'ed family issues (they didnt say what though). Im sure they all love each other though.

Ottensen said:

brooksie said:

The thing is, if one believes that she was sexually/emotionally/physically abused (as I do)...her later behavior makes (sick) sense. This is all about a family's group dynamics and how they cope w/ such group dysfunction. Each member has his/her role to play. Just like La Toya lived out "Aunt Agatha" w/in her family before she left, she's come back to living a lesser and different form of it upon returning. Given that she now has lots of money and didn't return "home" but to Las Vegas, it's not as intense as before but it's still there IMHO. This is why she's doing this tittle-tattle about her family still....she's not really stopped acting out the spinster aunt role!

The Jacksons are like the DeBarges in that they all have very specific patterns of self-destructive behavior and roles being played, IMHO. When they're away from each other, I suspect they can have some normalcy, but when the family's in the pic on any level.... it all goes back to the roles, more or less.

One thing I've always found interesting about La Toya is that when she "went home" she chose Vegas...where Joe lives, not LA where Katherine is. Given her intense anger at Katherine, which she expressed in her book and elsewhere, it makes some sick sense. La Toya seems to resent her brothers too because they seem to be acting out varying degrees Joe's fuckery. Why else is she talking about Jermaine and Whitney 30 years after?!

Personally I think it's giving Jack Gordon far too much credit when she says she was "brainwashed". That ratty little guy merely took advantage of what was already there..her anger, her truly fucked up family life, her need for attention at any costs, her narcissism, and her greed. I'll tell ya this, if Joe could have pulled off a even a fraction of a career for her like he did the others, I doubt we'd ever have heard any of this...true or not. "Brainwashing" is her her CYA excuse for her appalling and greed filled behavior IMHO.

You. are. ON. FIRE.today. Brooksie!

You betta PREACH that

This is exactly how I've always felt about LaToya's situation. And having met her and spent time with her when she was married to Jack, I find your last paragraph particularly on point.

Yea we need you to go ahead and spill the tea...

brooksie said:

Ottensen said:

...and you guys know that allll those videos are available on youtube. Messy.

Wow...had no idea those shows were posted. Those were the days, eh?!

You know what I always found so interesting? Flo, who would defend the other Jacksons to the teeth, never really tried to shoot La Toya down back then. That actually added to her credibility in some strange way, at least for me.

brooksie said:

Ottensen said:

You. are. ON. FIRE.today. Brooksie!

You betta PREACH that

This is exactly how I've always felt about LaToya's situation. And having met her and spent time with her when she was married to Jack, I find your last paragraph particularly on point.

Aww shucks...I'm just glad my stored up Jacksons info now has some usefulness!

What was she like "offstage"? She was/is a great talk show guest, but I can imagine she was far less "flightly" in real life. La Toya strikes me as someone who's rather driven to get what she wants.

Isn't it ironic that Jack was able to get her a stage when Joe couldn't/wouldn't? People forget that La Toya had a very successful run at the Moulin Rouge which is no mean feat. Her overall career wasn't as "legit" as her bros and sister, but she did have one and it was very lucrative. As some Orger once accurately put it, "Toya stay paid!"

I forgot about that! She did have a decent run. She had lots of good press from it on JET. I think Michael and her were both on the same page for their "successful concert tours" or something to that effect. It's kinda ironic 'Toya got farther with Jack than she did with Joe. So while she never had a gold record of her own, she does get paid. La Toya ironically decided to leave Jack's business after that whole strip joint mess though. I wonder if she still gets residuals from her work with Playboy?

SoulAlive said:

In the mid-80s,I saw a pic of Whitney and Jermaine together....it was in Black Beat magazine.Jermaine was quoted as saying "Whitney is like family......she's like a younger sister to me"

Oh the places we could go w/ this....if we only but dared to!

It's true that Jermaine and Whitney's duet era was presented as a mentor-mentee sitch. She was Arista's new hoped for phenom and he was an established RnB guy who happened to be a Jackson....great combo, right? He was basically used to launch her and she was portrayed was the young model-turned singer. Personally, I never really caught any kind of spark between them and I was only about 8-9 then...not saying it wasn't there, but I didn't see/feel it.

I have no doubt Jermaine tried to holla, but I'm not so sure anything actually happened between them. There was no heat in their duet vibe to me at all...not then, not now. Perhaps he let people believe that something had happened, for his own reasons. It wouldn't be the 1st time something like that happened either!

Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

Aww shucks...I'm just glad my stored up Jacksons info now has some usefulness!

What was she like "offstage"? She was/is a great talk show guest, but I can imagine she was far less "flightly" in real life. La Toya strikes me as someone who's rather driven to get what she wants.

Isn't it ironic that Jack was able to get her a stage when Joe couldn't/wouldn't? People forget that La Toya had a very successful run at the Moulin Rouge which is no mean feat. Her overall career wasn't as "legit" as her bros and sister, but she did have one and it was very lucrative. As some Orger once accurately put it, "Toya stay paid!"

I forgot about that! She did have a decent run. She had lots of good press from it on JET. I think Michael and her were both on the same page for their "successful concert tours" or something to that effect. It's kinda ironic 'Toya got farther with Jack than she did with Joe. So while she never had a gold record of her own, she does get paid. La Toya ironically decided to leave Jack's business after that whole strip joint mess though. I wonder if she still gets residuals from her work with Playboy?

Timmy I think it was YOU that said "Toya stay paid!"!

Actually, outside of MJ and Janet, La Toya's been the overall most successful Jackson's solo act. She worked all over the world (and still does) and made some serious $$$$. I think she saw Jack's scheme as the money pit is was surely to be and bounced quick!

Yeah, she probably still sees some bank from Playboy. Clearly she wanted to be paid and would know to go for the long end bread. Toya's no fool!

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

I forgot about that! She did have a decent run. She had lots of good press from it on JET. I think Michael and her were both on the same page for their "successful concert tours" or something to that effect. It's kinda ironic 'Toya got farther with Jack than she did with Joe. So while she never had a gold record of her own, she does get paid. La Toya ironically decided to leave Jack's business after that whole strip joint mess though. I wonder if she still gets residuals from her work with Playboy?

Timmy I think it was YOU that said "Toya stay paid!"!

Actually, outside of MJ and Janet, La Toya's been the overall most successful Jackson's solo act. She worked all over the world (and still does) and made some serious $$$$. I think she saw Jack's scheme as the money pit is was surely to be and bounced quick!

Yeah, she probably still sees some bank from Playboy. Clearly she wanted to be paid and would know to go for the long end bread. Toya's no fool!

Yeah I probably did say that in a past thread. When I first read that 'Toya was a millionaire, I was like "WHAT?!" But looking back it makes sense why she would be. I think Rebbie is getting that paper stack too... now imagine if she had co-written "Centipede" with Michael! But the Jackson sisters are doing better than some of the brothers and the father. That's telling, ain't it?

LaToya tells her truth, whether it's the actual truth or not. Meaning, I don't think she's a liar, but just usually has an incorrect view of occurrences she's seen within her family. It's like she unintentionally gets everything wrong for some reason.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Totally agree with the bolded part.

Agree also Jack was already part of the Jackson family business.He knew the private secrets & used it to his advantage.But :a Toya was already bitter I believe.

By the way! None of what I'm saying has anything to do with Janet.

Speaking of Janet ...another thing I used to think so odd back then was that Janet and La Toya were almost presented as something like fratenal twins, w/ Janet being the mature one! Considering that La Toya was 10 years older than Janet, it REALLY struck me as odd. If you didn't know any better, you could have easily thought that they were like 2-3 years apart in age rather than 10.

Janet is kinda La Toya's opposite yet balance, methinks. She has always been the one who rarely says much, but just does whatever. La Toya's the mouthy one who's always running off 'bout other folks, but Janet quietly gets freaky in her own style. Both are just as scandalous in their own ways, they just carry it out differently.

Janet probably has more eccentricity than La Toya about 5 more people COMBINED!

WaterInYourBath said:

LaToya tells her truth, whether it's the actual truth or not. Meaning, I don't think she's a liar, but just usually has an incorrect view of occurrences she's seen within her family. It's like she unintentionally gets everything wrong for some reason.

Huh? How would any of us know if she's incorrect or not being that we're not apart of her family? She's been a member of her family for nearly 60 years, so I'd think she has some practice.

The only thing we have is to judge what she said by what comes out later. Based on that, I'd say she understands them very well.

Somebody take LaToya's wig and strangle her with it. Please.

brooksie said:

WaterInYourBath said:

LaToya tells her truth, whether it's the actual truth or not. Meaning, I don't think she's a liar, but just usually has an incorrect view of occurrences she's seen within her family. It's like she unintentionally gets everything wrong for some reason.

Huh? How would any of us know if she's incorrect or not being that we're not apart of her family? She's been a member of her family for nearly 60 years, so I'd think she has some practice.

The only thing we have is to judge what she said by what comes out later. Based on that, I'd say she understands them very well.

I have a few relatives like her. They're the first ones to talk about what they've seen or heard about another family member, and yet the first ones who interpret almost everything wrong. Mainly because they only witness things partially, or was told tales by others and then convoluted the information, but think they know the whole story.

Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

Timmy I think it was YOU that said "Toya stay paid!"!

Actually, outside of MJ and Janet, La Toya's been the overall most successful Jackson's solo act. She worked all over the world (and still does) and made some serious $$$$. I think she saw Jack's scheme as the money pit is was surely to be and bounced quick!

Yeah, she probably still sees some bank from Playboy. Clearly she wanted to be paid and would know to go for the long end bread. Toya's no fool!

Yeah I probably did say that in a past thread. When I first read that 'Toya was a millionaire, I was like "WHAT?!" But looking back it makes sense why she would be. I think Rebbie is getting that paper stack too... now imagine if she had co-written "Centipede" with Michael! But the Jackson sisters are doing better than some of the brothers and the father. That's telling, ain't it?

Try multi millionaire! La Toya got something like $5 mil for her Moulin Rouge show towards the end of its several year run....and this was in the early-mid 90s! Big bread for those days! Not to mention all these commercials and little cheesy projects she's done all over the world for 25 years or so....they may be cheesy but they bring da big chedda!

She and Jermaine are also very well connected to super rich people (remember that pic of La Toya and ones of those super rich BH Housewives?) and those kinds of people will pay an artist absurd amounts of money to privately perform for an evening/weekend/etc. Both of them got it much better than they let on!

I don't know much about Rebbie and Nathaniel Brown, so tell me their scoop.

[Edited 3/8/12 13:27pm]

brooksie said:

She and Jermaine are

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I probably did say that in a past thread. When I first read that 'Toya was a millionaire, I was like "WHAT?!" But looking back it makes sense why she would be. I think Rebbie is getting that paper stack too... now imagine if she had co-written "Centipede" with Michael! But the Jackson sisters are doing better than some of the brothers and the father. That's telling, ain't it?

Try multi millionaire! La Toya got something like $5 mil for her Moulin Rouge show towards the end of its several year run....and this was in the early-mid 90s! Big bread for those days! Not to mention all these commercials and little cheesy projects she's done all over the world for 25 years or so....they may be cheesy but they bring da big chedda!

She and Jermaine are also very well connected to super rich people (remember that pic of La Toya and ones of those super rich BH Housewives?) and those kinds of people will pay an artist absurd amounts of money to privately perform for an evening/weekend/etc. Both of them got it much better than they let on!

I don't know much about Rebbie and Nathaniel Brown, so tell me their scoop.

Well I know Rebbie and Nathaniel have never been in the news about having to put whatever home they're living in California up for sale (I forgot when they moved to California but they didn't stay long in, I believe, Kentucky) or filing for bankruptcy. And I do think she got paid for things she did in the '70s and '80s once she began her own career. And never have to borrow money from her siblings and parents (when the parents had money like that).

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

brooksie said:

Wow...had no idea those shows were posted. Those were the days, eh?!

You know what I always found so interesting? Flo, who would defend the other Jacksons to the teeth, never really tried to shoot La Toya down back then. That actually added to her credibility in some strange way, at least for me.

Yup...everybody tried to blame Jack for her actions, but nobody really came forth to challenge what she actually said. Not even Jermaine!

Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

She and Jermaine are

Try multi millionaire! La Toya got something like $5 mil for her Moulin Rouge show towards the end of its several year run....and this was in the early-mid 90s! Big bread for those days! Not to mention all these commercials and little cheesy projects she's done all over the world for 25 years or so....they may be cheesy but they bring da big chedda!

She and Jermaine are also very well connected to super rich people (remember that pic of La Toya and ones of those super rich BH Housewives?) and those kinds of people will pay an artist absurd amounts of money to privately perform for an evening/weekend/etc. Both of them got it much better than they let on!

I don't know much about Rebbie and Nathaniel Brown, so tell me their scoop.

Well I know Rebbie and Nathaniel have never been in the news about having to put whatever home they're living in California up for sale (I forgot when they moved to California but they didn't stay long in, I believe, Kentucky) or filing for bankruptcy. And I do think she got paid for things she did in the '70s and '80s once she began her own career. And never have to borrow money from her siblings and parents (when the parents had money like that).

I always thought they simply chose to live a relatively modest life. Mr. Brown never seemed inclined to any sort of public life or being seen as living off the Jacksons. I suspect they are OK in terms of money, but more like average folks than Jacksons. Rebbie only did a few things in terms of entertainment and "Centipede" was a surprise hit, but she never did much follow up. I suspect her hubby was a factor there.

BTW, they did stay in KY for several years. I don't know when they moved out to LA, but it was some time long after the remaining family left Indiana. I guestimate the middle 70s, so that would have given them 5+ years in KY.

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

Well I know Rebbie and Nathaniel have never been in the news about having to put whatever home they're living in California up for sale (I forgot when they moved to California but they didn't stay long in, I believe, Kentucky) or filing for bankruptcy. And I do think she got paid for things she did in the '70s and '80s once she began her own career. And never have to borrow money from her siblings and parents (when the parents had money like that).

I always thought they simply chose to live a relatively modest life. Mr. Brown never seemed inclined to any sort of public life or being seen as living off the Jacksons. I suspect they are OK in terms of money, but more like average folks than Jacksons. Rebbie only did a few things in terms of entertainment and "Centipede" was a surprise hit, but she never did much follow up. I suspect her hubby was a factor there.

BTW, they did stay in KY for several years. I don't know when they moved out to LA, but it was some time long after the remaining family left Indiana. I guestimate the middle 70s, so that would have given them 5+ years in KY.

I think their children were born in California so they probably moved there in '71. I wonder if Nathaniel was a businessman of some sort. See, if Rebbie had co-wrote "Centipede", she'd probably be a multi-millionaire lol but I don't think if she was, she would overspend beyond her means. She was not raised like that.

Timmy84 said:

brooksie said:

I always thought they simply chose to live a relatively modest life. Mr. Brown never seemed inclined to any sort of public life or being seen as living off the Jacksons. I suspect they are OK in terms of money, but more like average folks than Jacksons. Rebbie only did a few things in terms of entertainment and "Centipede" was a surprise hit, but she never did much follow up. I suspect her hubby was a factor there.

BTW, they did stay in KY for several years. I don't know when they moved out to LA, but it was some time long after the remaining family left Indiana. I guestimate the middle 70s, so that would have given them 5+ years in KY.

I think their children were born in California so they probably moved there in '71. I wonder if Nathaniel was a businessman of some sort. See, if Rebbie had co-wrote "Centipede", she'd probably be a multi-millionaire lol but I don't think if she was, she would overspend beyond her means. She was not raised like that.

Hasn't one of Rebbie's kids tried to enter the biz? It's the boy IIRC.

brooksie said:

Timmy84 said:

I think their children were born in California so they probably moved there in '71. I wonder if Nathaniel was a businessman of some sort. See, if Rebbie had co-wrote "Centipede", she'd probably be a multi-millionaire lol but I don't think if she was, she would overspend beyond her means. She was not raised like that.

Hasn't one of Rebbie's kids tried to enter the biz? It's the boy IIRC.

Actually all three of them tried. Stacey and Yashii Brown seem like they either stopped or are at least doing music independently. Austin's the one that's trying to get fame right now.