missfee said:

Timmy84 said:

I always thought it was funny how he was so quick to fire group members when the only thing he could sing was backup!!!

So true! He still wants all the attention!

missfee said:

MadamGoodnight said:

that part in the mini series had I feel like Otis already gave his side of the story in the movie, I was tired of him. Dennis was a replacement, but I was surprised that Dennis got that call. dennis was making more sense than Otis, but they needed someone around from the beginning. Too bad David, Paul, Eddie, and Melvin are gone.

When I first saw Otis, I thought, what the hell does he have on? I guess we just got stuck with him.

Dennis made more sense than Otis because Dennis sounded a whole hell of a lot more SINCERE than Otis did. Also you can tell that Dennis really KNEW David on a more personal basis aside from just being groupmates. I don't think (and it's obvious) that Otis never really took the time to get to know Ruffin at all. All the times I've heard Otis talk about David, its almost as if he still has a chip on his shoulder for the guy. I'm sure David didn't care for Otis just as much as Otis didn't care for David. Eddie wasn't too keen on Otis either, especially when he started messing with Paul and threatening to fire him.

Lawd wouldn't it had been something else if Eddie, Melvin and Paul were still alive to give their opinions? I bet it would had been very interesting.

[Edited 3/6/12 10:20am]

Yes, we'd get the whole story for sure if the other members were alive. Otis has had his say, and his view is tainted. We get it. Dennis seemed genuinely hurt, and still disturbed over that call, and the way the death happened.

Richard Street, where was he.

Timmy84 said:

missfee said:

Do you think David maybe wanted or tried to attend Tammi's funeral? I'm pretty sure the family most likely didn't want him there.

Yeah I believe so but the Montgomery family only trusted MARVIN to be there...

Oh yeah that's right. Out of the whole Motown camp they only let Marvin come. I forgot that they said that on Tammi's Unsung epi.

It looked like that was Ollie Woodson singing with them at David's funeral. Ollie is dead and gone now too. I did like Treat Her Like A Lady.

MadamGoodnight said:

It looked like that was Ollie Woodson singing with them at David's funeral. Ollie is dead and gone now too. I did like Treat Her Like A Lady.

According to Tony Turner (lol), when the surviving Tempts got together to do "My Girl", Ollie and Dennis competed for the lead and Dennis out-sung Ollie. Glad we have video to prove that.

Timmy84 said:

MadamGoodnight said:

It looked like that was Ollie Woodson singing with them at David's funeral. Ollie is dead and gone now too. I did like Treat Her Like A Lady.

According to Tony Turner (lol), when the surviving Tempts got together to do "My Girl", Ollie and Dennis competed for the lead and Dennis out-sung Ollie. Glad we have video to prove that.

There was always some drama with this group!

Timmy84 said:

missfee said:

I always thought it was funny how he was so quick to fire group members when the only thing he could sing was backup!!!

LOL I know right?

He's singing on this tune

HuMpThAnG said:

Timmy84 said:

LOL I know right?

He's singing on this tune

Thanks, Hump,I was just coming in here to thwart some of the Otis hate. Dude COULD sing and DID song on Temps songs (just not any of their hits). As for as the Temps mini-series/ movie good lord it's Hollywood! When is any biopic 100 accurate? It has to be (1) editted the fuck down and (2) is always an interpretation of events. It wasn't a documentary, for Lion-o's sake, and even if it was every small detail isn't worth mentioning.

Adisa said:

HuMpThAnG said:

He's singing on this tune

Thanks, Hump,I was just coming in here to thwart some of the Otis hate. Dude COULD sing and DID song on Temps songs (just not any of their hits). As for as the Temps mini-series/ movie good lord it's Hollywood! When is any biopic 100 accurate? It has to be (1) editted the fuck down and (2) is always an interpretation of events. It wasn't a documentary, for Lion-o's sake, and even if it was every small detail isn't worth mentioning.

Well David's family didn't seem to look at it that way.

Adisa said:

HuMpThAnG said:

He's singing on this tune

Thanks, Hump,I was just coming in here to thwart some of the Otis hate. Dude COULD sing and DID song on Temps songs (just not any of their hits). As for as the Temps mini-series/ movie good lord it's Hollywood! When is any biopic 100 accurate? It has to be (1) editted the fuck down and (2) is always an interpretation of events. It wasn't a documentary, for Lion-o's sake, and even if it was every small detail isn't worth mentioning.

Wow only one song though?

missfee said:

Adisa said:

Thanks, Hump,I was just coming in here to thwart some of the Otis hate. Dude COULD sing and DID song on Temps songs (just not any of their hits). As for as the Temps mini-series/ movie good lord it's Hollywood! When is any biopic 100 accurate? It has to be (1) editted the fuck down and (2) is always an interpretation of events. It wasn't a documentary, for Lion-o's sake, and even if it was every small detail isn't worth mentioning.

Well David's family didn't seem to look at it that way.

Neither did the families of Eddie, Melvin or Paul...

missfee said:

Adisa said:

Thanks, Hump,I was just coming in here to thwart some of the Otis hate. Dude COULD sing and DID song on Temps songs (just not any of their hits). As for as the Temps mini-series/ movie good lord it's Hollywood! When is any biopic 100 accurate? It has to be (1) editted the fuck down and (2) is always an interpretation of events. It wasn't a documentary, for Lion-o's sake, and even if it was every small detail isn't worth mentioning.

Wow only one song though?

He sang on more than one song. He was not the lead singer.

Timmy84 said:

missfee said:

Well David's family didn't seem to look at it that way.

Neither did the families of Eddie, Melvin or Paul...

So? It's a movie. Every detail can't and won't be one hundred.

Adisa said:

Timmy84 said:

Neither did the families of Eddie, Melvin or Paul...

So? It's a movie. Every detail can't and won't be one hundred.

Well go and tell the families that then. They were the ones trying to sue over it not any of us here.

[Edited 3/6/12 17:09pm]

Adisa said:

missfee said:

Wow only one song though?

He sang on more than one song. He was not the lead singer.

Umm yeah we already know that.

....So back to the discussion at hand, did anyone ever find out if David, Jr. actually sings too?

[Edited 3/6/12 17:10pm]

missfee said:

Adisa said:

So? It's a movie. Every detail can't and won't be one hundred.

Well go and tell the families that then. They were the ones trying to sue over it not any of us here.

[Edited 3/6/12 17:09pm]

I think they learned that.

It was a good episode. Dude had a lot of issues that unfortunately became

his undoing. Hope one on Eddie Kendricks is lurking soon. David was very talented

but as his star got bigger drugs, arrogance, and crabs in a barrel(freinds) bought him down.

Otis may have become a bit of a control freak (after all he was the rock of the group) later

on during their heyday but he and the group had no choice but to kick Mr. Ruffin out the

group.

missfee said:

....So back to the discussion at hand, did anyone ever find out if David, Jr. actually sings too?

[Edited 3/6/12 17:10pm]

I think so. I could've sworn several years ago I was on a Tempts fan site and they mentioned that he had released an album online... I didn't buy it or check it out so I don't know how good he is.

phunkdaddy said:

It was a good episode. Dude had a lot of issues that unfortunately became

his undoing. Hope one on Eddie Kendricks is lurking soon. David was very talented

but as his star got bigger drugs, arrogance, and crabs in a barrel(freinds) bought him down.

Otis may have become a bit of a control freak (after all he was the rock of the group) later

on during their heyday but he and the group had no choice but to kick Mr. Ruffin out the

group.

I agree. I love one on Eddie. He was another one who got screwed by the powers that were Motown...

Timmy84 said:

phunkdaddy said:

It was a good episode. Dude had a lot of issues that unfortunately became

his undoing. Hope one on Eddie Kendricks is lurking soon. David was very talented

but as his star got bigger drugs, arrogance, and crabs in a barrel(freinds) bought him down.

Otis may have become a bit of a control freak (after all he was the rock of the group) later

on during their heyday but he and the group had no choice but to kick Mr. Ruffin out the

group.

I agree. I love one on Eddie. He was another one who got screwed by the powers that were Motown...

"The family" was the devil they were.

You know I missed it... not my fault Comcast. When do the reair this... I'll try again.

Timmy84 said:

phunkdaddy said:

It was a good episode. Dude had a lot of issues that unfortunately became

his undoing. Hope one on Eddie Kendricks is lurking soon. David was very talented

but as his star got bigger drugs, arrogance, and crabs in a barrel(freinds) bought him down.

Otis may have become a bit of a control freak (after all he was the rock of the group) later

on during their heyday but he and the group had no choice but to kick Mr. Ruffin out the

group.

I agree. I love one on Eddie. He was another one who got screwed by the powers that were Motown...

Mainly old Berry G. himself

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

I agree. I love one on Eddie. He was another one who got screwed by the powers that were Motown...

"The family" was the devil they were.

You know I missed it... not my fault Comcast. When do the reair this... I'll try again.

All I know is they reair it every Monday whenever a new "Unsung" is about to come on. So try checking it next Monday at 9.

But yeah with "family" like that, who needs enemies?

HuMpThAnG said:

Timmy84 said:

I agree. I love one on Eddie. He was another one who got screwed by the powers that were Motown...

Mainly old Berry G. himself

He screwed over so many careers it don't make much sense! As much as he helped to build them, he also screwed them over.

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

I agree. I love one on Eddie. He was another one who got screwed by the powers that were Motown...

"The family" was the devil they were.

You know I missed it... not my fault Comcast. When do the reair this... I'll try again.

It's online now

http://tvone.tv/unsung-vi...wYWWQD50_L

HuMpThAnG said:

TD3 said:

"The family" was the devil they were.

You know I missed it... not my fault Comcast. When do the reair this... I'll try again.

It's online now

http://tvone.tv/unsung-vi...wYWWQD50_L

thank ya.

Timmy84 said:

TD3 said:

"The family" was the devil they were.

You know I missed it... not my fault Comcast. When do the reair this... I'll try again.

All I know is they reair it every Monday whenever a new "Unsung" is about to come on. So try checking it next Monday at 9.

But yeah with "family" like that, who needs enemies?

It's usually back on either Saturday or Sunday.

This is still the best line-up ever

Those cats had great harmony together

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God bless em' all, including Otis

I liked the episode but to do an Unsung on David Ruffin deserves more than one hour. I cant believe he came from a town called 'WhyNot, Mississippi'.

Why didnt they interview his brother Jimmy Ruffin? Who certainly could have gave more insight in David's upbringing.

What about Berry Gordy? or Dean Martin's daughter Barbara? I know Berry Gordy turned TvOne downed.

Why omit Michael Jackson paid for his funeral?

Did he lieave a will was there an estate? I know dumb question

Why come there hasnt been a thread about who was the best lead Temptations singer Dennis Edwards or David Ruffin?

I still dont believe he died in the hospital I believe he died in a crackhouse and his body was dumped in front of the hospital.

David Ruffin Jr. -->>>HOT