mjscarousal said:

dag said:

What is that? And isn't Glenda a woman? Are those the phone conversations?

Those are the Glenda conversations...

But Glenda is a woman, isn't she? So why does it say "his children"?

dag said:

mjscarousal said:

Those are the Glenda conversations...

But Glenda is a woman, isn't she? So why does it say "his children"?

Glenda is a woman. Im not sure why the transcript says children...The phone conversation is between Michael and Glenda.

Message from the Estate:

Great News! Michael Jackson The IMMORTAL World Tour is the #1 tour in America and has been since the show’s US premiere in Las Vegas last December, according to Pollstar magazine, the concert tour industry’s leading trade publication. The show is breaking box office records: Over the weekend in Miami, IMMORTAL was sold out three nights in a row and set a new record as the top grossing 3-day run in the history of the American Airlines Arena. Fans around the country have been tremendously supportive, and what’s more, the show’s incredible musical performances, choreography and visuals have drawn new fans to Michael’s music and legacy. It’s the biggest, most successful tour in the country! This is just what Michael would have wanted and deserves. Michael has always been and will always be the Biggest Star in the World thanks to his fans!

I heard from Jay that the Glenda conversations were proved to be fraudulent. The person behind them confessed and he/she was sued.

mookie said:

Message from the Estate:

Great News! Michael Jackson The IMMORTAL World Tour is the #1 tour in America and has been since the show’s US premiere in Las Vegas last December, according to Pollstar magazine, the concert tour industry’s leading trade publication. The show is breaking box office records: Over the weekend in Miami, IMMORTAL was sold out three nights in a row and set a new record as the top grossing 3-day run in the history of the American Airlines Arena. Fans around the country have been tremendously supportive, and what’s more, the show’s incredible musical performances, choreography and visuals have drawn new fans to Michael’s music and legacy. It’s the biggest, most successful tour in the country! This is just what Michael would have wanted and deserves. Michael has always been and will always be the Biggest Star in the World thanks to his fans!

It's a great show. I saw it opening night in Monteal with the Jackson family literally only 2 rows behind me. I plan on seeing it multiple times. This was something the Estate got right.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

I heard from Jay that the Glenda conversations were proved to be fraudulent. The person behind them confessed and he/she was sued.

Interesting...

Lawyer: Jackson theft accused will prove innocence

LONDON (AP) — Two Michael Jackson fans accused of stealing unreleased music by the late King of Pop from Sony's computers are confident they can prove their innocence in court, their lawyer said Wednesday.

Solicitor Karen Todner said James Marks and Jamie McCormick "are eager to point out to Michael Jackson's fans and family that they would never do anything to harm the legacy that is Michael Jackson's music."

"As Michael Jackson has said," she added, "'Lies run sprints but the truth runs marathons.'"

The two British men were arrested last year after Sony Music Entertainment noticed a breach of its systems.

The entertainment company has a seven-year deal, worth up to $250 million, to sell unreleased recordings by Jackson, who died in 2009 at the age of 50.

Sony says no customer data were compromised in the attack on the company's internal music-sharing system.

Marks, 26, and McCormick, 25, pleaded not guilty last week at Leicester Crown Court in central England to computer misuse and copyright offenses. They were freed on bail and are due to stand trial in January.

The case is not believed to be linked to Anonymous or Lulz Security, loose-knit hackers' collectives, broadly sympathetic to the WikiLeaks' secret-spilling site, who have targeted government and corporate websites around the world.

Last year, hackers targeted Sony Playstation and Sony Online Entertainment networks, compromising personal information, email addresses and the security of millions of user accounts. At the time, Lulz Security claimed responsibility for the hack.

On Tuesday, the FBI announced that five alleged Lulz Security members had been arrested in the U.S., Britain and Ireland after one of the group's leading hackers turned informant.

http://news.yahoo.com/law...39131.html

mjscarousal said:

dag said:

But Glenda is a woman, isn't she? So why does it say "his children"?

Glenda is a woman. Im not sure why the transcript says children...The phone conversation is between Michael and Glenda.

The telephonic conversations are between michael and glenda, michael and the children of glenda, and of MJ with the husband of glenda... They are many conversations..

She is Glenda Stein with MJ

Date: June 1992, rehearsals for the Dangerous World Tour

MJ: Yeah
G: I think the strangest conversation was the one that I witnessed between you and La Toya.
MJ: Oh god.
G: When, oh you (laughs), when she was being um… When she was being um, escorted… I guess she was at the condo when she was being escorted out. Do you remember that one?
MJ: No.
G: Don’t you remember?
MJ: Well, refresh my memory.
G: I think (i) I think it was when you were in Africa. Then Janet came on the phone, and I don’t know what she said, or why she got so upset with La Toya. Oh, I think, oh I know what it was, ‘cuz she said she was gonna tell Bill.
MJ: Oh, yeah and Janet was on the phone and you were on the phone and….
G: Yeah, remember that? That was…ugh…I couldn’t believe I was sitting there witnessing this, it was terrible, I felt so bad I thought I should hang up but I didn’t.
MJ: (Laughing)
G: Alright, so alright, you wanted to ask me something (i) let’s get this out of the way?
MJ: I wanna what?
G: You wanted to ask me something?
MJ: Oh, no I didn’t wanna ask you something, I just wanted to let you know.
G: Oh, you just going to let me know. So, okay what did she do, she came to your office?
MJ: Yeah, and I was in the back office…
G: So she knows where your office is?
MJ: Of course she always knows where all the offices are. . .
G: Oh ok…
MJ: Anyway, I did what I said I was gunna do…
G: You put a towel over your head? Did you find a towel?
MJ: Yeah a white towel…
G: Laughs..and a hat?
MJ: Excuse me?
G: And a hat? That must have been a sight..
MJ: Yeah.. you know the hat that I always wear…
G: And then what happened? You went outside and saw her and what?
MJ: Yeah, I had to leave the office because I had a rehearsal to go to.. and so she….talked to me…
G: Well, what did she say?
MJ: She talked to me, said you’ve been avoiding me?(of course not) and about drawing conclusions .. and stuff and I said well.. and then we left because we had a rehearsal and stuff… she’s a, you know, she’s a coordinator and stuff… and she does a lot of stuff with the band
G: She models too?
MJ: She does all kinds of things. So we had a rehearsal and of course she was gonna be there.. and um.. so we talked during the break because the band was still, they were still getting things together , the band members and the dancers and stuff…my dancers were going to be working with me…
G: Is she going on tour with you?
MJ: No… Not anymore………. but um… uh, we had lunch together, we did lunch. She told me she goes like, Michael, why can I never get through to you and I said.. I well I don’t wanna call you because I said you know (CUT in audio) done and spend some time with you and stuff. And So… We were.. talking the situation that had happened…and she said.. so she goes I love you Michael and I’ll do whatever it takes and all that, right? and um, so I had to be honest with her..and she told me..one of the things that she told me today was, she goes like.. well I’d like to spend some time with you before you leave because of what happened you know..
G: Is that what she told you?
MJ: No she knew before that…that.. because I was kinda interested in her.. and I know I can trust this girl, like I told you a long time ago right? I said I know I can trust her, I don’t have any bad feelings I told you that…
G: Michael?
MJ: Huh?
G: Did you ever tell Kathy?…
MJ: No I haven’t…please… believe me now…
G: Eh, Alright.. it just blows me away because you guys have known each other for such a long time and she’s so devoted to you..
MJ: Well you know its not like I tell everyone that I’ve known for a long time…Kathy and I have not spoken and stuff since all that stuff with my brothers was going on I will tell her eventually… you know.. when I feel like talking… I just don’t want to now. I mean I know a lot of people.. .and..I don’t think (i) not that Kathy would do anything to betray me…but anyway.. when she was talking to me, she’s like, she goes..well I know your situation, I had a towel on my head and I got a surgical mask … you know… I could never see you again.. or something should happen and I’m really worried about that and I just wanna be with you..you know, one to one.. without the gang being around..its just its important to me.. to be with you I don’t care. I really want to spend time with you…
G: Go on!
MJ: Ya know that’s what she said…. like it doesn’t matter, no matter what ya know? she told me that she’s afraid she’s going to lose me as a friend or whatever, she’s afraid she’s not going to see me
G: But she must care for you.
MJ: Yeah, I know she does.
G: So what are you gonna do?
MJ: Well.. I’m gonna, I’m gonna be with her…hold on let me just.. (i)
G: Okay
MJ: And she said well I want whats best for you! I said dammit! let me make my own mistakes!If it’s a mistake fine, if its not fine, but just…
G: How come people are so protective of you, Michael? You know you have a lot of people who really love you and want whats best for you, you’re not alone.
MJ: It doesn’t matter, I make my own choices and my own decisions.
G: Tell me something, you know what? You told me before that you’re the loneliest person
MJ: I am!
G: Then how can you be that way when there are so many people…
MJ: Because I don’t love those people like that! I want to be with someone…I want to know what a relationship is all about before I die, can’t you understand that girl? I never had… I mean I’ve been with Tate… I’ve been, well not with… I been with Tate. I thought I was with Diana… that was just in my own mind.
G: You were a little boy.
MJ: I know, I have never had a real relationship, my brothers have been married… My brothers have had girlfriends I really haven’t had that….
G: How long did it take you to get over Diana?
MJ: Years… A hell of a long time. I just wanna know what it’s like, girl, to have a real relationship with someone who doesn’t want me for me. That I don’t, I don’t have to look over my shoulder all the time…
G: That doesn’t have an ulterior motive..?
MJ: Yeah, that doesn’t question me.. I mean..(i) I don’t… and, and.. like La Toya said in her book.. she said, either I am going to have to find somebody who doesn’t even know who the heck I am…
G: (i)
MJ: Orrr..oorr deal with somebody whose career is equally as important, or equally like mine.
G: Well.. a nix to both of those.
MJ: What am I gonna do… I don’t want to die without knowing about… having a real relationship with a women or being involved… I don’t../ I was involved but we never did anything… we never really had sex…
G: But that was your decision, that wasn’t her’s I mean
MJ: But.. ya.. but girl, girlfriend had my nose wide open… okay, you could drive a truck through my nose.
G: Laughs…That is the craziest expression. How did they come up with that… I am just wondering who thought of it.. I don’t understand how your nose can be wide open
MJ: I don’t know
G: But it had to come from somewhere and I just wanted to the people who made it up.
G: It’s the craziest expression I have ever heard
MJ: It’s a black thing
G: ( Laughing) Black thing? What is it with your nose? I can’t understand how your nose can be wide open?
MJ: I don’t know..(whispers–It’s just, it’s personal)
G: I mean it had to come from somewhere. Somebody had to have made it up and I was wondering what they were thinking when they made it up?
MJ: It’s a black secret
G: OK Laughing
MJ: So I loved her so much..GOD
G: So was that the first time..
MJ: No, no (whispers) (it was in her bedroom?)
G: Where did Tatum and that..what was that other girls…
MJ: Tate..I dealt with Tate when I was a little bit younger..She came up to me in a club..we were in a club..(she came up to me?) and she put her hand on mind and I couldn’t believe it (break in tape){This is obvious the poster of these audios was throwing us off. They skip from talking about Tatum O’Neal to this woman)…Glenda laughing..Now they are talking about someone else)
MJ: …anything. I would give her money, I would give her jewelry, I would give her a house, a car, whatever.. I was never good enough. It was like…ya know..
G: Well she wanted all of you Michael..she wanted a relationship
MJ: She knew how I was from the beginning..it wasn’t like she didn’t
G: Well she was probably hoping then that it would change
MJ: But, not until I got married
G: Well I know that..and I’m sure that she loved you..and when you have been with somebody for that many years
MJ: I loved her so much..I didn’t want to see that..I did not want to see that.and I knew she was fooling around..I know girl..I know it for a FACT
G: Don’t you think that attracted you to the fact that she was such a strong person and she stood up for you against your dad and she was always there..wasn’t that a lot of the attraction?
MJ: Yeah
G Because she’s older than you huh?
MJ: well yeah…
G: (beep sound) That you were drawn to that.
MJ: Yeah I was
G: (I)
MJ: And I was so in love and I had my nose wide open and I didn’t want to believe what was really going on. (Tape cut)..It didn’t matter..she was (Tape cut) (I), but, that’s another story. (I) And it was a good thing that it was finally over.
G: You don’t have any regrets?
MJ: No, uh uh, I don’t regret that I didn’t sleep with her. I’m glad I didn’t. (I)….
G: Yeah, that’s a long story.
MJ: I didn’t. I wish it changed but I haven’t experienced it before, ever.. having a relationship like that before, I never …Being in a normal…having a relationship with someone (I) I never had that.
G: Well, I think everybody wants too…
MJ: But, I HAVEN’T
G: Okay
MJ: And that’s what I want. I know I’m not going to be here very long or whatever.
G: I hope it will be years..
MJ: What?
G: How long do you think you will be here?
MJ: You can’t ask me, I don’t know, what kind of question is that I don’t know
G: You don’t have any ideas?
MJ: I don’t know…I mean, you could come up with all kind of statistics and facts and die!
G: But you said you think (I) Now? (I)
MJ: Well you know, like Melissa told me today..and she was right… she said like I want to see you I want to spend time with you before you leave.. I don’t care.. what the circumstances are, because she knows my situation now…. and shes like I don’t care whatever you want.. but I dont know if I will ever see you again and stuff.. she was honest enough, I mean, she told me..
G: She sounds very good.
MJ: It doesn’t matter with her no matter what, ya know!
G: She sounds very nice. She sounds very good.
MJ: I don’t want to die not having like, a relationship like everybody else around me have had… I don’t want to die.
G: I know, I think that to accept you
MJ: For someone to accept me, and I’ve never experienced that, for someone to accept me totally no matter what.
G: That’s hard to find Michael.
MJ: I don’t have time to wait.
G: You’re pushing 34 my dear. Laughing
MJ: Yeah and I have never had that. I’ve never had that kind of relationship. Like I’m alone (Tape cut). Everyone else I know have had it..But, I never have.
G: Well, I guess it’s time you get it.
MJ: I know it is. (Tape Cut)….I trusted her. Even though we had fallen in love (even though we had a little falling out?). I ruin my own relationships. Agree?
G: You do!
MJ: Oh, I won’t do that. I don’t know how I’m gonna get it (I)
G: You sabotage your own relationships.
MJ: Well, I won’t do it.
(Tape cut)
G: Because it sounds like she loved you
MJ: Yeah (I) What?
G: That will be very sad!
(tape cut)
MJ: don’t know what I’m gonna do
(tape cut)
G: I think it is important that you hold on to everything that you hold dear.
MJ: What?
G: I think that it is important that you hold on to everything that you hold dear
MJ: (Tape cut) (I hold on to a lot of things?)
G: (I)everything that you hold dear?
MJ: You know what I want
G: Isn’t that right?
MJ: Yeah I do and it hurts me (I) since people and situations and stuff (tape cut) But, I’m sure, I’m sure about it
G: You have a lot of people that love you very much…you do…
MJ: I have a lot of people that I don’t know what’s going on
G: About you? And you don’t want them to, But you have to hold those people dear, don’t let them go, don’t hold them, open doors.
MJ: But at least I have with some of my brothers (I) involved (trust them?)….
G: That’s good..That’s very good. Because I know you’ve been through a lot(I) Do you figure you’ll be able to do that?

Conversation between Michael and Glenda’s son Justin Stein

Date: approximately in June/July 1992 then in the fall Septemberish 1992

J: Hi
MJ: How you doing Justin?
J: Good
MJ: So what’s up?
J: Nothing
MJ: you wanted to talk to me about something
J: Uh huh
MJ: About what?
J: I don’t know
MJ: You don’t know?
J: Uh huh
MJ: What’s the matter?
J: Nothing
MJ: So what have you been up too?
J: Reading a lot
MJ: Oh yeah. What cha reading?
J: UM. One book is called “School’s Out” and one of them is “??Westside?? School” and then one I was reading um, a little while ago was um, is called “Maggie Maggie”
MJ: Muggie Muggie? (I think he misunderstood him)
J: Uh huh
MJ: Which one is your favorite?
J: um, Schools Out
MJ: And your school’s out, right?
J: Huh
MJ: Your school’s out?
J: Yeah
MJ: So what are you doing this summer?
J: (I) music and going on camps
MJ: That will be fun, huh?
J: Yeah. Today I went to Kids Space Museum
MJ: Huh?
J: Kids Space
MJ: Yeah?
J: Uh huh. Then we did dress up and then we had like a beach and I had my… a bunch of shells in cases and two chairs and then it had a whole bunch of sand on the ground and buckets and shovels and on the wall it was painted like water and fish in the water and a bottle floating in the water and at the bottom there is like a big treasure chest
MJ: (I)
J: Yeah, um they had like ocean noises. I had fun..I went to the beach. Newport (I) the other day.
MJ: Yeah?
J: Yeah. And one guy…he was drunk..and he went out in the water
MJ: Yeah?
J: and um, the lifeguard had to go out there and get him..and he was like walking the wrong way and stuff
MJ: He was what?
J: Like..when she was telling him to go over here, he was walking the other way.
MJ: Oh really? Because he was drunk?
J: Yeah, and there was a great big huge whale out there. It was making real big water..(I) .touch and so um…he like went high..one of the big whales..on top of the water
MJ: (I) Water
J: And my mom made a tape for me
MJ: Yeah?
J: of Janet and…Have you seen the new tape out Madonna made?
MJ: Yeah
J: About “This Used To Be My Playground”
MJ: Yeah
J: She made that one and she got the tape of it so she put on the song “This used to be my playground”
MJ: Yeah
J: The one that Madonna sings, she put that on it… And she put on um Prince, that one Money Don’t Matter 2 Night and (I?) and Fine Young Cannibals
MJ: Oh Yeah?
J: “She Drives Me Crazy”
MJ: How’s your friend… that little girl I talked to?
J: Oh Jill? She’s good…

(Break in Tape – The transcript above took place when school was out in the summer and the one below, Justin is in school.)

J: I have a bad sunburn on my face.
MJ: Really?
J: Yeah. At school the teacher had to put that um like gel on my back
MJ: Uh huh
J: Aloe Vera
MJ: Aloe Vera?
J: Yeah..One of the teachers at our school…he got like blisters from the sunburn on his back
MJ: Ewww
J: and he’s allergic to Aloe Vera.
MJ: really?
J: Yeah, so he can’t put it on. He had gel. Another kid..he had like a sunburn it was making his back peel and Edward peeled off pieces of his skin because it waslike peeling off..And then there was another teacher. She had cancer when she was 11 yrs old and she had it in her leg..so she lost one of her legs..and now it’s like a big pole and it has like a cushion all around it and her foot is made of rubber.
MJ: Yeah?
J: and this is funny….she said this is funny..but, she would scare people by letting cars run over her foot
MJ: Laughing..That’s funny..Laughing
J: And we would all go “Theres a car running over her foot!“ (I) it was funny
MJ: Laughing
J: and she um she like whenever we were playing a game of cards..I would stick my nails in her leg.
MJ: Yeah
J: And she would just keep on playing. She wouldn’t even notice it. Well it was wierd.
(Somebody said “Hello”…I don’t know who that was) (another kid)(Probably grabbed the kids phone)
MJ: Yeah, I have a friend in (I)he has a wooden leg.
J: He does? Wooden?
MJ: Yeah, his name is Mike
J: Mike?
MJ: Yeah, he’s got a wooden leg. He got his leg…what happened was he got his leg shot off
J: Shot off?
MJ: Yeah
J: Oh you just reminded me of the friend at school..his dad was a firefighter and he like in that ..you know that fire thingie that happened? That is happening..Yeah, in LA (He’s talking about the Rodney King Riots in April 29th 1992, LA)
MJ: What fire?
J: It was like a big fire and people were getting shot and stuff
MJ: Yeah, when was this?
J: and his father got shot
MJ: When was this?
J: This um..the Rodney King Thing happened
MJ: Oh, when they were having all
J: Like those things
MJ: The riots?
J: Yeah, the riots
MJ: Yeah?
J: Um..His father was in it and he got shot and he’s ok.
MJ: Yeah that’s good
(CUT TAPE)
MJ: I have a dog..and I have its….its a doberman..a guard dog. (I) big
J: He’s big? Bigger than Sasha?
MJ: Oh yeah, Much bigger
MJ: He’s a Doberman…You know what a Doberman Pincher looks like?
J: No
MJ: Oh ..They’re beautiful
J: Yeah? Real Beautiful?
MJ: Yeah..He’s black and tan..He’s got a black face and tan eyebrows and his Muzzle’s tan and he’s got a lttle tail…Well see…Dobermans have these long tails, but people cut them off and make them short. So he’s got a little stubby tail. It’s maybe 2 inches long.
J: Does it.. is it hurting when they cut off his tail
MJ: Does it what?
J: Hurt?
MJ: No, it doesn’t….HOLD ON PLEASE (talking to someone in background)
J: Okay
(faint talking in background..then Michael comes back)
MJ: Yeah they cut their tales off and their ears also
J: They cut off their ears too? (acts real upset)
MJ: Well see..You know..Remember my dog I brought over there? She’s too little..
J: She’s way to little
MJ: Yeah and they teach the Doberman Pinchers to be mean and aggressive to attack
J: Is yours mean?
MJ: Yeah, the one I have here. He’s real mean. He’s a Guard Dog. He protects me.
J: If I pet him, would he bite me?
MJ: Well, he’s okay around children. You see…if you give him a command (I) and you give him ??TONTO?? (the dog’s name??) a command you say ATTACK, then he’ll attack somebody
J: If a child did that?
MJ: What
J: Even if a child does that?
MJ: If..Ok..Like He has a trainer ??TONTO?? has a trainer. If a trainer calls for ??TONTO?? to attack, he would attack whoever he had to attack. Even a child.
J: Did you hear about the first time when I came visiting..I walked in and SASHA looked at my face and she liked… she liked looked at me in a weird way
MJ: Yeah
J: And she like opened her mouth like she was going to bite me and she came closer and started (I). I felt like (I) face
MJ: You felt What?
J: It looked like she was going to bite me. But she just came up, and it felt like she was going to bite me, but I just felt like um (I) in my face. It was weird.
MJ: Yeah
J: (I)
MJ: But she didn’t bite you, did she?
J: I don’t know (I) she cleaned up my face
MJ: Laughing..It bothers me
J: (I)
MJ: What?
J: Sasha’s not real mean
MJ: Well she can be..You know my other dog I have “Shadow”?..Shadow is not mean at all..You could do any…..If I told Shadow, if I said Shadow ATTACK..Shadow would never attack.
J: You should never make shadow be a guard dog
MJ: Well Shadow can’t be a guard dog…because she..it’s not in her blood. Shadow would never attack. Sasha would attack, because Sasha is a guard dog.
J: Did I tell you about that little girl that teaches Sunday School with her mom?
MJ: What’s her name?
J: Kathy…Katcherina?? ????
MJ: Serena?
J: Katcherina
MJ: Katcherina??
J: Yeah. She’s a little girl in our Sunday class..Sunday School Class..Where she takes little toddler kids and she’s from Germany.

claudiax said:

MJ: You’re not gonna outlive me.

CrabalockerFishwife said:

dollarsandcheese said:

Thats basically what I was saying yep. And like I said the sooner we hear those cascio tracks the more it reduces the chance it will end up on a future MJ album............win win

"Hold My Hand" ended up on MICHAEL and it was the first single.. so I don't think leaks will keep those songs from being released.. hopefully common sense will tell them not to release something they know most of MJs fans don't want.

but hold my hand is michael's voice...if cascio tracks leak and fans complain about the fakeness of it they might not end up on a future album

^^ Weren't all those glenda calls proven to be fakes????

I have never heard anything about the Glenda tapes being proved to be fake. I honestly dont see why anyone would want to impersonate Michael having a phone conversation talking about...random stuff. Having listened to the tapes and read the transcripts, I believe the tapes are authentic, not just because it sounds like Michael, but because of the various topics that are discussed during the convos (i.e. family life, love life, touring, etc). If this were someone else impersonating MJ, you would think they would've dropped some kind of scandalous bombshell at some point during the conversation to make them more sensational. But there were no earth shattering bombshells or revelations or any kind of scandalous talk during these conversations.

Did anyone even make any money from these convos? Since they are all over the internet and can be downloaded for free, I dont see how anyone could have tried to cash in on these convos, unless maybe the guy who originally had them in his possession was able to make a few bucks off of them??

NaughtyKitty said:

I have never heard anything about the Glenda tapes being proved to be fake. I honestly dont see why anyone would want to impersonate Michael having a phone conversation talking about...random stuff. Having listened to the tapes and read the transcripts, I believe the tapes are authentic, not just because it sounds like Michael, but because of the various topics that are discussed during the convos (i.e. family life, love life, touring, etc). If this were someone else impersonating MJ, you would think they would've dropped some kind of scandalous bombshell at some point during the conversation to make them more sensational. But there were no earth shattering bombshells or revelations or any kind of scandalous talk during these conversations.

Did anyone even make any money from these convos? Since they are all over the internet and can be downloaded for free, I dont see how anyone could have tried to cash in on these convos, unless maybe the guy who originally had them in his possession was able to make a few bucks off of them??

I agree.

NaughtyKitty said:

I have never heard anything about the Glenda tapes being proved to be fake. I honestly dont see why anyone would want to impersonate Michael having a phone conversation talking about...random stuff. Having listened to the tapes and read the transcripts, I believe the tapes are authentic, not just because it sounds like Michael, but because of the various topics that are discussed during the convos (i.e. family life, love life, touring, etc). If this were someone else impersonating MJ, you would think they would've dropped some kind of scandalous bombshell at some point during the conversation to make them more sensational. But there were no earth shattering bombshells or revelations or any kind of scandalous talk during these conversations.

Did anyone even make any money from these convos? Since they are all over the internet and can be downloaded for free, I dont see how anyone could have tried to cash in on these convos, unless maybe the guy who originally had them in his possession was able to make a few bucks off of them??

Right. I don't believe it's fake. No one can imitate Michael that good no how.

mjforever said:

How wonderful to hear his laugh again. Thanks for posting.

Swa said:

^^ Weren't all those glenda calls proven to be fakes????

THAT'S WHAT I SAID!

NaughtyKitty said:

Did anyone even make any money from these convos? Since they are all over the internet and can be downloaded for free, I dont see how anyone could have tried to cash in on these convos, unless maybe the guy who originally had them in his possession was able to make a few bucks off of them??

These are the audio and transcripts made of tape recordings of Michael Jackson speaking on the telephone to the Stein family from 1990-1992. Apparently Michael had been contacted by the son Damion Stein sometime around 1984 when he was a kid and Michael had written a message back to the Stein family and a friendship had developed from there. Damion claims that Michael’s phone calls to his family were taped out of jealousy, because Michael had been spending a lot of time speaking to his mother, Glenda, at all hours of the day, and her husband Sam was becoming suspicious they might be having an affair. The tapes were sold in 2005 to Hansnews.com, the TMZ of their day, seemingly by Damion Stein. It is not known whether Michael knew about the recordings, but he has never denied them and by all accounts they seem authentic.

The Stein family are: Sam and Glenda Stein, their sons Damion and Justin and daughter Megan.

Damion gave an interview in 2005 speaking about these conversations:

Damion: He adopted my family.

We opened up our family to him and he was kind of another member of the family. He got to experience what a family atmosphere was about. And I think that that isn’t something that he ever had himself.

Narrator: One of the most famous men in the world was now regularly driving out to Orange County to stay in Damion’s spare room.

Narrator: The Michael Jackson show got even more demanding, when the star began calling Damion’s mother day and night, to off load about his traumatic childhood.

Damion: He needed someone to confide in.

My dad would be waiting for my mom in bed, for her to to come to bed, and she would never come. She would be speaking to him in depth on the phone, late hours in the night.

Narrator: When Michael started calling three or four times a day, Damion’s father because suspicious and started to tape his telephone conversations.

It was extraordinary and flattering that a star like Michael would choose an ordinary family to confide his secrets to. But then Jackson suddenly stopped ringing.

Damion: And so we just waited on the phone call and it just never came. It was difficult to accept that.

Narrator: One minute Damion and his family were Michael’s best friends, the next they were sidelined.

In this page it is so all the conversations with the transcriptions and they can unload the audios, in addition there are photos of this family with Michael..

http://rhythmofthetide.com/category/glenda-tapes/

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Swa said:

^^ Weren't all those glenda calls proven to be fakes????

THAT'S WHAT I SAID!

There authentic... its really Michael

claudiax said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Did anyone even make any money from these convos? Since they are all over the internet and can be downloaded for free, I dont see how anyone could have tried to cash in on these convos, unless maybe the guy who originally had them in his possession was able to make a few bucks off of them??

These are the audio and transcripts made of tape recordings of Michael Jackson speaking on the telephone to the Stein family from 1990-1992. Apparently Michael had been contacted by the son Damion Stein sometime around 1984 when he was a kid and Michael had written a message back to the Stein family and a friendship had developed from there. Damion claims that Michael’s phone calls to his family were taped out of jealousy, because Michael had been spending a lot of time speaking to his mother, Glenda, at all hours of the day, and her husband Sam was becoming suspicious they might be having an affair. The tapes were sold in 2005 to Hansnews.com, the TMZ of their day, seemingly by Damion Stein. It is not known whether Michael knew about the recordings, but he has never denied them and by all accounts they seem authentic.

The Stein family are: Sam and Glenda Stein, their sons Damion and Justin and daughter Megan.

Damion gave an interview in 2005 speaking about these conversations:

Damion: He adopted my family.

We opened up our family to him and he was kind of another member of the family. He got to experience what a family atmosphere was about. And I think that that isn’t something that he ever had himself.

Narrator: One of the most famous men in the world was now regularly driving out to Orange County to stay in Damion’s spare room.

Narrator: The Michael Jackson show got even more demanding, when the star began calling Damion’s mother day and night, to off load about his traumatic childhood.

Damion: He needed someone to confide in.

My dad would be waiting for my mom in bed, for her to to come to bed, and she would never come. She would be speaking to him in depth on the phone, late hours in the night.

Narrator: When Michael started calling three or four times a day, Damion’s father because suspicious and started to tape his telephone conversations.

It was extraordinary and flattering that a star like Michael would choose an ordinary family to confide his secrets to. But then Jackson suddenly stopped ringing.

Damion: And so we just waited on the phone call and it just never came. It was difficult to accept that.

Narrator: One minute Damion and his family were Michael’s best friends, the next they were sidelined.

In this page it is so all the conversations with the transcriptions and they can unload the audios, in addition there are photos of this family with Michael..

http://rhythmofthetide.com/category/glenda-tapes/

THIS. Thank you claudiax for posting this, that is correct!

There authentic... its really Michael

That's correct too Mjscarousal!

I may be presumptuous on this but i have a feeling we aren't gonna see much in the way of new music releases till this whole catalog hacking case gets sorted early next year

Do you guys think or know any different?

Xscaper said:

I may be presumptuous on this but i have a feeling we aren't gonna see much in the way of new music releases till this whole catalog hacking case gets sorted early next year

Do you guys think or know any different?

I don't think we'll get any new music until they're done promoting The Immortal show.. that CD was released less than 6 months ago. Still, TMZ says there will be [at least] 1 or [at most] 2 albums of 100% previously unreleased material before the end of 2017.

http://www.cirquedusoleil...fault.aspx

CrabalockerFishwife said:

Xscaper said:

I may be presumptuous on this but i have a feeling we aren't gonna see much in the way of new music releases till this whole catalog hacking case gets sorted early next year

Do you guys think or know any different?

I don't think we'll get any new music until they're done promoting The Immortal show.. that CD was released less than 6 months ago. Still, TMZ says there will be [at least] 1 or [at most] 2 albums of 100% previously unreleased material before the end of 2017.

That is Bull Sh*t ! 1 or 2!?!? are they out of there mind, they really piss me off, they could do so much! they are literally ignorant.

NINJA PANDA ATTACK!!!!

dm3857 said:

CrabalockerFishwife said:

I don't think we'll get any new music until they're done promoting The Immortal show.. that CD was released less than 6 months ago. Still, TMZ says there will be [at least] 1 or [at most] 2 albums of 100% previously unreleased material before the end of 2017.

That is Bull Sh*t ! 1 or 2!?!? are they out of there mind, they really piss me off, they could do so much! they are literally ignorant.

Yeah, they're 3 down in the 7 album deal and with the reissue of Bad coming up theres probably only gonna be 3 albums left in the tank. If they can find enough decent material for that.

Michael Jackson’s The Immortal Show Dethrones Jay-Z and Kanye West As Top Concert

Jay-Z and Kanye West’s ‘Watch The Throne’ tour took second place to Michael Jackson’s The Immortal Cirque du Soleil show on the top concerts list.

2011 was definitely the year of The Throne. When Jay-Z and Kanye West announced a collaboration album dubbed ‘Watch The Throne,’ we already knew to expect an incredible project. The album was held in high regard for many throughout the hip hop community, but what was more impressive was The Throne’s tour.

Anyone that attended the performance knows that there was absolutely nothing like it, and although the ‘N*ggas in Paris’ music video took actual footage from their show, if you weren’t there, you just can’t understand the energy these two possess on the stage together.

With a tour so spectacular though, the hip hop duo only managed to pull in the number 2 spot with an impressive $1,902,032. This number averages out to each fan spending around $113 per ticket.

It comes as no surprise that the only artist great enough to dethrone Jay-Z and Kanye West would be Michael Jackson himself.

‘Michael Jackson: The Immortal’ was a Cirque du Soleil show that pulled in the number 1 spot, thanks to a mind boggling $2,2362,502 in revenue being generated over the past three months in ticket sales. Even after death, Michael Jackson still has such a strong presence in pop culture, and many would say that he simply is pop culture.

Michael Jackson's Dad 83-Year-Old Hits Vegas Club ... at 2 PM!

83-year-old Joe Jackson threw on his best track jacket ... and goldest chain ... and hit the club scene in Vegas this weekend ... at 2 IN THE AFTERNOON.

Michael Jackson's father was chillin' at Lavo Champagne Brunch at the Palazzo Hotel ... a full-on nightclub-style party scene ... that serves almond crusted French toast.

Sources at the club tell TMZ ... JJ arrived with a male friend ... and wasn't boozing, only drinking water.

But he WAS pimpin' it ... hangin' out at a table with a group of hot chicks. At one point, he handed his camera to someone and said, "I want a picture with the girls."

After the pic, the girls described JJ as a "sweet old man."

What happens in Vegas ... is weird sometimes.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/12/joe-jackson-club-vegas-michael-jackson-photo/