Also the same man that was cheating on her was the same man when they were just acquaintances/buddies who told her to get him whatever girl he wanted and she obliged. When she married him, she thought she could make Ike a one-woman man but that was her mistake because she knew what kind of guy Ike was.

Timmy84 said:

Also the same man that was cheating on her was the same man when they were just acquaintances/buddies who told her to get him whatever girl he wanted and she obliged. When she married him, she thought she could make Ike a one-woman man but that was her mistake because she knew what kind of guy Ike was.

She befriended those women as well, esp when she realized that she couldn't change the situation.

Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

Also the same man that was cheating on her was the same man when they were just acquaintances/buddies who told her to get him whatever girl he wanted and she obliged. When she married him, she thought she could make Ike a one-woman man but that was her mistake because she knew what kind of guy Ike was.

She befriended those women as well, esp when she realized that she couldn't change the situation.

Right. I still shudder when I think about that whole situation with Ike and one of the Ikettes having a child and Tina almost killed herself over it. That woman went through some pain with that fool.

Timmy84 said:

BitetheBeat said:

I read it and I dont recall her saying she really fought him or anyone for that matter.

Some of Ike's former musicians recalled incidents of Tina slapping Ike a few times. Some others also saw Tina getting into it with some women. Either over Ike or something else. We gotta remember she was the choreographer of the Ikettes and taught each member their dance moves (Ike controlled everything else of course).

Oh,no I'm not saying she never did(and just left it out)...IDK! Harlepolis,I just dont recall reading about all these fights or even enough to mention. I know its been about 10 years since I read it but a tub story or all the dramatics not ringing a bell.

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BitetheBeat said:

Timmy84 said:

Some of Ike's former musicians recalled incidents of Tina slapping Ike a few times. Some others also saw Tina getting into it with some women. Either over Ike or something else. We gotta remember she was the choreographer of the Ikettes and taught each member their dance moves (Ike controlled everything else of course).

Oh,no I'm not saying she never did(and just left it out)...IDK! Harlepolis,I just dont recall reading about all these fights or even enough to mention. I know its been about 10 years since I read it but a tub story or all the dramatics not ringing a bell.

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Sounds like a re-read is in order for ya. I'm going to try and get my mom's copy this weekend.

I own the book. Its just weird I remember the suicide attempt, coffee incident, pregnancies, the last fight and Ann(a few others) but not this other stuff. My memory isn't that bad lol. Whats the name of the Ikette she did this to?

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missfee said:

BitetheBeat said:

Oh,no I'm not saying she never did(and just left it out)...IDK! Harlepolis,I just dont recall reading about all these fights or even enough to mention. I know its been about 10 years since I read it but a tub story or all the dramatics not ringing a bell.

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Sounds like a re-read is in order for ya. I'm going to try and get my mom's copy this weekend.

Yep.

And it was writtern by a Rolling Stone journalist, so you know the "gruesome" element will be shoved down the reader's throat lol,,,

Harlepolis said:

missfee said:

Sounds like a re-read is in order for ya. I'm going to try and get my mom's copy this weekend.

Yep.

And it was writtern by a Rolling Stone journalist, so you know the "gruesome" element will be shoved down the reader's throat lol,,,

Kurt Loder... I never liked that dude but for some reason Tina trusted him to "get the story out"...

BitetheBeat said:

Timmy84 said:

Some of Ike's former musicians recalled incidents of Tina slapping Ike a few times. Some others also saw Tina getting into it with some women. Either over Ike or something else. We gotta remember she was the choreographer of the Ikettes and taught each member their dance moves (Ike controlled everything else of course).

Oh,no I'm not saying she never did(and just left it out)...IDK! Harlepolis,I just dont recall reading about all these fights or even enough to mention. I know its been about 10 years since I read it but a tub story or all the dramatics not ringing a bell.

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lol you gotta read it again I guess. Read carefully. It might've been one of those "blink and you'll miss it" type of stories. Tina's movie was a Disney version of what really went down.

Still no name or time frame? I wanna look it up quick, since I'm already reading another bio.

Oh yeah and Tina did write that she knew what she was getting into once she and Ike had sex - by accident Ike & Tina said - while he was, well, you know, still married to his, I think, third wife.

BitetheBeat said:

Still no name or time frame? I wanna look it up quick, since I'm already reading another bio.

Harle already said she ain't gonna tell all the details for those who didn't read the book.

But alot was already said anyway .

BitetheBeat said:

I own the book. Its just weird I remember the suicide attempt, coffee incident, pregnancies, the last fight and Ann(a few others) but not this other stuff. My memory isn't that bad lol. Whats the name of the Ikette she did this to?

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Turn page 86

And it wasn't an Ikette btw, it was a prostitute that posed as Tina, who happen to be one of Ike's many companions.

BitetheBeat said:

But alot was already said anyway .

Harlepolis said:

BitetheBeat said:

I own the book. Its just weird I remember the suicide attempt, coffee incident, pregnancies, the last fight and Ann(a few others) but not this other stuff. My memory isn't that bad lol. Whats the name of the Ikette she did this to?

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Turn page 86

And it wasn't an Ikette btw, it was a prostitute that posed as Tina, who happen to be one of Ike's many companions.

Thanks . I'm waiting to get my head knocked off by the event . I shall return .

Timmy84 said:

Harlepolis said:

Yep.

And it was writtern by a Rolling Stone journalist, so you know the "gruesome" element will be shoved down the reader's throat lol,,,

Kurt Loder... I never liked that dude but for some reason Tina trusted him to "get the story out"...

He's cool by me. I would've been glad had only 1/3 of journalists nowadays had the same interviewing skills as him.

BitetheBeat said:

Harlepolis said:

Turn page 86

And it wasn't an Ikette btw, it was a prostitute that posed as Tina, who happen to be one of Ike's many companions.

Thanks . I'm waiting to get my head knocked off by the event . I shall return .

You'd probably come back and tell me shit wasn't dramatic enough Enjoy

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Found this at an Ike Turner memoriam page by one of his former musicians. Ike looks like he was tooting backstage. Tina looking at him like "fool, your eyes are rollin' in the back of your pea-size head..."

Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

Kurt Loder... I never liked that dude but for some reason Tina trusted him to "get the story out"...

He's cool by me. I would've been glad had only 1/3 of journalists nowadays had the same interviewing skills as him.

He was a good interview.

This is what I meant by little motherfucker:

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Got it here: http://www.sl-prokeys.com...turner.htm

Also found this one of Ike (who's looking like Sammy Davis with his eyes bugged out lol) and Tina onstage from sometime in the mid-1960s:

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Harlepolis said:

BitetheBeat said:

Thanks . I'm waiting to get my head knocked off by the event . I shall return .

You'd probably come back and tell me shit wasn't dramatic enough Enjoy

Naw, I appreciate the page # regardless! Okay so we got a girl thrown in a bathtub....so it happened. No wonder I didn't remember it was like 1 sentence, forgive me its been 10 years . But for the more recent readers do you feel she wrote much about her fighting?! I didnt feel that, it was more about others doing it.

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BitetheBeat said:

Harlepolis said:

You'd probably come back and tell me shit wasn't dramatic enough Enjoy

Naw I appreciate the page # regardless! Okay so we got a girl thrown in a bathtub....so it happened. No wonder I didn't remember it was 1 sentence, forgive me its been 10 years . But for the more recent readers do you feel she wrote much about her fighting?! I didnt feel that, it was more about others doing it.

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Some things she left out. She didn't tell exactly everything but then again most biographies, even one's as honest as Tina's, leave out some other details. It happens. Like I said in another thread, when Tina finally did leave him, she left at the right time because Ike was ready to sign another recording contract with another label that would leave Tina biding with Ike for five more years. She felt something was gonna blow so she fought him literally to get out.

Exactly cause I seriously dont remember reading her getting it on like that. Its like it read and was shown one way but than I look at her(and Ike also) and go seriously you didn't do more damage lol.

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HuMpThAnG said:

'Why doesn't Aretha like women?'

Anyways, yeah I think the question has been answered if you go to the first two pages.

Keeping it Ree...

I do have a few questions: does it seem like Aretha was closest to Carolyn than she was to Erma? It also seems like Aretha and Cecil (her brother) was also close. But I also heard that Cecil was something of a thug and possibly resented his father.

HuMpThAnG said:

'Why doesn't Aretha like women?'

She is okay its just the skinny/in shape ones she dont really like....

BitetheBeat said:

Exactly cause I seriously dont remember reading her getting it on like that.

You don't remember the gunshot altercation that went down between her and Ike when he tried to force her outta her friend's house too? Time to reach for the book again

^ I remember when you mentioned that. I was like: "damn I didn't know it was like that Anna!"