shellyk84 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yep that's Ike. Ike tried to get her to join his band but she told him flatly no. That would've been toxic anyway, if Ike had tried to hit her, Chaka would've wrestled him and broke that tiny summabitch. Ike was a little motherfucker!

God I never knew that Timmy poor Tina she turned backwards to please Ike nothing she did was good enough glad Chaka kicked him to the curb

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Yeah Ike was 5'7 and weighed about 130 lbs. So it's possible that while he wasn't the "towering figure" displayed in What's Love, he might've had a Napoleon complex.

That's a great pic of Ike & Tina by the way. Love how Tina slithered like that. That takes TALENT!

Timmy84 said:

BitetheBeat said:

Andre Fischer hit Chaka, a woman. Aw hell naw!

Yeah and Andre also allegedly beat Natalie Cole up too during their marriage, or at least was verbally abusive towards her. Chaka said later she felt betrayed by Natalie because she knew how Andre had treated her and yet she married the motherfucker anyway. They did make up (Chaka and Natalie) after Natalie divorced him.

Andre Fischer ...I DIDN'T KNOW! He's on my list .... ! I knew Natalie said in the end she felt used by him but I didn't know about abuse!

BitetheBeat said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah and Andre also allegedly beat Natalie Cole up too during their marriage, or at least was verbally abusive towards her. Chaka said later she felt betrayed by Natalie because she knew how Andre had treated her and yet she married the motherfucker anyway. They did make up (Chaka and Natalie) after Natalie divorced him.

Andre Fischer ...I DIDN'T KNOW! He's on my list .... ! I knew Natalie said in the end she felt used by him but I didn't know about abuse!

Andre did cheat on her numerous times so yeah.

Timmy84 said:

Yeah Ike was 5'7 and weighed about 130 lbs. So it's possible that while he wasn't the "towering figure" displayed in What's Love, he might've had a Napoleon complex.

That's a great pic of Ike & Tina by the way. Love how Tina slithered like that. That takes TALENT!

Yeah, was always odd to me she took so long to fight back. She always looked so strong, like she could throw down lol. I said this elsewhere there is no fair comparison between a man vs a woman but he's so not physically intimidating. He & I would've been getting it on in the worst way.

Timmy84 said:

BitetheBeat said:

Andre Fischer ...I DIDN'T KNOW! He's on my list .... ! I knew Natalie said in the end she felt used by him but I didn't know about abuse!

Andre did cheat on her numerous times so yeah.

She said it more like for professional gain.

BitetheBeat said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah Ike was 5'7 and weighed about 130 lbs. So it's possible that while he wasn't the "towering figure" displayed in What's Love, he might've had a Napoleon complex.

That's a great pic of Ike & Tina by the way. Love how Tina slithered like that. That takes TALENT!

Yeah, was always odd to me she took so long to fight back. She always looked so strong, like she could throw down lol. I said this elsewhere there is no fair comparison between a man vs a woman but he's so not physically intimidating. He & I would've been getting it on in the worst way.

I do believe Tina would hit him back a lot of times. There's stories of Tina and Ike getting into fights with other people (lest we forget Tina was a backwoods country girl from Tennessee so it ain't like she was new to the shit, she knew about that life because she lived it too long, that's why she left for Europe. ) One time, the Black Panthers confronted Ike & Tina about something and it's said that Tina was beating on one of the Black Panthers, I don't know if it was a male or female Panther member. Ike was beating on another Panther member too and possibly pistol whipped him. Another altercation - if you can call it that - was when Ike & Tina had finished a concert in San Francisco and some guy was beating on someone, Tina cautioned Ike "get the gun!" so Ike got his gun and shot a warning shot and the attacker got the hell outta dodge. Tina also got into fights over Ike with the women Ike was allegedly messing with. Their relationship was very complex. It's kinda like Bobby & Whitney, Ike & Tina were too toxic for each other so it don't surprise me that Tina left when she did, she was tired of covering up for Ike's ass.

Timmy84 said:

shellyk84 said:

God I never knew that Timmy poor Tina she turned backwards to please Ike nothing she did was good enough glad Chaka kicked him to the curb

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Yeah Ike was 5'7 and weighed about 130 lbs. So it's possible that while he wasn't the "towering figure" displayed in What's Love, he might've had a Napoleon complex.

That's a great pic of Ike & Tina by the way. Love how Tina slithered like that. That takes TALENT!

And she's flexable

yes lawd...

shellyk84 said:

Timmy84 said:

Please, that girl jumped on Andre Fischer's back after he attacked her then-husband. If she can jump on top of some grown ass huge man like Andre, what makes you think she can't take on 5'4, however pounds she is by now Aretha?

Hey Timmy I was told this is Ike Turner Chaka is kissing she is a tough cookie

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Is that Chaka for real? Doesn't look like her to me.

HuMpThAnG said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah Ike was 5'7 and weighed about 130 lbs. So it's possible that while he wasn't the "towering figure" displayed in What's Love, he might've had a Napoleon complex.

That's a great pic of Ike & Tina by the way. Love how Tina slithered like that. That takes TALENT!

And she's flexable

yes lawd...

Tina is sexy for a reason.

allsmutaside said:

shellyk84 said:

Hey Timmy I was told this is Ike Turner Chaka is kissing she is a tough cookie

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Is that Chaka for real? Doesn't look like her to me.

It was on JET magazine, a 1981 article if I'm not mistaken. And they said the woman Ike kissed was definitely Yvette "Chaka Khan" Stevens.

Betcha Ike got that

scriptgirl said:

Harle!! Baby where you been?

Lurking in the shadow as usual I love your question threads, I don't always, but you sure do ask the right questions most of the time

shellyk84 said:

Timmy84 said:

Please, that girl jumped on Andre Fischer's back after he attacked her then-husband. If she can jump on top of some grown ass huge man like Andre, what makes you think she can't take on 5'4, however pounds she is by now Aretha?

Hey Timmy I was told this is Ike Turner Chaka is kissing she is a tough cookie

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Wow! Thanks for posting this! Been looking for it for a while. I remember when this appeared in Jet magazine.

Lol! Thanks Harle!

Damn how y'all go from Aretha being catty and man hungry to might had been molested and fathered her first child by her philandering daddy to Ike and Tina to Ike might have had a taste of Chaka Kahn's kitty cat to Chaka Kahn refusing to be in his band and if she would had, would had probably kicked Ike's ass?

Only on the org.

Carry on.

Timmy84 said:

BitetheBeat said:

Yeah, was always odd to me she took so long to fight back. She always looked so strong, like she could throw down lol. I said this elsewhere there is no fair comparison between a man vs a woman but he's so not physically intimidating. He & I would've been getting it on in the worst way.

I do believe Tina would hit him back a lot of times. There's stories of Tina and Ike getting into fights with other people (lest we forget Tina was a backwoods country girl from Tennessee so it ain't like she was new to the shit, she knew about that life because she lived it too long, that's why she left for Europe. ) One time, the Black Panthers confronted Ike & Tina about something and it's said that Tina was beating on one of the Black Panthers, I don't know if it was a male or female Panther member. Ike was beating on another Panther member too and possibly pistol whipped him. Another altercation - if you can call it that - was when Ike & Tina had finished a concert in San Francisco and some guy was beating on someone, Tina cautioned Ike "get the gun!" so Ike got his gun and shot a warning shot and the attacker got the hell outta dodge. Tina also got into fights over Ike with the women Ike was allegedly messing with. Their relationship was very complex. It's kinda like Bobby & Whitney, Ike & Tina were too toxic for each other so it don't surprise me that Tina left when she did, she was tired of covering up for Ike's ass.

I figured this. That's why when I watched her VH1 "Behind the Music" (or was it "Legends"? :hmm2) episode I thought she was sort of full of shit. To me she was acting like her whole marriage to Ike was just a matter of "convenience" since she wanted to be a singer. I especially when alluded to being with Ike as All in her fake ass british accent that her and Madonna have seemed to have created. Right Tina, sure.

Don't get me wrong, I love Tina, she's definitely a legend, but her ass be full of it sometimes in those docu's. Just sayin'.

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Yeah. how do U get an British accent from living in Tennessee & Michigan?

missfee said:

Timmy84 said:

I do believe Tina would hit him back a lot of times. There's stories of Tina and Ike getting into fights with other people (lest we forget Tina was a backwoods country girl from Tennessee so it ain't like she was new to the shit, she knew about that life because she lived it too long, that's why she left for Europe. ) One time, the Black Panthers confronted Ike & Tina about something and it's said that Tina was beating on one of the Black Panthers, I don't know if it was a male or female Panther member. Ike was beating on another Panther member too and possibly pistol whipped him. Another altercation - if you can call it that - was when Ike & Tina had finished a concert in San Francisco and some guy was beating on someone, Tina cautioned Ike "get the gun!" so Ike got his gun and shot a warning shot and the attacker got the hell outta dodge. Tina also got into fights over Ike with the women Ike was allegedly messing with. Their relationship was very complex. It's kinda like Bobby & Whitney, Ike & Tina were too toxic for each other so it don't surprise me that Tina left when she did, she was tired of covering up for Ike's ass.

I figured this. That's why when I watched her VH1 "Behind the Music" (or was it "Legends"? :hmm2) episode I thought she was sort of full of shit. To me she was acting like her whole marriage to Ike was just a matter of "convenience" since she wanted to be a singer. I especially when alluded to being with Ike as All in her fake ass british accent that her and Madonna have seemed to have created. Right Tina, sure.

Don't get me wrong, I love Tina, she's definitely a legend, but her ass be full of it sometimes in those docu's. Just sayin'.

[Edited 2/24/12 17:16pm]

Tell me you read I, Tina, Missfee.

HuMpThAnG said:

Yeah. how do U get an British accent from living in Tennessee & Michigan?

I think you mean Missouri.

Harlepolis said:

missfee said:

I figured this. That's why when I watched her VH1 "Behind the Music" (or was it "Legends"? :hmm2) episode I thought she was sort of full of shit. To me she was acting like her whole marriage to Ike was just a matter of "convenience" since she wanted to be a singer. I especially when alluded to being with Ike as All in her fake ass british accent that her and Madonna have seemed to have created. Right Tina, sure.

Don't get me wrong, I love Tina, she's definitely a legend, but her ass be full of it sometimes in those docu's. Just sayin'.

[Edited 2/24/12 17:16pm]

Tell me you read I, Tina, Missfee.

Just parts of it. So I guess my answer is no. BUT I can always borrow my mom's copy to read when I get ready.

Timmy84 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

Yeah. how do U get an British accent from living in Tennessee & Michigan?

I think you mean Missouri.

Thought Madonna was from Michigan?

Harlepolis said:

missfee said:

I figured this. That's why when I watched her VH1 "Behind the Music" (or was it "Legends"? :hmm2) episode I thought she was sort of full of shit. To me she was acting like her whole marriage to Ike was just a matter of "convenience" since she wanted to be a singer. I especially when alluded to being with Ike as All in her fake ass british accent that her and Madonna have seemed to have created. Right Tina, sure.

Don't get me wrong, I love Tina, she's definitely a legend, but her ass be full of it sometimes in those docu's. Just sayin'.

[Edited 2/24/12 17:16pm]

Tell me you read I, Tina, Missfee.

I read it and I dont recall her saying she really fought him or anyone for that matter.

missfee said:

Harlepolis said:

Tell me you read I, Tina, Missfee.

Just parts of it. So I guess my answer is no. BUT I can always borrow my mom's copy to read when I get ready.

You're in for a good read. Its certainly is better than all of these documentaries and the movie.

BitetheBeat said:

Harlepolis said:

Tell me you read I, Tina, Missfee.

I read it and I dont recall her saying she really fought him or anyone for that matter.

I haven't really felt that urge to rush and read it. I don't know. Never really had a keen interest in it. Loved the pictures in it though.

missfee said:

Timmy84 said:

I do believe Tina would hit him back a lot of times. There's stories of Tina and Ike getting into fights with other people (lest we forget Tina was a backwoods country girl from Tennessee so it ain't like she was new to the shit, she knew about that life because she lived it too long, that's why she left for Europe. ) One time, the Black Panthers confronted Ike & Tina about something and it's said that Tina was beating on one of the Black Panthers, I don't know if it was a male or female Panther member. Ike was beating on another Panther member too and possibly pistol whipped him. Another altercation - if you can call it that - was when Ike & Tina had finished a concert in San Francisco and some guy was beating on someone, Tina cautioned Ike "get the gun!" so Ike got his gun and shot a warning shot and the attacker got the hell outta dodge. Tina also got into fights over Ike with the women Ike was allegedly messing with. Their relationship was very complex. It's kinda like Bobby & Whitney, Ike & Tina were too toxic for each other so it don't surprise me that Tina left when she did, she was tired of covering up for Ike's ass.

I figured this. That's why when I watched her VH1 "Behind the Music" (or was it "Legends"? :hmm2) episode I thought she was sort of full of shit. To me she was acting like her whole marriage to Ike was just a matter of "convenience" since she wanted to be a singer. I especially when alluded to being with Ike as All in her fake ass british accent that her and Madonna have seemed to have created. Right Tina, sure.

Don't get me wrong, I love Tina, she's definitely a legend, but her ass be full of it sometimes in those docu's. Just sayin'.

[Edited 2/24/12 17:16pm]

Lots of celebrities definitely sugarcoat some things. Tina LOVED that man, no question. The songs she sang - many of which Ike wrote, mind you - told you a woman who stood by this man despite all the shit he put her through.

I think also she knew leaving Ike at the point she wanted to would've been detrimental because I & TT's musical success was on a gradual climb. She left him when Ike's drug abuse took ahold of his life, not to mention their popularity with audiences fading around the time she got the hell outta dodge.

@ "only the ORG", yeah you know how we roll lol

Harlepolis said:

missfee said:

Just parts of it. So I guess my answer is no. BUT I can always borrow my mom's copy to read when I get ready.

You're in for a good read. Its certainly is better than all of these documentaries and the movie.

Okay. Well I'll go out on a limb and see if my mom will let me borrow her book (or rather I just go to her house when she's not there and borrow it, she won't miss it ).

HuMpThAnG said:

Timmy84 said:

I think you mean Missouri.

Thought Madonna was from Michigan?

I thought you were talking about Tina. But yeah I feel ya.

BitetheBeat said:

Harlepolis said:

Tell me you read I, Tina, Missfee.

I read it and I dont recall her saying she really fought him or anyone for that matter.

Oh yes she did

She damn near flipped the bath tub on one of the Ikettes for telling her she was out with her husband. And there were a couple of confrontations that took place during/after the separation.

I don't wanna burn it for missfee and those who haven't read. One thing for sure, which is why I enjoyed reading the book, is reading about the gradual transformation of Tina. Not only on a personal side - oh they went for that, alright - but musically, I love how the author documented her appreciation for music. It went from "get it in here Anna and sing rougher" to talking about singing country and Phill Spector's music.

BitetheBeat said:

Harlepolis said:

Tell me you read I, Tina, Missfee.

I read it and I dont recall her saying she really fought him or anyone for that matter.

Some of Ike's former musicians recalled incidents of Tina slapping Ike a few times. Some others also saw Tina getting into it with some women. Either over Ike or something else. We gotta remember she was the choreographer of the Ikettes and taught each member their dance moves (Ike controlled everything else of course).

Harlepolis said:

BitetheBeat said:

I read it and I dont recall her saying she really fought him or anyone for that matter.

Oh yes she did

She damn near flipped the bath tub on one of the Ikettes for telling her she was out with her husband. And there were a couple of confrontations that took place during/after the separation.

I don't wanna burn it for missfee and those who haven't read. One thing for sure, which is why I enjoyed reading the book, is reading about the gradual transformation of Tina. Not only on a personal side - oh they went for that, alright - but musically, I love how the author documented her appreciation for music. It went from "get it in here Anna and sing rougher" to talking about singing country and Phill Spector's music.

Now that would peak my interest.