LOVE. IT.

errant said:

LOVE. IT.

It's amazing.

I remember them promoting this song on that "The Box" network, when it was first released .

The video, the song, Me'shell is really great on this one, thank you for posting this.

It should run 24/7 on every tv channel in order to stop people running 'faggots' into suicide.

I remember the gay pride in Paris, when this group of religious people kneel in front of us praying to take the devil out of our lifes ..... It was frightning, more than those f****** right-wings in Warsaw shouting at us. When will people ever let us live our lifes?!

Listen also to BSLADE's new song "THE CHILDREN".

The song/video was powerful, maybe too powerful for some.

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

The message of the song may be a needed one, but I'm not really feeling the song. Maybe I would like another version of it. Certainly, though, people should realize that just because homosexuality is wrong to them or they feel displeased when thinking aobut it, that doesn't mean it is wrong in general. It just means it's wrong from their personal point of view. Having personal views on it is fine, but homosexuals should not be threatened or treated like second class citizens just because those opposed to homosexuality think it's wrong and are grossed out by it. It amazes me how some people believe they can get married to the adult of their choice all the while, they can tell another human being that they cannot marry the adult person of their choice. The self righteousness in that alone amazes me. It just translates into, "I have the right to love and marry who I want, but you don't!" If the shoes were on the other feet, you know they would not appreciate it. Love thy neighbor as thyself is the Law Of Christ and even some Christians can't do that to this day. Thankfully, you don't have to be a Christain or straight to be loved and accepted by God.

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that [I think] is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

You're going to get a lot of shit for this on here.

But as a gay man, I say right on. That's good enough for me. For now. (after I changed it just a little bit for you).

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ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

So you're gonna come up in this thread and say that? Stop.

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

i think you being allowed to breathe is wrong

badujunkie said:

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

i think you being allowed to breathe is wrong

SHHHHIIT.

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

Just for the record, I totally respect your view. You have every right to say what you believe is wrong in your eyes. I don't have to agree with you or you with me, but it is your right to say. I think people should be civil. Anything else would seem to imply that we all should agree with one another. And that is not going to ever happen here or out in the world.

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

Child...

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

Who the hell cares?

But as for the song itself, it's a great song!

And gay sex is great to

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

I think bigotry and ignorance is wrong, and it disgusts me. BUT I do think it's wrong to commit crimes against bigots, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is a bigot doesn't mean they deserve to die!

badujunkie said:

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

i think you being allowed to breathe is wrong

Gunsnhalen said:

But as for the song itself, it's a great song!

And gay sex is great to

I LOVE that picture!

Included this song in a lecture I gave a few years back. It rocked and so did I.

sosgemini said:

Included this song in a lecture I gave a few years back. It rocked and so did I.

I totally remember that!

ScarletScandal said:

sosgemini said:

Included this song in a lecture I gave a few years back. It rocked and so did I.

I totally remember that!

ISF said:

I think homosexuality is wrong, and it disgusts me. However, it is so wrong to commit crimes against the homosexual, or bully them into suicide. Just because someone is doing something that is wrong, doesn't mean they deserve to die!

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Okay. I may be opening a can of worms, but I'm just trying to get my head around this.

It's 2012. Not 1912.

We've had gay people in the arts since forever. We have many gay people who are out and nobody cares.

So where does this intolerance for gay people come from? Is it for all gay people? Or just gay men?

What is it about gay people that makes people go crazy?

I'm from NYC so they are like, everywhere, and for the most part no one cares one way or the other.

But for the haters, are they all stupid? Can we chalk it up to worldwide ignorance? Or is there another dynamic out there? Insecurity? Disgust? Religion?

I don't think it's a "preference" no matter what any Hollywood actors may say. You're born how you are born.

Last week, I showed someone the Prince concert from '85, the Purple Rain tour. You know the one. The one where Prince was a searingly-hot talent at the peak of his powers. The first thing she said to me within 10 seconds of watching it was: "Is he a faggot?"

WTF.

So I'm hoping that people who happen to be gay, perhaps can tell us from their side, why they think that violence against gays seems to have skyrocketed in the years since Bowie and company blazed across the sky.

The It Gets Better campaign is brilliant, but I never, ever would have thought we would have needed it in the 21st Century.

I think it's mainly religious people who have a problem with it. Although, if Jesus' corpse flew back to Earth and he said he was cool with homosexuality, millions of his followers would suddenly be fine with it. Others are just disgusted by the thought of it. I'm disgusted by seafood but I'll still be friends with people who eat it. It has nothing to do with me. Sexuality should be the same way. What does me fucking my boyfriend in our bedroom have to do with you??

It's fucking IGNORANCE. Us gays just want to be left the fuck alone like everyone else. Yet people go out of their way to prosecute gays. Live your life the way you want to and leave people the hell alone.

Gay sex is fucking beautiful!

MidniteMagnet said:

I think it's mainly religious people who have a problem with it. Although, if Jesus' corpse flew back to Earth and he said he was cool with homosexuality, millions of his followers would suddenly be fine with it. Others are just disgusted by the thought of it. I'm disgusted by seafood but I'll still be friends with people who eat it. It has nothing to do with me. Sexuality should be the same way. What does me fucking my boyfriend in our bedroom have to do with you??

Anyone got a mannequin, a fake beard and access to a small aircraft?

Alasseon said:

Okay. I may be opening a can of worms, but I'm just trying to get my head around this. It's 2012. Not 1912. We've had gay people in the arts since forever. We have many gay people who are out and nobody cares. So where does this intolerance for gay people come from? Is it for all gay people? Or just gay men? What is it about gay people that makes people go crazy?

I'm from NYC so they are like, everywhere, and for the most part no one cares one way or the other. But for the haters, are they all stupid? Can we chalk it up to worldwide ignorance? Or is there another dynamic out there? Insecurity? Disgust? Religion? I don't think it's a "preference" no matter what any Hollywood actors may say. You're born how you are born. Last week, I showed someone the Prince concert from '85, the Purple Rain tour. You know the one. The one where Prince was a searingly-hot talent at the peak of his powers. The first thing she said to me within 10 seconds of watching it was: "Is he a faggot?" WTF. So I'm hoping that people who happen to be gay, perhaps can tell us from their side, why they think that violence against gays seems to have skyrocketed in the years since Bowie and company blazed across the sky. The It Gets Better campaign is brilliant, but I never, ever would have thought we would have needed it in the 21st Century.

Well, there's more than just one reason why violence against gays is still an issue.

RELIGION

Some (if not most) people were raised and taught that homosexuals are people who live in direct opposition to what God intended. As a result, these people believe it's wrong. If one's faith is based on the Christian bible and they are serious about their faith, they will quote you the bible where it says that homosexuals should be put to death. Of course, in my estimated opinion and study, I find that people don't really understand what the bible verses they quote really mean in context. In fact, bible quoters are seemingly unconcerned about context when it comes to the gay issue. So, if you've been preached to or heard a sermon on homosexuality and how homosexuals were put to death then, as someone growing up hearing this, you may be inclined to "correct" a gay person via verbal abuse or physical abuse believing they are doing God's will. It's rather ironic because the true message of Jesus is missed in the actions of a lot of Christians. Love thy neighbor as thyself is Jesus' one and only Law. Violence against a homosexual is in violation of this Law. If you're a Christian and you're not treating others (including gay people) the way you would want to be treated, then you are breaking the one Law that justifies you before God. According to the bible, those who break this Law face temporary punishment. Sorry! Eternal punisment is not a teaching of the original bible. Just modern bibles. I ask any non-gay person here, how would you want to be treated if you were gay? Would you want the verbal and physical abuse? If not, don't do what you would not want done to you.

IT'S GROSS!

Another reason i think violence exists towards us is because some people find the very thought of two same gendered persons being intimate (whether sexual or not) as being gross. Interestingly enough, a good majority of straight men find two women together okay, but not two males. This has much to do, I think, with the fact that the straight males like women, so it's okay with them. Does this not seem a bit unfair and unjust for gay males? If homosexuality is gross to you, that's fine. We all have things we believe to be gross. Gross does not always equal wrong. Obviously not, since some straight males are okay with two women together. Whoever feels that way needs to really look inside themselves for fairness and justice. I like what Whoopi Goldberg says, "If you think gay relationships are wong, don't get in one!" LOL. Funny, yet true. I believe in everyone's right to express their opinion, but there's a way to do it in a nice manner without coming across as a jerk.

GAY MEN ARE EASY TARGETS

I also feel like some straight males believe gay men to be easy prey. Gay men, in general, are stereotypically looked at as if they were of the weaker sex. As a result, making fun of us verbally or physically (sometimes leading to harm) appears like an easy and attractive task by trouble seekers who have nothing better to do with their time if they happen to see a gay man or group of gay males when they're out and about. Yes, in some ways, gay males are like girls, but do not be fooled. Some gay men can kick a straight man's butt. Of course, that fact is not found out until the troublemaker attempts to mess with what appearst to be a weak gay male.

IGNORANCE

The less someone knows about gay people, the more their minds have the freedom to make up all kinds of imaginations regarding us. What they think is set in their minds and they retrieve what they think from their minds as they are face to face with a gay person. Verbalizing what they have in their minds. And, they think they sound smart doing it. LOL. Yes! They actually believe everything they think is correct about gay people and that it justifies their mistreatment of us. One example of ignorance would be for a black man who hates being called the "N" word to talk aobut a gay man by calling him the "F" word. Classic example of ignorance because if you can be a black man who calls a gay man the "F" word, you are implying, unconsciously, that you don't mind being called the "N" word. If you don't like being called the "N" word, why are you calling a gay man the "F" word?

SELF HATRED

Sometimes, when a man beats up a gay man, he is beating up himself. That is because he's gay, but does not want to be and he takes his frustration out on another gay man that is not himself. In some instances, beating up a gay man is a hope to prove to the gay man in denial that he is a real man, not a gay man. Hatred of self manifests itself in abuse of other gay men by the self denying gay man. Whether verbal or physical abuse.

For now, that's all I can think of to answer your question:)

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