Swa said:

As far as the Crique show goes - I've seen it twice. My best adivce to get maximum enjoyment out of the show is to check your MJ expectations at the door. For me, the first half of the show was just a reminder that MJ was no longer here. When you're in a live environment and you hear MJ's voice you half expect him to be there. Once I mentally checked myself and tried not to do the pointless comparisson between the show and the expeirences of seeing him live I started to accept it for what it is and enjoyed it.

Would love hear what you think of it when you see it.

Agh, I bought tickets yesterday for the London O2 date (but from the big gap in European dates I bet more will be added). We're right by the big catwalk stage part but they cost me £100 each PLUS extortionate booking fees and I was forced to buy the Immortal soundtrack album which I already own, and Ticketmaster said they couldn't refund me when I complained. Bastards.

I really hope it's at least a good night out. I generally hate MJ tributes and utterly loathe impersonators and people thinking they can dance like him - my hope is it's more proper Cirque with amazing acrobatics and staging and less groups of dancers doing MJ's choreography.

Ellie said:

Swa said:

As far as the Crique show goes - I've seen it twice. My best adivce to get maximum enjoyment out of the show is to check your MJ expectations at the door. For me, the first half of the show was just a reminder that MJ was no longer here. When you're in a live environment and you hear MJ's voice you half expect him to be there. Once I mentally checked myself and tried not to do the pointless comparisson between the show and the expeirences of seeing him live I started to accept it for what it is and enjoyed it.

Would love hear what you think of it when you see it.

Agh, I bought tickets yesterday for the London O2 date (but from the big gap in European dates I bet more will be added). We're right by the big catwalk stage part but they cost me £100 each PLUS extortionate booking fees and I was forced to buy the Immortal soundtrack album which I already own, and Ticketmaster said they couldn't refund me when I complained. Bastards.

I really hope it's at least a good night out. I generally hate MJ tributes and utterly loathe impersonators and people thinking they can dance like him - my hope is it's more proper Cirque with amazing acrobatics and staging and less groups of dancers doing MJ's choreography.

Ellie - if you view it as a Cirque show with MJ music and theme then you'll enjoy it. It's not a tribute - there aren't any MJ impersonators, and whilst there are key dance numbers - it is what people expect - it is more like you say a wonderful mix of Cirque acrobatics and staging with these moments.

And for what it is worth - I have seen it twice and am seeing it again in August so that says something as to it's enjoyability.

Timmy84 said:

He got bad press anywhere but I think some reason why European fans keep boasting about an anti-U.S. stance is because while Michael's records in the U.S. either did modestly well (compared to previous albums, mainly the trilogy of Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad and some even include Dangerous in the mix), Michael kept selling in Europe and Australasia still. But I don't think one country-based media was worse than the other one.

Exactly.

Dren5 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

oh dear timmy, I posted two videos , no one gave a fuck

Some fans are more obsessed with the man's personal life than the music ...it's ugly !

No, you just read whatever the fuck you wanted to, into my comments. Which is kinda retarded but you have every right to do nonsensical shit if you like.

My question is ....why you are so mad? I didn't even read your comments child , in fact , this is the first time I see you here .....have a seat please!

Militant said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I realy really don't know

This is fake or not...This instrumental ! maybe it's fake but I kinda like it

I like it too and it sounds like the kinda vibe that MJ would rock.

If it is a fake (ie, has nothing to do with MJ), it's still a very solid groove and also, very professionally mixed, so kudos to whomever made it

yeah, mabye it's fake but sounds original and professionally mixed as you said not like many other stupid instumental (loops ) created by the some fans.....

The nerve of some people I swear...

And me, being so damn nice to'em when they don't even deserve it.

I know a fella in my class who one time told me he was fond of Smooth Criminal. So what did I do? I gave the guy the "Moonwalker" version of the song as a present. He never writes back to say thank you, or even to tell me what he thought of it.

So I ask him today, 3 days later, if he even got it. He said it was nice, but he doesn't like it when Mike and the club goers are doing the whole "Aanniiiieeee, are you ok?" moan. So I'm like, "fair enough". And then he started talking about songs that got censored because they were too controversial. And TDCAU was brought up. I said that was a great song, very powerful. He disagreed. He said it was a bad song that should've not been released because young children would hear it, due to it's racial nature. I said that song was to spread awareness, and not just children listen to things like that. Everybody does. You can't just look at one aspect of it and criticize it to kingdom come. Look at the big picture.

And then he was like "You're such a product of the 60's...but then again, most of them had drug problems."

Motherfucker, did you just say I'm a drug addict?

I politely told him to kiss my ass. Not very professional, but who gives a fuck. He pretty much inferred I was a drug addict. So I glove-slapped him back.

It's things like this that make me wake up every morning, wondering why people HAVE to exist.

bboy87 said:

Dren5 said:

Honestly we won't know unless the estate comes out and confirms it's an MJ track, or some kind of vocal accompaniment to it is released. Could be (another) Malachi track, could be MJ. I don't even try to guess anymore.

If it's an instrumental and folks are saying it's from an unreleased track, I automatically know it's fake and it's usually fans who know their way around Reason or Pro Tools and they make some BS instrumental and then splice some random MJ words in (with echo so it can sound like Michael talking in the studio )

I remember someone trying to pass one of them off as "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" some years ago THEN the song actually leaked. They'll take an unreleased MJ song title then make a wack instrumental and expect people to believe it

Folks have tried to do this with Sunset Driver, She's Not A Girl, Fever, Face, and Rolling The Dice

And I've never heard of an unreleased MJ track leaking as JUST an instrumental. Love Never Felt So Good, Carousel, Hot Street, Nightline, She's Trouble, If You Don't Love Me, For All Time, Serious Effect, and others all leaked with music and vocals

MJ fans are always scheming, that's why some of them are in legal trouble right now

snippet of instrumental " don't be messin around " leaked , " I have this dream" instrumental was all over the internet also to have someone write the lyrics...Instrumental of " children's hour" leaked also but they took down Immediately. it happens

I'm NOT saying that " soldier's entrance" is legit , there is a high possiblity that it could be fake , but it sounds original at least not like some other stupid instrumentals

^ It's still fake no matter how original they make it.

Timmy84 said:

^ It's still fake no matter how original they make it.

I don't have a problem about it being fake , I just like it Mj or not !

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

The nerve of some people I swear...

And me, being so damn nice to'em when they don't even deserve it.

I know a fella in my class who one time told me he was fond of Smooth Criminal. So what did I do? I gave the guy the "Moonwalker" version of the song as a present. He never writes back to say thank you, or even to tell me what he thought of it.

So I ask him today, 3 days later, if he even got it. He said it was nice, but he doesn't like it when Mike and the club goers are doing the whole "Aanniiiieeee, are you ok?" moan. So I'm like, "fair enough". And then he started talking about songs that got censored because they were too controversial. And TDCAU was brought up. I said that was a great song, very powerful. He disagreed. He said it was a bad song that should've not been released because young children would hear it, due to it's racial nature. I said that song was to spread awareness, and not just children listen to things like that. Everybody does. You can't just look at one aspect of it and criticize it to kingdom come. Look at the big picture.

And then he was like "You're such a product of the 60's...but then again, most of them had drug problems."

Motherfucker, did you just say I'm a drug addict?

I politely told him to kiss my ass. Not very professional, but who gives a fuck. He pretty much inferred I was a drug addict. So I glove-slapped him back.

It's things like this that make me wake up every morning, wondering why people HAVE to exist.

That dude sucks Donkey Kong's Hairy Balls!!

seeingvoices12 said:

Dren5 said:

No, you just read whatever the fuck you wanted to, into my comments. Which is kinda retarded but you have every right to do nonsensical shit if you like.

My question is ....why you are so mad? I didn't even read your comments child , in fact , this is the first time I see you here .....have a seat please!

Having words put into my mouth because you're too dimwitted to be able to read a post properly, does incline me to get a little annoyed, yeah.

And I don't know about 'child' but since you called me one I'll gladly have a seat on your lap in order to take a runny shit in it.

You annoy. Don't write to me again.

bboy87 said:

Dren5 said:

Honestly we won't know unless the estate comes out and confirms it's an MJ track, or some kind of vocal accompaniment to it is released. Could be (another) Malachi track, could be MJ. I don't even try to guess anymore.

If it's an instrumental and folks are saying it's from an unreleased track, I automatically know it's fake and it's usually fans who know their way around Reason or Pro Tools and they make some BS instrumental and then splice some random MJ words in (with echo so it can sound like Michael talking in the studio )

I remember someone trying to pass one of them off as "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" some years ago THEN the song actually leaked. They'll take an unreleased MJ song title then make a wack instrumental and expect people to believe it

Folks have tried to do this with Sunset Driver, She's Not A Girl, Fever, Face, and Rolling The Dice

And I've never heard of an unreleased MJ track leaking as JUST an instrumental. Love Never Felt So Good, Carousel, Hot Street, Nightline, She's Trouble, If You Don't Love Me, For All Time, Serious Effect, and others all leaked with music and vocals

MJ fans are always scheming, that's why some of them are in legal trouble right now

Okay, once I thought about it I realized that's true - pretty much every MJ track that leaks has a vocal on it. Odds are good that this has nothinggggg to do with MJ.

Timmy84 said:

And you can always spot a hypocrite among the crowd... not all of those who became a fan of him after he died were honestly fans when he was alive. It's always been a trend to like any artist who dies.

So many people jumped onto the bandwagon right after he passed- :rolleyes:

They never cared for him before when he needed their support the most.

suga10 said:

Timmy84 said:

And you can always spot a hypocrite among the crowd... not all of those who became a fan of him after he died were honestly fans when he was alive. It's always been a trend to like any artist who dies.

So many people jumped onto the bandwagon right after he passed- :rolleyes:

They never cared for him before when he needed their support the most.

Yeah that's all I'm saying. It's like once someone dies, they think it's "cool" to like him. Like I said, I don't mind it but it is what it is.

Timmy84 said:

suga10 said:

So many people jumped onto the bandwagon right after he passed- :rolleyes:

They never cared for him before when he needed their support the most.

Yeah that's all I'm saying. It's like once someone dies, they think it's "cool" to like him. Like I said, I don't mind it but it is what it is.

I mind it. Clearly.

Dren5 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah that's all I'm saying. It's like once someone dies, they think it's "cool" to like him. Like I said, I don't mind it but it is what it is.

I mind it. Clearly.

I feel ya though. I'm always trying to see 50/50, it never works.

Watched Glee for the first and only time. I give it a 5/10

None of the covers moved me except for "Bad" which I thought was really well done but I wouldn't want to look at the show or listen to the covers again I think Scream was extremely corny as was Black Or White which I fast forwarded through after the first verse along with I Just Can't Stop Loving You

bboy87 said:

Watched Glee for the first and only time. I give it a 5/10

None of the covers moved me except for "Bad" which I thought was really well done but I wouldn't want to look at the show or listen to the covers again I think Scream was extremely corny as was Black Or White which I fast forwarded through after the first verse along with I Just Can't Stop Loving You

But watch the GLEE versions now rise up the itunes charts.

Hopefully some of the originals will be taken along with it.

bboy87 said:

Watched Glee for the first and only time. I give it a 5/10

None of the covers moved me except for "Bad" which I thought was really well done but I wouldn't want to look at the show or listen to the covers again I think Scream was extremely corny as was Black Or White which I fast forwarded through after the first verse along with I Just Can't Stop Loving You

I watched it, I give it a 3/10. I think the best job they did on a song was Human Nature, it works nice as a duet and I liked the acoustic guitar. The second best was Bad, they did a decent job with that although I liked the first half of the song more than the 2nd half. All the rest of the song covers were And that they had them recreate the Scream video was beyond pathetic.

Oh and I could tell the Estate had a hand in this episode when they had the characters plug the Cirque shows twice during the episode

[Edited 2/1/12 6:45am]

[Edited 2/1/12 6:45am]

bboy87 said:

Watched Glee for the first and only time. I give it a 5/10

None of the covers moved me except for "Bad" which I thought was really well done but I wouldn't want to look at the show or listen to the covers again I think Scream was extremely corny as was Black Or White which I fast forwarded through after the first verse along with I Just Can't Stop Loving You

I won't even attempt to watch "Glee" - hell, just the dumb ads for the MJ episode on YT were enough to scare me off. That's the show everybody raves about?

Dren5 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

My question is ....why you are so mad? I didn't even read your comments child , in fact , this is the first time I see you here .....have a seat please!

Having words put into my mouth because you're too dimwitted to be able to read a post properly, does incline me to get a little annoyed, yeah.

And I don't know about 'child' but since you called me one I'll gladly have a seat on your lap in order to take a runny shit in it.

You annoy. Don't write to me again.

you are just , I don't know really , I don't know you , I have never seen your name before, This is the first time I see your posts and I got a bad impression , I have never read any comments by you until you QUOTED me ....child ! what I said wasn't direct at you all , Never read your comments..child!

since you quoted my posts I answered , i don't give a fuck really , I could careless about your posts , who are u?

write to you ? , you are the one who qouted my posts and i answered ! you are Just narrow-minded !

[Edited 2/1/12 11:58am]

Michael Jackson tribute gives "Glee" a much-needed win

LOS ANGELES (TheWrap.com) - The cast of "Glee" had reason to do a celebratory moon-walk Wednesday morning.

The Fox show's tribute episode to Michael Jackson gave the show a double-digit boost to nab the top ratings spot of the night, according to preliminary numbers.

"Glee," airing at 8 p.m., drew a 3.6 rating/10 share in the adults 18-49 demographic, a 16 percent rise over last week and the night's top performer in the demographic. It had 9 million total viewers.

http://www.chicagotribune...6496.story

Swa said:

bboy87 said:

Watched Glee for the first and only time. I give it a 5/10

None of the covers moved me except for "Bad" which I thought was really well done but I wouldn't want to look at the show or listen to the covers again I think Scream was extremely corny as was Black Or White which I fast forwarded through after the first verse along with I Just Can't Stop Loving You

But watch the GLEE versions now rise up the itunes charts.

Hopefully some of the originals will be taken along with it.

I hope so. Especially cause the big three from Thriller were thankfully not included, I hope they recognize the greatness of the other songs.

seeingvoices12 said:

Dren5 said:

Having words put into my mouth because you're too dimwitted to be able to read a post properly, does incline me to get a little annoyed, yeah.

And I don't know about 'child' but since you called me one I'll gladly have a seat on your lap in order to take a runny shit in it.

You annoy. Don't write to me again.

you are just , I don't know really , I don't know you , I have never seen your name before, This is the first time I see your posts and I got a bad impression , I have never read any comments by you until you QUOTED me ....child ! what I said wasn't direct at you all , Never read your comments..child!

since you quoted my posts I answered , i don't give a fuck really , I could careless about your posts , who are u?

write to you ? , you are the one who qouted my posts and i answered ! you are Just narrow-minded !

[Edited 2/1/12 11:58am]

I'd take the time to read that, but frankly I just don't give a shit.

I feeel grrrrreeatttttt!!!!

*hops in the air, clicks feets together like a damn Mentos commercial*

Is there a song written or arranged by Clare Fischer(RIP ) for MJ other than Push Me Away?? Because that was technically for the Jacksons, right? According to wiki article, he worked with the Jacksons during the Salsa Picante years, and later years(post 1985 I suppose), it says he continued to work with artists like Prince, MJ and others...

Later Years

...Fischer continued to write for Prince and many other renowned artists including Michael Jackson before his death, Amy Grant, Brazilian artist João Gilberto (João), Paula Abdul, Natalie Cole and more recently Chaka Khan and Branford Marsalis

I'd really love to hear that !!

What did he write for Amy Grant? Baby Baby?

Emancipation89 said:

Is there a song written or arranged by Clare Fischer(RIP ) for MJ other than Push Me Away?? Because that was technically for the Jacksons, right? According to wiki article, he worked with the Jacksons during the Salsa Picante years, and later years(post 1985 I suppose), it says he continued to work with artists like Prince, MJ and others...

Later Years

...Fischer continued to write for Prince and many other renowned artists including Michael Jackson before his death, Amy Grant, Brazilian artist João Gilberto (João), Paula Abdul, Natalie Cole and more recently Chaka Khan and Branford Marsalis

I'd really love to hear that !!

I bet they were unreleased tracks or something, because off the top of my head I can't think of any songs MJ released later on that had that Fischer-style instrumentation to them.

I'd love to hear that stuff, though.

Dren5 said:

bboy87 said:

Watched Glee for the first and only time. I give it a 5/10

None of the covers moved me except for "Bad" which I thought was really well done but I wouldn't want to look at the show or listen to the covers again I think Scream was extremely corny as was Black Or White which I fast forwarded through after the first verse along with I Just Can't Stop Loving You

I won't even attempt to watch "Glee" - hell, just the dumb ads for the MJ episode on YT were enough to scare me off. That's the show everybody raves about?

I skipped through the show only to hear the covers which were "meh"

Naya Rivera is finer than a mug though

Michael couldn't get me to watch it even if his ghost woke me up and slapped me with his glove and convinced it was the bomb because Paris liked it.