Emancipation89 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

He did NOT sell 1 billion worldwide. That would equate to 1/7th of the world. I highly doubt that.

Hmm, that's only true if everyone bought only one of his albums.

The truth is, average MJ fan would at least have 6 or 7 albums of his. That already narrows it down to 140 million people, not 1/7th of the whole world. Plus some diehard fans would have probably 20 + albums of his. -- Somehow I bought 4 Thriller albums so far...Thriller ALONE. (I bought one, and the CD case cracked, so I bought another one, and when MJ died I bought a couple copies and gave them to my friends who were not very familiar with MJ lol) -

But I'm not saying there's 100 million MJ fans in the world. I guess "billion" sounds like it's just too much. Not that the numbers really matter, at the end...

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babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

They're counting the solo Motown albums, the solo Epic albums, the countless compilations, the Jackson 5 albums, and the Jacksons albums. You gotta go all the way back to 1969 and count all of those. I wouldn't be surprised if the number came to over 800 million to a billion

I still don’t think it’s accurate as timmy was saying but I’m sure they are counting the Jackson 5/motown albums though.

Hmm, even counting all the compilations, the Jackson 5 albums, the solo Motown albums, and the Jacksons albums, that's still around 400 million or so. Far off from a billion in my estimates. So that's about the same amount the Beatles sold.

smoothcriminal12 said:

babybugz said:

They been I really prefer that we just stick to open threads like I said earlier. I love me some Michael but yall not talking about anything worth while in this thread now so… lol.

Right? All I see are a bunch of photos.

If we were able to post unreleased stuff, we'd have loads to discuss

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

They're counting the solo Motown albums, the solo Epic albums, the countless compilations, the Jackson 5 albums, and the Jacksons albums. You gotta go all the way back to 1969 and count all of those. I wouldn't be surprised if the number came to over 800 million to a billion

I still don’t think it’s accurate as timmy was saying but I’m sure they are counting the Jackson 5/motown albums though.

When they counted it all up in '09 it was around 725 but they only counted a couple of the compilations

and DAMN, Motown seemed to just piss out compilations in the 80s and 90s

babybugz said:

Emancipation89 said:

lol I'm sorry you felt it that way. I feel like I swallowed 100 MJ-fanatic-pills today. I just had to talk about MJ.

But I don't really get what you're trying to say. Even if they allowed open threads, there can also be meaningless silly discussions, and what do you do? You skip those threads. Same with this sticky. No one owns it. If you think what we're talking about is not worth while, come back some other time. Or start a discussion that you think it's worth while, I'll jump right into it

No. I’m saying that the open threads are better because a lot of people don’t come into the sticky. Say what you want but there has been way better discussions outside the sticky . And I wasn't trying to offend but i'm not going to change my words either.

Hmm, if you weren't trying to offend, I don't think this was the right place to complain. There's site discussion subforum you can go to and you need to talk to mods about that.

Emancipation89 said:

babybugz said:

No. I’m saying that the open threads are better because a lot of people don’t come into the sticky. Say what you want but there has been way better discussions outside the sticky . And I wasn't trying to offend but i'm not going to change my words either.

Hmm, if you weren't trying to offend, I don't think this was the right place to complain. There's site discussion subforum you can go to and you need to talk to mods about that.

Why is not the right place though? I just said we don’t need a sticky anymore and I said I’m not trying to offend because you seem to be getting offended about it. Others agreed but I’m getting jumped on as usual it’s just my opinion no one is forcing you to agree.

bboy87 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Right? All I see are a bunch of photos.

If we were able to post unreleased stuff, we'd have loads to discuss

I wish.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I still don’t think it’s accurate as timmy was saying but I’m sure they are counting the Jackson 5/motown albums though.

When they counted it all up in '09 it was around 725 but they only counted a couple of the compilations

and DAMN, Motown seemed to just piss out compilations in the 80s and 90s

But no albums?

babybugz said:

Emancipation89 said:

lol I'm sorry you felt it that way. I feel like I swallowed 100 MJ-fanatic-pills today. I just had to talk about MJ.

But I don't really get what you're trying to say. Even if they allowed open threads, there can also be meaningless silly discussions, and what do you do? You skip those threads. Same with this sticky. No one owns it. If you think what we're talking about is not worth while, come back some other time. Or start a discussion that you think it's worth while, I'll jump right into it

No. I’m saying that the open threads are better because a lot of people don’t come into the sticky. Say what you want but there has been way better discussions outside the sticky . And I wasn't trying to offend but i'm not going to change my words either.

Who cares? A lot of them a trolls and snobbish ass Prince fans who'd just come in to point their finger at you and resume the MJ vs. Prince vendetta. Discussions always break down. The creme de la creme of fan society don't exactly hang out here, y'know.

Riff-raff the lone MJ thread in this site doesn't need if you ask me.

Hate away.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I still don’t think it’s accurate as timmy was saying but I’m sure they are counting the Jackson 5/motown albums though.

When they counted it all up in '09 it was around 725 but they only counted a couple of the compilations

and DAMN, Motown seemed to just piss out compilations in the 80s and 90s

How many compilations on Michael did they release on him in the '70s, '80s and '90s?

Bboy leak something

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

When they counted it all up in '09 it was around 725 but they only counted a couple of the compilations

and DAMN, Motown seemed to just piss out compilations in the 80s and 90s

How many compilations on Michael did they release on him in the '70s, '80s and '90s?

I’m wondering myself.

Has there been any word on the Bad re-release?

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

How many compilations on Michael did they release on him in the '70s, '80s and '90s?

I’m wondering myself.

over 60

babybugz said:

Has there been any word on the Bad re-release?

Slated for a late August-early September release this year. We'll be hearing the official word soon from what I was told

and yea, the Bad Tour is part of it but may be released seperately. They're still planning

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I’m wondering myself.

over 60

I guess the other 58 didn't sell as much. Motown's crazy with compilations in general, like the Marvin ones, the Supremes/Diana Ross ones, etc.

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

over 60

I guess the other 58 didn't sell as much. Motown's crazy with compilations in general, like the Marvin ones, the Supremes/Diana Ross ones, etc.

They lease songs out to smaller companies and all that. They release, re-release, re-re-release

I think they're worse with Michael and Marvin over anyone. I've seen Marvin Gaye compilations at gas stations

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I guess the other 58 didn't sell as much. Motown's crazy with compilations in general, like the Marvin ones, the Supremes/Diana Ross ones, etc.

They lease songs out to smaller companies and all that. They release, re-release, re-re-release

I think they're worse with Michael and Marvin over anyone. I've seen Marvin Gaye compilations at gas stations

You can tell which artist they cared for the most in Motown because Michael and Marvin's compilations outnumber the rest! I'm shocked with how few Diana Ross compilations there are compared to Marvin and, especially, Michael.

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I guess the other 58 didn't sell as much. Motown's crazy with compilations in general, like the Marvin ones, the Supremes/Diana Ross ones, etc.

They lease songs out to smaller companies and all that. They release, re-release, re-re-release

I think they're worse with Michael and Marvin over anyone. I've seen Marvin Gaye compilations at gas stations

I wish they release those tours. I just want the Jackson tours now... The bad tour I got last year.

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

They lease songs out to smaller companies and all that. They release, re-release, re-re-release

I think they're worse with Michael and Marvin over anyone. I've seen Marvin Gaye compilations at gas stations

I wish they release those tours. I just want the Jackson tours now... The bad tour I got last year.

I wonder if Motown has live performance footage from the Jackson 5 tours. They should issue that one when they were performing in Mexico in 1975 (which didn't feature Jermaine). I don't know if it's still on YouTube or not, that was a good show. Michael was going through a transition vocally, career-wise and performance wise at the time of that performance. I think they were about to leave Motown when they did that show.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

I wish they release those tours. I just want the Jackson tours now... The bad tour I got last year.

I wonder if Motown has live performance footage from the Jackson 5 tours. They should issue that one when they were performing in Mexico in 1975 (which didn't feature Jermaine). I don't know if it's still on YouTube or not, that was a good show. Michael was going through a transition vocally, career-wise and performance wise at the time of that performance. I think they were about to leave Motown when they did that show.

It's so much they could be releasing it really doesn't make sense.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

I wonder if Motown has live performance footage from the Jackson 5 tours. They should issue that one when they were performing in Mexico in 1975 (which didn't feature Jermaine). I don't know if it's still on YouTube or not, that was a good show. Michael was going through a transition vocally, career-wise and performance wise at the time of that performance. I think they were about to leave Motown when they did that show.

It's so much they could be releasing it really doesn't make sense.

Yeah I don't know what Motown is actually WAITING for. Ain't like the actual company's releases are making ANY money anyways, so why not? Motown has a chance to make old fans of the Jackson 5 and Michael happy with putting out concert DVDs or what not but they still seem to be sitting on them.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

It's so much they could be releasing it really doesn't make sense.

Yeah I don't know what Motown is actually WAITING for. Ain't like the actual company's releases are making ANY money anyways, so why not? Motown has a chance to make old fans of the Jackson 5 and Michael happy with putting out concert DVDs or what not but they still seem to be sitting on them.

Yeah it’s weird. I would think 2009 and 2010 would be floods of stuff but I’m a little surprise there wasn’t. Yeah we had magazines, books some greatest hits albums but it could have been more I would have thought anyway. I don't know maybe they thinking all these things are on youtube they don't need to release it

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I don't know what Motown is actually WAITING for. Ain't like the actual company's releases are making ANY money anyways, so why not? Motown has a chance to make old fans of the Jackson 5 and Michael happy with putting out concert DVDs or what not but they still seem to be sitting on them.

Yeah it’s weird. I would think 2009 and 2010 would be floods of stuff but I’m a little surprise there wasn’t. Yeah we had magazines, books some greatest hits albums but it could have been more I would have thought anyway. I don't know maybe they thinking all these things are on youtube they don't need to release it

That may be a reason. And I know they wanted to make money but for some reason they're not doing it so letting it be on YouTube could be a reason I don't know.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I don't know what Motown is actually WAITING for. Ain't like the actual company's releases are making ANY money anyways, so why not? Motown has a chance to make old fans of the Jackson 5 and Michael happy with putting out concert DVDs or what not but they still seem to be sitting on them.

Yeah it’s weird. I would think 2009 and 2010 would be floods of stuff but I’m a little surprise there wasn’t. Yeah we had magazines, books some greatest hits albums but it could have been more I would have thought anyway. I don't know maybe they thinking all these things are on youtube they don't need to release it

they released a crapload of compilations in 2009-2010

2009

Hello World

The Stripped Mixes

Mellow Michael Jackson

Soul Sources: The Best Of Jackson 5 Remixes (Japan only)

Michael Jackson And The Jackson 5: The Early Years (Australia only)

The Definitive Collection

The Early Years (Barnes and Noble only release)

The Remix Suite

The Complete Motown Collection (Japan only)

2010

J Is For Jackson 5

Michael Jackson and The Jackson 5 Best Remixes (Japan only)

Diana Ross Presents+ABC (Europe only)

Got To Be There+Forever Michael (europe only)

Jackson 5 Icon

Jackson 5 Icon (2 CD edition)

The Jackson 5 Live At The Forum

Only 3 were worthwhile

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

Yeah it’s weird. I would think 2009 and 2010 would be floods of stuff but I’m a little surprise there wasn’t. Yeah we had magazines, books some greatest hits albums but it could have been more I would have thought anyway. I don't know maybe they thinking all these things are on youtube they don't need to release it

they released a crapload of compilations in 2009-2010

2009

Hello World

The Stripped Mixes

Mellow Michael Jackson

Soul Sources: The Best Of Jackson 5 Remixes (Japan only)

Michael Jackson And The Jackson 5: The Early Years (Australia only)

The Definitive Collection

The Early Years (Barnes and Noble only release)

The Remix Suite

The Complete Motown Collection (Japan only)

2010

J Is For Jackson 5

Michael Jackson and The Jackson 5 Best Remixes (Japan only)

Diana Ross Presents+ABC (Europe only)

Got To Be There+Forever Michael (europe only)

Jackson 5 Icon

Jackson 5 Icon (2 CD edition)

The Jackson 5 Live At The Forum

Only 3 were worthwhile

Most of those compilations were not worth buying anyways...

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

They lease songs out to smaller companies and all that. They release, re-release, re-re-release

I think they're worse with Michael and Marvin over anyone. I've seen Marvin Gaye compilations at gas stations

I wish they release those tours. I just want the Jackson tours now... The bad tour I got last year.

Say what?!

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I wish they release those tours. I just want the Jackson tours now... The bad tour I got last year.

Say what?!

Son of a...!

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I wish they release those tours. I just want the Jackson tours now... The bad tour I got last year.

Say what?!

Oh that kind of slipped out but let’s move on

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

Yeah it’s weird. I would think 2009 and 2010 would be floods of stuff but I’m a little surprise there wasn’t. Yeah we had magazines, books some greatest hits albums but it could have been more I would have thought anyway. I don't know maybe they thinking all these things are on youtube they don't need to release it

they released a crapload of compilations in 2009-2010

2009

Hello World

The Stripped Mixes

Mellow Michael Jackson

Soul Sources: The Best Of Jackson 5 Remixes (Japan only)

Michael Jackson And The Jackson 5: The Early Years (Australia only)

The Definitive Collection

The Early Years (Barnes and Noble only release)

The Remix Suite

The Complete Motown Collection (Japan only)

2010

J Is For Jackson 5

Michael Jackson and The Jackson 5 Best Remixes (Japan only)

Diana Ross Presents+ABC (Europe only)

Got To Be There+Forever Michael (europe only)

Jackson 5 Icon

Jackson 5 Icon (2 CD edition)

The Jackson 5 Live At The Forum

Only 3 were worthwhile

That really sucks