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Reply #30 posted 01/14/12 9:42am

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missfee said:

Okay so tell me if I got this right....

I absolutely love the songs: "When Love Calls", "Circles" and "Touch a Four Leaf Clover". So these songs were the ones featuring Sharon Bryant correct?

I find these songs to be absolutely cheesy and despise them: "Always", "Secret Lover", "If Your Heart Isn't In It". These songs are the ones featuring Barbara Weathers? Cause these are the tunes that put me to sleep.

Again, I truly believe that's why the group finally started to cross over more onto the Pop charts when Sharon left because Barbara had the tamed-down Pop voice while Sharon was more of a belt-it-out Soul singer.

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Reply #31 posted 01/14/12 9:47am

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missfee said:

Okay so tell me if I got this right....

I absolutely love the songs: "When Love Calls", "Circles" and "Touch a Four Leaf Clover". So these songs were the ones featuring Sharon Bryant correct?

I find these songs to be absolutely cheesy and despise them: "Always", "Secret Lover", "If Your Heart Isn't In It". These songs are the ones featuring Barbara Weathers? Cause these are the tunes that put me to sleep.

Yep, the best songs were in the Sharon Bryant era of the group. I was around for the Barbara Weathers/post-Barbara years of the group...

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Reply #32 posted 01/14/12 10:02am

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Reply #33 posted 01/14/12 11:34am

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Send For Me

That was Atlantic Star correct?

Was that Sharon or Barbara?

Cause THAT is the era I love.

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Reply #34 posted 01/14/12 11:46am

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I'm just a telephone call away, SEND FOR ME.

Put a message in a bottle baby, SEND FOR ME.

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Reply #35 posted 01/14/12 3:49pm

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Send For Me

That was Atlantic Star correct?

Was that Sharon or Barbara?

Cause THAT is the era I love.

That was the Sharon Byrant era. According to Wiki, "Send for Me" is on the same album as "When Love Calls" is on.

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Reply #36 posted 01/14/12 4:56pm

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^

Thanks ffor the info.

So it is Sharon's era that I love as well.

I did notice that at some point... which I now believe is Barbara's era that their songs consisted of more love ballads and yes, always the poppy cheezy sounding DUETS. All of them.

Send for me was a male lead and killer harmonies.

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Reply #37 posted 01/14/12 5:05pm

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Send For Me

That was Atlantic Star correct?

Was that Sharon or Barbara?

Cause THAT is the era I love.

Sharon was in the group when that was done. And I think David Lewis is the one singing lead on it. Nah, that was Wayne Lewis, I think, not David. David was the tenor while Wayne was baritone if I'm not mistaken.

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Reply #38 posted 01/14/12 5:06pm

Timmy84

prodigalfan said:

^

Thanks ffor the info.

So it is Sharon's era that I love as well.

I did notice that at some point... which I now believe is Barbara's era that their songs consisted of more love ballads and yes, always the poppy cheezy sounding DUETS. All of them.

Send for me was a male lead and killer harmonies.

Ironically I think Barbara only lasted three years with the group, Sharon lasted the first seven years.

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Reply #39 posted 01/14/12 5:09pm

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phunkdaddy said:

babybugz said:

Atlantic Starr was the better and most memorable out of those groups.

I saw Starpoint and Atlantic Starr on the same show back in the mid

eighties and Starpoint's show was definitely better. Atlantic Starr was

very bland with Barbara Weathers to the point they literally put me to

sleep. Midnight Star would smoke Atlantic Starr like a mutherfuckin

pack of Kools. That said i look forward to this episode but i liked the

Sharon Bryant era a lot better.

I was born in 87 so can’t say or agree but I do know Atlantic Starr were the ones people prefer.

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Reply #40 posted 01/14/12 5:30pm

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Timmy84 said:

prodigalfan said:

^

Thanks ffor the info.

So it is Sharon's era that I love as well.

I did notice that at some point... which I now believe is Barbara's era that their songs consisted of more love ballads and yes, always the poppy cheezy sounding DUETS. All of them.

Send for me was a male lead and killer harmonies.

Ironically I think Barbara only lasted three years with the group, Sharon lasted the first seven years.

Im dieing for the Full Force show because Bowlegged Lou was always coming around where i worked back then and he was cool as shit, this was around the time though that him and Lisa And Lisa basically were all going seperate ways. Around this time too and till this day still get a chance to talk to Cheryl Pepsi Riley who is a super cool woman!


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Reply #41 posted 01/14/12 5:35pm

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lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

Ironically I think Barbara only lasted three years with the group, Sharon lasted the first seven years.

Im dieing for the Full Force show because Bowlegged Lou was always coming around where i worked back then and he was cool as shit, this was around the time though that him and Lisa And Lisa basically were all going seperate ways. Around this time too and till this day still get a chance to talk to Cheryl Pepsi Riley who is a super cool woman!

Full Force's episode should be very interesting...

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Reply #42 posted 01/14/12 5:41pm

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lastdecember said:

Im dieing for the Full Force show because Bowlegged Lou was always coming around where i worked back then and he was cool as shit, this was around the time though that him and Lisa And Lisa basically were all going seperate ways. Around this time too and till this day still get a chance to talk to Cheryl Pepsi Riley who is a super cool woman!

Full Force's episode should be very interesting...

Im curious what they might/will say about the injection of hip hop into what they were doing, the dance push that corrupted Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam etc..


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Reply #43 posted 01/16/12 6:04am

SoulAlive

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I look forward to this episode mainly because of Sharon Bryant.

Barbara was dating Wayne during her tenure with the group.

After Barbara went solo it was one female lead after another.

Yep,it became comical after awhile lol With each subsequent album,there was a new female vocalist.

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Reply #44 posted 01/16/12 6:10am

SoulAlive

babybugz said:

phunkdaddy said:

I saw Starpoint and Atlantic Starr on the same show back in the mid

eighties and Starpoint's show was definitely better. Atlantic Starr was

very bland with Barbara Weathers to the point they literally put me to

sleep. Midnight Star would smoke Atlantic Starr like a mutherfuckin

pack of Kools. That said i look forward to this episode but i liked the

Sharon Bryant era a lot better.

I was born in 87 so can’t say or agree but I do know Atlantic Starr were the ones people prefer.

As far as uptempo jams are concerned,Midnight Star was the superior band

As far as slow jams are concerned,Atlantic Starr was the superior band

I actually saw both bands in concert a few years ago and in a live setting,there's no competition.Midnight Star kicks ass!

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Reply #45 posted 01/16/12 7:55am

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SoulAlive said:

babybugz said:

I was born in 87 so can’t say or agree but I do know Atlantic Starr were the ones people prefer.

As far as uptempo jams are concerned,Midnight Star was the superior band

As far as slow jams are concerned,Atlantic Starr was the superior band

I actually saw both bands in concert a few years ago and in a live setting,there's no competition.Midnight Star kicks ass!

Yeah, Midnight Star was also more in the electro-funk zone: "Freak-A-Zoid," "Hot Spot" (with Bootsy), "No Parking On The Dancefloor," "Operator," "Tuff," "Victory," and their use of the vocoder in various tracks which device Atlantic Starr rarely used if at all.

Atlantic Starr's "Your's Forever" album from 1983 was already going more in the direction of mainly slow,- or midtempo-jams: "Touch A Four Leave Clover," "Second To None," "More Time For Me," the title track, while both Midnight Star's and Starpoint's albums in 1983 were overall dance-related.

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Reply #46 posted 01/16/12 8:40am

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missfee said:

Okay so tell me if I got this right....

I absolutely love the songs: "When Love Calls", "Circles" and "Touch a Four Leaf Clover". So these songs were the ones featuring Sharon Bryant correct?

I find these songs to be absolutely cheesy and despise them: "Always", "Secret Lover", "If Your Heart Isn't In It". These songs are the ones featuring Barbara Weathers? Cause these are the tunes that put me to sleep.

I feel the same way and I also love "Am I Dreaming". I love lots of their earlier songs but I absolutely hate that crossover adult contemporary shit they did beginning with "Secret Lovers".

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Reply #47 posted 01/16/12 8:42am

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kitbradley said:

missfee said:

Okay so tell me if I got this right....

I absolutely love the songs: "When Love Calls", "Circles" and "Touch a Four Leaf Clover". So these songs were the ones featuring Sharon Bryant correct?

I find these songs to be absolutely cheesy and despise them: "Always", "Secret Lover", "If Your Heart Isn't In It". These songs are the ones featuring Barbara Weathers? Cause these are the tunes that put me to sleep.

Again, I truly believe that's why the group finally started to cross over more onto the Pop charts when Sharon left because Barbara had the tamed-down Pop voice while Sharon was more of a belt-it-out Soul singer.

It wasn't the voice that I noticed. It was the watered down weak sound of the songs which is typical when people try to crossover. It's like they became a band version of Shitney Houston.

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Reply #48 posted 01/16/12 8:48am

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SoulAlive said:

babybugz said:

I was born in 87 so can’t say or agree but I do know Atlantic Starr were the ones people prefer.

As far as uptempo jams are concerned,Midnight Star was the superior band

As far as slow jams are concerned,Atlantic Starr was the superior band

I actually saw both bands in concert a few years ago and in a live setting,there's no competition.Midnight Star kicks ass!

Concerning Midnight Star and Atlantic Starr slow jams, I'll take "Slow Jam", "Let's Celebrate", and "Love Song" over stuff like "Secret Lovers" and "If Your Heart Isn't In It" any day. I love that sexy 3 a.m. feel of Midnight Star's slow jams and that screaming in the songs.

As for Starpoint, my favorite is "Keep On It" from 1981 with the male vocals. It sounded more like a funk band rather than a solo female artist which is what they eventually ended up sounding like.

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Reply #49 posted 01/16/12 8:52am

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I wonder how far back into the early years will be discussed on the ep

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Reply #50 posted 01/16/12 9:05am

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missfee said:

Okay so tell me if I got this right....

I absolutely love the songs: "When Love Calls", "Circles" and "Touch a Four Leaf Clover". So these songs were the ones featuring Sharon Bryant correct?

I find these songs to be absolutely cheesy and despise them: "Always", "Secret Lover", "If Your Heart Isn't In It". These songs are the ones featuring Barbara Weathers? Cause these are the tunes that put me to sleep.

Another vote for Sharon. Those were the songs, and I also loved Love Me Down. I prefer the sounds of those songs over the ones with Barbara Weathers.

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Reply #51 posted 01/16/12 1:06pm

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Atlantic Starr, Starpoint and Midnight Star were all interchangeable to me

Three totally different groups with different sounds

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Reply #52 posted 01/16/12 1:26pm

Musicslave

....aaaaand here's another vote for the Sharon Bryant column. Didn't she have at least one R&B solo hit after leaving the band?

Considering the high turnover ratio with the female leads, this might be interesting tonight....

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Reply #53 posted 01/16/12 1:29pm

Timmy84

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....aaaaand here's another vote for the Sharon Bryant column. Didn't she have at least one R&B solo hit after leaving the band?

Considering the high turnover ratio with the female leads, this might be interesting tonight....

Yep. I forgot the name of it though.

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Reply #54 posted 01/16/12 1:31pm

SoulAlive

vainandy said:

SoulAlive said:

As far as uptempo jams are concerned,Midnight Star was the superior band

As far as slow jams are concerned,Atlantic Starr was the superior band

I actually saw both bands in concert a few years ago and in a live setting,there's no competition.Midnight Star kicks ass!

Concerning Midnight Star and Atlantic Starr slow jams, I'll take "Slow Jam", "Let's Celebrate", and "Love Song" over stuff like "Secret Lovers" and "If Your Heart Isn't In It" any day. I love that sexy 3 a.m. feel of Midnight Star's slow jams and that screaming in the songs.

As for Starpoint, my favorite is "Keep On It" from 1981 with the male vocals. It sounded more like a funk band rather than a solo female artist which is what they eventually ended up sounding like.

I think you're forgetting about all those other great slow jams that Atlantic Starr had in the early 80s: "Send For Me","Am I Dreaming","Let's Get Closer","Love Me Down","More And More",etc.

These songs are sexy and soulful,unlike some of the pop stuff that came later (such as the awful "Secret Lovers")

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Reply #55 posted 01/16/12 1:33pm

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SoulAlive said:

vainandy said:

Concerning Midnight Star and Atlantic Starr slow jams, I'll take "Slow Jam", "Let's Celebrate", and "Love Song" over stuff like "Secret Lovers" and "If Your Heart Isn't In It" any day. I love that sexy 3 a.m. feel of Midnight Star's slow jams and that screaming in the songs.

As for Starpoint, my favorite is "Keep On It" from 1981 with the male vocals. It sounded more like a funk band rather than a solo female artist which is what they eventually ended up sounding like.

I think you're forgetting about all those other great slow jams that Atlantic Starr had in the early 80s: "Send For Me","Am I Dreaming","Let's Get Closer","Love Me Down","More And More",etc.

These songs are sexy and soulful,unlike some of the pop stuff that came later (such as the awful "Secret Lovers")

nod Don't forget "Touch a Four Leaf Clover", their last one that featured Sharon. Honestly, I can't see anybody over 25 bumping "Always", "All in the Name of Love", "Love Crazy" or "Secret Lovers".

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Reply #56 posted 01/16/12 1:34pm

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nod music love that song!

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Reply #57 posted 01/16/12 1:47pm

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Timmy84 said:

SoulAlive said:

I think you're forgetting about all those other great slow jams that Atlantic Starr had in the early 80s: "Send For Me","Am I Dreaming","Let's Get Closer","Love Me Down","More And More",etc.

These songs are sexy and soulful,unlike some of the pop stuff that came later (such as the awful "Secret Lovers")

nod Don't forget "Touch a Four Leaf Clover", their last one that featured Sharon. Honestly, I can't see anybody over 25 bumping "Always", "All in the Name of Love", "Love Crazy" or "Secret Lovers".

You know what Timmy, considering those crossover hits, one might say that they're not really "Unsung." I mean, they had their share of crossover appeal to the masses. They were like the precursor of the LaFace sound that would come later in the 80's.

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Reply #58 posted 01/16/12 1:48pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:

nod Don't forget "Touch a Four Leaf Clover", their last one that featured Sharon. Honestly, I can't see anybody over 25 bumping "Always", "All in the Name of Love", "Love Crazy" or "Secret Lovers".

You know what Timmy, considering those crossover hits, one might say that they're not really "Unsung." I mean, they had their share of crossover appeal to the masses. They were like the precursor of the LaFace sound that would come later in the 80's.

They're "unsung" for their pre-crossover years. biggrin

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Reply #59 posted 01/16/12 1:55pm

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Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

You know what Timmy, considering those crossover hits, one might say that they're not really "Unsung." I mean, they had their share of crossover appeal to the masses. They were like the precursor of the LaFace sound that would come later in the 80's.

They're "unsung" for their pre-crossover years. biggrin

I guess you're right lol

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