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Thread started 02/17/03 10:57pm

Sdldawn

What the heck happened to George M.?

Honestly, someone has got to know some information on what the heck George Michael is doin?

First I hear he "Bought/Borrowed" John Lennons piano to make a cd.. bout 8 months later, he releases Freeek.. Which is a useless attempt to get back on the radio, plus the song flat out gets old, it sucks to be honest..

Then to make things worse, he tries to get half way political on his lame ass Shoot The Dog, that just sucked, and no'one cares what he really thinks, just make good music.. The cd was supposed to be released in late 2002.. now there isnt even a trace of a new cd..

I hate to just "dog" the guy for what he does, but I've listened to his music for quit some time, and really was interested in what music he was making for the new album..

Has he just given up?
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Reply #1 posted 02/17/03 11:39pm

Sandra

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Stop that Right now, why are you being so hard on George wink .. I know a lot of people think Freeek! and Shoot the dog is bad song, but I seriously like them.. I know its not the best thing GM has done, NOT AT ALL he has done a lot better and we all know how talented he is.. His two last singles videos are just funny and hilarious! lol I agree he should start releasing something quick otherwise he'll be forgotten or something like that.. "Its better to burn out, than fade away" (I think Kurt Cobain said this).. I dont know why he hasn't released the album he has been talking about for a year now confuse In the beginning he had some problems with different record-companies..

I dont think he has given up, NOT AT ALL.. he must have some good reasons for not releasing the album as promised.. I'm pretty sure he hasn't given up, that would be a shame!!!
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Reply #2 posted 02/17/03 11:47pm

mistermaxxx

George Michael Can't get a Fair Shake&it's a Shame because the Cat is Still Badd&He could easily blow up&Make Quality Music again.but I think the Business like alot of Cats has Broken His Spirits a bit IMHO.
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Reply #3 posted 02/18/03 12:32am

ecnirpnz

George Michael has MAD potential. If you listen to his post-Wham albums (all 3 of them, excluding SFTLC), they're all fairly good albums. He needs to stick with adult-orientated stuff, and more shit like Fastlove and the rest of the Older album.

I still believe he has the potential to make a truly great album, if he just put his mind to it. It's like he's made his millions and now he's resting on his laurels.

I want songs of the calibre of Cowboys And Angels, Kissing A Fool, Star People, Spinning The Wheel...

Who's wants to listen to an ageing pop star sing a song like Freeek? He's always gonna lose to Justin Timberlake and all the other young guns on the scene. Stick with what you do best, man!

I feel better now.
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Reply #4 posted 02/18/03 3:23am

nas3110

Sdldawn said:

Honestly, someone has got to know some information on what the heck George Michael is doin?

First I hear he "Bought/Borrowed" John Lennons piano to make a cd.. bout 8 months later, he releases Freeek.. Which is a useless attempt to get back on the radio, plus the song flat out gets old, it sucks to be honest..

Then to make things worse, he tries to get half way political on his lame ass Shoot The Dog, that just sucked, and no'one cares what he really thinks, just make good music.. The cd was supposed to be released in late 2002.. now there isnt even a trace of a new cd..

I hate to just "dog" the guy for what he does, but I've listened to his music for quit some time, and really was interested in what music he was making for the new album..

Has he just given up?



I hope not. George is always worth listening to. Even his dodgy stuff. Like you I was waiting for that new album he was supposed to be releasing last year. Let's hope he releases it this year.
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Reply #5 posted 02/18/03 4:41am

Marrk

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He'll be performing a re-worked,anti-War version of 'Faith' with Ms Dynamite at the Brit awards in a couple of weeks.could be interesting.
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Reply #6 posted 02/18/03 5:19am

Brother915

If GM had more recordings out there{given the great songs that he has written}, I think he would be amongst some of the greatest songwriters of all time. His output has been so little though. Faith is just a brillant album. His Listen Without Prejudice was pretty good. I thought Olderwas excellent...one of the best recordings of 1996.

He's a marvel of a talent...Play that funky music white boy!!!lol
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Reply #7 posted 02/18/03 5:40am

Essence

Marrk said:

He'll be performing a re-worked,anti-War version of 'Faith' with Ms Dynamite at the Brit awards in a couple of weeks.could be interesting.


In a couple of weeks? The Brits is aired on ITV this Thursday for one thing and that's pre-recorded.
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Reply #8 posted 02/18/03 9:18am

thedoorkeeper

There was supposed to be a new cd around right about now but there is no word since late 2002.
Older was great. Can't believe it was released in'96. 7 years & no new material except for 2 singles.
I've heard he likes his weed. Maybe thats slowing him down.
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Reply #9 posted 02/18/03 4:56pm

ZAZA2

According to a G. Michael website he will be performing via satellite from L.A. with Ms. Dynamite who will be in the UK. They are also trying to get Pink & Emminem to do a duet.
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Reply #10 posted 02/18/03 11:25pm

Sandra

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ZAZA2 said:

According to a G. Michael website he will be performing via satellite from L.A. with Ms. Dynamite who will be in the UK. They are also trying to get Pink & Emminem to do a duet.


:OMG:
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Reply #11 posted 02/19/03 1:02am

abierman

so last century...
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Reply #12 posted 02/19/03 1:06am

TheJoker

SDLDawn -> before you trash, let's see you write, record and produce a song that would top the charts this day in age!

I grant you that "Freeek" & "Shoot The Dog" are not classic George Michael (and they may not end up on any future Mega Greatest Hits package), but the guy is trying various things he hasn't before.

The wonderful thing about art is seeing how it's created and enjoying the finished product. Like Prince, George has still got a lot of gems in there...you'll see.

Otherwise, change your interest and don't diss for the heck of it - it's boring.
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Reply #13 posted 02/19/03 4:19am

Marrk

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Essence said:

Marrk said:

He'll be performing a re-worked,anti-War version of 'Faith' with Ms Dynamite at the Brit awards in a couple of weeks.could be interesting.


In a couple of weeks? The Brits is aired on ITV this Thursday for one thing and that's pre-recorded.


um. yeah i realised that this morning.Shows you how much i care about it.
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Reply #14 posted 02/19/03 5:34am

abierman

TheJoker said:

SDLDawn -> before you trash, let's see you write, record and produce a song that would top the charts this day in age!

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shouldn't be that hard, if you take a look (listen) to what's dominating the charts nowadays!

Let's face it, GM lost most of his female fanbase after the Beverley Hills restroom incident! Women felt betrayed! Hetero-sexual guys generally do not identify with gay singers, so they abandoned him as well. Bye bye controversy and career. But GM still sees himself as a real artist rather than a 80's heart-trob who secretly adores little boys...
Then he decides to comeback in 2002, with the laughable singer 'Freeek' the video is even more ridiculous!
Then he makes a political song, 'Shoot The Dog' GM was never politically engaged but he needed the attention. The song is lame and a mess. What is even worse was the video, I don't think GM saw that one coming! But the video wasn't funny! And the song was crap!

No, GM is done with and hopefully he'll never bother us again!
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Reply #15 posted 02/19/03 6:05am

FreezerBurn

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mistermaxxx said:

George Michael Can't get a Fair Shake

That is an interesting choice of words considering the bathroom story.
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Reply #16 posted 02/19/03 6:07am

FreezerBurn

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TheJoker said:

SDLDawn -> before you trash, let's see you write, record and produce a song that would top the charts this day in age!

So you think people should never criticize music unless they can do it better? Well I hope you either love all music then or you are an outstanding musician.
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Reply #17 posted 02/19/03 11:24am

IAM

george is the man. his latest efforts have really sucked but i buy whatever he puts out to support him. for some people too much time inbetween releases tends to be a bad thing. even the remixes of "shoot" and "freek" were lame. maybe he's just uninspired...
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Reply #18 posted 02/19/03 11:42am

Essence

Marrk said:

Essence said:

Marrk said:

He'll be performing a re-worked,anti-War version of 'Faith' with Ms Dynamite at the Brit awards in a couple of weeks.could be interesting.


In a couple of weeks? The Brits is aired on ITV this Thursday for one thing and that's pre-recorded.


um. yeah i realised that this morning.Shows you how much i care about it.


Right, last time I paid attention to the Brits was in 97 with P lip-synching his way through Emancipation. Just knew it was this week. There was that time Jarvis Cocker flashed his behind during MJ's performance too I guess...
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Reply #19 posted 02/19/03 11:47am

Essence

abierman said:

TheJoker said:

SDLDawn -> before you trash, let's see you write, record and produce a song that would top the charts this day in age!

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shouldn't be that hard, if you take a look (listen) to what's dominating the charts nowadays!

Let's face it, GM lost most of his female fanbase after the Beverley Hills restroom incident! Women felt betrayed! Hetero-sexual guys generally do not identify with gay singers, so they abandoned him as well. Bye bye controversy and career. But GM still sees himself as a real artist rather than a 80's heart-trob who secretly adores little boys...
Then he decides to comeback in 2002, with the laughable singer 'Freeek' the video is even more ridiculous!
Then he makes a political song, 'Shoot The Dog' GM was never politically engaged but he needed the attention. The song is lame and a mess. What is even worse was the video, I don't think GM saw that one coming! But the video wasn't funny! And the song was crap!

No, GM is done with and hopefully he'll never bother us again!


I disagree, the sad thing is that he or anyone else had to stay in the closet for fear of a damaged career. I want the genuine real deal, not fake karaoke sentiment. When George is singing "Jesus To a Child" to a lost male lover that's a beautiful song with authentic emotion.
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Reply #20 posted 02/19/03 2:22pm

mistermaxxx

FreezerBurn said:

mistermaxxx said:

George Michael Can't get a Fair Shake

That is an interesting choice of words considering the bathroom story.
think about the fact He was the First SuperStar in the Early 90's that Took on His Record Company&also took them to COurt.it Cost Him Dearly&that is why I said that.the BathRoom Thing didn't Hurt Him One way or the Other really.
mistermaxxx
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Reply #21 posted 02/19/03 2:42pm

thedoorkeeper

Was anyone surprised when it was revealed he was gay?
He spelled it out in his songs - particularly on the Older CD - that he was gay.
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Reply #22 posted 02/19/03 10:02pm

TheJoker

Essence said:

abierman said:

TheJoker said:

SDLDawn -> before you trash, let's see you write, record and produce a song that would top the charts this day in age!

.



shouldn't be that hard, if you take a look (listen) to what's dominating the charts nowadays!

Let's face it, GM lost most of his female fanbase after the Beverley Hills restroom incident! Women felt betrayed! Hetero-sexual guys generally do not identify with gay singers, so they abandoned him as well. Bye bye controversy and career. But GM still sees himself as a real artist rather than a 80's heart-trob who secretly adores little boys...
Then he decides to comeback in 2002, with the laughable singer 'Freeek' the video is even more ridiculous!
Then he makes a political song, 'Shoot The Dog' GM was never politically engaged but he needed the attention. The song is lame and a mess. What is even worse was the video, I don't think GM saw that one coming! But the video wasn't funny! And the song was crap!

No, GM is done with and hopefully he'll never bother us again!


I disagree, the sad thing is that he or anyone else had to stay in the closet for fear of a damaged career. I want the genuine real deal, not fake karaoke sentiment. When George is singing "Jesus To a Child" to a lost male lover that's a beautiful song with authentic emotion.


<- Thank YOU! Finally someone who knows a genuine artist when they hear one! Latest efforts by George are probably not among his best; but as I said, there's more gems in there. You've stuck by Prince and it's been the same story in many ways - he's had some tunes I am CERTAIN you haven't dug (which flopped commercially)...and then suddenly, he releases something which knocks you on your ass.

I commend George for trying not to make his sexuality an issue by hiding and protecting it. Why should he be made to tell us EVERYTHING that goes on in his life?! Does it make him any less of a talented musician/songwriter? I think not. It's plain to see there are some pro-Bush Americans here and prejudiced ones at that (homophobes, etc.), so I will say no more.
!uoy ytip I
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Reply #23 posted 02/20/03 12:58am

abierman

TheJoker said:

It's plain to see there are some pro-Bush Americans here and prejudiced ones at that (homophobes, etc.), so I will say no more.
!uoy ytip I



I take it you are not talking about me? I mean I am not american, and certainly not pro-Bush and I live in the one European city with probably the most liberal attitude toward homosexuals!
!rekcufrehtom latnemegduj

Thank you!
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Reply #24 posted 02/20/03 2:00am

TheJoker

I take it you are not talking about me? I mean I am not american, and certainly not pro-Bush and I live in the one European city with probably the most liberal attitude toward homosexuals!
!rekcufrehtom latnemegduj

Thank you!
[This message was edited Thu Feb 20 1:02:42 PST 2003 by abierman]
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smile I apologise.
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Reply #25 posted 02/20/03 2:12am

Sandra

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TheJoker said:

I take it you are not talking about me? I mean I am not american, and certainly not pro-Bush and I live in the one European city with probably the most liberal attitude toward homosexuals!
!rekcufrehtom latnemegduj

Thank you!
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smile I apologise.[/quote]


TheJoker.. LOVE YOUR AVATAR!!!
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Reply #26 posted 02/20/03 2:42am

abierman

TheJoker said:

I take it you are not talking about me? I mean I am not american, and certainly not pro-Bush and I live in the one European city with probably the most liberal attitude toward homosexuals!
!rekcufrehtom latnemegduj

Thank you!
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smile I apologise.[/quote]


okay nod
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Reply #27 posted 02/20/03 2:45am

Mr7

I think he just branched off in a few wrong directions, and unfortunately as they were the first 2 singles it kind of stalled the album a little.

I think he'll return when 'Shoot the dog' has faded from peoples memories.

He just needs to put out another tight, melodic song and remind people of what he does best.
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Reply #28 posted 02/20/03 8:36am

UptownDeb

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He just needs to put out another tight, melodic song and remind people of what he does best.


Eggs-xaaactly! I wish he'd cover Peter Brown's "Do You Wanna Get Funky with Me?" Listening to the extended version of this old school track I couldn't help thinking "George Michael would have a hit if he covered this!" I don't know if "melodic" describes it best, but it is funky. And George knows funky! biggrin
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Reply #29 posted 02/20/03 10:20am

Cloudbuster

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George gets a big kiss from me. Love the man.
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