JoeTyler said:

this whole thread = bad joke

I can't believe that so many Janet fans fell right into the trap They allowed this thread to turn into a Rihanna vs.Janet thread.A legendary artist with numerous hit singles and awards does not be "defended".Her record can speak for itself.

SoulAlive said:

JoeTyler said:

this whole thread = bad joke

I can't believe that so many Janet fans fell right into the trap They allowed this thread to turn into a Rihanna vs.Janet thread.A legendary artist with numerous hit singles and awards does not be "defended".Her record can speak for itself.

See, that's all you, Janet fans, talk about: her hit singles and awards. Let's talk about talent, shall we?

Vocal talent: below average

Dance talent: below average

Songwriting talent: a little bit above average

Musicianship: LOL!

NaQu said:

aardvark15 said:

She is a genius. You may think it's fabricated pop because, let's face it, about every female star nowadays takes from Janet in one way or another. Yes Janet doesn't have the best pipes but she's better than Madonna. She is a genius. Listen To Black Cat. Produced, written ect. by Janet. JUST Janet. Janet's lyrics are genius. She doesn't just do pop either. Changing from r&B to pop to techno to dance to hip-hop. There's tons more. Then there's stuff that only someone like Miss Jackson, to cause your nasty, could do like If. I have yet to have heard anything that sounds like If. Either you haven't heard her music, or your one of those people who work for Rolling Stone and think that Madonna is amazing at singing and is a musical genius, as well as thinking that rappers are genius (even though they don't make up their own music usually) and give their albums around 5 stars, while giving people like Janet, MJ, and Amy Winehouse "okay" reviews.

Trying a little hard there, kiddo. Jam & Lewis (and maybe Rene Elizando) were the true geniuses behind Janet's former success, not her. Everything she's done that didn't involve them has basically sucked and/or flopped. So what does that say? That last album "Discipline" was every bit as puppet mastered as the average Rihanna album, the only difference is that it didn't spin off any real hits. Janet is no genius. She was just lucky to emerge during a better time in music (and to at one point have a team in place that knew how to camaflauge her weaknesses under overproduction and extravagent videos...sort of like Rihanna today) - so if nothing else she gets window dressing points for that. And to say she doesn't have the best pipes is an understatement. Quite frankly she's a wretched singer. As much as I don't like Rihanna or her music, vocally she's a few pegs better than Janet.

[Edited 11/5/11 8:41am]

Oh its you, your troll wrinkly ass is still here... sigh... I find it VERY funny how you are comparing Rihanna and Janet like they are the same which is obsurd and disrespectful to the impact Janet has made and to HER TALENTS which she has been doing since she was 7 years old.

No, Janet is not a musical genius and her pipes are average. HOWEVER, she has for the most part a fairly good catalogue of classics and material. During her prime, she made some of the most social conscious pop music and with the producers that you mentioned was able to experiement with a varity of genres that made a big impact on pop music during the time and even now. ALOT of things that you are giving Jimmy and Terry were not all on them and is not why Janet is an Icon.

Alot of Janets material.. Janet has had a hand in writing and collaborating. Also, in the central themes of her albums that was all her. Most of her albums consisted what she was going through personally at the time and things that she came up with herself. So please stop ranting that Jimmy and Terry came up with all the concepts musically because that is not true. Janet even had input in the styles of music and artists she wanted to collab with.. ex. Joni Mitchell, Opera singers etc... You insisting that Janet was some kind of puppet like Rihanna is obsurd because she had full control over where she wanted to take her projects and the material that she covered. She came up with concepts such as spousal abuse, homosexuality, bi sexuality, depression, sex, political, world issues etc... NOT Jimmy or Terry.. those concepts and themes have alot to do with why Janet is an Icon and this is only scratching the surface because I havent even talked about her impact as a performer...

There has been no female pop singer over the last 30 years that has made a profound impact as a performer as Janet has. If you look at the pop artists now, they mirror off of what Janet did in her performances. There has also been no pop singer over the 30 years that has come close to Janet as a dancer. She IS the best technical non professional dancer of her period and even of this generation.. no one touches her.. no question. Alot of her world tours, performances, dances influences the structure of choregraphy and dance.. such as Rhythm Nation with militant movements etc.... is or has Rihanna done any of that? Do you think Rihanna is a better dancer than Janet? You need to sit down some where with that BULLLLSHIT.

Also, while not oscar winning, she is a descent actress and alot better than many actors/actresses.

Find you think she is a weak singer... but you must be pissy drunk or the marbles in your head are not screwed onupstairs to deny Janets impact as a performer and her classics that still influence,impact and get played today which she deserves every bit of and worked much harder than half these artists out now did.

Going by your logic artists like Bob Dylan are a waste if because they are weak vocally.. everything else about their other talents mean nothing especially when they have made BIG impacts with those other talents. I dont think anyone came in here and said Janet was the greatest singer of all time.

This thread is so dumb along with your loud talking to yourself rants.. take you them out along with you..

[Edited 11/5/11 10:16am]

ComputerBlueSpain said:

SoulAlive said:

I can't believe that so many Janet fans fell right into the trap They allowed this thread to turn into a Rihanna vs.Janet thread.A legendary artist with numerous hit singles and awards does not be "defended".Her record can speak for itself.

See, that's all you, Janet fans, talk about: her hit singles and awards. Let's talk about talent, shall we?

Vocal talent: below average

Dance talent: below average

Songwriting talent: a little bit above average

Musicianship: LOL!

Now that is a DAMN lie and you know it

aardvark15 said:

Dewrede said:

And ?

Is that supposed to be a bad thing ?

Why is Janet supposed to be more succesful ?

Both are mediocre singers and both sing bland , fabricated pop music

You're acting as if Janet is some kind of genius

[Edited 11/5/11 2:14am]

She is a genius. You may think it's fabricated pop because, let's face it, about every female star nowadays takes from Janet in one way or another. Yes Janet doesn't have the best pipes but she's better than Madonna. She is a genius. Listen To Black Cat. Produced, written ect. by Janet. JUST Janet. Janet's lyrics are genius. She doesn't just do pop either. Changing from r&B to pop to techno to dance to hip-hop. There's tons more. Then there's stuff that only someone like Miss Jackson, to cause your nasty, could do like If. I have yet to have heard anything that sounds like If. Either you haven't heard her music, or your one of those people who work for Rolling Stone and think that Madonna is amazing at singing and is a musical genius, as well as thinking that rappers are genius (even though they don't make up their own music usually) and give their albums around 5 stars, while giving people like Janet, MJ, and Amy Winehouse "okay" reviews.

ok i didn't know she writes her own songs

The only song that I know Janet has written on her own is "Black Cat". Otherwise, she has co-written her songs. She's a decent songwriter but she is not a genius songwriter by any means. Stop it lol. Certainly better than Rihanna though.

As a dancer, performer and yes vocalist I find Janet to be above average. It's not about her awards or hits. Janet is one of the best and most charismatic entertainers around. Her music is great too. Janet is talented. If she was such a puppet for Jimmy Jam and Terry as some like to say, why haven't they had that same kind of success with anyone else?

Right, that's because Janet had a lot to do with her success. She's more talented and influential than people like to give her credit for.

It makes no sense to compare Janet to Rihanna to be honest. Janet is an icon who has a great music catalogue and who has proven herself long ago.

I do like Rihanna somewhat. Her music is catchy but mostly forgettable and she's one of the WORST performers i've ever seen. Always looking bored and stiff on stage.

Rihanna is still a rookie and has a long way to go.

mjscarousal said:

NaQu said:

Trying a little hard there, kiddo. Jam & Lewis (and maybe Rene Elizando) were the true geniuses behind Janet's former success, not her. Everything she's done that didn't involve them has basically sucked and/or flopped. So what does that say? That last album "Discipline" was every bit as puppet mastered as the average Rihanna album, the only difference is that it didn't spin off any real hits. Janet is no genius. She was just lucky to emerge during a better time in music (and to at one point have a team in place that knew how to camaflauge her weaknesses under overproduction and extravagent videos...sort of like Rihanna today) - so if nothing else she gets window dressing points for that. And to say she doesn't have the best pipes is an understatement. Quite frankly she's a wretched singer. As much as I don't like Rihanna or her music, vocally she's a few pegs better than Janet.

[Edited 11/5/11 8:41am]

Oh its you, your troll wrinkly ass is still here... sigh... I find it VERY funny how you are comparing Rihanna and Janet like they are the same which is obsurd and disrespectful to the impact Janet has made and to HER TALENTS which she has been doing since she was 7 years old.

No, Janet is not a musical genius and her pipes are average. HOWEVER, she has for the most part a fairly good catalogue of classics and material. During her prime, she made some of the most social conscious pop music and with the producers that you mentioned was able to experiement with a varity of genres that made a big impact on pop music during the time and even now. ALOT of things that you are giving Jimmy and Terry were not all on them and is not why Janet is an Icon.

Alot of Janets material.. Janet has had a hand in writing and collaborating. Also, in the central themes of her albums that was all her. Most of her albums consisted what she was going through personally at the time and things that she came up with herself. So please stop ranting that Jimmy and Terry came up with all the concepts musically because that is not true. Janet even had input in the styles of music and artists she wanted to collab with.. ex. Joni Mitchell, Opera singers etc... You insisting that Janet was some kind of puppet like Rihanna is obsurd because she had full control over where she wanted to take her projects and the material that she covered. She came up with concepts such as spousal abuse, homosexuality, bi sexuality, depression, sex, political, world issues etc... NOT Jimmy or Terry.. those concepts and themes have alot to do with why Janet is an Icon and this is only scratching the surface because I havent even talked about her impact as a performer...

There has been no female pop singer over the last 30 years that has made a profound impact as a performer as Janet has. If you look at the pop artists now, they mirror off of what Janet did in her performances. There has also been no pop singer over the 30 years that has come close to Janet as a dancer. She IS the best technical non professional dancer of her period and even of this generation.. no one touches her.. no question. Alot of her world tours, performances, dances influences the structure of choregraphy and dance.. such as Rhythm Nation with militant movements etc.... is or has Rihanna done any of that? Do you think Rihanna is a better dancer than Janet? You need to sit down some where with that BULLLLSHIT.

Also, while not oscar winning, she is a descent actress and alot better than many actors/actresses.

Find you think she is a weak singer... but you must be pissy drunk or the marbles in your head are not screwed onupstairs to deny Janets impact as a performer and her classics that still influence,impact and get played today which she deserves every bit of and worked much harder than half these artists out now did.

Going by your logic artists like Bob Dylan are a waste if because they are weak vocally.. everything else about their other talents mean nothing especially when they have made BIG impacts with those other talents. I dont think anyone came in here and said Janet was the greatest singer of all time.

This thread is so dumb along with your loud talking to yourself rants.. take you them out along with you..

[Edited 11/5/11 10:16am]

You are so cute with your silly little arrogant attitude, remedial spelling and grammatical flubs, all while throwing a long-winded temper tantrum; thinking that you are actually running a check on someone.

Just adorable.

[Edited 11/5/11 10:43am]

SoulAlive said:

JoeTyler said:

this whole thread = bad joke

I can't believe that so many Janet fans fell right into the trap They allowed this thread to turn into a Rihanna vs.Janet thread.A legendary artist with numerous hit singles and awards does not be "defended".Her record can speak for itself.

we're talking about a member of the JACKSON family here. Jackson's hardcore fans are ... nevermind :lol

NaQu said:

mjscarousal said:

Oh its you, your troll wrinkly ass is still here... sigh... I find it VERY funny how you are comparing Rihanna and Janet like they are the same which is obsurd and disrespectful to the impact Janet has made and to HER TALENTS which she has been doing since she was 7 years old.

No, Janet is not a musical genius and her pipes are average. HOWEVER, she has for the most part a fairly good catalogue of classics and material. During her prime, she made some of the most social conscious pop music and with the producers that you mentioned was able to experiement with a varity of genres that made a big impact on pop music during the time and even now. ALOT of things that you are giving Jimmy and Terry were not all on them and is not why Janet is an Icon.

Alot of Janets material.. Janet has had a hand in writing and collaborating. Also, in the central themes of her albums that was all her. Most of her albums consisted what she was going through personally at the time and things that she came up with herself. So please stop ranting that Jimmy and Terry came up with all the concepts musically because that is not true. Janet even had input in the styles of music and artists she wanted to collab with.. ex. Joni Mitchell, Opera singers etc... You insisting that Janet was some kind of puppet like Rihanna is obsurd because she had full control over where she wanted to take her projects and the material that she covered. She came up with concepts such as spousal abuse, homosexuality, bi sexuality, depression, sex, political, world issues etc... NOT Jimmy or Terry.. those concepts and themes have alot to do with why Janet is an Icon and this is only scratching the surface because I havent even talked about her impact as a performer...

There has been no female pop singer over the last 30 years that has made a profound impact as a performer as Janet has. If you look at the pop artists now, they mirror off of what Janet did in her performances. There has also been no pop singer over the 30 years that has come close to Janet as a dancer. She IS the best technical non professional dancer of her period and even of this generation.. no one touches her.. no question. Alot of her world tours, performances, dances influences the structure of choregraphy and dance.. such as Rhythm Nation with militant movements etc.... is or has Rihanna done any of that? Do you think Rihanna is a better dancer than Janet? You need to sit down some where with that BULLLLSHIT.

Also, while not oscar winning, she is a descent actress and alot better than many actors/actresses.

Find you think she is a weak singer... but you must be pissy drunk or the marbles in your head are not screwed onupstairs to deny Janets impact as a performer and her classics that still influence,impact and get played today which she deserves every bit of and worked much harder than half these artists out now did.

Going by your logic artists like Bob Dylan are a waste if because they are weak vocally.. everything else about their other talents mean nothing especially when they have made BIG impacts with those other talents. I dont think anyone came in here and said Janet was the greatest singer of all time.

This thread is so dumb along with your loud talking to yourself rants.. take you them out along with you..

[Edited 11/5/11 10:16am]

You are so cute with your silly little arrogant attitude, remedial spelling and grammatical flubs, all while throwing a long-winded temper tantrum; thinking that you are actually running a check on someone.

Just adorable.

[Edited 11/5/11 10:43am]

Has Dora walked by the bridge yet Troll?

mjscarousal said:

NaQu said:

Trying a little hard there, kiddo. Jam & Lewis (and maybe Rene Elizando) were the true geniuses behind Janet's former success, not her. Everything she's done that didn't involve them has basically sucked and/or flopped. So what does that say? That last album "Discipline" was every bit as puppet mastered as the average Rihanna album, the only difference is that it didn't spin off any real hits. Janet is no genius. She was just lucky to emerge during a better time in music (and to at one point have a team in place that knew how to camaflauge her weaknesses under overproduction and extravagent videos...sort of like Rihanna today) - so if nothing else she gets window dressing points for that. And to say she doesn't have the best pipes is an understatement. Quite frankly she's a wretched singer. As much as I don't like Rihanna or her music, vocally she's a few pegs better than Janet.

[Edited 11/5/11 8:41am]

Oh its you, your troll wrinkly ass is still here... sigh... I find it VERY funny how you are comparing Rihanna and Janet like they are the same which is obsurd and disrespectful to the impact Janet has made and to HER TALENTS which she has been doing since she was 7 years old.

No, Janet is not a musical genius and her pipes are average. HOWEVER, she has for the most part a fairly good catalogue of classics and material. During her prime, she made some of the most social conscious pop music and with the producers that you mentioned was able to experiement with a varity of genres that made a big impact on pop music during the time and even now. ALOT of things that you are giving Jimmy and Terry were not all on them and is not why Janet is an Icon.

Alot of Janets material.. Janet has had a hand in writing and collaborating. Also, in the central themes of her albums that was all her. Most of her albums consisted what she was going through personally at the time and things that she came up with herself. So please stop ranting that Jimmy and Terry came up with all the concepts musically because that is not true. Janet even had input in the styles of music and artists she wanted to collab with.. ex. Joni Mitchell, Opera singers etc... You insisting that Janet was some kind of puppet like Rihanna is obsurd because she had full control over where she wanted to take her projects and the material that she covered. She came up with concepts such as spousal abuse, homosexuality, bi sexuality, depression, sex, political, world issues etc... NOT Jimmy or Terry.. those concepts and themes have alot to do with why Janet is an Icon and this is only scratching the surface because I havent even talked about her impact as a performer...

There has been no female pop singer over the last 30 years that has made a profound impact as a performer as Janet has. If you look at the pop artists now, they mirror off of what Janet did in her performances. There has also been no pop singer over the 30 years that has come close to Janet as a dancer. She IS the best technical non professional dancer of her period and even of this generation.. no one touches her.. no question. Alot of her world tours, performances, dances influences the structure of choregraphy and dance.. such as Rhythm Nation with militant movements etc.... is or has Rihanna done any of that? Do you think Rihanna is a better dancer than Janet? You need to sit down some where with that BULLLLSHIT.

Also, while not oscar winning, she is a descent actress and alot better than many actors/actresses.

Find you think she is a weak singer... but you must be pissy drunk or the marbles in your head are not screwed onupstairs to deny Janets impact as a performer and her classics that still influence,impact and get played today which she deserves every bit of and worked much harder than half these artists out now did.

Going by your logic artists like Bob Dylan are a waste if because they are weak vocally.. everything else about their other talents mean nothing especially when they have made BIG impacts with those other talents. I dont think anyone came in here and said Janet was the greatest singer of all time.

This thread is so dumb along with your loud talking to yourself rants.. take you them out along with you..

[Edited 11/5/11 10:16am]

you're both trying too hard

NaQu said:

mjscarousal said:

Oh its you, your troll wrinkly ass is still here... sigh... I find it VERY funny how you are comparing Rihanna and Janet like they are the same which is obsurd and disrespectful to the impact Janet has made and to HER TALENTS which she has been doing since she was 7 years old.

No, Janet is not a musical genius and her pipes are average. HOWEVER, she has for the most part a fairly good catalogue of classics and material. During her prime, she made some of the most social conscious pop music and with the producers that you mentioned was able to experiement with a varity of genres that made a big impact on pop music during the time and even now. ALOT of things that you are giving Jimmy and Terry were not all on them and is not why Janet is an Icon.

Alot of Janets material.. Janet has had a hand in writing and collaborating. Also, in the central themes of her albums that was all her. Most of her albums consisted what she was going through personally at the time and things that she came up with herself. So please stop ranting that Jimmy and Terry came up with all the concepts musically because that is not true. Janet even had input in the styles of music and artists she wanted to collab with.. ex. Joni Mitchell, Opera singers etc... You insisting that Janet was some kind of puppet like Rihanna is obsurd because she had full control over where she wanted to take her projects and the material that she covered. She came up with concepts such as spousal abuse, homosexuality, bi sexuality, depression, sex, political, world issues etc... NOT Jimmy or Terry.. those concepts and themes have alot to do with why Janet is an Icon and this is only scratching the surface because I havent even talked about her impact as a performer...

There has been no female pop singer over the last 30 years that has made a profound impact as a performer as Janet has. If you look at the pop artists now, they mirror off of what Janet did in her performances. There has also been no pop singer over the 30 years that has come close to Janet as a dancer. She IS the best technical non professional dancer of her period and even of this generation.. no one touches her.. no question. Alot of her world tours, performances, dances influences the structure of choregraphy and dance.. such as Rhythm Nation with militant movements etc.... is or has Rihanna done any of that? Do you think Rihanna is a better dancer than Janet? You need to sit down some where with that BULLLLSHIT.

Also, while not oscar winning, she is a descent actress and alot better than many actors/actresses.

Find you think she is a weak singer... but you must be pissy drunk or the marbles in your head are not screwed onupstairs to deny Janets impact as a performer and her classics that still influence,impact and get played today which she deserves every bit of and worked much harder than half these artists out now did.

Going by your logic artists like Bob Dylan are a waste if because they are weak vocally.. everything else about their other talents mean nothing especially when they have made BIG impacts with those other talents. I dont think anyone came in here and said Janet was the greatest singer of all time.

This thread is so dumb along with your loud talking to yourself rants.. take you them out along with you..

[Edited 11/5/11 10:16am]

You are so cute with your silly little arrogant attitude, remedial spelling and grammatical flubs, all while throwing a long-winded temper tantrum; thinking that you are actually running a check on someone.

Just adorable.

[Edited 11/5/11 10:43am]

Your the funniest person in this thread. You should be laughing at yourself ALONG with your other troll buddies LOL

LOL Baiting a thread, Stalking a thread, discussing an artist you dont even like and making dumb points that dont even make sense.

Your constant rants and arguements are beyond laughable but if it makes you sleep better at night so be it.

I'm not the one going in circles with rants comparing an ICON to a mediocre singer if it kills me

It just shows you dont like Janet and that you desperately want to defend a no talent hack compared to her.

Its only entertainment for all of us... keep the show going your on a roll...

Somebody come in here and lock this thread pleasseee This is beyond ridiculous now...

NewPowerSista said:

musicjunky318 said:

Just wait until 6th grade is over Ima blow all these hoes out the water. Come see me in 10 years.

LOL! LOVE IT!!

LMFBAO!!!

JoeTyler said:

SoulAlive said:

I can't believe that so many Janet fans fell right into the trap They allowed this thread to turn into a Rihanna vs.Janet thread.A legendary artist with numerous hit singles and awards does not be "defended".Her record can speak for itself.

we're talking about a member of the JACKSON family here. Jackson's hardcore fans are ... nevermind :lol

Never mess with Jackson family fans. They're as delusional as their idols who, by the way, are constantly trying to scam and extort them. But the Jfam fans love it! There's a reason as to why they are usually refered as the "fucking lunatics" or "floons". Starting with Father of the Year Joe, going to Criminal Randy, Low-life Tito (the rest apply to this section as well), Peter Pan Michael and Crazy Latoya, you know the Jacksons are idol material!!!

I do, however, like Michael who, it seems to me, is the only one in the family capable of human feelings.

alphastreet said:

Where's the love for Jody and Paula? They also are great female performers. I would have given Rihanna credit, but she is a studio singer with catchy sons and great style that I enjoy. Rookie is the perfect description

I adore Jody and used to like Paula back in her day. Funny how Janet stans like to erroneously argue that they were clones of (or "inspired by") her. Nevermind that both had successful careers before she did. But then again, Janet stans like to think every singer who has a uterus is somehow a clone of Janet.

I heard someone tried using this video in order to convince some mental ayslum into accepting Latoya. Starts at 00:18.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ZRkS5GWj8

SO funny! How far can a human being go to try to get attention and how deteriorated is Latoya's sanity.

alphastreet said:

Where's the love for Jody and Paula? They also are great female performers. I would have given Rihanna credit, but she is a studio singer with catchy sons and great style that I enjoy. Rookie is the perfect description

Given Rihanna credit for what exactly?

Paula was behind alot of the iconic choregraphy Janet did.. I have no problem giving credit where it is due. However, while good dancers, they were not pop stars in the sense Janet was which is why I made a distinction when I said that Janet has been the best POP star unprofessional technical dancer over the last 30 years. Paula was a trained dancer... Janet wasnt which is a difference

[Edited 11/5/11 13:50pm]

She also shows her tits more.

NaQu said:

alphastreet said:

Where's the love for Jody and Paula? They also are great female performers. I would have given Rihanna credit, but she is a studio singer with catchy sons and great style that I enjoy. Rookie is the perfect description

I adore Jody and used to like Paula back in her day. Funny how Janet stans like to erroneously argue that they were clones of (or "inspired by") her. Nevermind that both had successful careers before she did. But then again, Janet stans like to think every singer who has a uterus is somehow a clone of Janet.

You really are a silly, misinformed twit. Did I not just give you a lesson a few months ago, at length, about just how Janet's "Control" laid the groundwork for a bevy of dance/pop albums that came after it, including Jody's and Paula's debut solo discs? Janet hasn't inspired every performer with a uterus or a vagina or tits or whatthefuckever, but you can best believe that a bevy of female performers have been inspired by her.

Jody and Paula's careers pre-"Control" have nothing to do with the fact that that album ushered in "Forever Your Girl", "Jody Watley", "Ritual of Love", "The Right Stuff" etc. etc.

alphastreet said:

Where's the love for Jody and Paula? They also are great female performers. I would have given Rihanna credit, but she is a studio singer with catchy sons and great style that I enjoy. Rookie is the perfect description

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[Edited 11/5/11 14:30pm]

RKJCNE said:

alphastreet said:

Where's the love for Jody and Paula? They also are great female performers. I would have given Rihanna credit, but she is a studio singer with catchy sons and great style that I enjoy. Rookie is the perfect description

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[Edited 11/5/11 14:30pm]

OMG u wrong!

Don't smack me over this, but you guys are whining over nothing. I like these two ladies and I think it's great that Rihanna was able to accomplish this. Nothing lasts forever guys.

kiss712 said:

Don't smack me over this, but you guys are whining over nothing. I like these two ladies and I think it's great that Rihanna was able to accomplish this. Nothing lasts forever guys.

I agree, Rihanna's success isn't taking anything away from Janet's legacy.

RKJCNE said:

kiss712 said:

Don't smack me over this, but you guys are whining over nothing. I like these two ladies and I think it's great that Rihanna was able to accomplish this. Nothing lasts forever guys.

I agree, Rihanna's success isn't taking anything away from Janet's legacy.

as you can see by the toll who made this topic, the only problem the Janet fans have is that people seem to think that success=better. Go look at all the Madonna Vs. Janet threads

Thats what I love bout these types of threads, I never know if everyone is just goofin, or if people are taking this shit way too seriously.

RKJCNE said:

kiss712 said:

Don't smack me over this, but you guys are whining over nothing. I like these two ladies and I think it's great that Rihanna was able to accomplish this. Nothing lasts forever guys.

I agree, Rihanna's success isn't taking anything away from Janet's legacy.

I'm not sure if the issue is that people cannot accept change, but rather it seems like Rihanna is so talentless in every area of entertainment imaginable. She cannot sing, she cannot dance and always looks so fake on stage that perhaps it leaves some people a bit bewildered by her success. I think she embodies this generation's belief that even mediocrity can and should be rewarded on the same level as those who are exceptionally talented/gifted. Now that things in society have become so fast, instant, quick and convenient, it basically seems like there's no need for effort to be put into much these days because the quick payoff reward is expected or demanded.

Is Janet a vocal powerhouse? Nope! Is she an amazing performer? YES! Is she talented in other areas of entertainment, such as movies? YES!

Rihanna always looks like she just woke up and remembered, "Oh yeah, I gotta perform a few hours on stage..."

I can't even remember half of those #1's. They are all forgetable besides umbrella.

Pressure said:

I can't even remember half of those #1's. They are all forgetable besides umbrella.

yeah right

SEANMAN said:

RKJCNE said:

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[Edited 11/5/11 14:30pm]

OMG u wrong!

More like "OMG u young!" *waits for mjcarosual's ass whooping*