MrSoulpower said:

Timmy84 said:

I know but it just seemed that way but you're right about Fred. Once he left to join P-Funk, then it really fell apart for JB.

Also, if you look at his output in the 70s, it's much less than in the 60s .. A couple of soundtracks that were mainly done by Fred, a couple of best-of releases and some mish-mash like Hell and Goodfoot. Payback really stands out during that time, while in the years 1966-70, I wouldn't even know what to pick because there's so much and it's all so good ..

lol why wasn't Fred listed as THE producer for James' records? I wonder if that added to the tension between them.

Timmy84 said:

Wasn't dude on the road like 360 days of the year or something? I also recall that when he wasn't touring, he was recording and when he wasn't recording, he was touring, and when he wasn't doing either, he was trying to make business deals and do business and then when he wasn't doing business financially, he was doing business with someone's girl lol dude never had a break!!!

Hmm, kind of sounds like you are describing a diminutive fella from Minneapolis.

Timmy84 said:

MrSoulpower said:

Also, if you look at his output in the 70s, it's much less than in the 60s .. A couple of soundtracks that were mainly done by Fred, a couple of best-of releases and some mish-mash like Hell and Goodfoot. Payback really stands out during that time, while in the years 1966-70, I wouldn't even know what to pick because there's so much and it's all so good ..

lol why wasn't Fred listed as THE producer for James' records? I wonder if that added to the tension between them.

It sure did. There were numerous times when he wanted to pack up and leave.

MrSoulpower said:

Timmy84 said:

lol why wasn't Fred listed as THE producer for James' records? I wonder if that added to the tension between them.

It sure did. There were numerous times when he wanted to pack up and leave.

Yeah I can believe it lol

rialb said:

Timmy84 said:

Wasn't dude on the road like 360 days of the year or something? I also recall that when he wasn't touring, he was recording and when he wasn't recording, he was touring, and when he wasn't doing either, he was trying to make business deals and do business and then when he wasn't doing business financially, he was doing business with someone's girl lol dude never had a break!!!

Hmm, kind of sounds like you are describing a diminutive fella from Minneapolis.

IT DOES!

MrSoulpower said:

TD3 said:

OK. Our Brownologist has spoken. Hi, MrSoooooooooooulpower.

Six albums and you have these whimpy artist who have take a decade after making an album. Cuz, they need some rest or get themselves together.

As Brotha Brown said, "If You Don't Work You Don't Eat."

A Brownologist who stands corrected after he erred.

Don't be too hard on the youngsters though ... Today's recording/production/manufacturing/promotion/distribution standards are so much higher than back in the day, when they often used loose jams from a session and pressed them on record to be released within a couple of weeks.

You better be glad you erred after Halloween cuz Brown Brown would hauted you.

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

I still think he was innovating in the 1970s. Me personally I think he peaked in 1974.

JBs prime was from 61 to 74. I think his peak was between 67 and 70.

Ah I think you may have a good point there. Though I would extend his peak from '65 until '72 at the latest.

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said: JBs prime was from 61 to 74. I think his peak was between 67 and 70.

Ah I think you may have a good point there. Though I would extend his peak from '65 until '72 at the latest.

The early-mid '70s are an interesting era. I think it is undeniable that he was slowing down and that he was starting to lose his edge a bit but there are individual highlights from this era that are as good as anything he did in the '60s. When you consider how great the '60s band was and also how great the original J.B.'s were it is fairly remarkable that he was able to recover from losing most of those musicians. The post J.B.'s groups don't always get a ton of respect but they cooked up some very funky grooves and it wasn't really until the mid-late '70s that his music starting to sound a bit stale. For me "Get Up Offa That Thing" was the last truly great song that he cut.

rialb said:

Timmy84 said:

Ah I think you may have a good point there. Though I would extend his peak from '65 until '72 at the latest.

The early-mid '70s are an interesting era. I think it is undeniable that he was slowing down and that he was starting to lose his edge a bit but there are individual highlights from this era that are as good as anything he did in the '60s. When you consider how great the '60s band was and also how great the original J.B.'s were it is fairly remarkable that he was able to recover from losing most of those musicians. The post J.B.'s groups don't always get a ton of respect but they cooked up some very funky grooves and it wasn't really until the mid-late '70s that his music starting to sound a bit stale. For me "Get Up Offa That Thing" was the last truly great song that he cut.

I agree. He kept it going until '76.