purplethunder3121 said:

Sean Coonery.

my goodnew look what this thread turned inot ..just wow

ComputerBlueSpain said:

What did the Jacksons gain from Paris talking about MJ to Oprah? They gained the interview. If it wasn't for the kids being in said interview, Oprah wouldn't have accepted to interview the Jacksons. In fact, the idea to have the kids on the telly during that Oprah episode came from the family as soon as they were rejected by her. That is, in case you didn't get it: the kids were used by the family as a trade coin.

Ooops, facts hurt, right?

Paris WILL become exactly like Paris Hilton. The family will use her and her brothers until there's no more blood to suck. They're like hyenas surrounding their prey making sure not one single drop of blood will be lost. They were, are and will exploit, use, abuse and objectify MJ3. They're trying to please her, spoil her so they can get a comfortable place in her good graces. The purpose? Well, she'll be a billionaire soon. She's no longer being educated by absolutely anyone. She's being shoved a billionaire lifestyle by her family as a part of a long term plan to, like I said, remain in her good graces. None of the others kids received the least bit of education by their parents, what makes one think MJ3 will (and they're orphans!!!)? Nobody is educating them.

May the Jacksons be away from children.

[Edited 10/22/11 5:52am]

everything you posted is true. i remember how that idiot latoya said something about how mj would turn off the tv and ask them if they've done their homework, but now they have more freedom and they like it. of course they like it. all kids like not having to do their homework and sitting around watching tv. i sure did. but i had a mother who wanted better for me. these kids used to have a father, and now they have nothing.

uneducated people are soooo much easier to manipulate.

i am hoping, however, to the extent that the kids can only get an allowance from the estate until they're in their mid-30s, that the executors will be making sure that whatever money they give the kids will only be enough to ensure that they will be able to support themselves and not a grip of other people. they made jermaine's baby mama and her kids leave hayvenhurst b/c as they pointed out, the mjj trust specifies who is to benefit from it, and they were not in the mood to be paying money out to support anyone other than kat and mj's kids. it's a hopeful sign, i think.

Just don't get in the car with him

spacedolphin said:

Just don't get in the car with him

kibbles said:

lowkey said:

everytime you see pics of these kids its not the family whoring them around or exploiting them, they are mj's kids so the paps are gonna take pics. they are not the only kids of celebs we see pics of all over the net so please stop acting like this is something exclusive to mj's kids. also the comparisons to lisa pressley and sean lennon makes no sense, this is a completely different time we live in, if we had the internet and social networks back then maybe you would have seen more of them, yoko never hid her son,hell he even hung around with mj. of course when mj was alive we didnt see them much because for one they were younger and the interest in them wasnt there, they are around now because mj died and people are interested in how they are adjusting to a new life. i dont see how them doing a few interviews talking about their father is exploiting them, what exactly did the jacksons gain from the kids telling oprah he was a great dad? they are trying to change people's perceptions about mj by showing how nice and normal his kids are and in some cases it has worked.seem to love the attention they are getting but why act surprised by this, we saw them as babies telling their dad they wanna sing and do what he do, they said he was getting them acting lessons, bottom line nobody knows what their father would have or have not let them do as they got older.

you always COMPLETELY IGNORE information that has spoon fed to you about the jacksons' avarice and dirty dealing vis a vis these kids, even in so-called "innocent" situations like the oprah interview, so i don't even know why you bother to state that. the jacksons could literally parade them around naked in the street and you would find an excuse to defend their actions.

also, even you admit that when mj was alive, they weren't all up in the cameras like they are now. why is that? did the internet and social network just get invented on june 25, 2009? i don't see madonna's daughter followed around the way paris is. madonna is just as famous as mj; how is it she's been able to clamp down on all this shit? yes, there are a few shots of lola every now and again, but it is nowhere near the level of what's going on with paris. and don't say it's b/c mj is dead and there's greater interest. the papparazi could have all the interest they want; the jacksons don't have to acquiesce.

i dont ignore no dirty dealing i just dont see it going on like some of you claim. so paris going to a concert is bad because? and when mj was alive they wasnt all over because NOBODY CARED, they were still looked at as some kinda lil freaks with masks when he was alive and you know it. why would you bring up madonna's kid when the girl has her own business, she writes her own blog. mj's fans want his kids to be locked away in a magic castle surrounded by their daddy's pictures and videos and basically sit up on this pedastal that they didnt ask to be on, they are not michael and never will be, the fans are not responsible for them.

ComputerBlueSpain said:

What did the Jacksons gain from Paris talking about MJ to Oprah? They gained the interview. If it wasn't for the kids being in said interview, Oprah wouldn't have accepted to interview the Jacksons. In fact, the idea to have the kids on the telly during that Oprah episode came from the family as soon as they were rejected by her. That is, in case you didn't get it: the kids were used by the family as a trade coin.

Ooops, facts hurt, right?

Paris WILL become exactly like Paris Hilton. The family will use her and her brothers until there's no more blood to suck. They're like hyenas surrounding their prey making sure not one single drop of blood will be lost. They were, are and will exploit, use, abuse and objectify MJ3. They're trying to please her, spoil her so they can get a comfortable place in her good graces. The purpose? Well, she'll be a billionaire soon. She's no longer being educated by absolutely anyone. She's being shoved a billionaire lifestyle by her family as a part of a long term plan to, like I said, remain in her good graces. None of the others kids received the least bit of education by their parents, what makes one think MJ3 will (and they're orphans!!!)? Nobody is educating them.

May the Jacksons be away from children.

[Edited 10/22/11 5:52am]

this is complete bullshit, oprah showed the behind the scenes on how they got the interview, she wanted mrs jackson and was happy when she agreed to do it. oprah didnt even know the kids was gonna speak when they booked the interview. and you still didnt answer what did they gain from mrs jackson,joe and the kids talking to oprah? why do you assume the jacksons kids are uneducated? michael's kids are in school now, they are making their own friends and socializing with other teenagers, they hang out with their cousins, but of course as long as they are with the jacksons they cant be happy,healthy kids right? if you are so concerned about them maybe you should have talked to mj because he wanted them with his family.

kibbles said:

ComputerBlueSpain said:

What did the Jacksons gain from Paris talking about MJ to Oprah? They gained the interview. If it wasn't for the kids being in said interview, Oprah wouldn't have accepted to interview the Jacksons. In fact, the idea to have the kids on the telly during that Oprah episode came from the family as soon as they were rejected by her. That is, in case you didn't get it: the kids were used by the family as a trade coin.

Ooops, facts hurt, right?

Paris WILL become exactly like Paris Hilton. The family will use her and her brothers until there's no more blood to suck. They're like hyenas surrounding their prey making sure not one single drop of blood will be lost. They were, are and will exploit, use, abuse and objectify MJ3. They're trying to please her, spoil her so they can get a comfortable place in her good graces. The purpose? Well, she'll be a billionaire soon. She's no longer being educated by absolutely anyone. She's being shoved a billionaire lifestyle by her family as a part of a long term plan to, like I said, remain in her good graces. None of the others kids received the least bit of education by their parents, what makes one think MJ3 will (and they're orphans!!!)? Nobody is educating them.

May the Jacksons be away from children.

[Edited 10/22/11 5:52am]

everything you posted is true. i remember how that idiot latoya said something about how mj would turn off the tv and ask them if they've done their homework, but now they have more freedom and they like it. of course they like it. all kids like not having to do their homework and sitting around watching tv. i sure did. but i had a mother who wanted better for me. these kids used to have a father, and now they have nothing.

uneducated people are soooo much easier to manipulate.

i am hoping, however, to the extent that the kids can only get an allowance from the estate until they're in their mid-30s, that the executors will be making sure that whatever money they give the kids will only be enough to ensure that they will be able to support themselves and not a grip of other people. they made jermaine's baby mama and her kids leave hayvenhurst b/c as they pointed out, the mjj trust specifies who is to benefit from it, and they were not in the mood to be paying money out to support anyone other than kat and mj's kids. it's a hopeful sign, i think.

Oh they're gone from Hayvenhurst? That's news to me

She doesn't look biracial AT ALL, but then again niether does Mariah Carey..

I was just like her tonight at MJs Cirque Du Soilel!!!

ComputerBlueSpain said:

What did the Jacksons gain from Paris talking about MJ to Oprah? They gained the interview. If it wasn't for the kids being in said interview, Oprah wouldn't have accepted to interview the Jacksons. In fact, the idea to have the kids on the telly during that Oprah episode came from the family as soon as they were rejected by her. That is, in case you didn't get it: the kids were used by the family as a trade coin.

Ooops, facts hurt, right?

Paris WILL become exactly like Paris Hilton. The family will use her and her brothers until there's no more blood to suck. They're like hyenas surrounding their prey making sure not one single drop of blood will be lost. They were, are and will exploit, use, abuse and objectify MJ3. They're trying to please her, spoil her so they can get a comfortable place in her good graces. The purpose? Well, she'll be a billionaire soon. She's no longer being educated by absolutely anyone. She's being shoved a billionaire lifestyle by her family as a part of a long term plan to, like I said, remain in her good graces. None of the others kids received the least bit of education by their parents, what makes one think MJ3 will (and they're orphans!!!)? Nobody is educating them.

May the Jacksons be away from children.

[Edited 10/22/11 5:52am]

I agree with you. The Jackson Family,especially Katherine, Joe,LaToya, IS using these children. It makes me sick to my stomach that this is happening. They are NOT being monitored and that is scary. Michael would never have had this type of OVER-EXPOSURE for his children. Btw, it was very obvious that Michael was slowly indoctrinating his children to the public in his OWN way. The way that Paris especially is being exposed is really making me angry. Damn, this would never have happened if Diana Ross had custody of those children. Even Jermaine said that the kids whold be monitored more. However, it seems that NONE of them have the guts to stand up to Katherine. Janet doesn't seem to care and LaToya is pimping the children as much as Katherine and Joe. It makes me sad that this children don't even realize that they are being used.

Timmy84 said:

^ I guess I'm just over it. I'm just through with judging how that family does things. Even if we don't like it, what the hell can we do? That's the unfortunate part. Michael's gone so they're with them. Maybe I'm just through with talking about it.

[Edited 10/21/11 19:41pm]

Timmy, I feel you. It's maddening to see this and feel helpless because we can't do anything about it. This would never happen if Diana Ross had primary care of Michael's children. We can't forget that Michael wanted his children to be raised by her if his mother was not here to do it. It truly hurts that Katherine is not monitoring them as they should be and using them for her/the family's own gain.

musicjunky318 said:

Just to give a heads up starfish a person's phenotype doesn't equate ancestry. A teenage cousin of mine - my uncle's daughter (black man) is blonde with blue eyes. You know who she reminds me of? You know the actress Hayden Panettiere, the little girl from Remember The Titans? She looks exactly like her. Walking down the street I bet most think she's just a full white girl. It's the same deal with Mariah Carey, which is why she gets the treatment she does from people. But this is something extremely common in African American families in general. We can have sisters or brothers, mothers or fathers, darker or lighter than us, it doesn't mean we aren't connected. Last summer, I went down south to visit my great-aunt and one of her daughters is just as pale as anything. This is my family. A black woman. We honestly can't be painted with one brush.

People fail to realize that most African Americans are not 100% black to begin with. When there is a mixture like that, the combinations are endless. I know many families, including my own, where the kids have the same parents, but some kids are very light and some are dark. It's very common.

tmo1965 said:

musicjunky318 said:

Just to give a heads up starfish a person's phenotype doesn't equate ancestry. A teenage cousin of mine - my uncle's daughter (black man) is blonde with blue eyes. You know who she reminds me of? You know the actress Hayden Panettiere, the little girl from Remember The Titans? She looks exactly like her. Walking down the street I bet most think she's just a full white girl. It's the same deal with Mariah Carey, which is why she gets the treatment she does from people. But this is something extremely common in African American families in general. We can have sisters or brothers, mothers or fathers, darker or lighter than us, it doesn't mean we aren't connected. Last summer, I went down south to visit my great-aunt and one of her daughters is just as pale as anything. This is my family. A black woman. We honestly can't be painted with one brush.

People fail to realize that most African Americans are not 100% black to begin with. When there is a mixture like that, the combinations are endless. I know many families, including my own, where the kids have the same parents, but some kids are very light and some are dark. It's very common.

I personally know a dude (I think he's Creole, which may have something to do with it) who is fully black, but his skin is very light (like a mexican's), but his siblings are very dark skinned.

yeah, but face it. given the way they were born PLUS how they look, i really don't think you can blame people for being skeptical. we all know what the jacksons look like and how similar they all look, including michael. for them to be so white and not look anything like him, AND be born from some bizarre, surrogate/business arrangement or whatever it was....the whole thing looks odd. and seriously unlikely.

starfishgirl said:

yeah, but face it. given the way they were born PLUS how they look, i really don't think you can blame people for being skeptical. we all know what the jacksons look like and how similar they all look, including michael. for them to be so white and not look anything like him, AND be born from some bizarre, surrogate/business arrangement or whatever it was....the whole thing looks odd. and seriously unlikely.

I'm not sure about the rest of the kids, but Prince is Michael's son.

He looks like a young Michael, and he's got vitiligo like Michael did.

starfishgirl said:

yeah, but face it. given the way they were born PLUS how they look, i really don't think you can blame people for being skeptical. we all know what the jacksons look like and how similar they all look, including michael. for them to be so white and not look anything like him, AND be born from some bizarre, surrogate/business arrangement or whatever it was....the whole thing looks odd. and seriously unlikely.

Did a DNA test ever come out?

Free2BMe said:

Timmy84 said:

^ I guess I'm just over it. I'm just through with judging how that family does things. Even if we don't like it, what the hell can we do? That's the unfortunate part. Michael's gone so they're with them. Maybe I'm just through with talking about it.

[Edited 10/21/11 19:41pm]

Timmy, I feel you. It's maddening to see this and feel helpless because we can't do anything about it. This would never happen if Diana Ross had primary care of Michael's children. We can't forget that Michael wanted his children to be raised by her if his mother was not here to do it. It truly hurts that Katherine is not monitoring them as they should be and using them for her/the family's own gain.

I think even for me, to judge what is going on from face value, I'm not there. We don't know how they're really being treated. They might indeed get along with their cousins and stuff. Like I said, it's getting tired wishing things for our own benefits. Prince and Paris are old enough to think for themselves and do what they want and I say more power to them. Same with Blanket once he reached teen age - and believe it or not Blanket ain't that far from reaching it either (he'll be 10 next year and that's still only three years away).

Timmy84 said:

Free2BMe said:

Timmy, I feel you. It's maddening to see this and feel helpless because we can't do anything about it. This would never happen if Diana Ross had primary care of Michael's children. We can't forget that Michael wanted his children to be raised by her if his mother was not here to do it. It truly hurts that Katherine is not monitoring them as they should be and using them for her/the family's own gain.

I think even for me, to judge what is going on from face value, I'm not there. We don't know how they're really being treated. They might indeed get along with their cousins and stuff. Like I said, it's getting tired wishing things for our own benefits. Prince and Paris are old enough to think for themselves and do what they want and I say more power to them. Same with Blanket once he reached teen age - and believe it or not Blanket ain't that far from reaching it either (he'll be 10 next year and that's still only three years away).

I was under the impression that Rebbie was supposed to be more hands-on with them anyway because of Mrs. Jackson's age.

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

I think even for me, to judge what is going on from face value, I'm not there. We don't know how they're really being treated. They might indeed get along with their cousins and stuff. Like I said, it's getting tired wishing things for our own benefits. Prince and Paris are old enough to think for themselves and do what they want and I say more power to them. Same with Blanket once he reached teen age - and believe it or not Blanket ain't that far from reaching it either (he'll be 10 next year and that's still only three years away).

I was under the impression that Rebbie was supposed to be more hands-on with them anyway because of Mrs. Jackson's age.

Me too.

LiLi1992 said:

Emancipation89 said:

Cute. It'd be super cute if she went to Prince concert one day

Why?
Paris loves the attention of the public, but she is not star, she does not yet reached in this life.
The fact that the father of Paris - the king does not make her a princess.

Michael at her age was a star, the Jackson clan leader, but behaved more modestly.
I am afraid that his daughter turned into Paris Hilton's number 2. No talent, no personal achievements, but there is fame, money and show-off!

[Edited 10/21/11 12:45pm]

u sound like a jealous ass loser 4 that paris and her brothers barely ever go anywhere and u we just arted 2 see them in the public and u wanna go there well crack aint for everybody time u leave it alone

so, the lady lost her mind in front of the lamest & most despicable of her father's imitators??

hell naw

This is a big shocker

She is just a 13 yo teenager.. let's give her a break please.

Free2BMe said:

ComputerBlueSpain said:

What did the Jacksons gain from Paris talking about MJ to Oprah? They gained the interview. If it wasn't for the kids being in said interview, Oprah wouldn't have accepted to interview the Jacksons. In fact, the idea to have the kids on the telly during that Oprah episode came from the family as soon as they were rejected by her. That is, in case you didn't get it: the kids were used by the family as a trade coin.

Ooops, facts hurt, right?

Paris WILL become exactly like Paris Hilton. The family will use her and her brothers until there's no more blood to suck. They're like hyenas surrounding their prey making sure not one single drop of blood will be lost. They were, are and will exploit, use, abuse and objectify MJ3. They're trying to please her, spoil her so they can get a comfortable place in her good graces. The purpose? Well, she'll be a billionaire soon. She's no longer being educated by absolutely anyone. She's being shoved a billionaire lifestyle by her family as a part of a long term plan to, like I said, remain in her good graces. None of the others kids received the least bit of education by their parents, what makes one think MJ3 will (and they're orphans!!!)? Nobody is educating them.

May the Jacksons be away from children.

[Edited 10/22/11 5:52am]

I agree with you. The Jackson Family,especially Katherine, Joe,LaToya, IS using these children. It makes me sick to my stomach that this is happening. They are NOT being monitored and that is scary. Michael would never have had this type of OVER-EXPOSURE for his children. Btw, it was very obvious that Michael was slowly indoctrinating his children to the public in his OWN way. The way that Paris especially is being exposed is really making me angry. Damn, this would never have happened if Diana Ross had custody of those children. Even Jermaine said that the kids whold be monitored more. However, it seems that NONE of them have the guts to stand up to Katherine. Janet doesn't seem to care and LaToya is pimping the children as much as Katherine and Joe. It makes me sad that this children don't even realize that they are being used.

Its fine to have normal lives and be out in the public eye, but I just get the impresson that these kids are being whored out in the media really bad. Almost as if they've become the new cash cow.

^^Jeez! Why don't you all just mind your own business! None of you really knows the inner working of that family! Why judge a situation, about you clearly know nothing about?? Whenever pictures of them show up, they look like they enjoy themselves with their family.

SOME of y'all are too old to be trying to belittle a 13 year old girl and accuse her family of "whoring" her around. Then bringing up the child's racial background. The kid went to a Chris Brown concert and had a good time...Move on

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

I think even for me, to judge what is going on from face value, I'm not there. We don't know how they're really being treated. They might indeed get along with their cousins and stuff. Like I said, it's getting tired wishing things for our own benefits. Prince and Paris are old enough to think for themselves and do what they want and I say more power to them. Same with Blanket once he reached teen age - and believe it or not Blanket ain't that far from reaching it either (he'll be 10 next year and that's still only three years away).

I was under the impression that Rebbie was supposed to be more hands-on with them anyway because of Mrs. Jackson's age.

How we know if she isn't now? lol we just know what we see we have no clue who is in control of the kids behind close doors. Anyway at the end of the day that's the children family and people have to accept it.

ViintageJunkiie said:

SOME of y'all are too old to be trying to belittle a 13 year old girl and accuse her family of "whoring" her around. Then bringing up the child's racial background. The kid went to a Chris Brown concert and had a good time...Move on

People acting like fools in here over some kid that ain't theirs.