LittleBLUECorvette said:

Paris9748430 said:

I know there's more than those 3, I was using them as an example.

Who's in your top 20 or so?

In no particular order

1. Notorious B.I.G.

2. Pac

3. Jay-Z

4. Nas

5. Rakim

6. Big Daddy Kane

7. Snoop

8. Too Short

9. LL Cool J

10. Andre 3000

11. Big Boi

12. Black Thought

13. Common

14. Mos Def

15. Eminem

16. Ice T

17. Ice Cube

18. Chuck D

19. Slick Rick

20. KRS One

That's just off the top of my head. I'm leaving out Redman, Scarface, etc.

He's in my top 10.

Paris9748430 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Who's in your top 20 or so?

In no particular order

1. Notorious B.I.G.

2. Pac

3. Jay-Z

4. Nas

5. Rakim

6. Big Daddy Kane

7. Snoop

8. Too Short

9. LL Cool J

10. Andre 3000

11. Big Boi

12. Black Thought

13. Common

14. Mos Def

15. Eminem

16. Ice T

17. Ice Cube

18. Chuck D

19. Slick Rick

20. KRS One

That's just off the top of my head. I'm leaving out Redman, Scarface, etc.

Nice artist I like them all, but Short Dog in the top 10. This is on personal prefernce right?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Paris9748430 said:

In no particular order

1. Notorious B.I.G.

2. Pac

3. Jay-Z

4. Nas

5. Rakim

6. Big Daddy Kane

7. Snoop

8. Too Short

9. LL Cool J

10. Andre 3000

11. Big Boi

12. Black Thought

13. Common

14. Mos Def

15. Eminem

16. Ice T

17. Ice Cube

18. Chuck D

19. Slick Rick

20. KRS One

That's just off the top of my head. I'm leaving out Redman, Scarface, etc.

Nice artist I like them all, but Short Dog in the top 10. This is on personal prefernce right?

Not really. That's why I put "In No Particular Order" at the top of the post.

Tupac, Nas, DMX, Scarface, Bizzy, BIG, Rakim, Eminem, Snoop, Jay-Z, Kool G Rap...... that's probs my Top 11.

Yes, he is. Right up there with Rakim, Kool Moe D, Biggie, Slick Rick, Tupac, Cool J.....

I had 4 of his first 5 cd's.....I don't know where they are now I believe my sis jacked them.

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Shaolin325 said:

Yes, he is. Right up there with Rakim, Kool Moe D, Biggie, Slick Rick, Tupac, Cool J.....

I had 4 of his first 5 cd's.....I don't know where they are now I believe my sis jacked them.

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One of my brothers borrowed "Flesh of My Flesh" and never brought it back.

Timmy84 said:

Shaolin325 said:

Yes, he is. Right up there with Rakim, Kool Moe D, Biggie, Slick Rick, Tupac, Cool J.....

I had 4 of his first 5 cd's.....I don't know where they are now I believe my sis jacked them.

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One of my brothers borrowed "Flesh of My Flesh" and never brought it back.

My sis and I have this thing where we "borrow" each others cd's and then after awhile just claim them as our own .

She has one of my Jamiroquai cd's that I'm pretty sure she was going to try to claim, but I put on this production in front on her son stating "this is my cd and you are just borrowing it".....

Now I have back up for when I'm ready to reclaim it.....

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Paris9748430 said:

I know there's more than those 3, I was using them as an example.

Who's in your top 20 or so?

Top 20 ever is one thing, but it's EASY to name 20 MCs better than DMX. Hell I'll even go in alphabetical order.

Big Daddy Kane

Big Boi

Bucshot of Black Moon

Mos Def (Black Star)

Talib Kweli (Black Star)

KRS-ONE (Boogie Down Productions)

Grand Puba

Common

The D.O.C.

Kelvin Mercer a/k/a Plug One (De La Soul)

Trugoy the Dove a/k/a Plug Two (De La Soul)

Rakim (Eric B. & Rakim)

Guru (Gang Starr)

Ghostface

Ice Cube

Jay Electronica

Jay-Z

Zev Love X a/k/a MF Doom (KMD)

Nasir Jones

The Notorious B.I.G.

Big Boi (OutKast)

Andre 3000 (OutKast)

Chuck D (Public Enemy)

Redman

Q-Tip (A Tribe Called Quest)

Tupac Shakur

And those don't even include at least 5-10 others.

Gritty and Great don't always go hand-in-hand for MC's. DMX is among the grittiest of MCs but is the among the greatest? That case just can't be made.

namepeace said:

I hope I'm not reading it wrong but none of the lists include Wu Tang rappers lol

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

I hope I'm not reading it wrong but none of the lists include Wu Tang rappers lol

I added Rae but forgot GZA.

lol yeah Rae and GZA are tight. Then again so is the entire group/collective/organization.

Here's a bunch of my favorite Emcees {in no particular order}

Ghostface Killah

Nas

Raekwon

Tupac

Common

Andre 3000

Mos Def

Elzhi

Eminem

Kendrick Lamar

DMX

Jay-Z

Biggie

Devin The Dude

Scarface

Snoop

Method Man

Redman

Prodigy

Jay Electronica

Guilty Simpson

Sean Price

Royce Da 5'9

Joe Budden

Big Boi

Posdnous

Trugoy a.k.a Dave

Q-Tip

Cee-Lo

Big Pun

Big L

LLCool J

Slick Rick

Big Daddy Kane

Krs-One

Rakim

MF Doom

Phife

Large Pro

GZA

Busta Rhymes

Jean Grae

Phonte

Monie Love

Invincible

Finale

Talib Kweli

Black Thought

Jadakiss

Beanie Sigel

Ras Kass

MC Lyte

Pharoahe Monch

Ice Cube

LittleBLUECorvette said:

namepeace said:

Top 20 ever is one thing, but it's EASY to name 20 MCs better than DMX. Hell I'll even go in alphabetical order.

Big Daddy Kane

Big Boi

Bucshot of Black Moon

Mos Def (Black Star)

Talib Kweli (Black Star)

KRS-ONE (Boogie Down Productions)

Grand Puba

Common

The D.O.C.

Kelvin Mercer a/k/a Plug One (De La Soul)

Trugoy the Dove a/k/a Plug Two (De La Soul)

Rakim (Eric B. & Rakim)

Guru (Gang Starr)

Ghostface

Ice Cube

Jay Electronica

Jay-Z

Zev Love X a/k/a MF Doom (KMD)

Nasir Jones

The Notorious B.I.G.

Big Boi (OutKast)

Andre 3000 (OutKast)

Chuck D (Public Enemy)

Redman

Q-Tip (A Tribe Called Quest)

Tupac Shakur

And those don't even include at least 5-10 others.

Gritty and Great don't always go hand-in-hand for MC's. DMX is among the grittiest of MCs but is the among the greatest? That case just can't be made.

Nice list don't know if id add Jay and M Doom just yet. Id add Raekwon, Scarface, UGK, LL, Moe D, Kool g Rap, KRS, Slick Rick, grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow, Quen Latifa, MC Lyte, Busta, Eris Sermon. [Edited 10/16/11 21:52pm]

Let me add some more sisters to the list:

1. Eve (the pitbull in a skirt)

2. Salt (yes, Salt. She never gets mentioned. Lyrically she may not have been the best, but the girl could flow with the best of them)

3. Lauryn Hill

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Shaolin325 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

namepeace said: Nice list don't know if id add Jay and M Doom just yet. Id add Raekwon, Scarface, UGK, LL, Moe D, Kool g Rap, KRS, Slick Rick, grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow, Quen Latifa, MC Lyte, Busta, Eris Sermon. [Edited 10/16/11 21:52pm]

Let me add some more sisters to the list:

1. Eve (the pitbull in a skirt)

2. Salt (yes, Salt. She never gets mentioned. Lyrically she may not have been the best, but the girl could flow with the best of them)

3. Lauryn Hill

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I'd submit MC Lyte is the greatest of all female MCs.

As for Doom, I submit he belongs up there because of his groundbreaking work as a member of KMD, his reinvention as MF Doom, and as one-half of Madvillain, the duo that for my $ made one of the greatest albums in hip-hop's history. He's on another level that few this side of Ghost can match.

In no order

Nas

Rakim

KRS ONE

Tupac

Common

Mos Def

Biggie

Tupac

Wu Tang Clan

Q-Tip

LLCool J

Slick Rick

Ice Cube

Chuck D

Guru

The Fugees

.... But I think Nas is probably the greatest just overall....

Ive always thought Jay Z was way overrated.. dont care much for him. Only has one good solid album really.

Krs One NEVER gets his due the same with Nas and so many...

He sold his soul to the devil, and the price was cheap. That's what he said

No way

Best MCees:

NaS, Rakim, Slick Rick, 2Pac, The Notorious B.I.G., Andre 3000, Big Boi, The D.O.C., Eminem, Method Man, Redman, Raekwon, Jay-Z, LL Cool J, Q-Tip, Snoop Dogg, Chuck D, Ice Cube, Ol'Dirty Bastard, Coolio, Guru, Busta Rhymes, Ghostface Killah, Common, The Game, Royce Da 5-9, AZ

And I know Dr. Dre and Eazy-E don't write their own rhymes but I do think they have a very good style

Greatest ever to me is NaS though without a second of doubt

[Edited 10/17/11 13:26pm]

Thibaut said:

No way

Best MCees:

NaS, Rakim, Slick Rick, 2Pac, The Notorious B.I.G., Andre 3000, Big Boi, The D.O.C., Eminem, Method Man, Redman, Raekwon, Jay-Z, LL Cool J, Q-Tip, Snoop Dogg

And I know Dr. Dre and Eazy-E don't write their own rhymes but I do think they have a very good style

[Edited 10/17/11 12:58pm]

Dre don't get in my best rapper list. Eazy worked with the best with what he got and I loved N.W.A. but Ice Cube and MC Ren were WAY better emcees.

They're not in mine either, they're in the honorable mentions part

Ice cube is classic but I don't like him as much as I should because I get offended by his racist lyrics.. I have been rediscovering slick rick lately and OMG the man's first album is just pure genious...

[Edited 10/17/11 13:05pm]

Thibaut said:

They're not in mine either, they're in the honorable mentions part

Ice cube is classic but I don't like him as much as I should because I get offended by his racist lyrics.. I have been rediscovering slick rick lately and OMG the man's first album is just pure genious...

[Edited 10/17/11 13:05pm]

I can get past that shit.

Slick Rick's the don though.

Talking about Hip Hop though, my favorite artists I will always admire are Dr. Dre and NaS they 're both the best at what they do, beats vs. rhymes

^ After hearing so much shit about Dre, I can't agree.

But Nas? Definitely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dFlQsJ_ix4

this clip proves me Dre can still do it

Thibaut said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dFlQsJ_ix4

this clip proves me Dre can still do it

Not taking anything from him because he's a great producer and a pioneer of West Coast rap but I think he took too much credit for what was really collaboration.

TRue but it was still Dre's vision, put all the same people together without Dre and some of the magic is missing . Dre has that magic touch that can take his own and other people's stuff to the next level.

[Edited 10/17/11 13:24pm]

No mention of E-40? One of the best of all time, better than DMX for sure in my opinion. Forget his commercial sound, he's been around since about 1990 and made many classics!
Crazy flow, crazy lyrics, very unique with amazing production.

Timmy84 said:

Thibaut said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dFlQsJ_ix4

this clip proves me Dre can still do it

Not taking anything from him because he's a great producer and a pioneer of West Coast rap but I think he took too much credit for what was really collaboration.

Which is why I would never place Dr. Dre alone by himself... it will always be collectively with NWA.

ISF said:

No mention of E-40? One of the best of all time, better than DMX for sure in my opinion. Forget his commercial sound, he's been around since about 1990 and made many classics!
Crazy flow, crazy lyrics, very unique with amazing production.

E-40's definitely a legend.