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Reply #480 posted 10/09/11 3:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

aardvark15 said:

Dr. Freeze talked about a new album coming out soon that will have Do You Know Where Your Children Are and Blue Gangsta and quite possibly A Place Without No Name!

Yeah hopefully that'll be the follow-up to Michael. Here's hoping they put the songs out (and don't fuck with it too much).

I do think they made Another Day a masterpiece though

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Reply #481 posted 10/09/11 3:25pm

Timmy84

aardvark15 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah hopefully that'll be the follow-up to Michael. Here's hoping they put the songs out (and don't fuck with it too much).

I do think they made Another Day a masterpiece though

That song was actually missing a bridge that was recorded...

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Reply #482 posted 10/09/11 3:26pm

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Timmy84 said:

aardvark15 said:

I do think they made Another Day a masterpiece though

That song was actually missing a bridge that was recorded...

WHAT!!!!! I gotta find that demo!!!!!!

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Reply #483 posted 10/09/11 3:37pm

Timmy84

aardvark15 said:

Timmy84 said:

That song was actually missing a bridge that was recorded...

WHAT!!!!! I gotta find that demo!!!!!!

It's in the estate's vaults. lol

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Reply #484 posted 10/09/11 3:37pm

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LiLi1992 said:

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Regarding the children. Prince and Paris are obviously not MJ's biological children. Even Dr Klein looks more like them than Michael.

Blanket is probably not Michael's biologically either although I'd give it a little chance he is his child biologically. How can anyone believe a black man would have two white and one hispanic looking kid out of 3 possible? Let alone their ethnic features. The only one that evan remotely looks like MJ is Blanket.

I agree in everything, except that the Blanket "remotely" like Michael. Eyes, lips and cheeks are very similar to the little Michael. Blanket has straight hair and fair skin, but his mother, apparently, was white.
Paris and Prince - 90/10 not (you can never be 100% sure) Blanket - 50/50.

That's why I can not communicate with obsessive and hardcore MJ fans. lol
They believe in absurd things and blame others who doubt.

The first two kids do not look like Jacksons, at all. They have nothing ethinc about them. Blanket actually looks like a Jackson, but even with him you never know. But like someone said you can never be 100% sure about their paternity without a DNA test.

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Reply #485 posted 10/09/11 3:41pm

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Militant said:

Prince and Paris are definitely his biological children.

Prince has hereditary vitiligo and Paris is the spitting image of a young La Toya.

Paris is the spitting image of her mother, only with darker hair. Only a hard-core fan will make out that Paris and the young Latoya look like twins. As for Prince he does not look like Klein to me, he has completely different features. However, he can pass for Roger Federer younger brother.

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Reply #486 posted 10/09/11 3:41pm

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With reference to why Conrad Murray's trial is important and why it's important to continue to support Michael, even though he is gone and the Estate might make the fans pissed off or yawn from time to time.

Why does it matter - is the question some fans ask. Why does supporting MJ or even being a fan in general still matter now that the man himself is gone?

It matters because the attacks on Michael's name continue.

It matters because the extortions of 1993 and 2005 shattered him completely.

It matters because the catastrophic agony Michael went through - placed him in a head on collision with someone like Doctor Murray.

It matters because the media tore this man to pieces for over 15 years.

It matters because three children are now living without their father.

It matters because Michael matters

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Reply #487 posted 10/09/11 3:43pm

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With reference to why Conrad Murray's trial is important and why it's important to continue to support Michael, even though he is gone and the Estate might make the fans pissed off or yawn from time to time.

Why does it matter - is the question some fans ask. Why does supporting MJ or even being a fan in general still matter now that the man himself is gone?

It matters because the attacks on Michael's name continue.

It matters because the extortions of 1993 and 2005 shattered him completely.

It matters because the catastrophic agony Michael went through - placed him in a head on collision with someone like Doctor Murray.

It matters because the media tore this man to pieces for over 15 years.

It matters because three children are now living without their father.

It matters because Michael matters

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Reply #488 posted 10/09/11 3:49pm

Timmy84

Vanilli said:

With reference to why Conrad Murray's trial is important and why it's important to continue to support Michael, even though he is gone and the Estate might make the fans pissed off or yawn from time to time.

Why does it matter - is the question some fans ask. Why does supporting MJ or even being a fan in general still matter now that the man himself is gone?

It matters because the attacks on Michael's name continue.

It matters because the extortions of 1993 and 2005 shattered him completely.

It matters because the catastrophic agony Michael went through - placed him in a head on collision with someone like Doctor Murray.

It matters because the media tore this man to pieces for over 15 years.

It matters because three children are now living without their father.

It matters because Michael matters

highfive Though I think the media has always wanted to tear at him from childhood on up. They're hard on child stars and harder on adult pop stars especially when their personal lives are concerned. I'll continue to support Michael until I die. I'm a ride & die type. That didn't change when he died either.

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Reply #489 posted 10/09/11 4:29pm

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I still say a follow up to 'Michael' that features new music should just be called 'Jackson'.

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Reply #490 posted 10/09/11 4:33pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

wait...I'm a loser is from 1995?

To my knowledge, it was recorded during HIStory era

Or after the HIStory recording session

[Edited 10/9/11 16:41pm]

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Reply #491 posted 10/09/11 4:33pm

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The footage of the tribute concert looks like it might have been ok afterall - I am impressed with the staging.

Hopefully a concise and edited version makes it's way to a professional release soon.

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Reply #492 posted 10/09/11 4:34pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Moving on. I want some new music!

I want OLDER music lol

THAT too! Just toss me those outtakes!

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Reply #493 posted 10/09/11 6:38pm

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BTW just keeping score for all the beLIEvers - MJ didn't show up at the tribute concert to reveal it was all a hoax.

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Reply #494 posted 10/09/11 6:49pm

Timmy84

Swa said:

BTW just keeping score for all the beLIEvers - MJ didn't show up at the tribute concert to reveal it was all a hoax.

lol

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Reply #495 posted 10/09/11 6:58pm

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Michael Jackson, Celebrated and Sold

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Christina Aguilera performed at the "Michael Forever Tribute Concert" at Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, Wales. More Photos »

CARDIFF, Wales — At a tribute concert here on Saturday evening,Michael Jackson’s music thumped and cracked as usual, his fans screamed on cue, and conflict and controversy simmered beneath the surface as they have since Mr. Jackson found fame as a child.

Multimedia

Outside Millennium Stadium, where a fleet of S.U.V.’s deposited stars like Christina Aguilera, Cee Lo Green, Ne-Yo, Jamie Foxx, Smokey Robinson and Gladys Knight, Mr. Jackson as a commodity was omnipresent.

Official merchandise stalls did a brisk trade in T-shirts that commemorated his death in 2009($31), coffee mugs ($15) and a slim official program ($19). Unofficial hawkers, equally keen to comfort mourning fans, sold stacks of his trademark fedora, in black and white, some adorned with sequins ($10). White gloves, another signature accessory, were draped over plastic wands that glowed ($7). Scalpers offered tickets for $50, a discount on the original prices of $90 to $300.

The concert’s organizers, and many of his family members, had been accused of similarly leveraging Mr. Jackson’s legend. His estate, which is held separately from his family, said in a letter that it was concerned that the concert was “piggybacking on Michael’s good name and charity.” The event was planned as a commercial affair, though its backers emphasized that an unspecified portion of the proceeds would go to philanthropic causes. Fan groups were outraged at the idea of a profit-making tribute, with one saying that without the estate’s cooperation, the concert was “nothing more than a money grab.”

Before the show Mr. Jackson’s brothers Tito, Marlon and Jackie were asked to comment on the concerns. A publicist tried to stop them from speaking, saying it was “not an appropriate question.”

But Marlon Jackson, wearing large sunglasses and a loose blazer, spoke up. “Those people have a right to feel whatever they feel,” he said. “But we knew our brother better than anyone else, and we want to remember the positive things about him.” His brothers remained silent, and all three were ushered away.

They reappeared later to sing the Jackson 5’s “Blame It on the Boogie,” bringing the crowd to its feet with a rendition that recalled their brother’s phrasing and tone. Among the other pyrotechnic and elaborately choreographed renditions of Mr. Jackson’s hits, Mr. Foxx sang “Rock With You,” Mr. Robinson sang the ballad “She’s Out of My Life,” and Mr. Jackson’s sister LaToya, who was instrumental in this event, performed songs from his album “Dangerous.”

Mr. Jackson’s three children — Prince, 14; Paris, 13; and Michael Jr., 9; wide-eyed and dressed in outfits reminiscent of their father’s — could be seen during the concert standing away from the stage outside an executive suite. They were watched over by two bodyguards, observing the machine dedicated to their father (organizers, entourages, publicists, reporters) in full operation, as it had been during his life.

Later they went onstage and introduced, with brief written statements, a video recorded by Beyoncé, sporting an Afro and singing “I Wanna Be Where You Are.”

The 74,500-capacity stadium appeared to be only partly full; its top tier was empty, and there were patches of empty seats among the crowd lower down. Organizers said approximately 50,000 tickets were sold. Indications of how much money investors, family members and charities would receive were not immediately available.

There had been speculation that a series of controversies might dent ticket sales. Fan groups, already incensed at the business nature of the concert, had been angered when the band Kiss initially appeared on the bill. The band’s lead singer, Gene Simmons, had said that he believed Mr. Jackson might have molested children despite his acquittal on child-abuse charges in 2005. Kiss did not appear on Saturday.

Last week the Black Eyed Peas, perhaps the biggest act on the roster, pulled out. The concert’s organizers cited only “unavoidable circumstances” for the withdrawal. And on Friday it emerged that plans to stream the concert on Facebook had been quietly abandoned because of licensing issues.

Perhaps most strikingly, Janet Jackson and her brothers Jermaine and Randy declined to be involved, saying that a tribute concert was inappropriate while the    involuntary   manslaughter trial of Dr. Conrad Murray, who was with Mr. Jackson when he died, was under way in Los Angeles.

But at the concert, even the most dedicated fans were resigned to the controversy. A woman, who gave her name only as Simona, said that she and three friends had traveled “from Italy for Michael.” The women had also made a pilgrimage to Mr. Jackson’s Neverland Ranch, she said, adding that any turmoil was a family matter. “It is their private problem,” she said, and “not for the fans.”

Debbie Ewart, a hairdresser from Birmingham, England, said she came to compensate for missing out on Mr. Jackson’s This Is It tour; she had tickets, she said, but Mr. Jackson died before the tour began.

There would always be controversy attached to Mr. Jackson, said Ms. Ewart, wearing a sequined black jacket and a black fedora. “People made money off him when he was alive,” she said, “so why should they stop now he’s dead?”

source: http://www.nytimes.com/20...odity.html

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Reply #496 posted 10/09/11 7:40pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

wait...I'm a loser is from 1995?

No it's from 1998. The same period he recorded Place With No Name, Beautiful Girl, and Blue Gangster

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Reply #497 posted 10/09/11 7:42pm

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Timmy84 said:

aardvark15 said:

Dr. Freeze talked about a new album coming out soon that will have Do You Know Where Your Children Are and Blue Gangsta and quite possibly A Place Without No Name!

Yeah hopefully that'll be the follow-up to Michael. Here's hoping they put the songs out (and don't fuck with it too much).

It most likely will be

Blue Gangster

Place With No Name

Do You Know Where Your Children Are

are all confirmed for the follow up biggrin

Remember how we knew Another Day was going to be on Michael before the official announcement?

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Reply #498 posted 10/09/11 8:38pm

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah hopefully that'll be the follow-up to Michael. Here's hoping they put the songs out (and don't fuck with it too much).

It most likely will be

Blue Gangster

Place With No Name

Do You Know Where Your Children Are

are all confirmed for the follow up biggrin

Remember how we knew Another Day was going to be on Michael before the official announcement?

I was so fucking happy when I found out. Has She Got It ever been officially released? I love to have that song on an album, so dancey and sexy.

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Reply #499 posted 10/09/11 8:50pm

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aardvark15 said:

bboy87 said:

It most likely will be

Blue Gangster

Place With No Name

Do You Know Where Your Children Are

are all confirmed for the follow up biggrin

Remember how we knew Another Day was going to be on Michael before the official announcement?

I was so fucking happy when I found out. Has She Got It ever been officially released? I love to have that song on an album, so dancey and sexy.

It was supposed to be on the 2nd disc of the Dangerous special edition but the bonus disc was cancelled a month before the release

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Reply #500 posted 10/09/11 9:08pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah hopefully that'll be the follow-up to Michael. Here's hoping they put the songs out (and don't fuck with it too much).

It most likely will be

Blue Gangster

Place With No Name

Do You Know Where Your Children Are

are all confirmed for the follow up biggrin

Remember how we knew Another Day was going to be on Michael before the official announcement?

That is true lol

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Reply #501 posted 10/09/11 9:24pm

MadamGoodnight

Place With No Name, I love that!

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Reply #502 posted 10/09/11 10:52pm

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Yes, I guess the vitiligo thing must be a coindence, that's obviously FAR more likely [/sarcasm]

also

Yes, there's a similarity between Paris and LaToya, but she's mostly Debbie. I think all 4 of the kids are Michaels biological children.

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Reply #503 posted 10/09/11 11:51pm

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tmo1965 said:

Yes, there's a similarity between Paris and LaToya, but she's mostly Debbie. I think all 4 of the kids are Michaels biological children.

Four???

[Edited 10/9/11 23:51pm]

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Reply #504 posted 10/10/11 12:59am

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MattyJam said:

tmo1965 said:

Yes, there's a similarity between Paris and LaToya, but she's mostly Debbie. I think all 4 of the kids are Michaels biological children.

Four???

[Edited 10/9/11 23:51pm]

Is someone counting Omar? lol

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Reply #505 posted 10/10/11 1:11am

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With Sony possibly releasing a 25th anniversary edition of Bad, I wonder if they'll do an actual remastering of the original album or will they just turn up the EQ confused

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Reply #506 posted 10/10/11 2:14am

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bboy87 said:

With Sony possibly releasing a 25th anniversary edition of Bad, I wonder if they'll do an actual remastering of the original album or will they just turn up the EQ confused

I just hope it's nothing like Thriller 25. Here's hoping they treat MJ with some respect as an artist this time.

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Reply #507 posted 10/10/11 4:40am

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bboy87 said:

MattyJam said:

Four???

[Edited 10/9/11 23:51pm]

Is someone counting Omar? lol

Omer isn't Michael's son, Paris confirmed that on her twitter page, when aked why is she calling him his brother, she said, only because they are really close, but no, the rumours aren't true, Omer isn't a Jackson... wink

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Reply #508 posted 10/10/11 5:22am

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WildStyle said:

bboy87 said:

With Sony possibly releasing a 25th anniversary edition of Bad, I wonder if they'll do an actual remastering of the original album or will they just turn up the EQ confused

I just hope it's nothing like Thriller 25. Here's hoping they treat MJ with some respect as an artist this time.

If a clear DVD of the second leg of the Bad tour is not released alongside this project, I swear I'm really going to flip out and lose all hope for a future release of that tour. I really don't understand why they won't do it. I hate the fact that tour, Victory, Rhythm Nation and the janet. tour have no proper commercial releases.

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Reply #509 posted 10/10/11 6:05am

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Vanilli said:

With reference to why Conrad Murray's trial is important and why it's important to continue to support Michael, even though he is gone and the Estate might make the fans pissed off or yawn from time to time.

Why does it matter - is the question some fans ask. Why does supporting MJ or even being a fan in general still matter now that the man himself is gone?

It matters because the attacks on Michael's name continue.

It matters because the extortions of 1993 and 2005 shattered him completely.

It matters because the catastrophic agony Michael went through - placed him in a head on collision with someone like Doctor Murray.

It matters because the media tore this man to pieces for over 15 years.

It matters because three children are now living without their father.

It matters because Michael matters

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