This guy doesn't get the joy of doing an album on his own, does he? Why does it seem like almost every R&B cat who's in the so-called mainstream is doing collabos? Fuck that.
I blame Clive Davis & Carlo Santana for that bullshit!
Granted, Quincy Jones started that gimmick first since he doesn't sing anyway and let his guest stars do all of the vocals. Dr. Dre copied Quincy, but Dre also raps with his guest stars. But that damn Clive Davis had Carlos Santana took Quincy's gimmick too far by making it mandatory for all recording artists to have collaborations with almost every track on their own albums.
This guy doesn't get the joy of doing an album on his own, does he? Why does it seem like almost every R&B cat who's in the so-called mainstream is doing collabos? Fuck that.
I blame Clive Davis & Carlo Santana for that bullshit!
Granted, Quincy Jones started that gimmick first since he doesn't sing anyway and let his guest stars do all of the vocals. Dr. Dre copied Quincy, but Dre also raps with his guest stars. But that damn Clive Davis had Carlos Santana took Quincy's gimmick too far by making it mandatory for all recording artists to have collaborations with almost every track on their own albums.
I blame Clive Davis & Carlo Santana for that bullshit!
Granted, Quincy Jones started that gimmick first since he doesn't sing anyway and let his guest stars do all of the vocals. Dr. Dre copied Quincy, but Dre also raps with his guest stars. But that damn Clive Davis had Carlos Santana took Quincy's gimmick too far by making it mandatory for all recording artists to have collaborations with almost every track on their own albums.
I put the blame more on Mariah lol
:hifive: Sho nuff! I was telling a friend that a little while ago! Mariah started that shit with Fantasy.
:hifive: Sho nuff! I was telling a friend that a little while ago! Mariah started that shit with Fantasy.
Mmhmm, once Fantasy hit No. 1 (thanks to the Puffy remix with ODB) that's when everyone and their mama were putting hip-hop acts into their records. True, it had been done before by some indie acts and metal groups (Anthrax with Public Enemy) and usual R&B/new jack performers like Mary J. Blige regularly did songs with them but after Mariah, it seemed like every pop/R&B star had to have a rapper on it to sell records lol
:hifive: Sho nuff! I was telling a friend that a little while ago! Mariah started that shit with Fantasy.
Mmhmm, once Fantasy hit No. 1 (thanks to the Puffy remix with ODB) that's when everyone and their mama were putting hip-hop acts into their records. True, it had been done before by some indie acts and metal groups (Anthrax with Public Enemy) and usual R&B/new jack performers like Mary J. Blige regularly did songs with them but after Mariah, it seemed like every pop/R&B star had to have a rapper on it to sell records lol
Mmhmm, once Fantasy hit No. 1 (thanks to the Puffy remix with ODB) that's when everyone and their mama were putting hip-hop acts into their records. True, it had been done before by some indie acts and metal groups (Anthrax with Public Enemy) and usual R&B/new jack performers like Mary J. Blige regularly did songs with them but after Mariah, it seemed like every pop/R&B star had to have a rapper on it to sell records lol
:hifive: Sho nuff! I was telling a friend that a little while ago! Mariah started that shit with Fantasy.
Excuse you, but do you think Mariah was the first one to do a collaboration with rappers? Have we already forgotten Chaka Khan (featuring Melle Mel) & Jody Watley (featuring Eric B. & Rakim)?!?
:hifive: Sho nuff! I was telling a friend that a little while ago! Mariah started that shit with Fantasy.
Mmhmm, once Fantasy hit No. 1 (thanks to the Puffy remix with ODB) that's when everyone and their mama were putting hip-hop acts into their records. True, it had been done before by some indie acts and metal groups (Anthrax with Public Enemy) and usual R&B/new jack performers like Mary J. Blige regularly did songs with them but after Mariah, it seemed like every pop/R&B star had to have a rapper on it to sell records lol
Like I said, blame Chaka & Jody before you blame Mariah.
:hifive: Sho nuff! I was telling a friend that a little while ago! Mariah started that shit with Fantasy.
Excuse you, but do you think Mariah was the first one to do a collaboration with rappers? Have we already forgotten Chaka Khan (featuring Melle Mel) & Jody Watley (featuring Eric B. & Rakim)?!?
But Mariah was going hard core on it. She didn't just do one song with a guest rapper.
When Chaka and Jody did it, it was unique, it stood out. No one was threatened by them because everyone was unique. When Mariah did it, everyone tried to copy.
:hifive: Sho nuff! I was telling a friend that a little while ago! Mariah started that shit with Fantasy.
Mmhmm, once Fantasy hit No. 1 (thanks to the Puffy remix with ODB) that's when everyone and their mama were putting hip-hop acts into their records. True, it had been done before by some indie acts and metal groups (Anthrax with Public Enemy) and usual R&B/new jack performers like Mary J. Blige regularly did songs with them but after Mariah, it seemed like every pop/R&B star had to have a rapper on it to sell records lol
Mmhmm, once Fantasy hit No. 1 (thanks to the Puffy remix with ODB) that's when everyone and their mama were putting hip-hop acts into their records. True, it had been done before by some indie acts and metal groups (Anthrax with Public Enemy) and usual R&B/new jack performers like Mary J. Blige regularly did songs with them but after Mariah, it seemed like every pop/R&B star had to have a rapper on it to sell records lol
Like I said, blame Chaka & Jody before you blame Mariah.
I think they're referring to pop acts rather than R&B acts.
I have never been able to get into Robin Thicke's stuff. I can understand why some people can but I just don't. In saying that, I am reminded of Daryl Hall's statements against being classified as "blue-eyed soul." And yet, when I hear Daryl or Hall and Oates I have never thought of that stereotype. Why is it, when I hear Robin Thicke, I think of that stereotype but not Hall and Oates? I guess that says something about me, possibly...
"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
I have never been able to get into Robin Thicke's stuff. I can understand why some people can but I just don't. In saying that, I am reminded of Daryl Hall's statements against being classified as "blue-eyed soul." And yet, when I hear Daryl or Hall and Oates I have never thought of that stereotype. Why is it, when I hear Robin Thicke, I think of that stereotype but not Hall and Oates? I guess that says something about me, possibly...
I'd be interested to know if you've heard his debut. It definitely doesn't fall in the same category as the second and third. I think you'd be hard-pressed to apply the "blue-eyed soul" label to A Beautiful World.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
I have never been able to get into Robin Thicke's stuff. I can understand why some people can but I just don't. In saying that, I am reminded of Daryl Hall's statements against being classified as "blue-eyed soul." And yet, when I hear Daryl or Hall and Oates I have never thought of that stereotype. Why is it, when I hear Robin Thicke, I think of that stereotype but not Hall and Oates? I guess that says something about me, possibly...
I have never been able to get into Robin Thicke's stuff. I can understand why some people can but I just don't. In saying that, I am reminded of Daryl Hall's statements against being classified as "blue-eyed soul." And yet, when I hear Daryl or Hall and Oates I have never thought of that stereotype. Why is it, when I hear Robin Thicke, I think of that stereotype but not Hall and Oates? I guess that says something about me, possibly...
Maybe because Daryl hates that term. lol.
Robin by all accounts hates it too. I think anybody who usually sings R&B and happens to be of the fair complexion would not like that. Hell some of them don't even have BLUE EYES! Robin sure as hell don't.
Just played the song a few seconds ago, it immediately reminded me of Marvin's "After the Dance" musically. Hell I'm listening right now, it's on a strong Marvin tip actually! With some Michael-esque melodies added to it (the chorus).
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Robin sure as hell don't.