Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Don't you go dissing neo-soul.

Anything too slow for him is a threat to his ass.

But doesn't he ever want to relax and have a good time?

Timmy84 said:

^ You do realize some DJs are dumb as catnip now?

You could give them the baddest jams around and their audience would walk out because it's not what they were raised on and they don't want to hear anything else.

My best friend works security in the club and he comes over to my apartment sometimes with people he has made friends with in the club. Oh, if you ask him his age, he'll laugh and say he's 19. He's joking of course, but I think he refuses to face the fact that he's 46. Anyway, every time he brings people over lately, they are in their 20s and they seem to be bored out of their skull. Finally, I'll just throw something extremely popular that everyone is familiar with such as Michael Jackson and just let it play and they seem to tolerate it but would really rather hear something else. Hell, I've even heard some of them whisper to each other...."all that fast shit". Lord have mercy, that is the complete opposite attitude of the previous generations since the rock and roll era changed things!

My friend can't understand why they were bored and I tell him every time that they are too damn young and slow shit is all they know. Then I tell him every time afterwards...."Look motherfucker...the next time you come over don't be bringing kids you picked up from the sandbox. At least bring somebody over that's old enough to have hair on their dick".

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Anything too slow for him is a threat to his ass.

But doesn't he ever want to relax and have a good time?

Nah his mission in life is to dance to the fastest music and give guys blowjobs. He don't wanna fuck though, just blowjobs.

vainandy said:

Timmy84 said:

^ You do realize some DJs are dumb as catnip now?

You could give them the baddest jams around and their audience would walk out because it's not what they were raised on and they don't want to hear anything else.

My best friend works security in the club and he comes over to my apartment sometimes with people he has made friends with in the club. Oh, if you ask him his age, he'll laugh and say he's 19. He's joking of course, but I think he refuses to face the fact that he's 46. Anyway, every time he brings people over lately, they are in their 20s and they seem to be bored out of their skull. Finally, I'll just throw something extremely popular that everyone is familiar with such as Michael Jackson and just let it play and they seem to tolerate it but would really rather hear something else. Hell, I've even heard some of them whisper to each other...."all that fast shit". Lord have mercy, that is the complete opposite attitude of the previous generations since the rock and roll era changed things!

My friend can't understand why they were bored and I tell him every time that they are too damn young and slow shit is all they know. Then I tell him every time afterwards...."Look motherfucker...the next time you come over don't be bringing kids you picked up from the sandbox. At least bring somebody over that's old enough to have hair on their dick".

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

But doesn't he ever want to relax and have a good time?

Nah his mission in life is to dance to the fastest music and give guys blowjobs. He don't wanna fuck though, just blowjobs.

Doesn't he know that slow music is best for that?

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Anything too slow for him is a threat to his ass.

But doesn't he ever want to relax and have a good time?

I have tons and tons and tons of slow jams. I only like sexy after midnight sounding ones though. Hell, I even like the majority of slow jams until 1985 occurred. I hate the hell out of adult contemporary though and that's what most slow jams became beginning in 1985 when Shitney reared her ugly head.

No, I have no problem with slow music whatsoever. But when the only thing being made is slow to midtempo music, then I have a problem. It's fucking rediculous when you have to go searching the deepest ocean and the highest mountain just to find one fucking jam.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Nah his mission in life is to dance to the fastest music and give guys blowjobs. He don't wanna fuck though, just blowjobs.

Doesn't he know that slow music is best for that?

He probably sucked dick to a Stylistics record.

vainandy said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

But doesn't he ever want to relax and have a good time?

I have tons and tons and tons of slow jams. I only like sexy after midnight sounding ones though. Hell, I even like the majority of slow jams until 1985 occurred. I hate the hell out of adult contemporary though and that's what most slow jams became beginning in 1985 when Shitney reared her ugly head.

No, I have no problem with slow music whatsoever. But when the only thing being made is slow to midtempo music, then I have a problem. It's fucking rediculous when you have to go searching the deepest ocean and the highest mountain just to find one fucking jam.

But neo-soul can be sexy after midnight sounding. Untitled by D'Angelo?

smoothcriminal12 said:

vainandy said:

I have tons and tons and tons of slow jams. I only like sexy after midnight sounding ones though. Hell, I even like the majority of slow jams until 1985 occurred. I hate the hell out of adult contemporary though and that's what most slow jams became beginning in 1985 when Shitney reared her ugly head.

No, I have no problem with slow music whatsoever. But when the only thing being made is slow to midtempo music, then I have a problem. It's fucking rediculous when you have to go searching the deepest ocean and the highest mountain just to find one fucking jam.

But neo-soul can be sexy after midnight sounding. Untitled by D'Angelo?

Hell play "Send It On", that will get someone a straight boner lol

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Nah his mission in life is to dance to the fastest music and give guys blowjobs. He don't wanna fuck though, just blowjobs.

Doesn't he know that slow music is best for that?

Uh....click this link and scroll on down to the third mix called "Andy's Bring A Stranger Home At 3:00 A.M. Set" and you'll hear plenty of good slow jams, not dull adult contemporary ones.....

http://vain-andy.podomatic.com/

Then, click this link and scroll down to the sixth mix called "Andy Brings More Strangers Home At 3:00 A.M." and you'll hear even more....

http://vain-andy3435.podomatic.com/

I only do good slow jams. I don't have time for dull shit.

smoothcriminal12 said:

But neo-soul can be sexy after midnight sounding. Untitled by D'Angelo?

I don't like neo-soul either. It's buppie music to me.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

But neo-soul can be sexy after midnight sounding. Untitled by D'Angelo?

Hell play "Send It On", that will get someone a straight boner lol

to that song.

Uh....click this link and scroll on down to the third mix called "Andy's Bring A Stranger Home At 3:00 A.M. Set" and you'll hear plenty of good slow jams, not dull adult contemporary ones.....

http://vain-andy.podomatic.com/

Then, click this link and scroll down to the sixth mix called "Andy Brings More Strangers Home At 3:00 A.M." and you'll hear even more....

http://vain-andy3435.podomatic.com/

I only do good slow jams. I don't have time for dull shit.

Oh you.

I don't like neo-soul either. It's buppie music to me.

MickyDolenz said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

But neo-soul can be sexy after midnight sounding. Untitled by D'Angelo?

I don't like neo-soul either. It's buppie music to me.

Of course you wouldn't, Monkees fan.

I still don't get why they name it "neo soul". It's just plain ass soul/R&B to me lol just on a modern swing I guess.

Timmy84 said:

I still don't get why they name it "neo soul". It's just plain ass soul/R&B to me lol just on a modern swing I guess.

Neither do I but . Screw labels and genres.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

I still don't get why they name it "neo soul". It's just plain ass soul/R&B to me lol just on a modern swing I guess.

Neither do I but . Screw labels and genres.

Right.

Timmy84 said:

MickyDolenz said:

I don't like neo-soul either. It's buppie music to me.

Of course you wouldn't, Monkees fan.

vainandy said:

paisleypark4 said:

I think your problem is with the DJs and the bars themselves then. I'd protest for better music or higher quality selections. Maybe you should even apply to Dj at the spot. You do a damn good job. You are right...a gay mans party life will NEVER end.

My co-worker told me her boyfriends grandfather just came out after 30 years of marriage and moved out...and now throws his own parties at his place...she says, "Madonna plays through his house 24-7.."

The DJs are only playing what they are aware of and what their audience wants to hear. In the black gay clubs (there are two of them now), they play strictly slow to midtempo shit hop. A lot of black people down here, especially in this new generation, are not going to give anything a chance that they are not familiar with and when it comes to other genres, oh no way..."That's white folks music"...is what they say. This new generation doesn't seem to realize that everything played on black radio these days is also played on white radio so there's no such thing as "white folks music" these days. But if you ask me, today's black music might as well be considered "white folks music" since it's slow and dull enough to be played mixed with a Lawrence Welk record without even having to adjust the pitch control. If anything, you'd have to speed the Lawrence Welk record up a little bit to blend it.

But it wasn't like that in the black gay club in the 1990s. 90% of the stuff being played in there back then was house/dance music that mainstream radio never touched, especially not black radio, and some of it was by white artists (they didn't know it themselves but I had a lot of the music at home so I knew). The black gay community at that time was totally open to jams they had never heard before and the music in the club, you could only hear in that club. This generation is different though. Shit hop has dominated so long that they were born and raised into it. And since styles have never changed since they have been born, they aren't open to change like the other generations because they have never been through a complete style change before. The black gay club these days is totally hopeless and will probably never change.

In the white gay club, it's the complete opposite. It's acid/trance type music that is soooo fast that there's no ass shaking whatsoever. They look like rabbits on speed hopping around on the dance floor. They seem to be totally open to stuff they've never heard before but it's completely different circumstances than the black gay club. This is the internet age and every single one of them have a computer and internet. A lot of them don't even see the club as a hookup spot anymore because they are getting dick from the internet so the crowd in the club is decreasing. There are still many blacks down here who can't afford a computer so the club is still a hookup spot. But with shit hop dominating as long as it has, just look at the type of trash that has been making the so-called "music". It has been made by thugs and thugs are their role models these days. There used to be rough trade in the club back in the day but shit hop has really attracted a bad element to the club these days and it's a lot more dangerous place to be than it used to be. I not only despise shit hop because of it being so boring, but for making worthless, piece of trash, thugs as role models for this generation.

So Andy...what chu gon' do about tit?

Sheeeet, I gave up on relying on the club to make me have fun. Plus, out here I think there are just more options than you have. Think u need to move out the area like I said before. You really need to move to NY or something. Last time I was out there I heard the Force M.D.'s being blasted out of some club in the Bronx. I. WAS. SHOCKED. TO say the least. That shit doesnt even happen at the old school parties in Minneapolis.

SeventeenDayze said:

Is it me or does it seem like black bands (NOT GROUPS using drumbeats) died back in the 90s. Before that, it seemed like black bands were really popular. Will black bands ever make a comeback (using instruments) or has hip-hop destroyed it all? I'm not against music changing its sound and in fact I enjoy the sound changes when real effort is made to make the music in the first place.

I guess I'm sick of hearing watered down hip-hop with the same tired themes and whatnot, it's boring already!

Thoughts?

It's never gone away but you have to realize it's not in the 90s but back in the 70s when nightclubs replaced live bands with a DJ. They'd have to play festivals to get their name out there though.

In the 80s, you started having more and more name CDs, and now nightclubs will have events if a name DJ or celeb DJ is going to be on that night. Never thought it would turn into a lucrative industry though.

Just so everyone knows, hiphop didnt mean to fuck up the music industry. If the guy on the song isnt rapping then it isnt hiphop period, an RnB singer using hiphop style beats isnt hiphop its retarded. I guess that since rap/hiphop blew the fuck up as a genre in the 90's all the singers thought they needed to hop on to make a quick buck and when they realized it worked it never changed

Why don't they see that it just doesnt work. For rappers the most important thing is the lyricism, for singers its the music. Taking away the music from singers just fucks the whole thing up. I don't care if a singer doesnt use live instruments, but I do care when all the instruments are doing is playing 2 chords over a drum beat.

You know what? I've tried to not go on about this but to say that hip-hop was the cause of the industry not promoting black bands is false as the world being flat. Hear me out, hip-hop didn't kill anything, the industry just got a bunch of pussies who are scared that they won't be making mad loot off bands. It's too cheap for the industry. And thing is people tell them they're tired of it and they won't listen. Hell the good hip-hop out there hardly get promoted either so why blame a genre? Why not blame corporate dick riders for not promoting anything? And fuck all the musicians who sell their soul to get a piece of the rock. Everyone talking about the industry going to hell but don't wanna acknowledge their own responsiblity in MAKING it that way.

And I don't give a fuck if you don't agree, to me, it's as plain as all out there what is going on. But people act like Jason or Freddy are keeping them from doing what THEY wanna do. Fuck that. The black band is alive, people just chose to go the other way.

Timmy84 said:

You know what? I've tried to not go on about this but to say that hip-hop was the cause of the industry not promoting black bands is false as the world being flat. Hear me out, hip-hop didn't kill anything, the industry just got a bunch of pussies who are scared that they won't be making mad loot off bands. It's too cheap for the industry. And thing is people tell them they're tired of it and they won't listen. Hell the good hip-hop out there hardly get promoted either so why blame a genre? Why not blame corporate dick riders for not promoting anything? And fuck all the musicians who sell their soul to get a piece of the rock. Everyone talking about the industry going to hell but don't wanna acknowledge their own responsiblity in MAKING it that way.

And I don't give a fuck if you don't agree, to me, it's as plain as all out there what is going on. But people act like Jason or Freddy are keeping them from doing what THEY wanna do. Fuck that. The black band is alive, people just chose to go the other way.

Timmy84 said:

You know what? I've tried to not go on about this but to say that hip-hop was the cause of the industry not promoting black bands is false as the world being flat. Hear me out, hip-hop didn't kill anything, the industry just got a bunch of pussies who are scared that they won't be making mad loot off bands. It's too cheap for the industry. And thing is people tell them they're tired of it and they won't listen. Hell the good hip-hop out there hardly get promoted either so why blame a genre? Why not blame corporate dick riders for not promoting anything? And fuck all the musicians who sell their soul to get a piece of the rock. Everyone talking about the industry going to hell but don't wanna acknowledge their own responsiblity in MAKING it that way.

And I don't give a fuck if you don't agree, to me, it's as plain as all out there what is going on. But people act like Jason or Freddy are keeping them from doing what THEY wanna do. Fuck that. The black band is alive, people just chose to go the other way.

Chile! That's the way I see it. Timmy always know how to tell it like it is! I can give a fuck what is happening in the mainstream anymore...listening to the people I actually like makes me happy.

Having the ability to find musicians I like actually gives more of a natural human approach....much of the time when I do I am able to even contact the underground artist and tell them I appreciate it. "Looking for good music" has actually saved me mentally from the noise of the mainstream...been doing it since I was 13.

Timmy84 said:

Fuck that. There does seem to be a small contigent of THOSE type of bands meaning those who prefer to do funk. I have to search but rebelenterprise presented some real funky cuts on here from his group I believe. Ugh I forgot the name already but they are so funky it'll make your head spin. AND they're from the ATL!

Thanks Timmy84 for bringing us back up... Would have responded sooner but my Android Smartphone's been acting like a dumb*** alien...lol.

But anyway, yeah. We were going under our alias The ExileMusikMob (the old post should come up, but google it as well) @ the time, but now, we're back to our original name, Karaus (that's me) + Exiles Of The Nation... "Taylor Road", our 1st released LP from 2006 is still on iTunes.

On our previous material, I wrote/produced & performed everything, but lately I've been revamping things, writing for an album due early next year that will be a collaborative album with the whole band on a label I co-founded. There's loads of material that will come out one way or another. A new one should be out by December of this year on the label I'm signed with...I'll keep ya'll posted.

But, yes, black bands will come back, even if it isn't us. And there are many bands/musicians still here, namely Van Hunt coming back is wonderful. But it really is my dying wish to see real music, not just laid-back soul, but hard-hitting,relentless,unapologetic funk & funk/rock 2 come back, & I'll do whatever I can to see it happen. But it has to be something relevant to this generation...

Why hasn't BET honored George + P-Funk yet with the Lifetime Achievement Award? P-Funk (along with James Brown) did more for Hip-Hop than almost anyone in the 70s (and early 80s, s***, "Atomic Dog"?), they practically invented it. Doing that could make younger people see what it really is all about, the freedom of it.

Parliament-Funkadelic is the biggest influence on us (as well as the namesake of this site, of course), & alot of the things they say, play & HOW they said it should still be relevant to teenagers & 20 something year olds. BUT...they have to be exposed to it, & other than youtube & awesome sites like the one we're on now, they're not. That is something that has to change...if it doesn't, they'll never know. Let's see a Funk/Rock Band Video Game, plenty of great music from the late 60s-early 90s to do that. (I know its a stretch , but someone can make it happen.)

There's more than one way to Escape From Trap City. It's in the mind...

rebelenterprise said:

Timmy84 said:

Fuck that. There does seem to be a small contigent of THOSE type of bands meaning those who prefer to do funk. I have to search but rebelenterprise presented some real funky cuts on here from his group I believe. Ugh I forgot the name already but they are so funky it'll make your head spin. AND they're from the ATL!

Thanks Timmy84 for bringing us back up... Would have responded sooner but my Android Smartphone's been acting like a dumb*** alien...lol.

But anyway, yeah. We were going under our alias The ExileMusikMob (the old post should come up, but google it as well) @ the time, but now, we're back to our original name, Karaus (that's me) + Exiles Of The Nation... "Taylor Road", our 1st released LP from 2006 is still on iTunes.

On our previous material, I wrote/produced & performed everything, but lately I've been revamping things, writing for an album due early next year that will be a collaborative album with the whole band on a label I co-founded. There's loads of material that will come out one way or another. A new one should be out by December of this year on the label I'm signed with...I'll keep ya'll posted.

But, yes, black bands will come back, even if it isn't us. And there are many bands/musicians still here, namely Van Hunt coming back is wonderful. But it really is my dying wish to see real music, not just laid-back soul, but hard-hitting,relentless,unapologetic funk & funk/rock 2 come back, & I'll do whatever I can to see it happen. But it has to be something relevant to this generation...

Why hasn't BET honored George + P-Funk yet with the Lifetime Achievement Award? P-Funk (along with James Brown) did more for Hip-Hop than almost anyone in the 70s (and early 80s, s***, "Atomic Dog"?), they practically invented it. Doing that could make younger people see what it really is all about, the freedom of it.

Parliament-Funkadelic is the biggest influence on us (as well as the namesake of this site, of course), & alot of the things they say, play & HOW they said it should still be relevant to teenagers & 20 something year olds. BUT...they have to be exposed to it, & other than youtube & awesome sites like the one we're on now, they're not. That is something that has to change...if it doesn't, they'll never know. Let's see a Funk/Rock Band Video Game, plenty of great music from the late 60s-early 90s to do that. (I know its a stretch , but someone can make it happen.)

There's more than one way to Escape From Trap City. It's in the mind...

No prob and why BET hasn't saluted P-Funk because whoever they hired now has the history smarts of a toddler.

All it take`s is for one funk band to hit ,like Alicia Keys did and we`ll be back on the right track.

The Orriginal7 (The Time) has returned and based on what I've heard, they are slamminj'!!