uhh, i do DEPEND on having some decent music i can groove to doll..

myfavorite said:

uhh, i do DEPEND on having some decent music i can groove to doll..

Want a time machine?

[Edited 9/19/11 8:55am]

myfavorite said:

uhh, i do DEPEND on having some decent music i can groove to doll..

paisleypark4 said:

myfavorite said:

uhh, i do DEPEND on having some decent music i can groove to doll..

R u saying those songs arent good enuff? Just asking....

Sounds like it.

paisleypark4 said:

myfavorite said:

uhh, i do DEPEND on having some decent music i can groove to doll..

R u saying those songs arent good enuff? Just asking....

Which ones, the videos posted? No. They sound too jazzy and "cultured" like something on a PBS program. They don't have a nasty "get down" feel to them that could be played on a dance floor in a club. They sound more like bands paying tribute to their heros of the 1960s and early 1970s rather than moving forward and creating a completely new sound for the future. Those bands sound like the disco era and the newer funk era of the 1980s never progressed and changed.

I want something that picks up where the 1980s left off before the shit hop era of the 1990s put an end to everything. I want something that picks up where things left off and progresses into a more modern type of sound like bands have always done. By modern though, I don't mean bands with elements of shit hop in them. I want to forget that era ever existed. I just simply want to move forward from where we were before music died, not to go backwards and pay tribute to a more primitive sound that we eventually got out of.

This isn't a black group, nor would I call it a "band", but it's an example of getting back on the right track where things left off when things got killed in the 1990s by shit hop and getting back to continuing on with something good....

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[Edited 9/19/11 12:50pm]

^^Sounds like Puttin' On The Ritz by Taco to me.

MickyDolenz said:

^^Sounds like Puttin' On The Ritz by Taco to me.

That's exactly what I thought when I heard that intro. I could mix the hell out of those two songs.

vainandy said:

paisleypark4 said:

R u saying those songs arent good enuff? Just asking....

Which ones, the videos posted? No. They sound too jazzy and "cultured" like something on a PBS program. They don't have a nasty "get down" feel to them that could be played on a dance floor in a club. They sound more like bands paying tribute to their heros of the 1960s and early 1970s rather than moving forward and creating a completely new sound for the future. Those bands sound like the disco era and the newer funk era of the 1980s never progressed and changed.

I want something that picks up where the 1980s left off before the shit hop era of the 1990s put an end to everything. I want something that picks up where things left off and progresses into a more modern type of sound like bands have always done. By modern though, I don't mean bands with elements of shit hop in them. I want to forget that era ever existed. I just simply want to move forward from where we were before music died, not to go backwards and pay tribute to a more primitive sound that we eventually got out of.

This isn't a black group, nor would I call it a "band", but it's an example of getting back on the right track where things left off when things got killed in the 1990s by shit hop and getting back to continuing on with something good....

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[Edited 9/19/11 12:50pm]

Oh dude, I know you pretty well and I definitley know your taste. Shake em down, thumping hardcore snare loud boombastic funk.

Sadly I have to say this...or more so--proud to say that it seems like international groups are doing it best...from SebastiAn, Private, Neon Romeoz, Bumper, Cut Copy, Basement Jaxx, Chromeo, The Chaenge just to name a few. These bands took it to the next level and sound very modern without sounding like a cheesy 'new 80's' group. They have inspiration and modernization.

I think there are soul black bands still there...but not any hardcore funk ones. If there is I havent yet really seen them popping up now and again on the underground circle. Keep listening to itunes funk radio stations...(there are about 40 of them on their radio list).

Fuck that. There does seem to be a small contigent of THOSE type of bands meaning those who prefer to do funk. I have to search but rebelenterprise presented some real funky cuts on here from his group I believe. Ugh I forgot the name already but they are so funky it'll make your head spin. AND they're from the ATL!

paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:

Which ones, the videos posted? No. They sound too jazzy and "cultured" like something on a PBS program. They don't have a nasty "get down" feel to them that could be played on a dance floor in a club. They sound more like bands paying tribute to their heros of the 1960s and early 1970s rather than moving forward and creating a completely new sound for the future. Those bands sound like the disco era and the newer funk era of the 1980s never progressed and changed.

I want something that picks up where the 1980s left off before the shit hop era of the 1990s put an end to everything. I want something that picks up where things left off and progresses into a more modern type of sound like bands have always done. By modern though, I don't mean bands with elements of shit hop in them. I want to forget that era ever existed. I just simply want to move forward from where we were before music died, not to go backwards and pay tribute to a more primitive sound that we eventually got out of.

This isn't a black group, nor would I call it a "band", but it's an example of getting back on the right track where things left off when things got killed in the 1990s by shit hop and getting back to continuing on with something good....

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[Edited 9/19/11 12:50pm]

Oh dude, I know you pretty well and I definitley know your taste. Shake em down, thumping hardcore snare loud boombastic funk.

Sadly I have to say this...or more so--proud to say that it seems like international groups are doing it best...from SebastiAn, Private, Neon Romeoz, Bumper, Cut Copy, Basement Jaxx, Chromeo, The Chaenge just to name a few. These bands took it to the next level and sound very modern without sounding like a cheesy 'new 80's' group. They have inspiration and modernization.

I think there are soul black bands still there...but not any hardcore funk ones. If there is I havent yet really seen them popping up now and again on the underground circle. Keep listening to itunes funk radio stations...(there are about 40 of them on their radio list).

Those suggestions that Julien gave me last week on my page were great. I downloaded every single one of them last weekend.... .....and had an ass shakin' good time.

RKJCNE said:

MickyDolenz said:

Saw them at a festival last year--simply terrific!

Timmy84 said:

SoulAlive said:

that's why I'm glad that I grew up in the 70s.That was a musically rich era where you didn't have to search for good music.All you had to do was turn on the radio.

Do you guys need your Depends changed?

Young Whippersnapper!

[Edited 9/19/11 19:38pm]

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

Do you guys need your Depends changed?

Young Whippersnapper!

[Edited 9/19/11 19:38pm]

SoulAlive said:

vainandy said:

"They're still out there but you have to search for them".

that's why I'm glad that I grew up in the 70s.That was a musically rich era where you didn't have to search for good music.All you had to do was turn on the radio.

For some reason, folks don't like hearing that fact. Jealousy I guess.

Not sure why they have to be Black.

Deep Blue Organ Trio...



...Promo

They've opened a few shows for Steely Dan during their current tour.

Music for adventurous listeners

tA

Tribal Records

I'm not a huge fan of funk.... but here's a band for you:

Timmy84 said:

Fuck that. There does seem to be a small contigent of THOSE type of bands meaning those who prefer to do funk. I have to search but rebelenterprise presented some real funky cuts on here from his group I believe. Ugh I forgot the name already but they are so funky it'll make your head spin. AND they're from the ATL!

I wantsta hear that. You should get the name from 'em.

Vainandy said:

That's good. Hey if you can party at your house with your own playlist that's even better than trying to dance to Akon at the clubs today. I was at the Gay 90's Saturday night and was really forcing myself to dance to that mess.

Timmy84 said:

Black bands still exist.

Yes, they still exist but pretty much gets ignored by the music industry/radio/tv these days.

SoulAlive said:

vainandy said:

"They're still out there but you have to search for them".

that's why I'm glad that I grew up in the 70s.That was a musically rich era where you didn't have to search for good music.All you had to do was turn on the radio.

True. Those were the good old days. Now I can't really name a current group that's 'out there' and stands out, other than the Roots and Sharon and the Dap Kings.. Times and what many music lovers demand to hear has changed. I actually just started listening to the radio on Saturdays on WBLS 107.5, because they play some good 70s/80s music that's actually worth listening to.

2elijah said:

SoulAlive said:

that's why I'm glad that I grew up in the 70s.That was a musically rich era where you didn't have to search for good music.All you had to do was turn on the radio.

True. Those were the good old days. Now I can't really name a current group that's 'out there' and stands out, other than the Roots and Sharon and the Dap Kings.. Times and what many music lovers demand to hear has changed. I actually just started listening to the radio on Saturdays on WBLS 107.5, because they play some good 70s/80s music that's actually worth listening to.

paisleypark4 said:

Timmy84 said:

Fuck that. There does seem to be a small contigent of THOSE type of bands meaning those who prefer to do funk. I have to search but rebelenterprise presented some real funky cuts on here from his group I believe. Ugh I forgot the name already but they are so funky it'll make your head spin. AND they're from the ATL!

I wantsta hear that. You should get the name from 'em.

Vainandy said:

Those suggestions that Julien gave me last week on my page were great. I downloaded every single one of them last weekend.... .....and had an ass shakin' good time.

That's good. Hey if you can party at your house with your own playlist that's even better than trying to dance to Akon at the clubs today. I was at the Gay 90's Saturday night and was really forcing myself to dance to that mess.

I do that every weekend but you can't meet no new dick that way. That's why it is of the upmost importance that good music is at least played in the clubs even if it's not played anywhere else. Hell, I'm not straight with a wife, a house with a white picket fence, a minivan, some kids, and a dog. A gay man's party life never ends but these days it has. The last time I was out, there was hardly anyone there (who could blame them, the music was horrible). I asked someone where people were meeting dicks these days and they said on craigslist on the internet. Hell, fuck that. I don't want to meet some crazy pervert and lose my life.

paisleypark4 said:

2elijah said:

True. Those were the good old days. Now I can't really name a current group that's 'out there' and stands out, other than the Roots and Sharon and the Dap Kings.. Times and what many music lovers demand to hear has changed. I actually just started listening to the radio on Saturdays on WBLS 107.5, because they play some good 70s/80s music that's actually worth listening to.

My problem with that is after some point I don't feel like I'm being kept up to date. Its fun to live in a different era for a while, but reality hits that the present is always moving on and someone out there is creating something good....(just not being played).

I get your point, but if your intention is to choose a station to specifically listen to music from specific eras, then at that time, you're not expecting to hear much from the present. It's a choice at anytime. When I want to hear what's going on in the present-status of music/what's current/new music, then I'll seek that out. Back in 2006 I used myspace to search for various types of music/current, independent artists and I found quite a few where I still enjoy listening to their music. However, the majority of the current artists whom I admire, well, their music is not played on the radio but yet I'm current with those artists' music, when I want to listen to it. So many new/talented/gifted musicians/artists ignored by the music industry.

I like various types of music, but when I want to hear some good music, I like the type that 'moves' me where I can feel the emotions of the lyrics in a song. Something that's thought-provoking or I could put on 'repeat' because it's that good. Very few 'new' artists that a popular today can do that today. Example, when Alicia came out with her track "Falling' just the way she sang it, and the harmonies of her back up singers brought out the emotions in that song, and that's why it was a successful track. The song/music behind it, and the way it was sung 'touched' people. Her songs after that, didn't give me that same type of feeling.

Now artists like Leela James, now she has a strong, moving voice, and when she sings her songs, you can 'feel' what she's singing about and she takes you 'there' with it, so-to-speak. But her sound may not be for everyone, which is why we all have our individual tastes in music.

[Edited 9/20/11 8:44am]

vainandy said:

paisleypark4 said:

That's good. Hey if you can party at your house with your own playlist that's even better than trying to dance to Akon at the clubs today. I was at the Gay 90's Saturday night and was really forcing myself to dance to that mess.

I do that every weekend but you can't meet no new dick that way. That's why it is of the upmost importance that good music is at least played in the clubs even if it's not played anywhere else. Hell, I'm not straight with a wife, a house with a white picket fence, a minivan, some kids, and a dog. A gay man's party life never ends but these days it has. The last time I was out, there was hardly anyone there (who could blame them, the music was horrible). I asked someone where people were meeting dicks these days and they said on craigslist on the internet. Hell, fuck that. I don't want to meet some crazy pervert and lose my life.

I think your problem is with the DJs and the bars themselves then. I'd protest for better music or higher quality selections. Maybe you should even apply to Dj at the spot. You do a damn good job. You are right...a gay mans party life will NEVER end.

My co-worker told me her boyfriends grandfather just came out after 30 years of marriage and moved out...and now throws his own parties at his place...she says, "Madonna plays through his house 24-7.."

paisleypark4 said:

2elijah said:

True. Those were the good old days. Now I can't really name a current group that's 'out there' and stands out, other than the Roots and Sharon and the Dap Kings.. Times and what many music lovers demand to hear has changed. I actually just started listening to the radio on Saturdays on WBLS 107.5, because they play some good 70s/80s music that's actually worth listening to.

My problem with that is after some point I don't feel like I'm being kept up to date. Its fun to live in a different era for a while, but reality hits that the present is always moving on and someone out there is creating something good....(just not being played).

I used to feel that way until I faced reality. If you look at what the mainstream has been doing for the last 20 years, they have been taking old records, slowing them down, and "talking" over an old song placed on top of a weak sounding beat. And those are just the shit hop groups. Like shit hop, neo stool never gets past midtempo. Hell, that's like the swing and rock and roll eras never occurred, sped the tempo up, gave music rhythm, and changed things for the better. When you make only slow to midtempo music with nothing uptempo, you're actually going backwards to the days before rhythmic music existed. And when you sample an old record instead of coming up with a rhythm and melody of your own, that's really going backwards instead of forward. If that's the case, I'd rather hear the original record at full speed without the ignorant "talking" on top of it.

I don't see it as being stuck in the past whatsoever because I have always been one to go with the changes and get the latest jams sometimes before the radio would even get them. 90% of my records, I bought when they were brand new. I've always wanted to move forward and my complaint for the last 20 years is that the mainstream world around me refuses to let styles change and move forward like they always have before the shit hop and neo stool era. Until a style change comes, I don't even want to know who the latest "hot" (yeah, right) groups are. Hell, when I hear them playing snips of the current songs on the news shows on TV, because you can't escape hearing new music these days, I turn the channel because just the sound of what music has become today depresses the hell out of me and puts me in a bad mood to even hear it briefly.

I don't care about hearing new release music. There's plenty of old music I've never heard, so it's new to me, and that's what I look for. I quit listening to the radio on purpose in 1990, except occasionally the oldies, jazz, or light rock station if I'm in a car or at work. After that, I only heard new music radio because someone else has it on, and that's not that much. The majority of new albums I buy are acts I liked already (Swing Out Sister, Weird Al, Basia, Sade) and the rest are not famous (Raul Midon, Lizz Wright). The only current popular act I like is Nelly, and I haven't bothered with his last couple of releases and haven't heard them. I liked Destiny's Child (mainly the original 4), but not Beyonce solo so much. If I look at a current Billboard, I've never heard 98% of the "hits" (nor most of the performers) listed in there.

paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:

I do that every weekend but you can't meet no new dick that way. That's why it is of the upmost importance that good music is at least played in the clubs even if it's not played anywhere else. Hell, I'm not straight with a wife, a house with a white picket fence, a minivan, some kids, and a dog. A gay man's party life never ends but these days it has. The last time I was out, there was hardly anyone there (who could blame them, the music was horrible). I asked someone where people were meeting dicks these days and they said on craigslist on the internet. Hell, fuck that. I don't want to meet some crazy pervert and lose my life.

I think your problem is with the DJs and the bars themselves then. I'd protest for better music or higher quality selections. Maybe you should even apply to Dj at the spot. You do a damn good job. You are right...a gay mans party life will NEVER end.

My co-worker told me her boyfriends grandfather just came out after 30 years of marriage and moved out...and now throws his own parties at his place...she says, "Madonna plays through his house 24-7.."

I like when people decide to live their lives and fuck everything else.

paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:

I do that every weekend but you can't meet no new dick that way. That's why it is of the upmost importance that good music is at least played in the clubs even if it's not played anywhere else. Hell, I'm not straight with a wife, a house with a white picket fence, a minivan, some kids, and a dog. A gay man's party life never ends but these days it has. The last time I was out, there was hardly anyone there (who could blame them, the music was horrible). I asked someone where people were meeting dicks these days and they said on craigslist on the internet. Hell, fuck that. I don't want to meet some crazy pervert and lose my life.

I think your problem is with the DJs and the bars themselves then. I'd protest for better music or higher quality selections. Maybe you should even apply to Dj at the spot. You do a damn good job. You are right...a gay mans party life will NEVER end.

My co-worker told me her boyfriends grandfather just came out after 30 years of marriage and moved out...and now throws his own parties at his place...she says, "Madonna plays through his house 24-7.."

The DJs are only playing what they are aware of and what their audience wants to hear. In the black gay clubs (there are two of them now), they play strictly slow to midtempo shit hop. A lot of black people down here, especially in this new generation, are not going to give anything a chance that they are not familiar with and when it comes to other genres, oh no way..."That's white folks music"...is what they say. This new generation doesn't seem to realize that everything played on black radio these days is also played on white radio so there's no such thing as "white folks music" these days. But if you ask me, today's black music might as well be considered "white folks music" since it's slow and dull enough to be played mixed with a Lawrence Welk record without even having to adjust the pitch control. If anything, you'd have to speed the Lawrence Welk record up a little bit to blend it.

But it wasn't like that in the black gay club in the 1990s. 90% of the stuff being played in there back then was house/dance music that mainstream radio never touched, especially not black radio, and some of it was by white artists (they didn't know it themselves but I had a lot of the music at home so I knew). The black gay community at that time was totally open to jams they had never heard before and the music in the club, you could only hear in that club. This generation is different though. Shit hop has dominated so long that they were born and raised into it. And since styles have never changed since they have been born, they aren't open to change like the other generations because they have never been through a complete style change before. The black gay club these days is totally hopeless and will probably never change.

In the white gay club, it's the complete opposite. It's acid/trance type music that is soooo fast that there's no ass shaking whatsoever. They look like rabbits on speed hopping around on the dance floor. They seem to be totally open to stuff they've never heard before but it's completely different circumstances than the black gay club. This is the internet age and every single one of them have a computer and internet. A lot of them don't even see the club as a hookup spot anymore because they are getting dick from the internet so the crowd in the club is decreasing. There are still many blacks down here who can't afford a computer so the club is still a hookup spot. But with shit hop dominating as long as it has, just look at the type of trash that has been making the so-called "music". It has been made by thugs and thugs are their role models these days. There used to be rough trade in the club back in the day but shit hop has really attracted a bad element to the club these days and it's a lot more dangerous place to be than it used to be. I not only despise shit hop because of it being so boring, but for making worthless, piece of trash, thugs as role models for this generation.

^ You do realize some DJs are dumb as catnip now?

vainandy said:

paisleypark4 said:

My problem with that is after some point I don't feel like I'm being kept up to date. Its fun to live in a different era for a while, but reality hits that the present is always moving on and someone out there is creating something good....(just not being played).

I used to feel that way until I faced reality. If you look at what the mainstream has been doing for the last 20 years, they have been taking old records, slowing them down, and "talking" over an old song placed on top of a weak sounding beat. And those are just the shit hop groups. Like shit hop, neo stool never gets past midtempo. Hell, that's like the swing and rock and roll eras never occurred, sped the tempo up, gave music rhythm, and changed things for the better. When you make only slow to midtempo music with nothing uptempo, you're actually going backwards to the days before rhythmic music existed. And when you sample an old record instead of coming up with a rhythm and melody of your own, that's really going backwards instead of forward. If that's the case, I'd rather hear the original record at full speed without the ignorant "talking" on top of it.

I don't see it as being stuck in the past whatsoever because I have always been one to go with the changes and get the latest jams sometimes before the radio would even get them. 90% of my records, I bought when they were brand new. I've always wanted to move forward and my complaint for the last 20 years is that the mainstream world around me refuses to let styles change and move forward like they always have before the shit hop and neo stool era. Until a style change comes, I don't even want to know who the latest "hot" (yeah, right) groups are. Hell, when I hear them playing snips of the current songs on the news shows on TV, because you can't escape hearing new music these days, I turn the channel because just the sound of what music has become today depresses the hell out of me and puts me in a bad mood to even hear it briefly.

The problem is with the industry altogether. They focus their attention on one or two artists and overplay them, so-to-speak, to death, like there's no other talent out there, and don't give listeners exposure to other forms of music, like back in the day, when 'new sounds' were occurring, and when that happened, they didn't just 'center' around one or two artists with the new sounds, but opened the door for others with similar music/sounds, giving exposure to other artists and a 'chance' to be heard.

Even when MJ and Prince were the main two artists talked about, other artists, with various sounds were being heard too. Maybe not on the same scale as MJ and Prince at that time, but many groups from the 80s era were given some play on the radio.

[Edited 9/20/11 9:19am]

vainandy said:

paisleypark4 said:

My problem with that is after some point I don't feel like I'm being kept up to date. Its fun to live in a different era for a while, but reality hits that the present is always moving on and someone out there is creating something good....(just not being played).

I used to feel that way until I faced reality. If you look at what the mainstream has been doing for the last 20 years, they have been taking old records, slowing them down, and "talking" over an old song placed on top of a weak sounding beat. And those are just the shit hop groups. Like shit hop, neo stool never gets past midtempo. Hell, that's like the swing and rock and roll eras never occurred, sped the tempo up, gave music rhythm, and changed things for the better. When you make only slow to midtempo music with nothing uptempo, you're actually going backwards to the days before rhythmic music existed. And when you sample an old record instead of coming up with a rhythm and melody of your own, that's really going backwards instead of forward. If that's the case, I'd rather hear the original record at full speed without the ignorant "talking" on top of it.

I don't see it as being stuck in the past whatsoever because I have always been one to go with the changes and get the latest jams sometimes before the radio would even get them. 90% of my records, I bought when they were brand new. I've always wanted to move forward and my complaint for the last 20 years is that the mainstream world around me refuses to let styles change and move forward like they always have before the shit hop and neo stool era. Until a style change comes, I don't even want to know who the latest "hot" (yeah, right) groups are. Hell, when I hear them playing snips of the current songs on the news shows on TV, because you can't escape hearing new music these days, I turn the channel because just the sound of what music has become today depresses the hell out of me and puts me in a bad mood to even hear it briefly.

Don't you go dissing neo-soul.

smoothcriminal12 said:

vainandy said:

I used to feel that way until I faced reality. If you look at what the mainstream has been doing for the last 20 years, they have been taking old records, slowing them down, and "talking" over an old song placed on top of a weak sounding beat. And those are just the shit hop groups. Like shit hop, neo stool never gets past midtempo. Hell, that's like the swing and rock and roll eras never occurred, sped the tempo up, gave music rhythm, and changed things for the better. When you make only slow to midtempo music with nothing uptempo, you're actually going backwards to the days before rhythmic music existed. And when you sample an old record instead of coming up with a rhythm and melody of your own, that's really going backwards instead of forward. If that's the case, I'd rather hear the original record at full speed without the ignorant "talking" on top of it.

I don't see it as being stuck in the past whatsoever because I have always been one to go with the changes and get the latest jams sometimes before the radio would even get them. 90% of my records, I bought when they were brand new. I've always wanted to move forward and my complaint for the last 20 years is that the mainstream world around me refuses to let styles change and move forward like they always have before the shit hop and neo stool era. Until a style change comes, I don't even want to know who the latest "hot" (yeah, right) groups are. Hell, when I hear them playing snips of the current songs on the news shows on TV, because you can't escape hearing new music these days, I turn the channel because just the sound of what music has become today depresses the hell out of me and puts me in a bad mood to even hear it briefly.

Don't you go dissing neo-soul.

Anything too slow for him is a threat to his ass.