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Thread started 09/06/11 3:15pm

MickyDolenz

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Richard Berry ~ Louie Louie

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #1 posted 09/06/11 4:42pm

theAudience

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Nice pick.

Did a post on him a few years ago after researching a song used in a Land Rover commerical.
Turned out it was a song written by Richard Berry called Have Love Will Travel being done by a group called The Sonics.

Unfortunately, he was at the center (at least for a while) of another sad "music business" story.
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Even if this man never wrote "LOUIE LOUIE," he should go down in history as one of the true pioneers in American rhythm & blues, as one of the great songwriters, singers, and "musical utility men." As a songwriter, he created some great hits for The Kingsmen, Etta James, Louis Prima, The Sonics, and many others. As a singer, often singing bass and tenor in the same song, he inspired many to emulate his style, including Barry White, who performed an incredible version of "LOUIE LOUIE" on his BEWARE album. He is listed as one of Frank Zappa's inspirations on the ground-breaking FREAK OUT debut album by the Mothers of Invention. He is one of the great underdogs in the American music story. He is Richard Berry, and he deserves your attention.


Years later, he discovered he made a mistake by prematurely selling the publishing rights for the song that would later be adopted as "the universal party song." With the help of an organization by the name of Artists Rights Enforcement, Richard Berry was able to recover some of his publishing rights in 1986. In 1992, "LOUIE LOUIE" was sold to Windswept Pacific, a publishing company based in Beverly Hills, and Richard Berry received a substantial payment.


http://www.louielouie.net...dberry.htm
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Another artist with a similar tale of woe was Jesse Belvin who co-wrote Earth Angel and Goodnight My Love (supposedly featuring an 11 year old Barry White on piano). According to legend, Jesse gave away his songwriting credit on Goodnight My Love for $400.

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Reply #2 posted 09/06/11 6:17pm

Timmy84

Rare for me but I prefer this over the original (though the original is just as good):

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Reply #3 posted 09/06/11 8:16pm

theAudience

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Timmy84 said:

Rare for me but I prefer this over the original (though the original is just as good):

At least in the original you can actually understand the lyrics! biggrin

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Reply #4 posted 09/06/11 10:29pm

Timmy84

theAudience said:

Timmy84 said:

Rare for me but I prefer this over the original (though the original is just as good):

At least in the original you can actually understand the lyrics! biggrin

Music for adventurous listeners

tA

peace Tribal Records

Too plain. I like it raw. cool

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Reply #5 posted 09/07/11 1:13pm

JoeBala

Here I thought it was the Stories song. smile

[Edited 9/7/11 13:16pm]

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Reply #6 posted 09/07/11 1:38pm

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Interesting, I have never heard that version

Now having heard it, the way he sings it reminds me a little of this song

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Reply #7 posted 09/07/11 2:46pm

Timmy84

NDRU said:

Interesting, I have never heard that version

Now having heard it, the way he sings it reminds me a little of this song

Richard Berry admits he stole bits of this song for "Louie Louie".

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Reply #8 posted 09/07/11 7:44pm

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JoeBala said:

Here I thought it was the Stories song. smile

Never heard of them.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #9 posted 09/07/11 7:46pm

Timmy84

MickyDolenz said:

JoeBala said:

Here I thought it was the Stories song. smile

Never heard of them.

Wow. neutral

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Reply #10 posted 09/07/11 7:47pm

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Reply #11 posted 09/08/11 10:24am

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Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:

Interesting, I have never heard that version

Now having heard it, the way he sings it reminds me a little of this song

Richard Berry admits he stole bits of this song for "Louie Louie".

really? That's funny, I was just observing, I didn't really think there was a connection

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Reply #12 posted 09/08/11 11:29am

Timmy84

NDRU said:

Timmy84 said:

Richard Berry admits he stole bits of this song for "Louie Louie".

really? That's funny, I was just observing, I didn't really think there was a connection

I thought so when I heard "Louie Louie" for the first time especially in the verses, you can tell it was Chuck-esque when you play "Havana Moon" and "Louie Louie" back and forth.

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Reply #13 posted 09/08/11 3:00pm

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Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:

really? That's funny, I was just observing, I didn't really think there was a connection

I thought so when I heard "Louie Louie" for the first time especially in the verses, you can tell it was Chuck-esque when you play "Havana Moon" and "Louie Louie" back and forth.

yeah particularly in the verses, but it's way more obvious in the original version (since you can't understand the lyrics in the Kingsmen's version)

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Reply #14 posted 09/08/11 3:05pm

Timmy84

NDRU said:

Timmy84 said:

I thought so when I heard "Louie Louie" for the first time especially in the verses, you can tell it was Chuck-esque when you play "Havana Moon" and "Louie Louie" back and forth.

yeah particularly in the verses, but it's way more obvious in the original version (since you can't understand the lyrics in the Kingsmen's version)

That's because the Kingsmen (and other groups that covered the song before and after the Kingsmen and after Richard) had different ways of improvising the melody. I think the Kingsmen version takes bits from the Wailers (not the reggae legends) version but don't quote me on that lol

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