I thought Lady Gaga was the biggest artist right now

Timmy84 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Shit. There is no going back after seeing that. This is the kind of thing that maked people afraid of clowns, or elmos, the whole of their lives. That is just really disturbing and frightening.

allsmutaside said:

Timmy84 said:

Shit. There is no going back after seeing that. This is the kind of thing that maked people afraid of clowns, or elmos, the whole of their lives. That is just really disturbing and frightening.

Oh my goodness that things is also funny. I can't stop looking at it.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Typical Prince fans, who think he's Jesus.

SmoothCriminal...when was the last time I told you I love you?

Right now.

Spinlight said:

Graycap23 said:

I plan on keeping it that way.

lol, Then it's not so interesting in the end. Though I am unsure how you have managed to "never hear a song by this woman" given her hits have been ubiquitous, I'll go along with it. That being said, if you -plan- on continuing to avoid the person's music, -how- did you come to that conclusion without hearing -any- of her music?

My feeling is that Michael's presence was felt everywhere! He felt like the king of pop, everyone knew him and his songs. Whereas with Kate Perry, yeah she's hot now as a pop star but I only know two of her songs and i'm quite sure many, depending on demographics don't know who she is or is not that familiar with her believe it or not.

wonder505 said:

Spinlight said:

lol, Then it's not so interesting in the end. Though I am unsure how you have managed to "never hear a song by this woman" given her hits have been ubiquitous, I'll go along with it. That being said, if you -plan- on continuing to avoid the person's music, -how- did you come to that conclusion without hearing -any- of her music?

My feeling is that Michael's presence was felt everywhere! He felt like the king of pop, everyone knew him and his songs. Whereas with Kate Perry, yeah she's hot now as a pop star but I only know two of her songs and i'm quite sure many, depending on demographics don't know who she is or is not that familiar with her believe it or not.

Call me jaded and old (fashioned) if you want...but I predict Lady Gaga outlasting the Biebers and Katy-dids of this era...

purplethunder3121 said:

wonder505 said:

My feeling is that Michael's presence was felt everywhere! He felt like the king of pop, everyone knew him and his songs. Whereas with Kate Perry, yeah she's hot now as a pop star but I only know two of her songs and i'm quite sure many, depending on demographics don't know who she is or is not that familiar with her believe it or not.

Call me jaded and old (fashioned) if you want...but I predict Lady Gaga outlasting the Biebers and Katy-dids of this era...

time will tell.

allsmutaside said:

Timmy84 said:

Shit. There is no going back after seeing that. This is the kind of thing that maked people afraid of clowns, or elmos, the whole of their lives. That is just really disturbing and frightening.

Well, that's the whole frightening point! Katy Perry and her auto-tuned ilk are as much of a product as Elmo is. But Elmo is more talented.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Terrib3Towel said:

robertlove said: Typical MJ fans who think he's Jesus. Didn't U2 do it too? And several other people?

I meant an artist nowadays...people who's careers started in the 2000's? Tina's a legend...

This is what I get when I give credit to Michael. I get this bullshit. Some punk ass who wants to throw me with the stans. I may be a Michael Jackson fan, but I certainly don't think he's Jesus. Excuse me for not badmouthing him with the rest of the haters.

Go pick on a Lady Gaga stan. They make MJ stans look sane.

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Pay no attention to these hyprocritical delusional Prince fans who act like they dont go apeshit over Prince.

Good for her - can't say that I am a fan only ever really listened to Fireworks but it is a great accomplishment for her.

Her "music" is shite.

Looking at Billboard Top 40... it's all shite.

So glad I'm not DJing in clubs anymore...

It's official, I'm old. All the kids' music sounds like crap to me! "Back in the day we listened to real music by real musicians!" Blah blah blah.

This is what happens when American Idol is the arbiter of talent.

djThunderfunk said:

Her "music" is shite.

Looking at Billboard Top 40... it's all shite.

So glad I'm not DJing in clubs anymore...

It's official, I'm old. All the kids' music sounds like crap to me! "Back in the day we listened to real music by real musicians!" Blah blah blah.

This is what happens when American Idol is the arbiter of talent.

THIS

djThunderfunk said:

Her "music" is shite.

Looking at Billboard Top 40... it's all shite.

So glad I'm not DJing in clubs anymore...

It's official, I'm old. All the kids' music sounds like crap to me! "Back in the day we listened to real music by real musicians!" Blah blah blah.

This is what happens when American Idol is the arbiter of talent.

What does American Idol have to do with this? They have had 2 or 3 actual sucess stories to speak of in a decade of seasons.

djThunderfunk said:

Her "music" is shite.

Looking at Billboard Top 40... it's all shite.

So glad I'm not DJing in clubs anymore...

It's official, I'm old. All the kids' music sounds like crap to me! "Back in the day we listened to real music by real musicians!" Blah blah blah.

This is what happens when American Idol is the arbiter of talent.

Naw, it's not cause you're old, it's because it's true. I think a lot of the "music" today all sounds alike, has no melody, harmony or real instrumentation used at all. I just looked at the top 10 ringtones in the nation right now and was stunned to see that NONE of the "artists" listed is actually a musician at all. I mean come on, even terrible bands back in the day had to have some grasp of music. Now, we have Rihanna? It sucks (and I'm not "old" at all)

Graycap23 said:

Interesting.........I've NEVER heard a song by this woman.

I only know 3 out of the 5 #1 for that same album: California Gurls, Teenage Dream, & Firework.

TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

Interesting.........I've NEVER heard a song by this woman.

I only know 3 out of the 5 #1 for that same album: California Gurls, Teenage Dream, & Firework.

I don't understand how anyone could make that statement unless they're completely cut off from mainstream society.

One of the five is on the radio every three fuckin seconds.

I only know Firework and California Girls.

I can't honestly cheer for what is no longer an accomplishment in this day and age. Popularity is bought like any other commodity. Her music is not very deep or impacting and most likely ten years from now, these songs will be just a faint memory of a good time for todays jr high and high schoolers. This is the era of instant fame, where people go on television, are given t.v. shows and become famous for doing absolutely nothing other than yelling and being an attention whore. It just shows that the science of promotion is effective.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would realistically compare Katy Perry to Michael Jackson in terms of talent.

When it comes to record sales, it is simply a measure of how many people were convinced to buy a product at a given time. It has no bearing on the quality of said product.

thesexofit said:

Not to take anything away from Katy but have you seen the competition on billboard these days? LOL in the 80's and 70's and even 60's you had much stiffer competition on the top 40.

Now as there are so few actual record companies left, they push and push the few artists they have to satuation point. Of course companies have always done this, but now theres fewer stars then ever now it seems to break out (cuts in new artists I presume doesn't help either).

Even as recent as the late 80's you had breakout stars on smaller labels like Virgin, SBK, A&M, Capitol. All of them are gone. And thus less artists to compete with making it easier for the very few left to market....

...Theres much more to it then that, but the lack of smaller record companies actually finding new talent, meaning lack of competition certainly makes it easier for the very few that do make it, to make it BIG!

Anyway I hate stats (or at least bragging about stats) but good for her. Though that "ET" song was crap LOL.

Keep in mind that this is the era of Beyonce (who is having some problem selling her latest album 4 lately!), Lady Gaga (who hasn't had another Top 10 hit since Born This Way), & Rihanna (who made history of her own by have 25 Top 40 singles thus far). Katy Perry is not having all "easy" like talking about it.

And I still say that Ke$ha.......oops, I mean Ke$hit is trash!

musicjunky318 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I only know 3 out of the 5 #1 for that same album: California Gurls, Teenage Dream, & Firework.

I don't understand how anyone could make that statement unless they're completely cut off from mainstream society.

One of the five is on the radio every three fuckin seconds.

Its easy if you don't listen to the radio. At least Tony knows three. I only know two. The internet is killing radio and television simultaneously. When you can customize your musical experiencces, why would you bother with music you're not interested in?

musicjunky318 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I only know 3 out of the 5 #1 for that same album: California Gurls, Teenage Dream, & Firework.

I don't understand how anyone could make that statement unless they're completely cut off from mainstream society.

One of the five is on the radio every three fuckin seconds.

I listen to music from YouTube & Pandora Radio. F*** corporate media-owned FM Radio!

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BlaqueKnight said:

I only know Firework and California Girls.

I can't honestly cheer for what is no longer an accomplishment in this day and age. Popularity is bought like any other commodity. Her music is not very deep or impacting and most likely ten years from now, these songs will be just a faint memory of a good time for todays jr high and high schoolers. This is the era of instant fame, where people go on television, are given t.v. shows and become famous for doing absolutely nothing other than yelling and being an attention whore. It just shows that the science of promotion is effective.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would realistically compare Katy Perry to Michael Jackson in terms of talent.

When it comes to record sales, it is simply a measure of how many people were convinced to buy a product at a given time. It has no bearing on the quality of said product.

I Kissed A Girl will be remember as a classic. No matter how old OR how young you are, two women french-kissing will never go out of style in the minds of men/boys. NEVER!

BlaqueKnight said:

musicjunky318 said:

I don't understand how anyone could make that statement unless they're completely cut off from mainstream society.

One of the five is on the radio every three fuckin seconds.

Its easy if you don't listen to the radio. At least Tony knows three. I only know two. The internet is killing radio and television simultaneously. When you can customize your musical experiencces, why would you bother with music you're not interested in?

Bingo!

BlaqueKnight said:

I only know Firework and California Girls.

I can't honestly cheer for what is no longer an accomplishment in this day and age. Popularity is bought like any other commodity. Her music is not very deep or impacting and most likely ten years from now, these songs will be just a faint memory of a good time for todays jr high and high schoolers. This is the era of instant fame, where people go on television, are given t.v. shows and become famous for doing absolutely nothing other than yelling and being an attention whore. It just shows that the science of promotion is effective.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would realistically compare Katy Perry to Michael Jackson in terms of talent.

When it comes to record sales, it is simply a measure of how many people were convinced to buy a product at a given time. It has no bearing on the quality of said product.

Amen. Sad but true.

BlaqueKnight said:

I only know Firework and California Girls.

I can't honestly cheer for what is no longer an accomplishment in this day and age. Popularity is bought like any other commodity. Her music is not very deep or impacting and most likely ten years from now, these songs will be just a faint memory of a good time for todays jr high and high schoolers. This is the era of instant fame, where people go on television, are given t.v. shows and become famous for doing absolutely nothing other than yelling and being an attention whore. It just shows that the science of promotion is effective.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would realistically compare Katy Perry to Michael Jackson in terms of talent.

When it comes to record sales, it is simply a measure of how many people were convinced to buy a product at a given time. It has no bearing on the quality of said product.

Well said.

I don’t care what anybody says Teenage Dream is a fun catchy pop album and that’s all it should be looked as good for her.

BlaqueKnight said:

I only know Firework and California Girls.

I can't honestly cheer for what is no longer an accomplishment in this day and age. Popularity is bought like any other commodity. Her music is not very deep or impacting and most likely ten years from now, these songs will be just a faint memory of a good time for todays jr high and high schoolers. This is the era of instant fame, where people go on television, are given t.v. shows and become famous for doing absolutely nothing other than yelling and being an attention whore. It just shows that the science of promotion is effective.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would realistically compare Katy Perry to Michael Jackson in terms of talent.

When it comes to record sales, it is simply a measure of how many people were convinced to buy a product at a given time. It has no bearing on the quality of said product.

WELL SAID

RKJCNE said:

djThunderfunk said:

Her "music" is shite.

Looking at Billboard Top 40... it's all shite.

So glad I'm not DJing in clubs anymore...

It's official, I'm old. All the kids' music sounds like crap to me! "Back in the day we listened to real music by real musicians!" Blah blah blah.

This is what happens when American Idol is the arbiter of talent.

What does American Idol have to do with this? They have had 2 or 3 actual sucess stories to speak of in a decade of seasons.

The "masses" think American Idol is good and the performers are talented. They must. They watch it. In fact, it is the opposite of the spirit of rock and roll. How anyone, much less kids, think it is good, I'll never understand.

Since AI's inception, Billboard's Top 40 has gone from mostly crap with a few good artists to all crap. The industry doesn't want to cultivate artists that may one day get big enough to no longer need them. The industry wants talentless hacks that are easily replaceable with another talentless hack.

Katy Perry is a symptom and an example of this problem.

If you disagree listen to her all day and watch AI every week. I'll pass.

musicjunky318 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I only know 3 out of the 5 #1 for that same album: California Gurls, Teenage Dream, & Firework.

I don't understand how anyone could make that statement unless they're completely cut off from mainstream society.

One of the five is on the radio every three fuckin seconds.

This is bullshit. I only listen to music I want to listen to. I don't hang out with people that listen to this crap. I don't listen to radio stations that play that crap. My 21 year old daughter doesn't listen to that crap and didn't even when she was a tween.

I haven't listened to radio (except talk radio) in years. Why would I. I have CD players and an iPod which I use to listen to good music. Program your own music and turn off your damn radio!

The thing for me is as of yet I havent heard a peep out of Katy, its almost like she doesnt care that she has had 5 number 1s on the old billboard charts. Its almost like she gets its. Likes shes just having herself a great time living her life. Like chart numbers dont matter to her.

How real.