SCNDLS said:

allsmutaside said:

She is deep like a well.

On motherhood . . .
“I’m a real good mother. And I make sure that the fathers are active. The queendom is in Dallas. Various times in the year, everybody’s there at once, and we all get along. Those are my brothers, I don’t get in their business, they don’t get in mine, but we’re very cognizant of what’s going on with our children.”

On her daughter Puma’s father, rapper Tracy “The D.O.C.” Curry, 39, . . .

“Me and Doc fell in love,” she says, recounting their brief romance in 2003. “And, hey, we played the grown-folks game. He was not the one, but Puma came on through.”

SHe must need a cop to direct traffic when all FOUR daddies show up. Oh, wait, she got one!

That's funny!

She apparently tried to clear up the rumor on her Twitter account about being pregnant by a Texas cop - no, I'm "just chubby." However, she did not clear up the rumor that she was dating one. So her directional needs as related to traffic may be well in hand.

And what of it haters?! She is gettin' some play and running the show. BADASS!! She isn't cheating or telling lies on folks. I think that if Ms. Badu allows you to become involved in her life you are gonna know what the deal is right up front. If that's nuts then sell my stock in Planters and hang me out to dry.

allsmutaside said:

SCNDLS said:

Okay, I'll give you that ONE cuz I was not a fan of that stunt. Maybe she thought it was her only way to compete in this age of fabricated "controversies." Then she follows it up by having a baby by the officer who arrested her. From that respect, EB can be nutsy cuckoo, but she's still somewhat doing her thing musically and touring-wise.

What the heck? (Please, nooooooo!) Google better let me know. (This cop must really have some flavor, right?) I didn't have a problem with the nakedness, cuz she put it out there without reservation, and in a way that was not sexual in nature, but rather political and artistic and brave - just my feeling. (What top woman singer is really going to be brave enough to actually get naked and vulnerable and walk around in the public streets? Truth be told that is some brave shit.) It seemed tacky and planned when Kelly Rowland's recent nudity went down, and I think that this type of motivation is what people are projecting onto Badu; I feel this to be innacurate. (But man, I think that Kelly has an incredibly beautiful body, said the queer man.)

I agree. The video wasn't about being sexual or trying too hard at all so I gotta disagree w/trini this time. The girl ain't frontin'...it's really her.

I see Erykah as being empowered and charting her own course whereas Lauryn despite her talent, has that victim vibe about her nowadays.

Therefore, I'm more drawn to Erykah's style and vibe.

SCNDLS said:

allsmutaside said:

She is deep like a well.

On motherhood . . .
“I’m a real good mother. And I make sure that the fathers are active. The queendom is in Dallas. Various times in the year, everybody’s there at once, and we all get along. Those are my brothers, I don’t get in their business, they don’t get in mine, but we’re very cognizant of what’s going on with our children.”

On her daughter Puma’s father, rapper Tracy “The D.O.C.” Curry, 39, . . .

“Me and Doc fell in love,” she says, recounting their brief romance in 2003. “And, hey, we played the grown-folks game. He was not the one, but Puma came on through.”

SHe must need a cop to direct traffic when all FOUR daddies show up. Oh, wait, she got one!

LOL! I gotta wonder how it went down with the cop.

With all due respect to the original poster, L-Boogie (whom I love - well loved up until I caught her 'act' at Coachella - where Badu slayed her on the same stage the next day, I might add), or Lauryn fans here...

...is there *REALLY* a comparison?

Erykah Badu has had several r&b classic songs from MANY albums.

"Bag Lady," "Tyrone," "Next Lifetime," of course "On & On," "You Got Me," "Love of My Life (An Ode to Hip Hop)," "Window Seat," hell...even "Honey" reached the r&b top 40. Meanwhile she collaborates with everyone from Outkast to Common to Sa-Ra to Sergio Mendes & will.i.am to Zap Fucking Mama.

She is a true original; on the cutting edge; has never been nor ever WILL be a 'pop' star (as Lauryn was at her peak) and each subsequent release of each of her FIVE solo albums (count 'em Lauryn, FIVE solo albums over the past 14 years - what a concept) has been one step FURTHER AWAY from the mainstream (hence her decline in units shifted and wildly uneven critical praise), all the while managing to always move AT LEAST 100k copies in the opening week sales of said albums.

As Erykah goes deeper politically and spiritually, her references have maintained the pro-black sentiments yet become more and more universal and accessible; and she does all this packing theatres across the GLOBE where her performance abilities are LEGENDARY among the disenfranchised, freaky, 'underground' AND even a part of the mainstream audiences WORLDWIDE. She has created a true body of work and a niche, cult following and her touring career has been on fire for over a decade.

Lauryn on the other hand still performs (with a barely there scratchy mess of a throat for delivery) songs that are from projects which both peaked around THE SAME TIME AS ERYKAH'S DEBUT! Save for the odd 'new' song or something from that awful Unplugged disc or "The Sweetest Thing," every Lauryn show consists of (cluttered, often overly loud and offensive) re-arrangements of stuff from "The Score" and "Miseducation." "Lost Ones..." "Ex Factor..." "Ready Or Not..." "Killing Me Softly..." "How Many Mics..." "Doo Wop..." "To Zion..."

Has Lauryn even had the number of SOLO R&B hits that Erykah has? Just "Doo Wop" (more of a pop hit too); "Ex Factor," and was "To Zion" even a single?

Meanwhile Erykah has been the first to jump on new technologies - twitter, those USB sticks (well, the idea was there...), she has taken on and embraced the role of DJing using a lap top during her 'B-Girl' gigs and has worked with Madlib, J Dilla (RIP), Kareim Riggins, Georgia Ann Mulrow, Bilal, now FlyingLotus and Jay Electronica...of course before that she was a part of the Soulquarians...

IS THIS REALLY A COMPARISON between a fringe R&B star who keeps pushing buttons and boundaries and speaks out politically and funds charities and gets freakier, doper (higher?) on each album and who is known for killing the stage on 3 continents...AND a star of yesteryear who hasn't released an OFFICIAL follow up studio record to her classic album from 1998!?

what am i missing...

and by the way, Lauryn, seeing you live the first time was a religious experience (in 1999).

[Edited 8/17/11 16:23pm]

badujunkie said:

With all due respect to the original poster, L-Boogie (whom I love - well loved up until I caught her 'act' at Coachella - where Badu slayed her on the same stage the next day, I might add), or Lauryn fans here...

...is there *REALLY* a comparison?

Erykah Badu has had several r&b classic songs from MANY albums.

"Bag Lady," "Tyrone," "Next Lifetime," of course "On & On," "You Got Me," "Love of My Life (An Ode to Hip Hop)," "Window Seat," hell...even "Honey" reached the r&b top 40. Meanwhile she collaborates with everyone from Outkast to Common to Sa-Ra to Sergio Mendes & will.i.am to Zap Fucking Mama.

She is a true original; on the cutting edge; has never been or will be a 'pop' star (as Lauryn was at her peak) and each subsequent release of one of her FIVE solo albums (count 'em Lauryn, FIVE solo albums over the past 14 years - what a concept) has been one step FURTHER than from the mainstream (hence her decline in units shifted and wildly uneven critical praise), all the while managing to always move AT LEAST 100k in the opening week sales of each. As Erykah goes deeper politically and spiritually, her references have maintained the pro-black sentiments yet become more and more universal and accessible; and she does all this packing theatres across the GLOBE where her performance abilities are LEGENDARY among the disenfranchised, freaky, 'underground' AND some mainstream audiences WORLDWIDE. She has created a true body of work and a niche, cult following and her touring career has been on fire for a decade.

junkie badu - you get an A on that. woulda been an A+ if you had properly cited "Apple Tree" and "Clever". (Now what is a song for her to cover right there - "Cloud Nine")

babynoz said:

allsmutaside said:

What the heck? (Please, nooooooo!) Google better let me know. (This cop must really have some flavor, right?) I didn't have a problem with the nakedness, cuz she put it out there without reservation, and in a way that was not sexual in nature, but rather political and artistic and brave - just my feeling. (What top woman singer is really going to be brave enough to actually get naked and vulnerable and walk around in the public streets? Truth be told that is some brave shit.) It seemed tacky and planned when Kelly Rowland's recent nudity went down, and I think that this type of motivation is what people are projecting onto Badu; I feel this to be innacurate. (But man, I think that Kelly has an incredibly beautiful body, said the queer man.)

I agree. The video wasn't about being sexual or trying too hard at all so I gotta disagree w/trini this time. The girl ain't frontin'...it's really her.

I see Erykah as being empowered and charting her own course whereas Lauryn despite her talent, has that victim vibe about her nowadays.

Therefore, I'm more drawn to Erykah's style and vibe.

I still say, let the music speak for itself. There is no need for all this "attention seeking behavoir". I think the real, her is still, Eryka Wright. You remember her, don't you? She was that talented but, insecure little girl from Texas. She sang from the heart and seemed to really not care about images. She made lyrical statements with her words and music. Gee...I wonder what happened to her?

shorttrini said:

babynoz said:

I agree. The video wasn't about being sexual or trying too hard at all so I gotta disagree w/trini this time. The girl ain't frontin'...it's really her.

I see Erykah as being empowered and charting her own course whereas Lauryn despite her talent, has that victim vibe about her nowadays.

Therefore, I'm more drawn to Erykah's style and vibe.

I still say, let the music speak for itself. There is no need for all this "attention seeking behavoir". I think the real, her is still, Eryka Wright. You remember her, don't you? She was that talented but, insecure little girl from Texas. She sang from the heart and seemed to really not care about images. She made lyrical statements with her words and music. Gee...I wonder what happened to her?

Hmmm, she grew up and expressed different experiences maybe?? Happens to the best of us.

When I was younger I was pretty insecure too...it's over-rated. I'm much happier expressing who I really am.

babynoz said:

shorttrini said:

I still say, let the music speak for itself. There is no need for all this "attention seeking behavoir". I think the real, her is still, Eryka Wright. You remember her, don't you? She was that talented but, insecure little girl from Texas. She sang from the heart and seemed to really not care about images. She made lyrical statements with her words and music. Gee...I wonder what happened to her?

Hmmm, she grew up and expressed different experiences maybe?? Happens to the best of us.

When I was younger I was pretty insecure too...it's over-rated. I'm much happier expressing who I really am.

She 40 years old....Not buying it. While she is one of the most talented women in music, she is an attetion seeker. Like I said before, as talented as she is, let the music speak for itself.

shorttrini said:

babynoz said:

Hmmm, she grew up and expressed different experiences maybe?? Happens to the best of us.

When I was younger I was pretty insecure too...it's over-rated. I'm much happier expressing who I really am.

She 40 years old....Not buying it. While she is one of the most talented women in music, she is an attetion seeker. Like I said before, as talented as she is, let the music speak for itself.

Agree

shorttrini said:

babynoz said:

I agree. The video wasn't about being sexual or trying too hard at all so I gotta disagree w/trini this time. The girl ain't frontin'...it's really her.

I see Erykah as being empowered and charting her own course whereas Lauryn despite her talent, has that victim vibe about her nowadays.

Therefore, I'm more drawn to Erykah's style and vibe.

I still say, let the music speak for itself. There is no need for all this "attention seeking behavoir". I think the real, her is still, Eryka Wright. You remember her, don't you? She was that talented but, insecure little girl from Texas. She sang from the heart and seemed to really not care about images. She made lyrical statements with her words and music. Gee...I wonder what happened to her?

Well, yeah. But I still say that you seem to forget that this woman came out straight wearing a big ass colored beach towel on her head from jump. You are not an insecure little girl when you are wearing a big ass colored beach towel and performing in front of many thousands of people who haven't really got a clue as to who you are and why you have a big ass colored beach towel on your head. You are a bad ass secure bitch who knows her game and has no shame and is confident like a snowman in hell - no, that doesn't make sense, but neither does the incredbile gift channeled from heaven called B-A-D-U. And if you are a snowman in hell, well, you are a bad motherfucker. And her name when it was "real" was Erica. The music is speaking for itself.

allsmutaside said:

shorttrini said:

I still say, let the music speak for itself. There is no need for all this "attention seeking behavoir". I think the real, her is still, Eryka Wright. You remember her, don't you? She was that talented but, insecure little girl from Texas. She sang from the heart and seemed to really not care about images. She made lyrical statements with her words and music. Gee...I wonder what happened to her?

Well, yeah. But I still say that you seem to forget that this woman came out straight wearing a big ass colored beach towel on her head from jump. You are not an insecure little girl when you are wearing a big ass colored beach towel and performing in front of many thousands of people who haven't really got a clue as to who you are and why you have a big ass colored beach towel on your head. You are a bad ass secure bitch who knows her game and has no shame and is confident like a snowman in hell - no, that doesn't make sense, but neither does the incredbile gift channeled from heaven called B-A-D-U. And if you are a snowman in hell, well, you are a bad motherfucker. And her name when it was "real" was Erica. The music is speaking for itself.

Great points. I seriously doubt that she was ever as insecure as the average person...me, for instance.

Read SCNDLS description of her college days above.

She's still badass and her music speaks volumes.

babynoz said:

SCNDLS said:

SHe must need a cop to direct traffic when all FOUR daddies show up. Oh, wait, she got one!

LOL! I gotta wonder how it went down with the cop.

For real! Like how that shit happen? How you go from arresting somebody to gettin they number???

Like I said, it's all nutty IMO, but if she manages to find a way to work it out with minimum drama good for her and them. That shit crazy tho.

SCNDLS said:

babynoz said:

LOL! I gotta wonder how it went down with the cop.

For real! Like how that shit happen? How you go from arresting somebody to gettin they number???

Like I said, it's all nutty IMO, but if she manages to find a way to work it out with minimum drama good for her and them. That shit crazy tho.

I'm sayin'

I guess there's nutty that works and nutty that don't work.

babynoz said:

allsmutaside said:

Well, yeah. But I still say that you seem to forget that this woman came out straight wearing a big ass colored beach towel on her head from jump. You are not an insecure little girl when you are wearing a big ass colored beach towel and performing in front of many thousands of people who haven't really got a clue as to who you are and why you have a big ass colored beach towel on your head. You are a bad ass secure bitch who knows her game and has no shame and is confident like a snowman in hell - no, that doesn't make sense, but neither does the incredbile gift channeled from heaven called B-A-D-U. And if you are a snowman in hell, well, you are a bad motherfucker. And her name when it was "real" was Erica. The music is speaking for itself.

Great points. I seriously doubt that she was ever as insecure as the average person...me, for instance.

Read SCNDLS description of her college days above.

She's still badass and her music speaks volumes.

Shit, everyone has insecurities at every age. But insecure is not a word I'd use to describe her then OR now. Think about it . . . a black hippie dippie chick walking around with a MASSIVE gele on her head . . . in Texas . . . and in Louisiana . . . in 100+ degree heat.

Shiiiiiitttt, that takes courage and self-assuredness because she was sho nuf getting the side eye from most black folks here. Hence, why she got boo'd almost immediately when she took the stage at the place I worked at, based solely on her "odd" appearance. But she stood there in the face of that mess and did her thing. I got mad respect for ol' girl.

SCNDLS said:

babynoz said:

Great points. I seriously doubt that she was ever as insecure as the average person...me, for instance.

Read SCNDLS description of her college days above.

She's still badass and her music speaks volumes.

Shit, everyone has insecurities at every age. But insecure is not a word I'd use to describe her then OR now. Think about it . . . a black hippie dippie chick walking around with a MASSIVE gele on her head . . . in Texas . . . and in Louisiana . . . in 100+ degree heat.

Shiiiiiitttt, that takes courage and self-assuredness because she was sho nuf getting the side eye from most black folks here. Hence, why she got boo'd almost immediately when she took the stage at the place I worked at, based solely on her "odd" appearance. But she stood there in the face of that mess and did her thing. I got mad respect for ol' girl.

Yep, that's why I don't get a "trying too hard" vibe from her at all.

"I'm sayin'

I guess there's nutty that works and nutty that don't work."

Babynoz - "don't believe the hype." My feeling is that the other dominate or "straight" cultural modes of operating are nuts and bat shit crazy. Traditional courtship in many many cultures (i.e. in our country) includes domestic violence, infidelity, stalking and general creepiness, and a whole bunch of other nutty things. Ms. Badu is looking to live within this country with a twiste - yes lets get it twisted - and live in the glorious Amerykah of her dreams.

allsmutaside said:

shorttrini said:

I still say, let the music speak for itself. There is no need for all this "attention seeking behavoir". I think the real, her is still, Eryka Wright. You remember her, don't you? She was that talented but, insecure little girl from Texas. She sang from the heart and seemed to really not care about images. She made lyrical statements with her words and music. Gee...I wonder what happened to her?

Well, yeah. But I still say that you seem to forget that this woman came out straight wearing a big ass colored beach towel on her head from jump. You are not an insecure little girl when you are wearing a big ass colored beach towel and performing in front of many thousands of people who haven't really got a clue as to who you are and why you have a big ass colored beach towel on your head. You are a bad ass secure bitch who knows her game and has no shame and is confident like a snowman in hell - no, that doesn't make sense, but neither does the incredbile gift channeled from heaven called B-A-D-U. And if you are a snowman in hell, well, you are a bad motherfucker. And her name when it was "real" was Erica. The music is speaking for itself.

Sometimes, the most insecure person, is the one who wears that big ass towel on her head. It's sort of a way of saying...."Hey LOOK AT ME"!! OVER HERE!! Some people believe, that the people who do that are secure, when it is just the opposite. A secure person, would just let things be and let the rest speak for itself. Eryka seems to go out of her way to get that attention, so she can feel a sense of validation. Whether it's a towel on her head or running around naked. There is no need for it....Just sing.

allsmutaside said:

"I'm sayin'

I guess there's nutty that works and nutty that don't work."

Babynoz - "don't believe the hype." My feeling is that the other dominate or "straight" cultural modes of operating are nuts and bat shit crazy. Traditional courtship in many many cultures (i.e. in our country) includes domestic violence, infidelity, stalking and general creepiness, and a whole bunch of other nutty things. Ms. Badu is looking to live within this country with a twiste - yes lets get it twisted - and live in the glorious Amerykah of her dreams.

Chile, you don't have to convince me. As someone whose ideas are viewed as a little "different" myself, I can totally relate!

I was referring to the way Erykah's version of nutty seems to work for her while Lauryn's doesn't.

babynoz said:

allsmutaside said:

"I'm sayin'

I guess there's nutty that works and nutty that don't work."

Babynoz - "don't believe the hype." My feeling is that the other dominate or "straight" cultural modes of operating are nuts and bat shit crazy. Traditional courtship in many many cultures (i.e. in our country) includes domestic violence, infidelity, stalking and general creepiness, and a whole bunch of other nutty things. Ms. Badu is looking to live within this country with a twiste - yes lets get it twisted - and live in the glorious Amerykah of her dreams.

Chile, you don't have to convince me. As someone whose ideas are viewed as a little "different" myself, I can totally relate!

I was referring to the way Erykah's version of nutty seems to work for her while Lauryn's doesn't.

Ahhh! I see. Sorry to be so sensative.

shorttrini said:

allsmutaside said:

Well, yeah. But I still say that you seem to forget that this woman came out straight wearing a big ass colored beach towel on her head from jump. You are not an insecure little girl when you are wearing a big ass colored beach towel and performing in front of many thousands of people who haven't really got a clue as to who you are and why you have a big ass colored beach towel on your head. You are a bad ass secure bitch who knows her game and has no shame and is confident like a snowman in hell - no, that doesn't make sense, but neither does the incredbile gift channeled from heaven called B-A-D-U. And if you are a snowman in hell, well, you are a bad motherfucker. And her name when it was "real" was Erica. The music is speaking for itself.

Sometimes, the most insecure person, is the one who wears that big ass towel on her head. It's sort of a way of saying...."Hey LOOK AT ME"!! OVER HERE!! Some people believe, that the people who do that are secure, when it is just the opposite. A secure person, would just let things be and let the rest speak for itself. Eryka Patti seems to go out of her way to get that attention, so she can feel a sense of validation. Whether it's a towel on her head or running around naked. There is no need for it....Just sing.

Now, that's all better.

shorttrini said:

allsmutaside said:

Well, yeah. But I still say that you seem to forget that this woman came out straight wearing a big ass colored beach towel on her head from jump. You are not an insecure little girl when you are wearing a big ass colored beach towel and performing in front of many thousands of people who haven't really got a clue as to who you are and why you have a big ass colored beach towel on your head. You are a bad ass secure bitch who knows her game and has no shame and is confident like a snowman in hell - no, that doesn't make sense, but neither does the incredbile gift channeled from heaven called B-A-D-U. And if you are a snowman in hell, well, you are a bad motherfucker. And her name when it was "real" was Erica. The music is speaking for itself.

Sometimes, the most insecure person, is the one who wears that big ass towel on her head. It's sort of a way of saying...."Hey LOOK AT ME"!! OVER HERE!! Some people believe, that the people who do that are secure, when it is just the opposite. A secure person, would just let things be and let the rest speak for itself. Eryka seems to go out of her way to get that attention, so she can feel a sense of validation. Whether it's a towel on her head or running around naked. There is no need for it....Just sing.

I dunno...the same could have been said of Prince running around in makeup and heels with his tail hanging out I guess, but I don't think we can make a blanket assumption that everyone who displays some unorthodox behaviour is inherently insecure.

I can usually tell whether it's an act or not and I don't get that vibe from Ms. Badu.

allsmutaside said:

shorttrini said:

Sometimes, the most insecure person, is the one who wears that big ass towel on her head. It's sort of a way of saying...."Hey LOOK AT ME"!! OVER HERE!! Some people believe, that the people who do that are secure, when it is just the opposite. A secure person, would just let things be and let the rest speak for itself. Eryka Patti seems to go out of her way to get that attention, so she can feel a sense of validation. Whether it's a towel on her head or running around naked. There is no need for it....Just sing.

Now, that's all better.

babynoz said:

shorttrini said:

Sometimes, the most insecure person, is the one who wears that big ass towel on her head. It's sort of a way of saying...."Hey LOOK AT ME"!! OVER HERE!! Some people believe, that the people who do that are secure, when it is just the opposite. A secure person, would just let things be and let the rest speak for itself. Eryka seems to go out of her way to get that attention, so she can feel a sense of validation. Whether it's a towel on her head or running around naked. There is no need for it....Just sing.

I dunno...the same could have been said of Prince running around in makeup and heels with his tail hanging out I guess, but I don't think we can make a blanket assumption that everyone who displays some unorthodox behaviour is inherently insecure.

I can usually tell whether it's an act or not and I don't get that vibe from Ms. Badu.

"I don't think we can make a blanket assumption that everyone who displays some unorthodox behaviour is inherently insecure."

So, what would call it? Another way of getting yourself noticed? Nope...Not buying it.

shorttrini said:

babynoz said:

I dunno...the same could have been said of Prince running around in makeup and heels with his tail hanging out I guess, but I don't think we can make a blanket assumption that everyone who displays some unorthodox behaviour is inherently insecure.

I can usually tell whether it's an act or not and I don't get that vibe from Ms. Badu.

"I don't think we can make a blanket assumption that everyone who displays some unorthodox behaviour is inherently insecure."

So, what would call it? Another way of getting yourself noticed? Nope...Not buying it.

There are people who are genuinely different...I know because I'm one of them and it's not an act. Not all of us are famous or even want to be either.

Erykah by a mile

allsmutaside said:

shorttrini said:

Sometimes, the most insecure person, is the one who wears that big ass towel on her head. It's sort of a way of saying...."Hey LOOK AT ME"!! OVER HERE!! Some people believe, that the people who do that are secure, when it is just the opposite. A secure person, would just let things be and let the rest speak for itself. Eryka Patti seems to go out of her way to get that attention, so she can feel a sense of validation. Whether it's a towel on her head or running around naked. There is no need for it....Just sing.

Now, that's all better.

Oh goodness

shorttrini said:

babynoz said:

I agree. The video wasn't about being sexual or trying too hard at all so I gotta disagree w/trini this time. The girl ain't frontin'...it's really her.

I see Erykah as being empowered and charting her own course whereas Lauryn despite her talent, has that victim vibe about her nowadays.

Therefore, I'm more drawn to Erykah's style and vibe.

I still say, let the music speak for itself. There is no need for all this "attention seeking behavoir". I think the real, her is still, Eryka Wright. You remember her, don't you? She was that talented but, insecure little girl from Texas. She sang from the heart and seemed to really not care about images. She made lyrical statements with her words and music. Gee...I wonder what happened to her?

Not buyin' your statements. And who is this girl I am supposed to remember? You act like we all went to junior high school together, and she was cool in the intimacy of study hall but didn't know how act in the hallways between classess. Are you saying that her nudity indicates to you that she is not singng from the heart? And you are right to a sneaky extent, because everyone care about their image, that's why you have that handsome picture as your Avi thing. This is a bizarre moment to actually bring up a Biblical feeling, which has never occured to me before - false pride is a sin. I think Erica is just really being herself.

SCNDLS said:

allsmutaside said:

Now, that's all better.

Oh goodness

I am sorry. I was wrong for that.

allsmutaside said:

SCNDLS said:

Oh goodness

I am sorry. I was wrong for that.

I KNOW you are not asking ME to elaborate on my thoughts of Ms. Patti

allsmutaside said:

shorttrini said:

I still say, let the music speak for itself. There is no need for all this "attention seeking behavoir". I think the real, her is still, Eryka Wright. You remember her, don't you? She was that talented but, insecure little girl from Texas. She sang from the heart and seemed to really not care about images. She made lyrical statements with her words and music. Gee...I wonder what happened to her?

Not buyin' your statements. And who is this girl I am supposed to remember? You act like we all went to junior high school together, and she was cool in the intimacy of study hall but didn't know how act in the hallways between classess. Are you saying that her nudity indicates to you that she is not singng from the heart? And you are right to a sneaky extent, because everyone care about their image, that's why you have that handsome picture as your Avi thing. This is a bizarre moment to actually bring up a Biblical feeling, which has never occured to me before - false pride is a sin. I think Erica is just really being herself.

I never said that her singing wasn't coming from her heart, it most likely is. What I am saying is, stunts like that are unnecessary BECAUSE, her songs are allready coming from the heart and THAT should be the exclamation point, not the other "LOOK AT ME", antics. As for my icon, the reason for it is not vanity. It is for clarification. When I first came to the Org, people assumed I was female, because of my screen name, "Shorttrini". So, to make it easier I place a pic of what I looked like.