Oh come on!!! Have some faith in Stevie! I'm actually quite intrigued to see how the collaboration goes. U never know...

collaborating with rappers??? damn, he's just following the hottest trend of the moment he used to be a leader, now he's just a sell out

of course it would be different and credible if Stevie had shown interest in rap earlier in his carreer... like let's say if he had produced the first Rap + R&B collabroation

ever long before the next best Jodys or Mariahs jumped on the train

oh wait.... he DID that...

come on folks, I don't know one Drake song so maybe it's more easy for me... but I'll just wait and see before I judge. and I fully trust Stevie

hey, in the end this could turn out as nicley as the last Quincy record, and yes, though in the minority I'm totally serious about this

Eh...Just no.

Dancelot said:

collaborating with rappers??? damn, he's just following the hottest trend of the moment he used to be a leader, now he's just a sell out

of course it would be different and credible if Stevie had shown interest in rap earlier in his carreer... like let's say if he had produced the first Rap + R&B collabroation

ever long before the next best Jodys or Mariahs jumped on the train

oh wait.... he DID that...

come on folks, I don't know one Drake song so maybe it's more easy for me... but I'll just wait and see before I judge. and I fully trust Stevie

hey, in the end this could turn out as nicley as the last Quincy record, and yes, though in the minority I'm totally serious about this

So you're saying that Q's last record turned out nicely? I never heard it in full, but the first couple of songs I heard were major disappointments.

Musicslave said:

Dancelot said:

collaborating with rappers??? damn, he's just following the hottest trend of the moment he used to be a leader, now he's just a sell out

of course it would be different and credible if Stevie had shown interest in rap earlier in his carreer... like let's say if he had produced the first Rap + R&B collabroation

ever long before the next best Jodys or Mariahs jumped on the train

oh wait.... he DID that...

come on folks, I don't know one Drake song so maybe it's more easy for me... but I'll just wait and see before I judge. and I fully trust Stevie

hey, in the end this could turn out as nicley as the last Quincy record, and yes, though in the minority I'm totally serious about this

So you're saying that Q's last record turned out nicely? I never heard it in full, but the first couple of songs I heard were major disappointments.

Let me put it more real. That Q album sucked donkey kong balls.

Why do these old cats do that? And it be the main ones you would NEVER think they would do something like this. Stevie has a beautfiul heart but still..... WHYYYYYY Drake???

Musicslave said:

hey, in the end this could turn out as nicley as the last Quincy record, and yes, though in the minority I'm totally serious about this

So you're saying that Q's last record turned out nicely? I never heard it in full, but the first couple of songs I heard were major disappointments.

I liked it. not every single track but with a few edits still good enough for me. and since I don't even know half of the guest rappers appearing on it I could listen without prejudice

and yes, I admit, that in most cases the original recordings were better, but the remakes in todays music context totally make sense. why not try something new? why not rearrange old compositions? in the jazz genre where he comes from this happens all the time. and noone is taking away the original recordings. the new ones just add a different perspective.

and once again, if there are any old school artist who have the right to collaborate with rappes it's Stevie and Quincy: Stevie for the GBE track I listed above, and yes, also Quincy inlcuded rap already on the Dude (title track). so no, he's also not follwoing trends, he spotted trends then when they didn't even were trends yet

you can take so many Quincy album from the past, Body Heat, Stuff like that, Dude, Back on the block etc. he always collaborated with legions of hip young and old talents frmo ALL differnt genres. when he did albums like Stuff like that jazz purists were bashing him for selling out, hell no, there were mainstream R&B artists like Chaka, Nick & Val etc. on there. you can't do that! but i didn't give a shit then and I don't give a shit now. but as I said, I'm in a minority.

Dancelot said:

Musicslave said:

So you're saying that Q's last record turned out nicely? I never heard it in full, but the first couple of songs I heard were major disappointments.

I liked it. not every single track but with a few edits still good enough for me. and since I don't even know half of the guest rappers appearing on it I could listen without prejudice

and yes, I admit, that in most cases the original recordings were better, but the remakes in todays music context totally make sense. why not try something new? why not rearrange old compositions? in the jazz genre where he comes from this happens all the time. and noone is taking away the original recordings. the new ones just add a different perspective.

and once again, if there are any old school artist who have the right to collaborate with rappes it's Stevie and Quincy: Stevie for the GBE track I listed above, and yes, also Quincy inlcuded rap already on the Dude (title track). so no, he's also not follwoing trends, he spotted trends then when they didn't even were trends yet

you can take so many Quincy album from the past, Body Heat, Stuff like that, Dude, Back on the block etc. he always collaborated with legions of hip young and old talents frmo ALL differnt genres. when he did albums like Stuff like that jazz purists were bashing him for selling out, hell no, there were mainstream R&B artists like Chaka, Nick & Val etc. on there. you can't do that! but i didn't give a shit then and I don't give a shit now. but as I said, I'm in a minority.

Remakes in today's music context with today's artist is a desperate attempt at staying relevant (at least to me.) The artist today are in no way on par with a young Chaka Khan or a Nick Ashford & Valerie Simpson. That's the problem. Where's the integrity? Basing collaborative work on anothers popularity is where I have a problem.

Surely, Drake will learn from a master and enhance his music in some way but...nevermind. We'll wait and see the outcome. Drake is a more melodic type of rapper anyway so, maybe Stevie enhanced that aspect in his music. IDK

Oh yeah, and going back to my man, Q. Why not create new music? You're fuckin Quincy Jones for God's sakes! How many times are you going to remake those classics? Is new original music too much to ask for? I don't think so...Afterall, you're working with all this great talent, let them create something fresh and new Q.

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Musicslave said:

Oh yeah, and going back to my man, Q. Why not create new music? You're fuckin Quincy Jones for God's sakes! How many times are you going to remake those classics? Is new original music too much to ask for? I don't think so...Afterall, you're working with all this great talent, let them create something fresh and new Q.

valid point and I fully agree. I'd much prefer a CD with new material as well. but I won't hold my breath for that happening, so until then....

Stevie played harmonica when Lenny Kravitz covered a KISS song.

Dancelot, you actually stomached a "Quincy CD" with T-Drone and Akon? God bless your soul.

It was Stevie's decision...

chamber said:

It was Stevie's decision...

I'm sure it was. He's been a fan of hip-hop since its existence lol but Drake? I'm sure he could've work with someone like Common or Talib or someone like that lol But I guess Drake's okay if Drake wanted some knowledge or whatever. I don't know how it's gonna enhance Drake's style but we'll see, I guess.

Timmy84 said:

chamber said:

It was Stevie's decision...

I'm sure it was. He's been a fan of hip-hop since its existence lol but Drake? I'm sure he could've work with someone like Common or Talib or someone like that lol But I guess Drake's okay if Drake wanted some knowledge or whatever. I don't know how it's gonna enhance Drake's style but we'll see, I guess.

I wanna hear some hardcore funk/hip-hop jams.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm sure it was. He's been a fan of hip-hop since its existence lol but Drake? I'm sure he could've work with someone like Common or Talib or someone like that lol But I guess Drake's okay if Drake wanted some knowledge or whatever. I don't know how it's gonna enhance Drake's style but we'll see, I guess.

I wanna hear some hardcore funk/hip-hop jams.

I doubt it. With Stevie and Drake, you may get a "sweet love song". You know Stevie's all about love songs these days. Maybe it's his age idk lol

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I wanna hear some hardcore funk/hip-hop jams.

I doubt it. With Stevie and Drake, you may get a "sweet love song". You know Stevie's all about love songs these days. Maybe it's his age idk lol

You're wrong for that one Timmy! I laugh because you're probably right. Stevie did say it's "All About The Love Again."

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

I doubt it. With Stevie and Drake, you may get a "sweet love song". You know Stevie's all about love songs these days. Maybe it's his age idk lol

You're wrong for that one Timmy! I laugh because you're probably right. Stevie did say it's "All About The Love Again."

Ugh I still hate that song. I understand its premise but Stevie was so fucking corny on it. And had the nerve to use Autotune lmao that's why I said "Stevietron" after hearing it.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I wanna hear some hardcore funk/hip-hop jams.

I doubt it. With Stevie and Drake, you may get a "sweet love song". You know Stevie's all about love songs these days. Maybe it's his age idk lol

I'm sorry but screw Stevie's love crap. I want the funk. Not some ancient dinosaur giving us love songs. I know he has it in him. Just give it to us. We've had enough sweet damn love songs.

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

You're wrong for that one Timmy! I laugh because you're probably right. Stevie did say it's "All About The Love Again."

Ugh I still hate that song. I understand its premise but Stevie was so fucking corny on it. And had the nerve to use Autotune lmao that's why I said "Stevietron" after hearing it.

Isn't it amazing that this is the same man who wrote, "Higher Ground"? What a range?! I guess we could never "boss the bull around" and tell him something's wack.

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

Ugh I still hate that song. I understand its premise but Stevie was so fucking corny on it. And had the nerve to use Autotune lmao that's why I said "Stevietron" after hearing it.

Isn't it amazing that this is the same man who wrote, "Higher Ground"? What a range?! I guess we could never "boss the bull around" and tell him something's wack.

I know right? He's become a different artist since the mid-1980s. He's enjoying his elder statesman role a little TOO much. Yeah I said it!

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

Isn't it amazing that this is the same man who wrote, "Higher Ground"? What a range?! I guess we could never "boss the bull around" and tell him something's wack.

I know right? He's become a different artist since the mid-1980s. He's enjoying his elder statesman role a little TOO much. Yeah I said it!

Blasphemous!

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

I know right? He's become a different artist since the mid-1980s. He's enjoying his elder statesman role a little TOO much. Yeah I said it!

Blasphemous!

Well I don't mind the subject as long as it's good music. It can be a love song and have great ass music. That's all I care for. But Drake sucks.

Stevie is a very "friendly" guy when it comes to working with newer generation artists or remaking his music, compared to other artists.

Remember this bullshit? They done wrecked a classic, WITH the help of Stevie himself. smh...

I guess he is rying to stay "relevant" to the younger kids, and keep his name out there. Though he doesnt really need to.

I cant stand drake at all, and Im a big Stevie fan, so my answer to this, its a 'blessing' for drake, but 'blasphemy' for stevie. lol.

Look what I found......I just had to see it for myself

Those keys sound warm as hell though

Musicslave said:

Look what I found......I just had to see it for myself

Those keys sound warm as hell though

Why is this NO TALENT sharing the stage with Stevie?

Timmy84 said:

Dancelot, you actually stomached a "Quincy CD" with T-Drone and Akon? God bless your soul.

yes, and with good reason I think ya'll really should give this another listen and another chance, it's well worth the effort. sure there are some drop outs, I don't deny that, but the remaining tracks should still be enough for everyone to edit it into a good "album" for him/her. okay, let's break it down song by song, Dancelot style

Ironside
the musical arrangement kicks MAJOR ass, the female voice whoever it is fits perfectly to the 60s retro sound shimmering through. and the rap, well I dunno much about Talib Kweli or if he's hip or not 'n shit but for me the rap fits the song perfectly. five stars

Strawberry Letter 23
not shitting you, this was the first and only time I heard something by Akon AutoTune bullshit. unnecessary. worst track on the album.

Soul Bossa Nostra
another highlight. phenomenal harmony work by Naturally 7, the musical arrangement is top notch, and Ludacris rap flows nicely in between there somewhere.

Give me the night
again truly unnecessary. not so much because of Jamie Foxx but because it totally lacks anything resembling a proper groove. skip this.

Tomorrow
a "save" remake and while it adds nothing new to the song really, it also does not ruin it. I admit I kinda like John Legend, and he also does this pretty fine. the children choir always gets me, and so does the breezy vibraphone. on par track.

You put a move on my heart
nothing sensational about this, kinda lacks a groove again for me. next

Get the funk outta my face
Yes, that kicks ass! first strong Snoop track I've heard in years, let's be honest this would be a highlight on even Snoops earlier albums. and real horns is all it takes to convince me anyway

Secret garden
I'm a bit undecided on this... something doesn't really work here, again it lacks in the rhythm department. still a great song though and that makes listening worthhile

Betcha wouldn't hurt me
nice job, nice groove, Mary J Blige does it justice and it has Q-tip as an extra bonus. the piano break brings this over the top. like!

Everything must change
not a Quincy but more a Mervy Warren creation, and he does a good job on it. and it has Bebe Winans on lead so...

Many rains ago
this somehow shouldn't work the way it's done, but for some strange reason for me it does. can't explain really. Wycleaf Jean makes this his own.

P.Y.T.
a completely stinker. trash not so much because of AutoTune, but once again because there is NO GROOVE. Robin Thicke can't save it. trash.

It's my party
not a Quincy track but a Dap Kings/Ronson/Winehouse thingy. therefore I love it.

Hikky-Burr
touching a classic like this again shouldn't work, but for whatever reason, once again it does... I dunno anything about Three 6 Mafia or David Banner but they fit the track very well

Sanford an son
I liked this first but kinda got bored after a while, musically there is not enough happening for my taste. a so-so track

so to sum it up if you cut a few here and there from the 15 tracks, there are still enough left to make a tight album. does it hold up to Quincys earlier classics? of course not, if only for the fact that there is no new material. but it's also not the turkey people claim it is. give it a chance. song by song, and it'll eventually open up.

^ I can't take you up on the offer.

This reminds me of the Chappelle's Show skit when Dave is being interviewed in the jury selection (voir dire) process in the Michael Jackson trial. When asked if he could convict MJ, Dave's rejoinder was, "the man made Thriller . . . Thrller."

So I say, to all the grumbling, it could be justified, but the man made Talking Book, y'all. Talking Book.

namepeace said:

This reminds me of the Chappelle's Show skit when Dave is being interviewed in the jury selection (voir dire) process in the Michael Jackson trial. When asked if he could convict MJ, Dave's rejoinder was, "the man made Thriller . . . Thrller."

So I say, to all the grumbling, it could be justified, but the man made Talking Book, y'all. Talking Book.

Shouldn't "he made Innervisions... Innervisions"?

Y'all sounding more like the dude on Eddie Murphy's "Delirious" getting mad at anybody attacking the Man Wonder.

"Stevie Wonder's a musical genius! *wipes snot* "