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Reply #180 posted 08/16/11 6:43am

Pr1nceQuik

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Diamonds and Pearls is a much, much, much better album.

Dangerous was an awful album.

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Reply #181 posted 08/16/11 6:47am

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Pr1nceQuik said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Ooh, look, a spin off thread! lol

Dangerous is a billion times better than Diamonds and Pearls.

'Tis true though.

Diamonds and Pearls is a much, much, much better album.

Dangerous was an awful album.

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Reply #182 posted 08/16/11 6:48am

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Pr1nceQuik said:

Diamonds and Pearls is a much, much, much better album.

Dangerous was an awful album.

That's your opinion.
Why do you pretend to be true?
I believe that dangerous - the best album of MJ. Why must necessarily degrade the tastes of other people??

I have no doubt that in your book any album of Jackson is worse than any album Prince. Lol.
But it is very biased and unfair ....

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Reply #183 posted 08/16/11 6:50am

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LiLi1992 said:

Pr1nceQuik said:

Diamonds and Pearls is a much, much, much better album.

Dangerous was an awful album.

That's your opinion.
Why do you pretend to be true?
I believe that dangerous - the best album of MJ. Why must necessarily degrade the tastes of other people??

I have no doubt that in your book any album of Jackson is worse than any album Prince. Lol.
But it is very biased and unfair ....

EVERYONE's opinion is biased and unfair. lol

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Reply #184 posted 08/16/11 6:54am

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Pr1nceQuik said:

Diamonds and Pearls is a much, much, much better album.

Dangerous was an awful album.

yeahthat

too too much fillers on Dangerous. I like the singles though,

but Dangerous showed a biginning of weakness from MJ. The album was far from great like Thriller and Bad were before.

however: HIStory and what came after were even worse.... Dangerous was for me the beginning of the MJ decline.

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Reply #185 posted 08/16/11 6:55am

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smoothcriminal12 said:

LiLi1992 said:

That's your opinion.
Why do you pretend to be true?
I believe that dangerous - the best album of MJ. Why must necessarily degrade the tastes of other people??

I have no doubt that in your book any album of Jackson is worse than any album Prince. Lol.
But it is very biased and unfair ....

EVERYONE's opinion is biased and unfair. lol

No.
Every opinion is subjective.
But to say "a terrible album," "mediocre performer," etc. unfairly, you can just say that I do not like. Why humiliate others? neutral

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Reply #186 posted 08/16/11 8:15am

Unholyalliance

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Tittypants said:

Prince may have "pumped" too much music out though.....

There is never too much music. People r still waiting 4 a new Prince album.

Yes there is, especially when it hurts the brand, especially when it's half-assed. When there's too much supply and not enough demand, the market becomes over saturated causing the product to come down in value. No one is denying that there aren't Prince fans in existence waiting for new material, but...sometimes...it's ok to make people wait too.

I wish Pince would give himself a year or two in between albums so that he could take to time to, properly, flesh out ideas a little more. When I listen to some of his work, I hear something that may have had promise and it probably would have been pretty amazing had he taken a little more time to work on it to make it stand out a bit more. I know that once you are used to doing something for a good while, it's hard to break the habit though. I feel that there's a comfort zone that he likes to keep himself in and he, rarely, comes out of it. He's not really challenging himself as an artist imo. Even though this is my personal opinion, there are others who enjoy that and some who can't exist without it. That's ok too. I think that their standards happen to be a little lower than most, but that's ok too.

thedance said:

^ what??


and....... what the f*** are YOU Wacko fans doing here on prince.org,

after all this is not Wacko.com - this is a Prince fansite........ isn't it???

Wtf are you? A child? Anyone who wants to come here can. Don't like it? Create your own We Kiss Prince's Ass 24/7" forum then.


thedance said:

you MJ fans are sooo fanatic, you believe Jackson was the greatest on the planet, like music is the olympic games or something.

OH FUCK THE IRONY.

Actually, this entire thread is ironic which is why I know it's the most active out of the other ones created.

Pr1nceQuik said:

Diamonds and Pearls is a much, much, much better album.

Dangerous was an awful album.

NOPE. That's just the Prince stan in you talking.

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Reply #187 posted 08/16/11 8:22am

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smoothcriminal12 said:

LiLi1992 said:

That's your opinion.
Why do you pretend to be true?
I believe that dangerous - the best album of MJ. Why must necessarily degrade the tastes of other people??

I have no doubt that in your book any album of Jackson is worse than any album Prince. Lol.
But it is very biased and unfair ....

EVERYONE's opinion is biased and unfair. lol

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Reply #188 posted 08/16/11 8:28am

mjscarousal

WOW Are the Prince fans REALLY that mad JUST because Dangerous is better than a Prince album???

Did I hear a earthquake?

Shit the whole world not coming to no end... kill that noise.

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Reply #189 posted 08/16/11 8:47am

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Reply #190 posted 08/16/11 8:51am

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Ok, this is annoying.

No one isn't going to be honest about which is better. You have die hard MJ and Prince fans here.

I personally think 1999 is better than Thriller, Sign is better than Bad, and Diamonds and Pearls is better than Dangerous. Not because I'm a Prince fan, simply because his music is much more interesting to me. He plays all the instruments, dance,talks about sex, has a cool personality etc...

Some people are just picking their favorite artist album even though they know the other album is better. That's loyalty.

[Edited 8/16/11 8:52am]

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Reply #191 posted 08/16/11 8:53am

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TylerHippie said:

Ok, this is annoying.

No one isn't going to be honest about which is better. You have die hard MJ and Prince here.

I personally think 1999 is better than Thriller, Sign is better than Bad, and Diamonds and Pearls is better than Dangerous. Not because I'm a Prince fan, simply because his music is much more interesting to me. He plays all the instruments, dance,talks about sex, has a cool personality etc...

Some people are just picking their favorite artist album even though they know the other album is better. That's loyalty.

That's not really true, to be honest.

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Reply #192 posted 08/16/11 8:54am

Unholyalliance

TylerHippie said:

Ok, this is annoying.

No one isn't going to be honest about which is better. You have die hard MJ and Prince fans here.

I personally think 1999 is better than Thriller, Sign is better than Bad, and Diamonds and Pearls is better than Dangerous. Not because I'm a Prince fan, simply because his music is much more interesting to me. He plays all the instruments, dance,talks about sex, has a cool personality etc...

Some people are just picking their favorite artist album even though they know the other album is better. That's loyalty.

Like you just did.

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Reply #193 posted 08/16/11 8:58am

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Unholyalliance said:

TylerHippie said:

Ok, this is annoying.

No one isn't going to be honest about which is better. You have die hard MJ and Prince fans here.

I personally think 1999 is better than Thriller, Sign is better than Bad, and Diamonds and Pearls is better than Dangerous. Not because I'm a Prince fan, simply because his music is much more interesting to me. He plays all the instruments, dance,talks about sex, has a cool personality etc...

Some people are just picking their favorite artist album even though they know the other album is better. That's loyalty.

Like you just did.

No, I actually think Diamonds and Pearls is better than Dangerous.

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Reply #194 posted 08/16/11 9:02am

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TylerHippie said:

Ok, this is annoying.

No one isn't going to be honest about which is better. You have die hard MJ and Prince fans here.

I personally think 1999 is better than Thriller, Sign is better than Bad, and Diamonds and Pearls is better than Dangerous. Not because I'm a Prince fan, simply because his music is much more interesting to me. He plays all the instruments, dance,talks about sex, has a cool personality etc...

Some people are just picking their favorite artist album even though they know the other album is better. That's loyalty.

[Edited 8/16/11 8:52am]

Music - a very subjective thing.
It is impossible to say exactly what the album is better because it all depends on what criterion is dominant in comparison.
Jackson music is more universal and understandable. He wanted to create a massive music, clear and close to all.
Prince music more original and complex.
Which is better: the universality and accessibility, or the originality and complexity? It is impossible to answer this question objectively.
Everywhere has its + and -

So yes, tastes - the dominant component of our assessment records.

For me:

Thriller is better than 1999

Sign is better than Bad

Dangreous is better than Diamonds and Pearls


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Reply #195 posted 08/16/11 9:05am

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LiLi1992 said:

TylerHippie said:

Ok, this is annoying.

No one isn't going to be honest about which is better. You have die hard MJ and Prince fans here.

I personally think 1999 is better than Thriller, Sign is better than Bad, and Diamonds and Pearls is better than Dangerous. Not because I'm a Prince fan, simply because his music is much more interesting to me. He plays all the instruments, dance,talks about sex, has a cool personality etc...

Some people are just picking their favorite artist album even though they know the other album is better. That's loyalty.

[Edited 8/16/11 8:52am]

Music - a very subjective thing.
It is impossible to say exactly what the album is better because it all depends on what criterion is dominant in comparison.
Jackson music is more universal and understandable. He wanted to create a massive music, clear and close to all.
Prince music more original and complex.
Which is better: the universality and accessibility, or the originality and complexity? It is impossible to answer this question objectively.
Everywhere has its + and -

So yes, tastes - the dominant component of our assessment records.

For me:

Thriller is better than 1999

Sign is better than Bad

Dangreous is better than Diamonds and Pearls


What about Off The Wall vs Prince? aha

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Reply #196 posted 08/16/11 9:05am

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Yeah, I used to say that Bad < SOTT, but now I say that Crystal Ball < SOTT < Bad.

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Reply #197 posted 08/16/11 9:21am

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TylerHippie said:

What about Off The Wall vs Prince? aha

I can not really decide. ((:
Prince album more interesting and very original.
Off The Wall is very cheerful and positive. This is probably the easiest album to listen to Jackson, there is no depression or social issues.
That is why I love these albums equally, and what about you? ((:

Music is so varied that much also depends on the culture in which we live. For example, I'm from Eastern Europe. Earth Song - the most popular song of Jackson in our area. I do not know a single person who would not like it, Earth Song will always win in any poll, but people from Western Europe and the U.S. hate this song for the most part. It is amazing how different we are culturally ((:

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Reply #198 posted 08/16/11 9:24am

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smoothcriminal12 said:

Yeah, I used to say that Bad < SOTT, but now I say that Crystal Ball < SOTT < Bad.

Do you realize you're using "less than" signs?

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Reply #199 posted 08/16/11 9:24am

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LiLi1992 said:

TylerHippie said:

What about Off The Wall vs Prince? aha

I can not really decide. ((:
Prince album more interesting and very original.
Off The Wall is very cheerful and positive. This is probably the easiest album to listen to Jackson, there is no depression or social issues.
That is why I love these albums equally, and what about you? ((:

Music is so varied that much also depends on the culture in which we live. For example, I'm from Eastern Europe. Earth Song - the most popular song of Jackson in our area. I do not know a single person who would not like it, Earth Song will always win in any poll, but people from Western Europe and the U.S. hate this song for the most part. It is amazing how different we are culturally ((:

I'd choose Prince. Simply because of the content. Bambi and Sexy Dancer are killers.

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Reply #200 posted 08/16/11 9:25am

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AlexdeParis said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Yeah, I used to say that Bad < SOTT, but now I say that Crystal Ball < SOTT < Bad.

Do you realize you're using "less than" signs?

Really? In school my teacher taught me that those were the greater than signs. neutral

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Reply #201 posted 08/16/11 9:28am

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smoothcriminal12 said:

AlexdeParis said:

Do you realize you're using "less than" signs?

Really? In school my teacher taught me that those were the greater than signs. neutral

eek Tell me you're pulling my leg! Argh! Back when I was learning this, they taught us to think of it as a greedy alligator. His mouth goes towards the bigger number.

4 < 8

15 < 16

42 > 23

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Reply #202 posted 08/16/11 9:30am

mjscarousal

LiLi1992 said:

TylerHippie said:

Ok, this is annoying.

No one isn't going to be honest about which is better. You have die hard MJ and Prince fans here.

I personally think 1999 is better than Thriller, Sign is better than Bad, and Diamonds and Pearls is better than Dangerous. Not because I'm a Prince fan, simply because his music is much more interesting to me. He plays all the instruments, dance,talks about sex, has a cool personality etc...

Some people are just picking their favorite artist album even though they know the other album is better. That's loyalty.

[Edited 8/16/11 8:52am]

Music - a very subjective thing.
It is impossible to say exactly what the album is better because it all depends on what criterion is dominant in comparison.
Jackson music is more universal and understandable. He wanted to create a massive music, clear and close to all.
Prince music more original and complex.
Which is better: the universality and accessibility, or the originality and complexity? It is impossible to answer this question objectively.
Everywhere has its + and -

So yes, tastes - the dominant component of our assessment records.

For me:

Thriller is better than 1999

Sign is better than Bad

Dangreous is better than Diamonds and Pearls


How is Prince MUSIC MORE original and complex than MJ's? and PLEASE dont sit and use that whole he plays 50 million instruments arguement. confused AND please dont make a dumbass case of it being more popular as if EVERYTHING that is popular is bad... lord smh

Its seems people here just only think of Michaels music has being just popular and no depth which is very insulting and very inacurate. Fine you dont have to care for the mans music but to insinuate that ALL of Prince is music is original is just down right ridiculous and beyond funny as hell. confused

And where did all these other Prince and Michael albums come from confused

This is about DANGEROUS and DIAMONDS &PEARLS.. no OTHER ALBUM...

Purple rain fans bringing up other albums to compare to validate Prince lol lol lol

Thats not the point purple hoppers

The fact of the matter is Dangerous is better than Diamonds and Pearls... period. Get mad, get angry, cry, rant, yell or scream... lol

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Reply #203 posted 08/16/11 9:32am

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TylerHippie said:

I'd choose Prince. Simply because of the content. Bambi and Sexy Dancer are killers.

Well, I thought so ((:
I'm just a bit less obsessed. wink

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Reply #204 posted 08/16/11 9:45am

Graycap23

mjscarousal said:

LiLi1992 said:

Music - a very subjective thing.
It is impossible to say exactly what the album is better because it all depends on what criterion is dominant in comparison.
Jackson music is more universal and understandable. He wanted to create a massive music, clear and close to all.
Prince music more original and complex.
Which is better: the universality and accessibility, or the originality and complexity? It is impossible to answer this question objectively.
Everywhere has its + and -

So yes, tastes - the dominant component of our assessment records.

For me:

Thriller is better than 1999

Sign is better than Bad

Dangreous is better than Diamonds and Pearls


How is Prince MUSIC MORE original and complex than MJ's? and PLEASE dont sit and use that whole he plays 50 million instruments arguement. confused AND please dont make a dumbass case of it being more popular as if EVERYTHING that is popular is bad... lord smh

Its seems people here just only think of Michaels music has being just popular and no depth which is very insulting and very inacurate. Fine you dont have to care for the mans music but to insinuate that ALL of Prince is music is original is just down right ridiculous and beyond funny as hell. confused

And where did all these other Prince and Michael albums come from confused

This is about DANGEROUS and DIAMONDS &PEARLS.. no OTHER ALBUM...

Purple rain fans bringing up other albums to compare to validate Prince lol lol lol

Thats not the point purple hoppers

The fact of the matter is Dangerous is better than Diamonds and Pearls... period. Get mad, get angry, cry, rant, yell or scream... lol

Please.............Prince does NOT required validation from anyone.

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Reply #205 posted 08/16/11 9:46am

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mjscarousal said:

How is Prince MUSIC MORE original and complex than MJ's?

Look: the music of Michael actually less complicated, the lyrics are more simple than Prince. Do I think that Michael is out of this worse? Hell, no.
Michael wanted to write a universal songs that would have liked in the USA, Ukraine, Russia, China, Jamaica, etc., he created the music beloved by all, he is a global star. Prince with his repertoire could not have become so global. Does that make it weaker? Hell, no.
They are just different, but both are very talented artists.
Michael wrote a great songs, world anthems: We the world, Heal the world, Earth Song, etc. Yes, they are not very sophisticated, but Michael did not try to make it . On the contrary. He always wanted his songs to unite the world, appeal to everyone, regardless of skin color, nationality or language. And he is great at what he did.

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Reply #206 posted 08/16/11 9:52am

mjscarousal

Graycap23 said:

mjscarousal said:

How is Prince MUSIC MORE original and complex than MJ's? and PLEASE dont sit and use that whole he plays 50 million instruments arguement. confused AND please dont make a dumbass case of it being more popular as if EVERYTHING that is popular is bad... lord smh

Its seems people here just only think of Michaels music has being just popular and no depth which is very insulting and very inacurate. Fine you dont have to care for the mans music but to insinuate that ALL of Prince is music is original is just down right ridiculous and beyond funny as hell. confused

And where did all these other Prince and Michael albums come from confused

This is about DANGEROUS and DIAMONDS &PEARLS.. no OTHER ALBUM...

Purple rain fans bringing up other albums to compare to validate Prince lol lol lol

Thats not the point purple hoppers

The fact of the matter is Dangerous is better than Diamonds and Pearls... period. Get mad, get angry, cry, rant, yell or scream... lol

Please.............Prince does NOT required validation from anyone.

Then why is this thread 7 pages long neutral

Its not the Michael Jackson fans... Yall are the ones bitchin because fans Prince as well as MJ fans have said Dangerous is the better album

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Reply #207 posted 08/16/11 9:56am

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mjscarousal said:

How is Prince MUSIC MORE original and complex than MJ's? and PLEASE dont sit and use that whole he plays 50 million instruments arguement. confused AND please dont make a dumbass case of it being more popular as if EVERYTHING that is popular is bad... lord smh

Well, I think that most people would agree that in general Prince's music is more ambitious than Michael's. Prince was much more likely to try something weird and off the wall than Michael was. Michael seemed primarily interested in crafting perfect pop songs while Prince was more interested in mixing genres and being musically adventurous. That does not mean that Prince was incapable of creating pure pop songs or that Michael did not have a more adventurous side to his music but in general Prince's music was more complex. You would never get something like N.E.W.S. from Michael.

The fact of the matter is Dangerous is better than Diamonds and Pearls... period. Get mad, get angry, cry, rant, yell or scream... lol

I believe a fact is something that you can prove and that is indisputable. There is no way to prove that one album is "better" than another. My sister loves '80s era Rod Stewart while I prefer '70s era Rod Stewart, neither one of us is wrong we just have different opinions.

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Reply #208 posted 08/16/11 10:02am

mjscarousal

LiLi1992 said:

mjscarousal said:

How is Prince MUSIC MORE original and complex than MJ's?

Look: the music of Michael actually less complicated, the lyrics are more simple than Prince. Do I think that Michael is out of this worse? Hell, no.
Michael wanted to write a universal songs that would have liked in the USA, Ukraine, Russia, China, Jamaica, etc., he created the music beloved by all, he is a global star. Prince with his repertoire could not have become so global. Does that make it weaker? Hell, no.
They are just different, but both are very talented artists.
Michael wrote a great songs, world anthems: We the world, Heal the world, Earth Song, etc. Yes, they are not very sophisticated, but Michael did not try to make it . On the contrary. He always wanted his songs to unite the world, appeal to everyone, regardless of skin color, nationality or language. And he is great at what he did.

Now I will not sit here and say some of his songs were not simple but if you are suggesting that Michael made a catalogue of simple less complicated songs than you probably havent heard alot of MJ songs lol OR just being indenial

He also covered broader subject matter than what you are suggesting. Come on now I understand that this is a Prince forum but at least be more accurate on other artists and open minded. Michael covered alot of themes and subjects in his music. He also wrote songs that had depth and not simple lyrics with mass appeal that you are suggesting. That may not be your cup of tea but he definitly did them.

Prince has done songs with simple lyrics which is why this arguement on Michael is... dumb:-|

I also dont see how that makes Prince MORE original since he catered to a certain audience because that seems to be your underlining arguement.

It is really sad that yall have turned this into a Prince vs Michael Jackson thread. Why cant we have fun and talk about both albums without all the hate and bickering.

We ALL love Prince otherwise NONE of us wouldnt be here BUT come on just because most prefer Dangerous takes nothing away from Prince... Its alll love P fans.

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Reply #209 posted 08/16/11 10:05am

Graycap23

mjscarousal said:

Graycap23 said:

Please.............Prince does NOT required validation from anyone.

Then why is this thread 7 pages long neutral

Its not the Michael Jackson fans... Yall are the ones bitchin because fans Prince as well as MJ fans have said Dangerous is the better album

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Lol..............if u like Dangerous better....good 4 u.

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