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Thread started 08/09/11 5:48pm

TylerHippie

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Was Madonna Janet Jackson Rival During The 80's?

I don't really think Whitney could get down with Janet like Madonna could.

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Reply #1 posted 08/09/11 5:50pm

smoothcriminal
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I wasn't around, so I wouldn't know, but in my opinion Madonna has NOTHING on Janet. headbang

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Reply #2 posted 08/09/11 5:51pm

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Of course it was Jan. I remember watching one of Madonna's backstage tour around 1987 and one of her dancers mentioned Janet. You should have seen her face. LOLS!

If only Cyndi had a more longer career, it would have been really interesting to see how it would have went down. Whitney is not that interesting to me. I dont know if Madonna was ever threatened by her.

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Reply #3 posted 08/09/11 5:51pm

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I think Whitney and Janet were the two big female African-American artists of the 80's, and Janet was known for starting to break out of the Jackson family shell, which would continue as she would work harder. I really believe her performances at award shows and her world tour sealed the deal, and that's when the Madonna/Janet comparisons may have started. By then, the music scene of the late 80's/early 90's was dominated by female acts too with similar styles alongside these two such as Paula Abdul, Karyn White, Taylor Dayne, Jody Watley and so forth and these two were the leading acts.

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Reply #4 posted 08/09/11 5:52pm

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They're so completely different from one another that I never compared them in order to see them as rivals in the first place. I thought they were both cool.

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Reply #5 posted 08/09/11 5:53pm

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Asymphony5 said:

Of course it was Jan. I remember watching one of Madonna's backstage tour around 1987 and one of her dancers mentioned Janet. You should have seen her face. LOLS!

If only Cyndi had a more longer career, it would have been really interesting to see how it would have went down. Whitney is not that interesting to me. I dont know if Madonna was ever threatened by her.

She has had a continuing career, she was just not as popular by that time, and also was doing acting.

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Reply #6 posted 08/09/11 5:54pm

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No, it was Lisa Lisa. Or maybe Sade & Jody Watley.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #7 posted 08/09/11 5:54pm

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Oh no! doh! Here we go again...

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Reply #8 posted 08/09/11 5:55pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Oh no! doh! Here we go again...

Here comes and 9-page debate between SEANMAN and tru....thanks Tyler. lol

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Reply #9 posted 08/09/11 5:57pm

MickyDolenz

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purplethunder3121 said:

Oh no! doh! Here we go again...

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #10 posted 08/09/11 5:59pm

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smoothcriminal12 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Oh no! doh! Here we go again...

Here comes and 9-page debate between SEANMAN and tru....thanks Tyler. lol

This one will be different: Seanman vs Truiopian or w/e, with random bitch assness from Tyler here and there. After 6 pages, Tyler will exasperatedly say, "Wow all my threads turn into debates!" while the rest of us rolleyes

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Reply #11 posted 08/09/11 6:02pm

TylerHippie

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smoothcriminal12 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Oh no! doh! Here we go again...

Here comes and 9-page debate between SEANMAN and tru....thanks Tyler. lol

LMAO! I'm sorry but I wanted to ask this from day 1.

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Reply #12 posted 08/09/11 6:06pm

MickyDolenz

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #13 posted 08/09/11 6:13pm

armpit

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MickyDolenz said:

That's probably more accurate yeah.

Or MJ and Prince.

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Reply #14 posted 08/09/11 6:17pm

alphastreet

I always loved this picture

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Reply #15 posted 08/09/11 6:20pm

lazycrockett

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This is going to be as fun to read as the Whitney thread was after a couple cocktails.

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Reply #16 posted 08/09/11 6:21pm

alphastreet

what about Appolonia or Vanity 6? lol

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Reply #17 posted 08/09/11 6:22pm

TylerHippie

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alphastreet said:

what about Appolonia or Vanity 6? lol

Vanity 6 anyday.

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Reply #18 posted 08/09/11 6:28pm

MickyDolenz

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alphastreet said:

what about Appolonia or Vanity 6? lol

Neither, it's Bananarama.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #19 posted 08/09/11 7:11pm

purplethunder3
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MickyDolenz said:

alphastreet said:

what about Appolonia or Vanity 6? lol

Neither, it's Bananarama.

Its a cruel, cruel summer....shake

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Reply #20 posted 08/09/11 7:12pm

alphastreet

this topic is a cruel cruel summer

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Reply #21 posted 08/09/11 7:29pm

MickyDolenz

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purplethunder3121 said:

MickyDolenz said:

Neither, it's Bananarama.

Its a cruel, cruel summer....shake

biggrin Charlie Wilson later did a song with them, at least the two who became Shakespeare's Sister.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #22 posted 08/09/11 7:36pm

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^ N Shakespear's Sister fuckin rocks.

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Reply #23 posted 08/09/11 7:47pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Oh no! doh! Here we go again...

Here comes and 9-page debate between SEANMAN and tru....thanks Tyler. lol

I know right? I'm waiting for that thread to get locked.

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Reply #24 posted 08/09/11 7:50pm

armpit

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alphastreet said:

this topic is a cruel cruel summer

*chuckling*

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #25 posted 08/10/11 6:36am

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I think Janet and Madonna were competition as far as the music and performances were concerned. As far as the charts and worldwide it was between Madonna and Whitney, both were tied for seven #1 singles in the 80's, the most for a female and were big album sellers.. In the black community it was Janet,Whitney and Jody.

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Reply #26 posted 08/10/11 6:41am

SoulAlive

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I love this picture lol Michael is in his heyday and Madonna looks genuinely thrilled to be in his presence.

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Reply #27 posted 08/10/11 7:04am

purplethunder3
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TylerHippie said:

I don't really think Whitney could get down with Janet like Madonna could.

No, Janet and Madonna were never rivals. Moving on... Next!!! neutral

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Reply #28 posted 08/10/11 7:23am

jsluva

^^^

Well their fans think otherwise, overall they were competing with each other because their careers took off around the same time and although they were different they were still the best female "entertainers" and they were able to be successful touring acts as well and maintained popularity through the 80's,90's and even found sucess in the 2000-2009 decade as well. Let's not forget Paula Abdul, she was definitely more of a direct competitor as well during her short little era.

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Reply #29 posted 08/10/11 7:35am

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Madonna's had several 'rivals' throughout her career. The first was Cyndi Lauper during the days of her first few albums; then as that one tapered off, here comes Whitney and Janet; then Paula was added to the mix; then Mariah and Celine.

In the end, though, Madonna keeps standing. cool I don't think any of the rest of them have been able to be as forward moving and effectively *evolve* as well as Madonna has/does.

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