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Reply #30 posted 07/12/11 6:38pm

Timmy84

babynoz said:

I hope he does get to question LiveNation...I'm not willing to dismiss his allegations so quickly. Could be something to what he says.

True. I don't trust LiveNation either.

But both sides are slimy to me. Mathew and LiveNation. lol

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Reply #31 posted 07/12/11 6:40pm

babynoz

Timmy84 said:

babynoz said:

I hope he does get to question LiveNation...I'm not willing to dismiss his allegations so quickly. Could be something to what he says.

True. I don't trust LiveNation either.

But both sides are slimy to me. Mathew and LiveNation. lol

It would be funny if Matthew turned out to be the lesser of two evils in this case. wink

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Reply #32 posted 07/12/11 6:46pm

Timmy84

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

True. I don't trust LiveNation either.

But both sides are slimy to me. Mathew and LiveNation. lol

It would be funny if Matthew turned out to be the lesser of two evils in this case. wink

I actually wouldn't be shocked if that was the case.

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Reply #33 posted 07/12/11 6:54pm

HohnerCatcher

I really don't trust a company that lured away BEYONCE by planting the idea that he stole from her. As a manager he is entitled to some money, and he obviously wanted the best for her all along (Exhibit A: her career).

I heard she left Mathew's management but I didn't know she went to fucking LiveNation! Her husband Jay-Z took his brand to them too, after the American Gangster album.

Beyonce will probably inherit Mathew's earnings anyway. lol Why not stick with him?

I like the idea of her "gaining control" like Janet and taking her management elsewhere and out from her father. But Mathew never hampered her growth like Joseph hampered Janet's.

And going to Live Nation just seems like a sucker move. Good luck earning more with them! (What do I know anyway? lol)

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Reply #34 posted 07/12/11 6:54pm

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I hope he does get to question LiveNation...I'm not willing to dismiss his allegations so quickly. Could be something to what he says.

nod I was thinking the same thing. It seems like a conflict of interest on LN's part at the least. And isn't it illegal to use false info interfere with someone's client relationship? I can't remember the exact term but that's stuck in my mind for some reason.

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Reply #35 posted 07/12/11 6:55pm

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

babynoz said:

I hope he does get to question LiveNation...I'm not willing to dismiss his allegations so quickly. Could be something to what he says.

nod I was thinking the same thing. It seems like a conflict of interest on LN's part at the least. And isn't it illegal to use false info interfere with someone's client relationship? I can't remember the exact term but that's stuck in my mind for some reason.

Yeah from what I'm reading it definitely sounds like LN set it up just so Beyonce could leave him.

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Reply #36 posted 07/12/11 6:58pm

HohnerCatcher

SCNDLS said:

babynoz said:

I hope he does get to question LiveNation...I'm not willing to dismiss his allegations so quickly. Could be something to what he says.

nod I was thinking the same thing. It seems like a conflict of interest on LN's part at the least. And isn't it illegal to use false info interfere with someone's client relationship? I can't remember the exact term but that's stuck in my mind for some reason.

inducing breach of contract.

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Reply #37 posted 07/12/11 7:02pm

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SCNDLS said:

nod I was thinking the same thing. It seems like a conflict of interest on LN's part at the least. And isn't it illegal to use false info interfere with someone's client relationship? I can't remember the exact term but that's stuck in my mind for some reason.

inducing breach of contract.

yeahthat

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Reply #38 posted 07/12/11 7:05pm

Timmy84

Like I said, it's gonna be a mess.

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Reply #39 posted 07/12/11 7:29pm

babynoz

HohnerCatcher said:

SCNDLS said:

nod I was thinking the same thing. It seems like a conflict of interest on LN's part at the least. And isn't it illegal to use false info interfere with someone's client relationship? I can't remember the exact term but that's stuck in my mind for some reason.

inducing breach of contract.

Thanks. I wouldn't put it past LiveNation.

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Reply #40 posted 07/12/11 7:31pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

It also may come out that Beyonce & her papa sabataged Ms. Kelly Rowland career. Very strange how successful she has become since leaving them.

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Reply #41 posted 07/13/11 7:11am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

It also may come out that Beyonce & her papa sabataged Ms. Kelly Rowland career. Very strange how successful she has become since leaving them.

nod Now THAT would be interesting if that were to happen, as well as all the other dirt that Bey and papa did to make sure she came out on top.

Thanks HappyPerson for posting those interviews, that was really eye opening!

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Reply #42 posted 07/13/11 7:29am

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If this IS true

1. Not suprising

2. What goes around comes around. You cant spend your entire life acting like a spoiled brat just because your father is the manager and screw over everyone in a group. One person is NOT a group. A group consists of MORE than one person and in that interview Farrah was right. If she wanted to talk to Matthew about HER BUSINESS than she should be able to do that WITHOUT Beyonce being there... just a mess. I have no sympathy for her or her father. And I hope the skeletons and dirty laundry about that group comes out because the truth needs to be told.

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Reply #43 posted 07/13/11 8:17am

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mjscarousal said:

If this IS true

1. Not suprising

2. What goes around comes around. You cant spend your entire life acting like a spoiled brat just because your father is the manager and screw over everyone in a group. One person is NOT a group. A group consists of MORE than one person and in that interview Farrah was right. If she wanted to talk to Matthew about HER BUSINESS than she should be able to do that WITHOUT Beyonce being there... just a mess. I have no sympathy for her or her father. And I hope the skeletons and dirty laundry about that group comes out because the truth needs to be told.

yeahthat nod

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Reply #44 posted 07/13/11 9:34am

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matthew made sure these girls kiss beyonce's feet smh they seem kinda intimidated anwereing the question

here's an old interview by Farrah about him

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Interviewer: Was it worth it? I mean, I don't know anything about how much you were paid while you were in the group, but was it worth it financially? Did it help you pay your bills?

Farrah: Yeah, it was worth it financially. I was making more, of course, than I was making before. So the money wasn't really an issue. It was just an issue of being unhappy. And there's no amount of money that could make me stay anywhere if I'm miserable. So when I got off the phone I went to Houston. Mathew said hi to me the next morning and I'm really upset still. I'm sick and I'm upset and I don't want to speak to him because I don't want to say the wrong thing. And Beyonc remarked "Did you hear my dad say hi?" And I said,"Yeah, I heard him say hi and I didn't speak to him for a reason." So she said,"Well if you don't want to speak to him you don't gotta speak to me either." So I started clapping and I said "Good, well my day is gonna go much easier." That was another thing. You couldn't say anything or have a conversation without the daughter being there. Then it was too personal. I mean, you should be able to have discussion with your group, you should be able to have a discussion with your manager. I mean, you're gonna have disputes. Thats gonna happen but if you can't even do that, then nothing is gonna get solved. I mean, we could not even talk about anythng. We were paying her sister, Solange Knowles, to come with us. We were paying for her flights, we were paying for her hotel rooms.

Interviewer: How old is her sister?

Farrah: She's 14. We were paying for her flights, her airline tickets, and we were giving her per diem.
Interviewer: Who? The group?

Farrah: Yes. This was coming out of my check and she wasn't doing anything. She was supposed to be a dancer, but she never danced for us until I left the group. So when I asked why we were paying her, my manager was like,"Why do you care about where $300 is going when you're getting paid this?" And I'm like I don't care if I'm getting paid 1 million, if I want to know where five of my dollars are going there shouldn't be a problem with me asking. When I asked about money there was a problem. When I asked why our expenses were so high there was a problem. I mean, I asked a lot of questions. I am and independent person. I've been on my own since I was 15 years old, so I'm gonna ask questions. It seemed like whenever I asked questions about anything it was a problem and it was always me. It got a to a point where when I saw Mathew coming I knew did something. And I was like, why me? But I ean, I asked too many questions. I flew home on our days off and they told me that I went home too much. Now mind you, we only get four days off. We were supposed to get eight, but it went down to four. So they told me I flew home too much. Now pat for my own flights home and I pay for my own flights back. I get my own car pick-ups and everything. I don't ask anybody to do anything for me. All I ask is when do I need to be back for work. I think pretty much I was just too independent. Mathew is a controlling person and everything was under his control. I had control over what I was doing in my life and I don't think he liked that.

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Farrah: Oh, she's going solo. That's a known fact. Also, another thing is she told us she was going solo about a
month ago. I have friends in the industry and I know that she's been working on her album. She's been
telling everybody she's not going solo and she's not doing anything but she has been working on her album. She's supposed to have her album out in December. So that means Destiny's Child is only going to be able to put out two more albums. All you see now is Beyonc. so I don't think her solo album is going to be much different than Destiny's Child. All you hear now is her. All you see is her. It's just
gonna be two less people, and they'll probably be singing background for her, which is what they're doing now.

I always neutral when people act as if Beyonce and her family have always been clean and have never done anything wrong.

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Reply #45 posted 07/13/11 9:42am

kibbles

SCNDLS said:

babynoz said:

I hope he does get to question LiveNation...I'm not willing to dismiss his allegations so quickly. Could be something to what he says.

nod I was thinking the same thing. It seems like a conflict of interest on LN's part at the least. And isn't it illegal to use false info interfere with someone's client relationship? I can't remember the exact term but that's stuck in my mind for some reason.

i believe it's called tortorious interference. matthew is basically claiming that against live nation.

i'm not sure breach of contract is the right term, but i suppose it could come into play. a breach is when a party does not perform their duties under the contract, or does something that would render the contract void. perhaps beyonce did accuse matthew of a breach by his alleged fraud and theft against her, and so she terminated the contract. but i'm not sure breach is the proper term in live nation's case.

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Reply #46 posted 07/13/11 10:45am

Timmy84

mjscarousal said:

If this IS true

1. Not suprising

2. What goes around comes around. You cant spend your entire life acting like a spoiled brat just because your father is the manager and screw over everyone in a group. One person is NOT a group. A group consists of MORE than one person and in that interview Farrah was right. If she wanted to talk to Matthew about HER BUSINESS than she should be able to do that WITHOUT Beyonce being there... just a mess. I have no sympathy for her or her father. And I hope the skeletons and dirty laundry about that group comes out because the truth needs to be told.

What happened during the Destiny's Child years was a mess. It's slowly emerging how Beyonce got top billing (and not just because she was Mathew's daughter).

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Reply #47 posted 07/13/11 10:52am

KCOOLMUZIQ

NaughtyKitty said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

It also may come out that Beyonce & her papa sabataged Ms. Kelly Rowland career. Very strange how successful she has become since leaving them.

nod Now THAT would be interesting if that were to happen, as well as all the other dirt that Bey and papa did to make sure she came out on top.

Thanks HappyPerson for posting those interviews, that was really eye opening!

i admire Beyonce. Because she is a really hard worker and earned her success & deserves it. But it always has been something about her, that rubs me the wrong way. I can't put my finger on it. It is something that is just not right. But she is at the top of her game. No other female artist can touch her in her generation..

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #48 posted 07/13/11 2:04pm

HohnerCatcher

kibbles said:

SCNDLS said:

nod I was thinking the same thing. It seems like a conflict of interest on LN's part at the least. And isn't it illegal to use false info interfere with someone's client relationship? I can't remember the exact term but that's stuck in my mind for some reason.

i believe it's called tortorious interference. matthew is basically claiming that against live nation.

i'm not sure breach of contract is the right term, but i suppose it could come into play. a breach is when a party does not perform their duties under the contract, or does something that would render the contract void. perhaps beyonce did accuse matthew of a breach by his alleged fraud and theft against her, and so she terminated the contract. but i'm not sure breach is the proper term in live nation's case.

that's right. it's interference when you "induce" a breach of contract. if he already let Beyonce dissolve their agreement, this might be too late.

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Reply #49 posted 07/13/11 4:33pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

NaughtyKitty said:

nod Now THAT would be interesting if that were to happen, as well as all the other dirt that Bey and papa did to make sure she came out on top.

Thanks HappyPerson for posting those interviews, that was really eye opening!

i admire Beyonce. Because she is a really hard worker and earned her success & deserves it. But it always has been something about her, that rubs me the wrong way. I can't put my finger on it. It is something that is just not right. But she is at the top of her game. No other female artist can touch her in her generation..

no she does not deserve all her success. Daddy put in a lot of work to pull strings and get favors. Her work alone, would not gain such success. I don't believe beyonce would be as big as she is now, if she didn't have daddy, even if she had the SAME blueprint career she has now.

She doesn't work any harder than anyone else.

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Reply #50 posted 07/13/11 4:38pm

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It's a family affair-aiiirr

It's a family affair-aiirr

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Reply #51 posted 07/13/11 8:46pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

TotalAlisa said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

i admire Beyonce. Because she is a really hard worker and earned her success & deserves it. But it always has been something about her, that rubs me the wrong way. I can't put my finger on it. It is something that is just not right. But she is at the top of her game. No other female artist can touch her in her generation..

no she does not deserve all her success. Daddy put in a lot of work to pull strings and get favors. Her work alone, would not gain such success. I don't believe beyonce would be as big as she is now, if she didn't have daddy, even if she had the SAME blueprint career she has now.

She doesn't work any harder than anyone else.

Of course her Daddy was part of it. She was still a minor when she started. But she is a hard worker. U can't get that big & @ the top without working hard & stepping on others & being ruthless. The music industry is very shady.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #52 posted 07/13/11 8:53pm

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Reply #53 posted 07/13/11 9:35pm

Timmy84

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evillol Khia...

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Reply #54 posted 07/14/11 11:10am

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Timmy84 said:

paisleypark4 said:

evillol Khia...

Chile I had to sit down and read all the drama going on in this thread giggle
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Reply #55 posted 07/14/11 12:14pm

Timmy84

paisleypark4 said:

Timmy84 said:

evillol Khia...

Chile I had to sit down and read all the drama going on in this thread giggle

lol I wonder who's gonna do a Qaadir and "clock the tea" on this bitch. falloff

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Reply #56 posted 07/14/11 4:56pm

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Beyonce's father denies stealing from her

NEW YORK (AP) — Mathew Knowles insists he still has an amicable relationship with his daughter Beyonce — even though she dumped him as her manager two months ago — but is alleging that people close to her have tried to destroy his reputation with allegations that he stole from her.

Knowles filed papers in a Texas court this week alleging that members of Beyonce's camp, which he says includes her label, Columbia Records, Live Nation and her superstar husband Jay-Z's Roc Nation, have made "negative comments about me."

"We absolutely have not taken any money from Beyonce, and all dollars will be accounted for," he told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday afternoon. "In no way have we stole money. Again, this about the people who have made these claims — they have to come into the light."

Knowles guided his daughter's career since she was child, first to superstardom as part of the group Destiny's Child, and then as she continued with her blockbuster solo career. Beyonce has sold millions of records, won numerous Grammys, is a lucrative spokeswoman for different products, and has also had considerable success in film with movies like the Oscar-winning "Dreamgirls" and the movie "Obsessed."

When Beyonce announced in May that she would no longer use her father to guide her career, she stressed that at almost 30, she was ready to take control of her own affairs and pledged her adoration for him.

"He is my father for life and I love my dad dearly. I am grateful for everything he has taught me," Beyonce said at the time.

On Thursday, Knowles said he had no problem with his daughter.

"The relationship with Beyonce is extremely amicable. I want to make that clear. Where there's concern is the people that she's doing business with," he said. "I'm challenging all of these folks on integrity, professional integrity."

Knowles said he does not believe the allegations that he stole money from her are the reason why he was fired, and said his daughter completely cleaned house: "She changed almost every aspect of her business."

But he painted a picture of a concerted effort to oust him from the helm of her career.

"The team ironically appeared to be a cross-pollination of Beyonce's team, Roc Nation's team, and Live Nation's team, who ironically have the most to gain," he said.

When asked if there was a deliberate plan to take him out of the equation, he said: "I'll let people come to their own conclusion."

Knowles said he has not spoken to his daughter specifically about the allegations, but at one point told her: "The only way we will be able to understand this is through a court of law. That's the only way either one of us will be clear if someone in our camps did something that was not correct."

Beyonce released her fourth solo album, "4," last month, and it debuted at the top of the charts, and remained at the top for the second week in a row this week. Still, it has yet to produce the kind of massive hits that Beyonce has charted routinely during her career, which has spanned more than a decade.

Knowles blames her camp and her label for that. "They put out the record in a vacuum," he said, adding that her success came despite setbacks.

"It makes you believe that there are some artists that don't need radio. There are some records that don't need a record label, and Beyonce is one of those artists," he said.

While Knowles had only positive things to say about his daughter, he acknowledged when asked that he they have not spoken since she let him go.

"We have not had that conversation," he said.

Representatives for Beyonce and Roc Nation did not respond to requests for comment. Columbia Records and Live Nation had no comment.

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http://news.yahoo.com/bey...41279.html

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Reply #57 posted 07/14/11 5:55pm

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Let the games begin! Since being accused of stealing money from his daughter Beyonce, Mathew Knowles has been quite outspoken regarding his innocence and has now addressed another issue of equal importance – the failure of her ’4′ album to produce any hit singles.

The music mogul spoke to the Associated Press about the situation and was very blunt about her new management’s inability to handle her career. Read what Knowles had to say below:

”They put out the record in a vacuum,” he said, adding that her success came despite setbacks.

“It makes you believe that there are some artists that don’t need radio. There are some records that don’t need a record label, and Beyonce is one of those artists,” he said.

While Knowles had only positive things to say about his daughter, he acknowledged when asked that he they have not spoken since she let him go.

Knowles filed papers in a Texas court this week alleging that members of Beyonce’s camp, which he says includes her label, Columbia Records, Live Nation and her superstar husband Jay-Z’s Roc Nation, have made “negative comments about me.”

“We absolutely have not taken any money from Beyonce, and all dollars will be accounted for,” he told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday afternoon. “In no way have we stole money. Again, this about the people who have made these claims — they have to come into the light.”

On Thursday, Knowles said he had no problem with his daughter.

“The relationship with Beyonce is extremely amicable. I want to make that clear. Where there’s concern is the people that she’s doing business with,” he said. “I’m challenging all of these folks on integrity, professional integrity.”

Knowles said he does not believe the allegations that he stole money from her are the reason why he was fired, and said his daughter completely cleaned house: “She changed almost every aspect of her business.”

But he painted a picture of a concerted effort to oust him from the helm of her career.

“The team ironically appeared to be a cross-pollination of Beyonce’s team, Roc Nation’s team, and Live Nation’s team, who ironically have the most to gain,” he said.

When asked if there was a deliberate plan to take him out of the equation, he said: “I’ll let people come to their own conclusion.”

Knowles said he has not spoken to his daughter specifically about the allegations, but at one point told her: “The only way we will be able to understand this is through a court of law. That’s the only way either one of us will be clear if someone in our camps did something that was not correct.”

Read more via the AP.

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Reply #58 posted 07/15/11 5:59am

SoulAlive

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It also may come out that Beyonce & her papa sabataged Ms. Kelly Rowland career. Very strange how successful she has become since leaving them.

I wouldn't be surprised.Matthew comes across as such a shady,deceitful character.Beyonce was wise to fire his lying ass.

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[Edited 7/15/11 6:11am]

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Reply #59 posted 07/15/11 6:30am

Ottensen

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NaughtyKitty said:

Beyonce's Dad: I Didn't Steal from My Daughter!

Beyonce's dad has filed legal papers which now explain why the singer fired him as her manager -- he claims she's under the impression he stole lots of money from her, and say it's a bad rap.

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In the documents -- obtained by TMZ -- Mathew Knowles claims Live Nation Entertainment wanted desperately to sink its fangs into Beyonce's 2011 world tour. According to the docs, Mathew claims Live Nation told Beyonce that Mathew "had stolen money from Beyonce on her most recent tour or otherwise taken funds that [he] was not entitled to."

Mathew claims Live Nation was effective, because Beyonce had her law firm conduct an audit, and the law firm concluded Mathew had indeed pilfered money from her. Beyonce then fired him.

Mathew claims after he was canned, Beyonce hired a manager who had worked as a former exec at Live Nation and maintained a relationship with the company.

Mathew insists the theft accusations by Live Nation are false, and he wants the judge to give him the right to take depositions of various people at Live Nation, to determine just how they concluded he was a thief.

We could not reach Beyonce's rep for comment.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/0...e-manager/

Poor Mathew. It's a shame when you raise a child to be a powerthristy ruthless diva and then she turns around and goes all diva on you.

Who do you think she learned it from? lol Knowles' reputation within the industry doesn't doesn't exactly paint him as a shrinking violet. He has been known to leave many an impressionable music peon less powerful than those in his dynasty shaking in their boots from threats and bullying (where money negotiations are concerned).

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