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Thread started 06/29/11 1:27am

blackbob

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the rolling stones...overrated ?

the rolling stones...hmmm....they are rated as the 2nd most critically acclaimed act of the last 50 years at acclaimedmusic.net...only the beatles are more highly thought of but..i have to be honest...i have always thought they were overrated....going by their hit singles...i have yet to make it through one of their albums...i listened to most of exile on main street but i couldnt see what the fuss was about.....i have always thought the beatles were head and shoulders above them..but i am open to having my mind changed on this..

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so...what rolling stones album should i sit down and listen to all the way through ?...what is their most brilliant work in your opinion ?...dont get me wrong....i DO like a lot of their singles so there is a chance i could be convinced they deserve such high praise...

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Reply #1 posted 06/29/11 1:33am

Timmy84

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Reply #2 posted 06/29/11 6:00am

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[img:$uid]http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j220/gowes/2zoadqr.gif[/img:$uid]

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Reply #3 posted 06/29/11 6:14am

gemari77

I like The Stones... I don't own any records and I'm not a huge fan, but I like them--same with AC/DC and countless other veteran acts.

I have a hard to time labeling these veteran acts as overrated. They've obviously hit on something that has resonated with millions of people and generation after generation. They've stood the test of time.

And, I do like many of the songs...even some of their 80's and 90's stuff. When you think about the things that these artists achieved musically and as songwriters since the primitive 60's, it kinda' makes you appreciate their work more. For me, anyway. I think they were highly influential and made a huge impact.

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Reply #4 posted 06/29/11 8:23am

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[Edited 6/29/11 8:24am]

2012: The Queen Returns
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Reply #5 posted 06/29/11 8:57am

Unholyalliance

What musical act isn't overrated as all hell?

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Reply #6 posted 06/29/11 8:59am

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If you're not fussed but want an intro get this.

cool

My own personal tastes are 68 through 75 and not alot since but this is a great compilation.

She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo

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Reply #7 posted 06/29/11 9:17am

robertlove

Yes they are...to me at least. They always sound the same. It's probably has to do with the time they became famous.

I didn't grow up with The Beatles either, but i can see the magic there. Never saw it with The Stones.

At the end, they only had one good track...Miss you....that's it.

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Reply #8 posted 06/29/11 9:20am

RKJCNE

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I'll take Exile in Guyville over mainstreet anyday.

2012: The Queen Returns
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Reply #9 posted 06/29/11 10:18am

Empress

Not in my opinion. Their catalogue of work is phenomenal! Many songs are downright perfect.

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Reply #10 posted 06/29/11 10:56am

Dogsinthetrees

Not overrated. Try Sticky Fingers. If you don't like that album, give up, you aren't going to be into them. Going by just the hits you hear on radio is a bad thing. They have album cuts that are way cooler than the radio songs. "Moonlight Mile"!!!

I'm just saying...
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Reply #11 posted 06/29/11 11:07am

Timmy84

Dogsinthetrees said:

Not overrated. Try Sticky Fingers. If you don't like that album, give up, you aren't going to be into them. Going by just the hits you hear on radio is a bad thing. They have album cuts that are way cooler than the radio songs. "Moonlight Mile"!!!

Exactly.

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Reply #12 posted 06/29/11 11:32am

mjscarousal

Lovee them...NO!

Smh.. @ the threads yall make LOL

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Reply #13 posted 06/29/11 1:21pm

Timmy84

mjscarousal said:

Lovee them...NO!

Smh.. @ the threads yall make LOL

Boredom. Gotta love it. razz

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Reply #14 posted 06/29/11 2:16pm

JoeTyler

The SECOND best group of all time

Nuff said

Period.

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Reply #15 posted 06/29/11 2:18pm

JoeTyler

RKJCNE said:

[Edited 6/29/11 8:24am]

best thing I've seen this week!

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Reply #16 posted 06/29/11 2:19pm

JoeTyler

TD3 said:

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Reply #17 posted 06/29/11 2:42pm

rialb

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This is prbably my favourite Rolling Stones song:

I'd like to nominate this song for best use of a marimba in a rock song:

Great guitar sound on this one:

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Reply #18 posted 06/29/11 3:28pm

blackbob

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ok ...thanks...i will check out sticky fingers...i already have 40 licks...like most of it..but i struggle with their studio albums...but i will give it another listen...cheers

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Reply #19 posted 07/01/11 7:57pm

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Blackbob, how old are you?

I think you cannot really appreciate the true "weight" of an artist/s unless you were there in the time they were coming to prominence.

If you don't "get" the significance of the Stones by tuning in to what would be just "oldies" to you, I fully understand. It's an issue of context.

Take it from a 62 year old who came of age with the Beatles and the Stones. Although they are two different bands they were both a major part of the times- the emergence of rock and roll beyond the Elvis, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis years and the British Invasion.

For one my age you cannot really separate the Beatles and the Stones from each other in that they were like yin and yang on the musical landscape back in the day; the clean cut mop tops at one end of the spectrum and the dangerous raggedy crew at the other end.

Hope that helps.

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TD3 said:

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Don't know which is funnier this or Timmy's Elvis gif.

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Reply #21 posted 07/01/11 9:56pm

Timmy84

phunkdaddy said:

TD3 said:

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Don't know which is funnier this or Timmy's Elvis gif.

lol That gif is always gonna be classic! lol But yeah it's like "huh? overrated by whom?" lol

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Reply #22 posted 07/02/11 4:34am

JoeTyler

Bob, here's a short list of album tracks that perhaps you'll like even more than the singles/hits wink

-Connection

-Salt of the Earth

-Live With Me

-Dead Flowers

-Moonlight Mile

-Rocks Off

-Torn & Frayed

-Shine a Light

-Worried About You

-Thru and Thru

-How Can I Stop

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Reply #23 posted 07/02/11 5:21am

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JoeTyler said:

Bob, here's a short list of album tracks that perhaps you'll like even more than the singles/hits wink

-Connection

-Salt of the Earth

-Live With Me

-Dead Flowers

-Moonlight Mile

-Rocks Off

-Torn & Frayed

-Shine a Light

-Worried About You

-Thru and Thru

-How Can I Stop

hmmm

For the longest time my collection ended with Undercover. I eventually did get Dirty Work and Steel Wheels but was left unimpressed enough to not bother with anything after them. Are Voodoo Lounge and Bridges to Babylon worth a listen or are there just a few decent tracks on them? I recall that A Bigger Bang got great reviews but whatever the lead single was did not leave much of an impression on me.

I don't think they are doing themselves any favours by making hour long albums at this stage in their career. It would probably be much easier for them to crank out a solid ten track/forty minute album.

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Reply #24 posted 07/02/11 5:28am

JoeTyler

rialb said:

JoeTyler said:

Bob, here's a short list of album tracks that perhaps you'll like even more than the singles/hits wink

-Connection

-Salt of the Earth

-Live With Me

-Dead Flowers

-Moonlight Mile

-Rocks Off

-Torn & Frayed

-Shine a Light

-Worried About You

-Thru and Thru

-How Can I Stop

hmmm

For the longest time my collection ended with Undercover. I eventually did get Dirty Work and Steel Wheels but was left unimpressed enough to not bother with anything after them. Are Voodoo Lounge and Bridges to Babylon worth a listen or are there just a few decent tracks on them? I recall that A Bigger Bang got great reviews but whatever the lead single was did not leave much of an impression on me.

I don't think they are doing themselves any favours by making hour long albums at this stage in their career. It would probably be much easier for them to crank out a solid ten track/forty minute album.

Voodoo Lounge was the REAL return to form. Not a masterpiece, but still their best album since Tattoo You. Definitely worth owning. 3,5/5

Bridges,,, puff, few great tracks, some failed experiments with trip-hop/electro, and some filler. Check it out, but it's not essential. 2,5 / 5

Bigger Bang: a truly strong record, in my opinion. Solid, kick-ass hard-rock by veteran legends. 4/5

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JoeTyler said:

rialb said:

hmmm

For the longest time my collection ended with Undercover. I eventually did get Dirty Work and Steel Wheels but was left unimpressed enough to not bother with anything after them. Are Voodoo Lounge and Bridges to Babylon worth a listen or are there just a few decent tracks on them? I recall that A Bigger Bang got great reviews but whatever the lead single was did not leave much of an impression on me.

I don't think they are doing themselves any favours by making hour long albums at this stage in their career. It would probably be much easier for them to crank out a solid ten track/forty minute album.

Voodoo Lounge was the REAL return to form. Not a masterpiece, but still their best album since Tattoo You. Definitely worth owning. 3,5/5

Bridges,,, puff, few great tracks, some failed experiments with trip-hop/electro, and some filler. Check it out, but it's not essential. 2,5 / 5

Bigger Bang: a truly strong record, in my opinion. Solid, kick-ass hard-rock by veteran legends. 4/5

If I see them cheap enough I'll pick them up.

By the way, no fair changing your avatar. I am used to Clint chewing a cigar and I fear change.

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Reply #26 posted 07/02/11 5:54am

JoeTyler

rialb said:

JoeTyler said:

Voodoo Lounge was the REAL return to form. Not a masterpiece, but still their best album since Tattoo You. Definitely worth owning. 3,5/5

Bridges,,, puff, few great tracks, some failed experiments with trip-hop/electro, and some filler. Check it out, but it's not essential. 2,5 / 5

Bigger Bang: a truly strong record, in my opinion. Solid, kick-ass hard-rock by veteran legends. 4/5

If I see them cheap enough I'll pick them up.

By the way, no fair changing your avatar. I am used to Clint chewing a cigar and I fear change.


Clint will BE back. wink nod

right now, I'm so into Roman history so...that pissed off roman senator will stay for some weeks, lol

anyway, If I were you, and considering that Bridges is nothing special, I would burn the best of Voodoo Lounge (erase the filler: SweetHearts Together, Suck on the Jugular, awful tracks) and add the best of Bridges (Flip the Switch, Lowdown, Out of Control, Saint of Me and the 3 Keith tracks: Yo Don't Have to Mean It, Thief in the Night, and How Can I Stop). Anybody Seen My Baby is not necessary since you have it already in Forty Licks...

that would be a solid 94-98 Stones Cd... wink

but Bigger Bang is certainly worth owning...



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Reply #27 posted 07/02/11 11:43am

Brendan

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The Rolling Stones are no doubt helped [ad infinitum] by the fact that a vast majority of critics in their most dominant decades were white males.

Not that some of these folks aren't/weren't terrific at what they do/did, just inadequate at representing all strengths in the building.

But having said that, I still think that this part of the building is nearly earthquake proof. Great, perhaps first and foremost, because they didn't segregate their minds nearly as much as many in their audience.

Their heroes are mostly black, steeped in the genius of the blues and early rock and roll.

This 4-album studio stretch surely must be one of the most essential in history:

[1] Beggar's Banquet [1968]
[2] Let It Bleed [1969]
[3] Sticky Fingers [1971]
[4] Exile on Main St. [1972]

There's more. But I believe that is the watermark.

If you still can't fully decipher, similarly to the formation of one of those 3D puzzles, perhaps a little more time and space is required.

Good luck!
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Reply #28 posted 07/03/11 9:42am

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blackbob said:

the rolling stones...hmmm....they are rated as the 2nd most critically acclaimed act of the last 50 years at acclaimedmusic.net...only the beatles are more highly thought of but..i have to be honest...i have always thought they were overrated....going by their hit singles...i have yet to make it through one of their albums...i listened to most of exile on main street but i couldnt see what the fuss was about.....i have always thought the beatles were head and shoulders above them..but i am open to having my mind changed on this..

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so...what rolling stones album should i sit down and listen to all the way through ?...what is their most brilliant work in your opinion ?...dont get me wrong....i DO like a lot of their singles so there is a chance i could be convinced they deserve such high praise...

Out of 12, 500+ track in my Itunes collection the Stones have managed to place one song. 'Paint it Black.'

I have never liked the Stones. I listened to their singles in the 70's and liked a couple but nothing about them has ever really grabbed me.

If I have listened to one of their albums in its entirety, it didn't leave a great impression.

I don't care enough to actually hate them, I just don't listen.

I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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Reply #29 posted 07/03/11 9:44am

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Empress said:

Not in my opinion. Their catalogue of work is phenomenal! Many songs are downright perfect.

name some for consideration please.

I can't promise I will actually listen but I will consider it which is an advancement.

I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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