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Reply #240 posted 06/24/11 9:03am

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Unholyalliance said:

Emancipation89 said:

Well in MJ's case he publicly said he forgave his dad. No one truly knows how he really felt about his dad inside but it seemed pretty obvious to me that he wanted his fans to know that he forgave his dad. And he went on to say that he wouldn't change his past because he likes the fact that he's able to give back to the world through music and harmony.. I interpret that as him thanking his success to Joe. So its more than just about rasing and feeding...After all his dad really "helped" him become a supserstar...

He talked about Joe's abuse many times...but honestly I never felt like he was trying to reach out to fans and make them think his dad was evil. I think He was trying to open up and help fans understand why he's the way he is. I guess everyone has different opinion...

Well, tbqh, I don't know if Joe ever really addressed it. I know that he's not going to now if he already hasn't, but the fact that he has never addressed it, coupled with what is, currently going on, doesn't look to good on his part you know? I don't know what happened nor do I know anything about Joe and the family. It's really not my business, but I don't think it's totally unfathomable as to why fans don't seem to as forgiving as MJ was or thought he was.

That being said, I think that my statement was to address the attitude that some people have towards abuse. I mean...my friend was the same way. She would tell these stories of what her mom and dad would do to her and I would be, absolutely, horrified. Otoh, she would try to negate what was going on by saying things such as: I don't have it as bad as everyone else, my mom didn't kill me, and etc. I don't and never agreed with that kind of attitude. It just seems like it's ok to take the abuse simply, because your parents birthed you. Giving you the basic necessities of life is the responsibility of a parent. Treating you like shit is not.

I'm gonna go with MJ's own words as far as how he felt about his dad. It's weird to me that the man said outright himself that he forgave his dad and loves him and you guys are trying like hell to null and void that : "Well we don't really know how he felt; oh he was abused, abused kids make excuses for their parents". rolleyes

Maybe it's more that you guys just want him to have hated his dad, and just get off on shitting on him? Look, Gary Indiana was really bad around the time Joseph got his family out of there - that's love. Yeah, he wasn't perfect as a parent, but honestly, NO parent is, and MJ has also stated in interviews, positive memories he has of his dad as well. Again - none of us were there and we don't know all that went on and how good or bad things were/got, and it's none of our business.

It's just incredibly fucking creepy and offensive to me that MJ fans don't even know these people and feel absolutely entitled to shit on them and speak as though they were there living with the family for 20, 30 years and even try to speak on their behalf and say what they must have been thinking or felt.

Have some damn respect - since when is it okay to go around disrespecting other people's parents. I said it once, I'll say it again - if it weren't for MJ's parents, the guy you all love so much, wouldn't even have been born. And if it wasn't for his dad busting his ass to try and see to it that his kids got out of there and had something better, you guys wouldn't even know who the fuck Michael Jackson was.

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Reply #241 posted 06/24/11 9:14am

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Reply #242 posted 06/24/11 10:10am

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I miss you, Michael. Your life is the only reason I believe miracles and magic truly happen. I'd be lost without you.

I love you forever and always...heart

The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #243 posted 06/24/11 10:17am

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armpit said:

Unholyalliance said:

Well, tbqh, I don't know if Joe ever really addressed it. I know that he's not going to now if he already hasn't, but the fact that he has never addressed it, coupled with what is, currently going on, doesn't look to good on his part you know? I don't know what happened nor do I know anything about Joe and the family. It's really not my business, but I don't think it's totally unfathomable as to why fans don't seem to as forgiving as MJ was or thought he was.

That being said, I think that my statement was to address the attitude that some people have towards abuse. I mean...my friend was the same way. She would tell these stories of what her mom and dad would do to her and I would be, absolutely, horrified. Otoh, she would try to negate what was going on by saying things such as: I don't have it as bad as everyone else, my mom didn't kill me, and etc. I don't and never agreed with that kind of attitude. It just seems like it's ok to take the abuse simply, because your parents birthed you. Giving you the basic necessities of life is the responsibility of a parent. Treating you like shit is not.

I'm gonna go with MJ's own words as far as how he felt about his dad. It's weird to me that the man said outright himself that he forgave his dad and loves him and you guys are trying like hell to null and void that : "Well we don't really know how he felt; oh he was abused, abused kids make excuses for their parents". rolleyes

Maybe it's more that you guys just want him to have hated his dad, and just get off on shitting on him? Look, Gary Indiana was really bad around the time Joseph got his family out of there - that's love. Yeah, he wasn't perfect as a parent, but honestly, NO parent is, and MJ has also stated in interviews, positive memories he has of his dad as well. Again - none of us were there and we don't know all that went on and how good or bad things were/got, and it's none of our business.

It's just incredibly fucking creepy and offensive to me that MJ fans don't even know these people and feel absolutely entitled to shit on them and speak as though they were there living with the family for 20, 30 years and even try to speak on their behalf and say what they must have been thinking or felt.

Have some damn respect - since when is it okay to go around disrespecting other people's parents. I said it once, I'll say it again - if it weren't for MJ's parents, the guy you all love so much, wouldn't even have been born. And if it wasn't for his dad busting his ass to try and see to it that his kids got out of there and had something better, you guys wouldn't even know who the fuck Michael Jackson was.

Very true.

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Reply #244 posted 06/24/11 10:24am

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Unholyalliance said:

Well, tbqh, I don't know if Joe ever really addressed it. I know that he's not going to now if he already hasn't, but the fact that he has never addressed it, coupled with what is, currently going on, doesn't look to good on his part you know? I don't know what happened nor do I know anything about Joe and the family. It's really not my business, but I don't think it's totally unfathomable as to why fans don't seem to as forgiving as MJ was or thought he was.

That being said, I think that my statement was to address the attitude that some people have towards abuse. I mean...my friend was the same way. She would tell these stories of what her mom and dad would do to her and I would be, absolutely, horrified. Otoh, she would try to negate what was going on by saying things such as: I don't have it as bad as everyone else, my mom didn't kill me, and etc. I don't and never agreed with that kind of attitude. It just seems like it's ok to take the abuse simply, because your parents birthed you. Giving you the basic necessities of life is the responsibility of a parent. Treating you like shit is not.

bravo. you have taken the words straight out of my mouth. i was emotionally abused as a kid. no, my mother didn't slick me down with vaseline and whip me with an extension cord as mj alleges joe did to him, and the scars may not be visible, but they're there. it is only now that i have really, really come to terms with the abuse, and have become comfortable calling it that. like your friend, i downplayed it, tried to explain it away. but when i would tell my friends about some aspect of my life, they would be horrified like you. i learned that i was the one in denial not them.

like mj, i've moved on. i like my life, i'm grateful that i had the strength to move forward, and i do try to remember the better memories of my mother. but i haven't forgotten. everyone likes to talk about how mj forgave joe and whatnot. what about the fact that when mj lived in vegas, he wouldn't even let him in the house? clearly, he knew where to draw the line with his father.

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Ok then. I'm holding on to the fact that MJ said he forgave his dad because I believe him. Forgiving and forgetting are two different things and no I didn't expect MJ to forget about the abuse. But having guts to say I forgive my abusive dad is something I admire about MJ. I have no opinion on how you view Joe as a father but this is my opinion. I'm not trying to justify his abuse or any other child abuse for that matter, but when MJ said he forgave his dad, I will believe him and stop thinking that I can analyze&figure out how their relationship was. Sure I may be interested in what MJ told Rabbi Shumuley (I'm sure I spelled his name wrong), and think that what he felt inside and what he told in the interview are two different things, but I'd rather go with what MJ said in the interview. I just don't wanna join the "Joe was pure evil" club.

[Edited 6/24/11 10:29am]

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Reply #245 posted 06/24/11 10:26am

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Unholyalliance said:

Well, tbqh, I don't know if Joe ever really addressed it. I know that he's not going to now if he already hasn't, but the fact that he has never addressed it, coupled with what is, currently going on, doesn't look to good on his part you know? I don't know what happened nor do I know anything about Joe and the family. It's really not my business, but I don't think it's totally unfathomable as to why fans don't seem to as forgiving as MJ was or thought he was.

That being said, I think that my statement was to address the attitude that some people have towards abuse. I mean...my friend was the same way. She would tell these stories of what her mom and dad would do to her and I would be, absolutely, horrified. Otoh, she would try to negate what was going on by saying things such as: I don't have it as bad as everyone else, my mom didn't kill me, and etc. I don't and never agreed with that kind of attitude. It just seems like it's ok to take the abuse simply, because your parents birthed you. Giving you the basic necessities of life is the responsibility of a parent. Treating you like shit is not.

Notice how the fans, apart from Kibbles, ignored this post. Fantastic.

Murray will walk away a free man because of Joe calling MJ a junkie in order to sue AEG and get money. I want to see the fans' reactions when this happens. To whom will they point the finger at, then?

I was talking about what MJ's dad did when he was a kid. U can take that drama somewhere else.

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Reply #246 posted 06/24/11 10:29am

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Notice how the fans, apart from Kibbles, ignored this post. Fantastic.

Probably because the anniversary of his death is approaching and not everyone wants to talk about this right now. Also, some people just want to talk about the music. If so, then I understand where they are coming from.

armpit said:

I'm gonna go with MJ's own words as far as how he felt about his dad. It's weird to me that the man said outright himself that he forgave his dad and loves him and you guys are trying like hell to null and void that : "Well we don't really know how he felt; oh he was abused, abused kids make excuses for their parents". rolleyes

I am sorry that you are so insenstive to the plight of abused children and how it affects them, but that's the reality of things. It's hard people to admit those things, especially if they are your parents.

That being said, I think it's one thing to acknowledge the fact that Michael Jackson, publicly forgave his parents, but can you relate that to people respecting them for the simple fact that they gave birth to and raised Michael Jackson? Those seem to be two totally seperate issues.

armpit said:

Have some damn respect - since when is it okay to go around disrespecting other people's parents. I said it once, I'll say it again - if it weren't for MJ's parents, the guy you all love so much, wouldn't even have been born. And if it wasn't for his dad busting his ass to try and see to it that his kids got out of there and had something better, you guys wouldn't even know who the fuck Michael Jackson was.

I don't even think that I was being disrespectful to his parents in any of my posts that were addressing the issue you brought up. At the end of the day, Katherine and Joe Jackson are not YOUR parents. There's really no reason for you to get so worked up over this. However other people feel about them is out of your control as well.

Why can't you just accept that?

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Reply #247 posted 06/24/11 10:37am

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Guys, can we put our differences of opinions aside until the 25th is over? Some of us are trying to cope with our grief and the memories associated with this day.

Let's try to celebrate Michael's life rather than bicker about the details. Seriously.

The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #248 posted 06/24/11 11:02am

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ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Guys, can we put our differences of opinions aside until the 25th is over? Some of us are trying to cope with our grief and the memories associated with this day.

Let's try to celebrate Michael's life rather than bicker about the details. Seriously.

Ok, I ask again:

What is anyone doing for the 25th? Anyone throwing a celebration or are you going to stay inside and just watch his music videos? Listen to his music? Light a candle? Be here or somewhere with fellow MJ fans?

I was thinking of staying home...but if I find something around I'm going to go. =3

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Reply #249 posted 06/24/11 11:11am

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bravo. you have taken the words straight out of my mouth. i was emotionally abused as a kid. no, my mother didn't slick me down with vaseline and whip me with an extension cord as mj alleges joe did to him, and the scars may not be visible, but they're there. it is only now that i have really, really come to terms with the abuse, and have become comfortable calling it that. like your friend, i downplayed it, tried to explain it away. but when i would tell my friends about some aspect of my life, they would be horrified like you. i learned that i was the one in denial not them.

like mj, i've moved on. i like my life, i'm grateful that i had the strength to move forward, and i do try to remember the better memories of my mother. but i haven't forgotten. everyone likes to talk about how mj forgave joe and whatnot. what about the fact that when mj lived in vegas, he wouldn't even let him in the house? clearly, he knew where to draw the line with his father.

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Ok then. I'm holding on to the fact that MJ said he forgave his dad because I believe him. Forgiving and forgetting are two different things and no I didn't expect MJ to forget about the abuse. But having guts to say I forgive my abusive dad is something I admire about MJ. I have no opinion on how you view Joe as a father but this is my opinion. I'm not trying to justify his abuse or any other child abuse for that matter, but when MJ said he forgave his dad, I will believe him and stop thinking that I can analyze&figure out how their relationship was. Sure I may be interested in what MJ told Rabbi Shumuley (I'm sure I spelled his name wrong), and think that what he felt inside and what he told in the interview are two different things, but I'd rather go with what MJ said in the interview. I just don't wanna join the "Joe was pure evil" club.

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i, too, admire mj's decision to forgive his father. it's important to release pain that others inflict upon you, because it impedes your growth and that negativity cripples you. by not forgiving the abuser, it allows him to continue to exert power over you. i don't have a problem with saying that mj forgave his father for the abuse. what i have a problem with is the ongoing denial that his forgiveness means we can't also note mj's other nonverbal acts which speak volumes about his feelings. he didn't allow joe in his house. in one of their last meetings he insisted that someone else accompany him to as he didn't want to be in room with joe alone. he did not leave his father a red cent in his will. the fact that joe busted his kids' asses to work hard doesn't hold enough water with me. as unholyalliance said, parents are supposed to give their children the basic necessities, and teaching your kids to have discipline and reach for their dreams can be called 'basic necessities' that your parents are to provide you with. so since joe made mj work hard to become someone, that's supposed to mitigate the way he treated him otherwise? no, sorry, doesn't cut it with me.
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Reply #250 posted 06/24/11 11:52am

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I hate the month of June and am dreading tomorrow! RIP MJ, your one of the very few celebrities that I actually truly loved! sad Going to watch moonwalker today at work and all the videos to remember one of the greatest!! sad

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Reply #251 posted 06/24/11 12:25pm

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kibbles said:

Emancipation89 said:

Ok then. I'm holding on to the fact that MJ said he forgave his dad because I believe him. Forgiving and forgetting are two different things and no I didn't expect MJ to forget about the abuse. But having guts to say I forgive my abusive dad is something I admire about MJ. I have no opinion on how you view Joe as a father but this is my opinion. I'm not trying to justify his abuse or any other child abuse for that matter, but when MJ said he forgave his dad, I will believe him and stop thinking that I can analyze&figure out how their relationship was. Sure I may be interested in what MJ told Rabbi Shumuley (I'm sure I spelled his name wrong), and think that what he felt inside and what he told in the interview are two different things, but I'd rather go with what MJ said in the interview. I just don't wanna join the "Joe was pure evil" club.

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i, too, admire mj's decision to forgive his father. it's important to release pain that others inflict upon you, because it impedes your growth and that negativity cripples you. by not forgiving the abuser, it allows him to continue to exert power over you. i don't have a problem with saying that mj forgave his father for the abuse. what i have a problem with is the ongoing denial that his forgiveness means we can't also note mj's other nonverbal acts which speak volumes about his feelings. he didn't allow joe in his house. in one of their last meetings he insisted that someone else accompany him to as he didn't want to be in room with joe alone. he did not leave his father a red cent in his will. the fact that joe busted his kids' asses to work hard doesn't hold enough water with me. as unholyalliance said, parents are supposed to give their children the basic necessities, and teaching your kids to have discipline and reach for their dreams can be called 'basic necessities' that your parents are to provide you with. so since joe made mj work hard to become someone, that's supposed to mitigate the way he treated him otherwise? no, sorry, doesn't cut it with me.

What people say means nothing, what they do means everything and I'd have no problems with Mike's treatment of his father, that was his choice. I'll say as for me, as a man from abusive brutal parents, i look back and see the good and the bad and don't really think much of it anymore. I'll tell you why, I've dealt with a million other authority figures in this society and they're all corrupt and "bad" maybe that's cynical but that's my life. I can't put my parents on a lower plane than everyone else just because they got first crack. All the teachers, mentors, bosses and even friends and women are screwed up. Society isn't very healthy here, of course we don't know that because we live in it, like a fish doesn't know it's living in water. I recently been spending time with my stepdad, he can't break my arm anymore, nothing for me to worry about and I am rational enough to deal with him. People are people pretty much and none of us are any good.

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Reply #252 posted 06/24/11 12:54pm

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Michael Jackson: King of Pop Was Also King of Compassion
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2011 (EST)

By Dee Pfeiffer


Michael Jackson, who left us for his heavenly abode two years back, was publicly the King of Pop, but privately, he was the King of Compassion.

June 24, 2011, (Sawf News) - The accomplishments of Michael Jackson in the field of music, dance and entertainment have been documented worldwide. He was an innovator who changed the face of modern dance, captivated and influenced generations of music lovers and produced ground-breaking videos that were ahead of their time. What is lesser known, however, is how much he gave of himself, his time and his finances in order to help the suffering and those in need.

Quietly and without the need or desire for recognition, Jackson visited orphanages and schools across the globe, paid the cost of funerals for those who could ill afford the expense, and supported so many charities and good causes that he was listed in the Guinness Book of World Records for the most charities donated to by a pop star.

Indeed, the entire proceeds of his 1992/1993 Dangerous Tour went to charity, as well as his cut from the 1984 Victory Tour. Whilst the tabloid media busied themselves in tearing him down, Jackson was using his time to give to the needy, sick or deprived, visiting as many orphanages and hospitals as he did concerts.

From a very early age, Jackson was moved to tears by the suffering of others, and especially the plight of children. As a child watching images of starving African children, he told his mother he was going to 'do something about that one day'. And, he kept to his word.

On the second anniversary of his death, we look at just a few instances which give us a glimpse into the singer's heart for the suffering:

In 1985, Jackson co-wrote the song 'We Are The World' together with Lionel Richie in order to combat poverty in the Third World. The record sold over ten million copies worldwide and raised a staggering $63 million plus for humanitarian aid in Africa and the US.

On February 6th, 1988, the inspirational and spiritually uplifting single, 'Man in The Mirror' entered the pop charts. Jackson donated all of his royalties from the single to Camp Ronald McDonald for Good Times, a camp for children who have cancer.

In December 1988, Jackson paid a visit to 12 year old David Rothenburg, who was hospitalised after being doused with kerosene and seriously burned by his father five years previously. Despite an estimated fifty operations, Rothenburg remained disfigured. The star paid for all necessary further operations and the pair remained lifelong friends.

On 7 February, 1989, Jackson visited the Cleveland Elementary School in Stockton, California. Three weeks earlier, a gunman had open fired 100 bullets in the school playground, killing five children and wounding 39 others before turning the gun on himself. Jackson spent time comforting the children and helping them to think positively again.

On May 6th 1992, Jackson paid the funeral costs for young Ramon Sanchez. Sanchez was killed by a stray bullet during the Rodney King violent riots in California and the boy's parents could not afford to bury him.

On November 25th, 1992, Jackson granted the wish of young David Sonnet, who he met through the Make A Wish Foundation, an organisation that grants wishes to terminally ill children. Sonnet had suffered a brain aneurysm at the age of 8, leaving him unable to talk or walk. Jackson invited the boy and his mother to his Neverland home and later, his mother credited the singer's music for helping her son to recover from a coma.

In December 1993, Jackson and his newly formed 'Heal the World Foundation'supported the UK's 'Operation Christmas Child' in airlifting over 100,000 gifts, toys, sweets, pictures and school items to needy children in Sarajevo.

In February 1995, the star made a private request to attend the funeral of Craig Fleming, a two year old boy whose mother threw him over the side of a Los Angeles bridge along with his four year old brother before jumping to her death. The mother and four year old survived. Jackson contributed towards the surviving youngster's medical expenses and founded a special trust fund for his ongoing care.

On November 1, 1996, Jackson donated most of the proceeds from his HIStory concert in Bombay, India, to the poor. When travelling from the airport, he stopped the car several times to dance with, pick up and hug poor urchins from the streets. On the day of his show in India, he invited around 50 children from local orphanages to his hotel room where they were treated to games, cakes and burgers. Later this same month, the star visited an orphanage and a school for blind children in Thailand. At the orphanage, he distributed toys and gifts to the children before leaving a donation of $100,000. An orphanage spokeswoman at the time said, "They don't know him as a pop star. To them he is just a very nice man who came here to offer hope."

New stories of Jackson's compassion for those less fortunate are surfacing regularly, and his humanitarian legacy continues through the stipulation in his will that the Jackson Family Trust donate 20% of its earnings to a number of undisclosed charities.

Only now that he is gone are we truly realizing what a legacy Jackson left. Yes, his performances left people mesmerized, and his music captivated music lovers worldwide. But perhaps his most lasting legacy will be his humanitarian work which has left an indelible mark on the countless hearts of those whose lives he touched.

http://www.sawfnews.com/E...67141.aspx

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Reply #253 posted 06/24/11 2:09pm

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dag said:

daPrettyman said:

http://www.amazon.com/Hello-World-Motown-Solo-Collection/dp/B002LIBF2Q/ref=tmm_msc_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1308855641&sr=8-1

Ordered. But I gotta wait almost a month before it arrives. confused

This collection is good they had all his motown albums in one place instead of buying it one by one. I'm glad I purchased it last year I need to get all of the Jackson 5 albums I notice I don't listen to them as much as the jacksons. I have the songs but I only own their first two albums.

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Reply #254 posted 06/24/11 2:19pm

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #255 posted 06/24/11 2:23pm

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Unholyalliance said:

So...anybody going to anything on June 25th? Any parties or events? I'm going to the Spike Lee B-day think in Brooklyn, but that's in August. ^^

I would like to watch the shows, but it's the same shit everytime. Wish I could see something different for once.

Shows as in T.V Specials? I looked on my t.v guide and BET is showing one special in the morning and the rest is regular programming. On a few music channels I see them showing something maybe once or twice there’s no marathons this year.

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Reply #256 posted 06/24/11 2:32pm

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This classic J-5 cut is just ahead of its time. It's so astonishing!

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Reply #257 posted 06/24/11 3:05pm

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babybugz said:

dag said:

Ordered. But I gotta wait almost a month before it arrives. confused

This collection is good they had all his motown albums in one place instead of buying it one by one. I'm glad I purchased it last year I need to get all of the Jackson 5 albums I notice I don't listen to them as much as the jacksons. I have the songs but I only own their first two albums.

Last year, Motown/Universal reissued all of the Jackson 5 albums from 1971-1975 (Goin' Back To Indiana to Moving Violation) complete with original liners, remastered sound and new photos. I brought them, even though I had the excellent 2-in-1 CD remasters. Highly recommended buys.

Also, check out last year's Live At the Forum from last year as well.

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Reply #258 posted 06/24/11 3:40pm

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All Michael Jackson weekend on local radio station....the first 10 songs ,I was.. headbang then..excited to bananadance and then neutral to pout it changed to cry now I'm sitting on the

couch needing a hug .

That radio station ,dogg -gone -it, played with my emotions playing his good feeling songs causing me to dance and singing then they played all his slow depressing songs ....I can't take it..neutral

Njoy ur weekend..

All weekend like this...confused MJ this and that...like they say:

"WE GOTTA LIVE IN THE MOMENT! WE GOTTA LOVE

PEOPLE WHILE THEY ARE ALIVE---NOT AT THEIR FUNERALS."

--GEORGE FOREMAN

Desiigner "Panda" LES TWINS x YAK FILMS | Laurent ft Skitzo & Boom Squad Inglewood heart (part 1)
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Reply #259 posted 06/24/11 4:24pm

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silverchild said:

babybugz said:

This collection is good they had all his motown albums in one place instead of buying it one by one. I'm glad I purchased it last year I need to get all of the Jackson 5 albums I notice I don't listen to them as much as the jacksons. I have the songs but I only own their first two albums.

Last year, Motown/Universal reissued all of the Jackson 5 albums from 1971-1975 (Goin' Back To Indiana to Moving Violation) complete with original liners, remastered sound and new photos. I brought them, even though I had the excellent 2-in-1 CD remasters. Highly recommended buys.

Also, check out last year's Live At the Forum from last year as well.

Yes I know about the reissues I just couldn’t find it so I will probably have to buy them on Amazon.

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Reply #260 posted 06/24/11 4:49pm

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All Michael Jackson weekend on local radio station....the first 10 songs ,I was.. headbang then..excited to bananadance and then neutral to pout it changed to cry now I'm sitting on the

couch needing a hug .

That radio station ,dogg -gone -it, played with my emotions playing his good feeling songs causing me to dance and singing then they played all his slow depressing songs ....I can't take it..neutral

Njoy ur weekend..

All weekend like this...confused MJ this and that...like they say:

"WE GOTTA LIVE IN THE MOMENT! WE GOTTA LOVE

PEOPLE WHILE THEY ARE ALIVE---NOT AT THEIR FUNERALS."

--GEORGE FOREMAN

clapping music comfort

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. rose
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Reply #261 posted 06/24/11 5:08pm

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004X1M3CA/ref=ox_ya_os_product

Description Michael Jackson & Jackson 5 2011 numbered limited edition Mini LP 12-SHM-CD Box Set. This edition will come with label card and a bonus ACAPELLA CD "PURE MICHAEL" first time on CD worldwide. This is destined to be sold out prior to the release date so please make sure you place the pre-orders to secure your copies.
The set includes:
The Jackson 5 "Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5 / ABC +1 (UICY-94292)," "Third Album / Maybe Tomorrow (UICY-94293)," "Going Back To Indiana / Looking Through The Windows (UICY-94294)," "Skywriter / Get It Together +3 (UICY-94295)," "Dancing Machine / Moving Violation +2 (UICY-94296)," "Joyful Jukebox Music / Boogie (UICY-94297)," "Christmas Album (UICY-94298)," and "In Japan (UICY-94299)."
Michael Jackson "Hello World: The Complete Motown Solo Collection (3CD set) (UICY-94300)" and "Pure Michael: Motown A Cappella (bonus CD)."



* Japanese-only limited edition Mini LP SHM-CD.
* Housed in mini-lp cardboard sleeve, replica of original vinyl LP jacket.
* Digitally remastered with superior sound quality.
* Complete obi-strip & Japanese introductory/lyrics sheets included.
* SHM-CD (Super High Material CD), fully compatible with standard CD players, enables greater transparency, more open sound, lower distortion and better resolution that leads to more sound details.
* SHM-CD achieves higher quality audio through the use of a polycarbonate plastic with improved transparency derived from LCD display manufacturing technologies. Release Date 2011/6/8
Notes Limited Edition

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #262 posted 06/24/11 5:13pm

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Listening to CAN YOU FEEL IT right now. One of the best Jackson jams ever. music I love Mike's voice on this song.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. rose
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Reply #263 posted 06/24/11 5:16pm

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Right now it is Sat 25 June here in Australia so - a moment's silence...

Now onto the music.

"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #264 posted 06/24/11 5:19pm

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Michael Jackson: Remembering the star at 20


To the left (in the foreground) is Michael Jackson, and in the background is Marlon Jackson. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)
Saturday afternoon, two years ago, I walked out of a movie theater on sunny afternoon in Chicago and got a text message from a friend: “Michael Jackson died.” I thought it was the start to a joke. Michael Jackson had been a star before I was born and — despite his personal struggles, his questionable behavior to children, his personal life spirals — managed to stay a star all my life.

The world was emptier without his talent, but it was the end to a difficult and challenging life. In memory of his death, here’s a remembrance of Michael Jackson full of life — before the surgeries, before the masks, before the court cases and tabloid troubles. Written by the Post’s Jacqueline Trescott on June 11, 1979, here’s Michael Jackson, a 20-year-old man on the verge of breaking out from his family’s shadow:

Michael Jackson, now 20, an elongated version of the cute, spindly youngster who finger popped into teen hearts 10 years ago, knows what he wants for the next 10.

“To do everything I feel I should do,” says Jackson, his trademark airy pitch unchanged. His dark eyes are direct, making no excuses for that goal. “Really, more music, films, everything. I want to go all the way.” His smile grows into grin, testing the boundaries of a crescent fact that, up close, is small and sand papery. His answers are the quick, flippant retorts of any 20-year-old, their tone mixed with the blase worldliness of someone who has spent half his life in the limelight.

Dressed in brown slacks and print shirt with a gray cavalry hat perched on a wayward afro, Jackson leans back onto the bedpost. His brother, Marlon, 22, one of the original five who started out as the Jackson Five in 1969 and renamed themselves the Jacksons three year ago, joins the conversation. Three hours before the group will bring 20,000-plus fans to their feet, on a night when a reported 5,000 were turned away, Michael and Marlon are totally relaxed. In fact, they are cutting up like the Smothers Brothers.

“What! There aren't any girls downstairs,” mocks Marlon, camouflaged behind sunglasses and a worn cream-colored jogging suit. From the corner, one of the managers announces that the lobby of the Sheraton Lanham Motor Inn was packed earlier in the day.

“Well I guess they'd expect us to be at the Regency, or the ‘Gate,” says Michael (who is given to abbreviations: ‘Gate for Watergate Hotel, ‘tics for politics, ‘Town for Motown Records, their first label).

Ten years ago, the Jacksons were all terribly green, painfully shy, leaving all the declarations to their father, Joseph Jackson. What they offered to the music scene were five blemishfree faces, heart-throbbing in their close-cut hair, chino pants and matching sports jackets. Out of Gary, Ind., they marketed bubble-gum soul, which brought them adulation and riches. But, even then, when they spoke, they were coy: their sound, explained one back then, “is a secret; too many people might find out and start doing it.”

Now, with their youth no longer a salable part of the act (Randy, the youngest, is 16), the Jacksons have to compete with established male acts like the O'Jays and Commodores. “We have to strive to set trends, instead of following them,” says Michael. They are succeeding. Their latest album, “Destiny” is certified platinum and has birthed two top 10 singles.

Yet 10 years has produced some changes. Chinos have been replaced by coordinated gold lame stitched into a medieval-futuristic combination. The screams have cultivated layers, from those whose years are marked by Jacksons' pin-ups and from a younger generation that can't be called bubble-gum, though that's its age and beat. In personnel, there have been alterations - one brother, Randy, substituting for another, Jermaine, who remained with Motown when the rest switched to CBS Epic Records.

But what has remained constant is the dominance of Michael Jackson. His career has gone further, expanding to movies with the role of the Scarecrow in “The Wiz,” and joining the gossip mystique, escorting Tatum O'Neal. On stage Michael's dancing is an impeccable sample of disco and acrobatics, stylishly flamboyant and patterned. The packaging has killed the spontaneity but, nevertheless, three women were carried over the rails in dead faints during Michael's solos Saturday night.

“In Charlotte, it was a little unreal because they carried the girls out in stretchers across the stage,” says Michael. That was Friday night, and a day later, he sounded slightly stunned. Marlon explains that they never get used to the screams, and Michael elaborates, “it honestly feels fresh each time.”

In the hotel room the two brothers are explaining what tours are like, insisting the Jackson public camaraderie carries over to travel and record sessions. In the fourth week of the two-month tour that ended over the weekend, the Jacksons switched from airplanes to a caravan of station wagons and mobile homes. “I prefer the bus. Flying is fine in good weather,” says Michael, who watches movies during the long drives and then rushes out to catch the zoo in each major city. “Hey he feels at home, looking at his relatives,” says Marlon.

“Well, that means you, right? Sure I like you,” says Michael.

Looking back, the Jacksons agree that the response they triggered in fans was the most fulfilling aspect of the last decade. “The fact that we have sold 60 million records and brought joy to so many people. I like that for the happiness, not for the money,” says Michael. “And playing for the Queen of England, twice; what an honor. I had a fantasy of kings and queens and there she was in her magic box, with her crown and jewels.” Marlon interrupts. “It's everyone we have touched, and selling out certain places, like the Astrodome and breaking the Beatles record in Liverpool.”

Success has brought certain luxuries. Marlon is buying a house in the San Fernando Valley, equipped with a tennis court, so he can live his fantasy of being a tennis pro. Waiting for Michael at the family's sprawling compound in Encino, Calif., are several movie offers.

“First there's the movie of ‘Chorus Line,’ but I haven't seen the script yet. Then someone is doing a script on the Bill Robinson story, then a movie about summer stock, about what people do to make it, the pain of success,” says Michael. Is he attracted to stories of struggle because his career has been free of scars? Michael immediately responds yes. Marion again interrupts. “In the early days, before we went national, we did the seven shows a night, traveling in a Volkswagen. That wasn't fun.” Corrects Michael, “It hasn't been bad, but we didn't come out of the blue.”

But what about the internal jealousies, the rifts that must come? “We like one another and think alike, so there are few problems. And we tell this one,” Marlon says, looking at Michael, whose attention has been caught by the television, “We tell him the most important thing is the last name.” Michael scowls. And Marlon amends, “I was only kidding.”

Source: http://www.washingtonpost..._blog.html

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Reply #265 posted 06/24/11 5:22pm

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I'm thinking maybe I should warn all my FB friends that I will be STANNING OUT tomorrow. I already changed my profile picture lol

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Reply #266 posted 06/24/11 5:33pm

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Stan away Bboy....

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I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. rose
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Reply #267 posted 06/24/11 5:42pm

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"All In Your Name" with Barry Gibb is now available on Barry's site

http://www.barrygibb.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=76

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #268 posted 06/24/11 6:41pm

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Unholyalliance said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Guys, can we put our differences of opinions aside until the 25th is over? Some of us are trying to cope with our grief and the memories associated with this day.

Let's try to celebrate Michael's life rather than bicker about the details. Seriously.

Ok, I ask again:

What is anyone doing for the 25th? Anyone throwing a celebration or are you going to stay inside and just watch his music videos? Listen to his music? Light a candle? Be here or somewhere with fellow MJ fans?

I was thinking of staying home...but if I find something around I'm going to go. =3

My family got some friends coming over. They're oblivious to the whole anniversary thing, but these friends have 3 kids. One of them is Blanket's age, and we're prolly gonna watch TII, Moonwalker, or play MJ: The Experience. I'll be in the kitchen all day cooking (cuz it's a dinner thing and I'm mostly responsible for that sorta thing in my household), so I think that's the best thing for me. To take my mind off it and spend it with kids.

I'm gonna listen to his music all day, and wear one my MJ shirt. There are no tributes where I live.

I'll try to make due with what I have. And spend time with some fellow fans on facebook.

The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #269 posted 06/24/11 7:19pm

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Found this on youtube. It made me smile. Thought I would share it here.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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