TD3 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Chances are

that is sooooooo wrong.

but so right.

phunkdaddy said:

TD3 said:

that is sooooooo wrong.

but so right.

Is Williams married to anyone now?

neoretro7 said:

They should do an Unsung on the Fifth Dimension a black group in the 60's who were doing hippy songs like Aquaris and Go Where You Wanna Go.

LaMonte McLemore from that group was the Jet magazine photographer for their swimsuit models for years.

MickyDolenz said:

neoretro7 said:

They should do an Unsung on the Fifth Dimension a black group in the 60's who were doing hippy songs like Aquaris and Go Where You Wanna Go.

LaMonte McLemore from that group was the Jet magazine photographer for their swimsuit models for years.

Didn't Florence LaRue and Marilyn McCoo get in the group due to their JET Beauty of the Week connections?

SEANMAN said:

neoretro7 said:

She never really had a "intimate relationship" with Johnny Mathis I think those two were great friends who genuinely loved each other.

Her Unsung was good because she is a great who never had a tragic story

They should do an Unsung on the Fifth Dimension a black group in the 60's who were doing hippy songs like Aquaris and Go Where You Wanna Go.

Isn't Johnny Mathis gay?

Of course. They just have a deep friendship.

phunkdaddy said:

SEANMAN said:

Isn't Johnny Mathis gay?

Chances are

SEANMAN said:

phunkdaddy said:

Chances are

!!!!

TD3 said:

phunkdaddy said:

but so right.

Is Williams married to anyone now?

I don't know but that was pretty stank of her preacher husband to

marry her and not accept her kids.

phunkdaddy said:

TD3 said:

Is Williams married to anyone now?

I don't know but that was pretty stank of her preacher husband to

marry her and not accept her kids.

Her kids or their kids, either way. She married this fool anyways?

TD3 said:

phunkdaddy said:

I don't know but that was pretty stank of her preacher husband to

marry her and not accept her kids.

Her kids or their kids, either way. She married this fool anyways?

Her kids. I was wondering why the quick divorce. I think she married the idiot because he was Christian. She definitely blamed that on herself. Marrying someone because of status (he was a minister).

Oh and Niecy is single again. She hasn't married since divorcing Brad.

I enjoyed this episode. Nice to know Deniece has a great sense of humor. But I wish TV-One would do episode on artists who are truly unsung, at the top of my list: Frankie Beverly. You want to talk about being unsung & overlooked by the music press and awards organizations. I was pleasantly surprised to see an old clip of him on American Bandstand in the late 70s.

KemiVA said:

I enjoyed this episode. Nice to know Deniece has a great sense of humor. But I wish TV-One would do episode on artists who are truly unsung, at the top of my list: Frankie Beverly. You want to talk about being unsung & overlooked by the music press and awards organizations. I was pleasantly surprised to see an old clip of him on American Bandstand in the late 70s.

Honestly this is what I thought unsung was all about. During the opening credits that is what the commentator hints at... that this person is being spotlighted because they somehow missed the marked.

To me, Deniece Williams did not miss the mark and neither did last years subject, The Ojays. What standards are they going by when they decided this person(s) was "unsung"

Since they are clearly going in a different direction than they orginally intended, they should consider changing the name of the show. Any suggestions out there???

kitbradley said:

Since they are clearly going in a different direction than they orginally intended, they should consider changing the name of the show. Any suggestions out there???

Legends was already taken...

prodigalfan said:

KemiVA said:

I enjoyed this episode. Nice to know Deniece has a great sense of humor. But I wish TV-One would do episode on artists who are truly unsung, at the top of my list: Frankie Beverly. You want to talk about being unsung & overlooked by the music press and awards organizations. I was pleasantly surprised to see an old clip of him on American Bandstand in the late 70s.

Honestly this is what I thought unsung was all about. During the opening credits that is what the commentator hints at... that this person is being spotlighted because they somehow missed the marked.

To me, Deniece Williams did not miss the mark and neither did last years subject, The Ojays. What standards are they going by when they decided this person(s) was "unsung"

I agree with you both, but I have a feeling that a lot of times it's the artist that prefers to go "unsung."

I used to ask a radio friend of mine that was really close to Johnnie Taylor why Johnnie was never recognized in the mainstream. A lot of Johnnie's music and styling can be heard throuhout a lot of singers (especially modern day blues singers). His response to me was that Johnnie was an "ignant mother fucker." He then went on to explain how Johnnie was so strung out on drugs and loved too many women and just never changed his ways later in life.

I said all of that to say that I think Frankie and Maze may suffer fromt he same "ignant mother fucker" syndrome. The ony awards that I know that Frankie has received is a Trumpet award. I never have understood why they have not been recognized on the Soul Train Awards or even BET. Maybe Cathy Hughes will do it (if Frankie will allow it).

^ I heard Frankie was a prick too. Apparently he was pissed at Charlie Wilson for some reason that Charlie talked about not too long ago.

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Timmy84 said:

MickyDolenz said:

LaMonte McLemore from that group was the Jet magazine photographer for their swimsuit models for years.

Didn't Florence LaRue and Marilyn McCoo get in the group due to their JET Beauty of the Week connections?

I don't know. I know little about the group's origins. I read once that some of the members of the 5th Dimension and Friends Of Distinction were part of another group, but split into separate acts.

daPrettyman said:

I used to ask a radio friend of mine that was really close to Johnnie Taylor why Johnnie was never recognized in the mainstream. A lot of Johnnie's music and styling can be heard throuhout a lot of singers (especially modern day blues singers). His response to me was that Johnnie was an "ignant mother fucker." He then went on to explain how Johnnie was so strung out on drugs and loved too many women and just never changed his ways later in life.

My mom told me she used to go to Johnnie's concerts in the 1970's, and that he was sometimes drunk onstage.

MickyDolenz said:

daPrettyman said:

I used to ask a radio friend of mine that was really close to Johnnie Taylor why Johnnie was never recognized in the mainstream. A lot of Johnnie's music and styling can be heard throuhout a lot of singers (especially modern day blues singers). His response to me was that Johnnie was an "ignant mother fucker." He then went on to explain how Johnnie was so strung out on drugs and loved too many women and just never changed his ways later in life.

My mom told me she used to go to Johnnie's concerts in the 1970's, and that he was sometimes drunk onstage.

I met him and he was drunk and high. That was one of the reasons he died. He got too high on coke and had a heart attack at his girfriend's house. The press release says he died at Charleton Methodist Center in Dallas, but that's not really true. He was pronounced dead there.

daPrettyman said:

MickyDolenz said:

My mom told me she used to go to Johnnie's concerts in the 1970's, and that he was sometimes drunk onstage.

I met him and he was drunk and high. That was one of the reasons he died. He got too high on coke and had a heart attack at his girfriend's house. The press release says he died at Charleton Methodist Center in Dallas, but that's not really true. He was pronounced dead there.

Wow, no wonder he died the way he did. Gotta tell my mama about that.

Timmy84 said:

^ I heard Frankie was a prick too. Apparently he was pissed at Charlie Wilson for some reason that Charlie talked about not too long ago.

[Edited 6/13/11 14:33pm]

I've never met Frankie, but I have met a few other memebers of the group. They seemed nice, but it wouldn't surprise me.

daPrettyman said:

Timmy84 said:

^ I heard Frankie was a prick too. Apparently he was pissed at Charlie Wilson for some reason that Charlie talked about not too long ago.

[Edited 6/13/11 14:33pm]

I've never met Frankie, but I have met a few other memebers of the group. They seemed nice, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Me either. Frankie & Charlie did have beef but I wondered about what.

gossip.org anyone?

Timmy84 said:

daPrettyman said:

I've never met Frankie, but I have met a few other memebers of the group. They seemed nice, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Me either. Frankie & Charlie did have beef but I wondered about what.

Had no idea Frankie Beverly & Charlie Wilson even had a beef. Did Maze and the Gap Band ever tour together?

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KemiVA said:

Timmy84 said:

Me either. Frankie & Charlie did have beef but I wondered about what.

Had no idea Frankie Beverly & Charlie Wilson even had a beef. Did Maze and the Gap Band ever tour together?

[Edited 6/13/11 17:07pm]

I could've sworn someone posted it here. They performed at a festival somewhere.

I was JUST looking for a thread about this, since I am watching this show right now. I love Deniece Williams' voice, she really is very talented, and I love her songs.

Timmy84 said:

"Black Butterfly" was credited as being on the "I'm So Proud" album rather than "Let's Hear It For The Boy".

"Black Butterfly" brings tears to my eyes whenever I hear it. that song!!

psychodelicide said:

Timmy84 said:

"Black Butterfly" was credited as being on the "I'm So Proud" album rather than "Let's Hear It For The Boy".

"Black Butterfly" brings tears to my eyes whenever I hear it. that song!!

It's an uplifting song too. I get a smile on my face when she gets to the ending.

There is something so very moving about this song.