musicjunky318 said:

I'm surprised nobody went here yet:

Please don't, suga. You're opening up a can of unnecessary worms. At this rate, Gaga could release a song about bumblebees and someone would say "Madonna did it fiiirrrsssttt!!!!"

SEANMAN said:

musicjunky318 said:

I'm surprised nobody went here yet:

Please don't, suga. You're opening up a can of unnecessary worms. At this rate, Gaga could release a song about bumblebees and someone would say "Madonna did it fiiirrrsssttt!!!!"

LOL

OK I just heard this song...and I'm totally feeling the Chant....

I can't WAIT until Leyomi Mizrahi dips the FUCK out of this song.

Where is the fucking club remix on the chant when you need it?!!!!

The chorus rips-off her own "Bad Romance". At this rate, she'll completely be out of fresh ideas for the next album.

I used to love GAGA, but this sounds like she's copying herself, like she's mimicking herself. Not advancing to something greater. And Born This Way sounds like "Express Yourself" by Madonna...jus sayin'. lol

Sheeple. Get out the hydrogen peroxide and clean out your ears.

Identity said:

The chorus rips-off her own "Bad Romance". At this rate, she'll completely be out of fresh ideas for the next album.

I can admit that Judas DOES sound like BR AND BTW

The opening chant sounds like BR and the bridge is reminiscent of BTW

CynthiaMarie84 said:

I used to love GAGA, but this sounds like she's copying herself, like she's mimicking herself. Not advancing to something greater. And Born This Way sounds like "Express Yourself" by Madonna...jus sayin'. lol

No it doesn't for the zillionth time, and the next person to say anything about Madonna when it comes to Lady Gaga will get a cyber boot up the ass

CynthiaMarie84 said:

I used to love GAGA, but this sounds like she's copying herself, like she's mimicking herself. Not advancing to something greater. And Born This Way sounds like "Express Yourself" by Madonna...jus sayin'. lol

No it doesn't for the zillionth time, and the next person to say anything about Madonna when it comes to Lady Gaga will get a cyber boot up the ass

^^Sorry for the double post, but it bears repeating...

On "Judas" , thankfully, she chose not to borrow from Madonna, who after all has enjoyed a near 30-year career. Gaga and RedOne will be afterthoughts in 30 years.

SEANMAN said:

^^Sorry for the double post, but it bears repeating...

In the words of Timmy, I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE THIS RIGHT HERE...................

http://www.aishamusic.com...e_from.htm

Spinlight said:

SEANMAN said:

^^Sorry for the double post, but it bears repeating...

In the words of Timmy, I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE THIS RIGHT HERE...................

http://www.aishamusic.com...e_from.htm

I can see someone else didn't get the message...

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SEANMAN said:

Spinlight said:

In the words of Timmy, I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE THIS RIGHT HERE...................

http://www.aishamusic.com...e_from.htm

I can see someone else didn't get the message...

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Now lets all hold hands and talk about how Mother Madge was the one who tapped on the rock and brought forth water.

SEANMAN said:

CynthiaMarie84 said:

I used to love GAGA, but this sounds like she's copying herself, like she's mimicking herself. Not advancing to something greater. And Born This Way sounds like "Express Yourself" by Madonna...jus sayin'. lol

No it doesn't for the zillionth time, and the next person to say anything about Madonna when it comes to Lady Gaga will get a cyber boot up the ass

Was this, actual, proven fact or just some arbitrary conclusion you came to?

Unholyalliance said:

SEANMAN said:

No it doesn't for the zillionth time, and the next person to say anything about Madonna when it comes to Lady Gaga will get a cyber boot up the ass

Was this, actual, proven fact or just some arbitrary conclusion you came to?

The amount of times or the song itself?

I fully expect Lady Gaga's 'SEX' book to come next. Then she'll pretend to clean herself up so that she can do her own EVITA. Then comes a baby. Then comes an album with a William Orbit knock-off.

She'll do all of this in the next year and a half though, because we all know that she doesn't have years left in her 15 minutes.

I read this book already.

Spinlight said:

SEANMAN said:

^^Sorry for the double post, but it bears repeating...

In the words of Timmy, I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE THIS RIGHT HERE...................

http://www.aishamusic.com...e_from.htm

I'm a much bigger fan of Lady Gaga than I am of Madonna but I would argue that the vast majority of those "thefts" are legitimate homages. However, it does underscore that Madonna is not the most original artist and it's kind of laughable when people claim that Lady Gaga "stole" from Madonna when so much of Madonna's career was built on borrowing things from others.

rialb said:

it's kind of laughable when people claim that Lady Gaga "stole" from Madonna when so much of Madonna's career was built on borrowing things from others.

So that makes it ok?

Someone would be out of their minds to think that Madonna was original in anyway possible, but does that justify what Lady Gaga does?

Unholyalliance said:

rialb said:

it's kind of laughable when people claim that Lady Gaga "stole" from Madonna when so much of Madonna's career was built on borrowing things from others.

So that makes it ok?

Someone would be out of their minds to think that Madonna was original in anyway possible, but does that justify what Lady Gaga does?

It's not about justification. It's about the fact that these things are not exclusive to anyone. They are public domain.

Art has copied art since the 2nd-ever piece of art was created and I dare say you can't tell me who that was.

Can you even tell me who wrote the chord progression? Let's take this whole idea a step further and examine Gaga's claim that the chord progression has existed since the inception of disco (at least). If Gaga didn't write it and Madge didn't write it, who did?

I know you have the answer, right?

rialb said:

Spinlight said:

In the words of Timmy, I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE THIS RIGHT HERE...................

http://www.aishamusic.com...e_from.htm

I'm a much bigger fan of Lady Gaga than I am of Madonna but I would argue that the vast majority of those "thefts" are legitimate homages. However, it does underscore that Madonna is not the most original artist and it's kind of laughable when people claim that Lady Gaga "stole" from Madonna when so much of Madonna's career was built on borrowing things from others.

What makes them legitimate homages and what Gaga does illegitimate?

Unholyalliance said:

rialb said:

it's kind of laughable when people claim that Lady Gaga "stole" from Madonna when so much of Madonna's career was built on borrowing things from others.

So that makes it ok?

Someone would be out of their minds to think that Madonna was original in anyway possible, but does that justify what Lady Gaga does?

What exactly does she do? She's a representation of all of the artists who have inspired her in one way or another through the years. Just as any given name in the world of pop music is. Prince is inspired by Jimi Hendrix and James Brown. MJ by James Brown and Motown. The list goes on and on. I can see a myriad of artists in Gaga, but she fuses elements of them into her own unique style. She's not exactly like any one person. That's what makes her unique.

She's practically Dale Bozzio of Missing Persons's twin

The point is, a lot in pop music is borrowed and inspired by... What seperates Gaga from the other pop tartlets is that she writes, plays an instrument and can sing.

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Unholyalliance said:

rialb said:

it's kind of laughable when people claim that Lady Gaga "stole" from Madonna when so much of Madonna's career was built on borrowing things from others.

So that makes it ok?

Someone would be out of their minds to think that Madonna was original in anyway possible, but does that justify what Lady Gaga does?

What exactly has Lady Gaga done that you object to? What is not ok about what she is doing?

Spinlight said:

rialb said:

I'm a much bigger fan of Lady Gaga than I am of Madonna but I would argue that the vast majority of those "thefts" are legitimate homages. However, it does underscore that Madonna is not the most original artist and it's kind of laughable when people claim that Lady Gaga "stole" from Madonna when so much of Madonna's career was built on borrowing things from others.

What makes them legitimate homages and what Gaga does illegitimate?

I'm on team Gaga, I don't think anything she has done or is doing is illegitimate.

The media done brainwashed all y'all.

No one's "original".

Timmy84 said:

The media done brainwashed all y'all.

No one's "original".

"Y'all"?

Who is y'all, cuz nobody on Team Gagaloo has claimed Gaga invented it. In fact, we're the only ones saying that neither she nor Madge invented shit.

^ I know a few "monsters" who claim she is though.

Timmy84 said:

^ I know a few "monsters" who claim she is though.

A few? There are tons of little gremlins out there who are like "Madge and Co. who? Gaga did all of this herself; she is the be-all-end-all!", or they actually choose to acknowledge her as the "new Madonna" and that the "old Madonna" is now obsolete. No one is claiming that anyone in the music industry is purely original, but some people need to realize that without Madge, Prince and all of the other crazy ass musicians who had the guts to do what they did at that time, there would be no Gaga. Hell, some of the musicians need to realize this!

Oh, and "Born This Way" sounds like "Express Yourself."

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MyNameIsPiper said:

Timmy84 said:

^ I know a few "monsters" who claim she is though.

A few? There are tons of little gremlins out there who are like "Fuck Madge and Co.; Gaga is the be-all-end-all!", or they actually choose to acknowledge her as the "new Madonna." No one is claiming that anyone in the music industry is purely original, but some people need to realize that without Madge, Prince and all of the other crazy ass musicians who had the guts to do what they did at that time, there would be no Gaga. Hell, some of the musicians need to realize this!

Oh, and "Born This Way" sounds like "Express Yourself."

You're looking to get the boot as well

Oh, and no the fuck it doesn't.