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Does anybody think that Janelle Monae is more creative then Lady Gaga I got this girl's album and her lyrics and creatitivty is miles ahead of supposed "creative geniuses" like Lady Gaga.
This girl is seriously overlooked and her lyrics are original and soemthing you would remember. The Archandroid is one of the most creative and compelling contemporary R&B album since Amy Winehouse Back to Black album.
She is versatile and can sing whatever she wants I must a true creative talent not getting her due
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we played her Suites II & III in the car last night I thoroughly enjoy her work
I can't say the same about Lady Gaga I still don't get the big deal some of it I DO like (for West Hollywood or if we're at The Circus/The Arena, etc.)
I wish more of Janelle's ideas got executed with more promotion & exposure
that girl is weird because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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I'm now realizing Janelle's musically and artistically is more intriguing than Gaga is so yeah. | |
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my bf just voted for Gaga (of course) because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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I remember when Kimmie (from over there) told me about this Gaga girl... around the time The Fame came out (the first one)
and I went & bought the album & everything and sold it back the next day I just kept pressing skip
the only one I wanted to hear again was "Poker Face"
but since I've moved out here to Cali I've kinda warmed up to her (just a tad) because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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It's clear Janelle is just superior across the board. She just hasn't gotten her breakthrough in terms of exposure to the masses yet. It's clear people know her for her critical acclaim and talent, but I just wish she could get more exposure. I just hope that after Suite IV, she can change it up and not lose her creative spark at the same time. I know that Suites I-IV are gonna be tough acts to follow, but she's gonna be alright. I've been a fan since 2006 and I haven't been disappointed yet. I'm just interested in how her gimmick of using the concept album, wearing the tuxedo and trademark hairstyle is gonna work for her in the future.
As for Gaga, it's clear she's a commercial powerhouse, but her gimmicks onstage and offstage have gotten in the way of the music. I use Gaga as an example of an image being a barrier, instead of art being one. I've never gotten the big deal with her, but it's not surprising. Most listeners of music today are too familiar with the dumb downed acts that the music industry pushes out to the masses. To hear someone so refreshed, unique, original and talented such as Janelle Monae baffles most. When Lady Gaga first was introduced to the public alot of people didn’t get her. Instead the roles have been reversed in a way. Janelle Monae might be quirky in a way but people can’t wrap their heads around her overall persona. I have no doubt in my mind that Janelle Monae surpasses the fake so-called artists like Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna, etc. Those artists just like the many others are manufactured by labels while Janelle Monae stands beyond the normal. Janelle Monae is the epitome of this generation. Metropolis: The Chase Suite and The ArchAndroid are two of the most creative and stunningly ambitious pop recordings in the last 10 years. I have been playing both albums non-stop since....forever.
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I certainly wish her the best I enjoy the first suite the most
we were actually just discussing "Sincerely, Jane" my bf's favorite I think the intro is my favorite part
"no phasers.. only chainsaws & eletro-daggerrrrrs!"
hearing that first suite a handful of years back was the promise of more of the stuff that I've always loved Kelis for
(speaking of which, I'm a lil disappointed with her Fleshtone... I do like it but I don't play it as often as the others) because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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Yeah the first suite EP was a headbuster for me too, but to be honest, I really didn't understand it when it first came out in 2006/2007. I loved "Many Moons" and "Sincerely, Jane." but I really didn't get a true glimpse of her artistry until the "Tightrope" video and release of The ArchAndroid last year. I was starstruck and I instantly listened to Suites I-III in their entirety and I finally understood. It really made sense once and for all. In fact, I've been revisiting Metropolis a lot lately and I enjoy it even more now. The lady certainly got something going on and I hope Suite IV is the grand finale we've all been waiting for. Check me out and add me on:
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hopefully she can breakthrough somehow with ths current release (it's full of great shit!!)
if not, hopefully on release of the fourth suite because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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Well The ArchAndroid made a bigger splash than the first suite did and it brought her into the mainstream more on the strength of "Tightrope" and the album itself, but she still hasn't gotten her breakthrough because I think Janelle's emphasis is more on being album-oriented artist and a great performer overall. Hopefully she can acquire a more established fanbase on both sides of the atlantic with the next release.
I think she's working on a movie based on the first two albums also, so that should be interesting. Check me out and add me on:
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Yes, but she's also too ambitious and unfocused. If she is challenged to reign it in, she could be a huge force.
Anyone see the film, The Five Obstructions? Sometimes artist need to be challenged by limits. Janelle's last album could have been a masterpiece. The elements are there but it's weighed down by it's attempt at being art. Space for sale... | |
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Completely different styles and approaches IMO. I'm a big fan of both for entirely different reasons. | |
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Cannot see the musical similarities
i dig janelle | |
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Really? I wonder if you would feel the same way if their commercial positions were reversed? Creatively I think Janelle Monae and Lady Gaga are fairly similar. They are both more involved in the creation of their music than many of their peers but both also seem to be dependent on co-writers and co-producers.I understand that you don't like Lady Gaga's music but what makes her fake and Janelle real? Janelle is on Puff Daddy's label so it's not as if she is selling her albums out of the trunk of her car. | |
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I can see myself listening to the entire ArchAndroid CD years down the line but only still caring about maybe a few Gaga tracks by then. Janelle is all encompassing music for me while Lady Gaga is more of what I'd be listening to on a night at a club but not really at home. When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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First of all, Puff Daddy and the Bad Boy label is not controlling her product, his label is only distributing her product. My thing with Lady GaGa is that her emphasis is on selling an image that isn't really her and that gets in the way of the music. I personally never got what was so unique about her voice or image. Sure she's talented to today's music listeners and pop culture heads, but it's all been done and heard before. I'm not saying we haven't seen or heard things before that Janelle is doing, but she can effortlessly put her own spin on things and it doesn't sound forced and underdeveloped. I did state that I am worried about how Janelle is gonna follow up her streak of suites after the fourth one. The gimmick that is working for Janelle might be good now, but it is surely gonna wear thin in the future. She hasn't gotten a breakthrough because she hasn't had that breakout song (I thought Tightrope was gonna break her in more), but her thing is about being eccentric not only image wise, but make up for it conceptually and musically as well. In simpler words, she practices what she preaches and you can tell that from her work and performances. [Edited 3/9/11 17:22pm] [Edited 3/9/11 17:23pm] Check me out and add me on:
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#TeamJanelleI'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE UGLY. YOU JUST HAVE BAD LUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MIRRORS AND SUNLIGHT!
RIP Dick Clark, Whitney Houston, Don Cornelius, Heavy D, and Donna Summer. ![]() | |
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I stand by my original post. You claimed that Lady Gaga was manufactured by her label but if you look at the arc of their careers and their creative process they are both fairly similar so by your own logic if Gaga is a creation of her label then Janelle must also be a creation of her label. I like them both and I think that it is fair to say that they both worked hard to get where they are. My point is that it is not necessary for you to tear down one of them in an attempt to build up the other. | |
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Let me say this once and for all. At the beginning of her career, Janelle had her own independent label, Wondaland Arts Society and she was distributing her own material and in control of her own image. She was selling music at college conventions, on the street and in the back of her car from 2005-2006. In fact, her EP, Metropolis was released on her Wonderland label in 2006 way before Diddy picked it up for a worldwide reissue a year later. So, her image was by her and from her. Not a creation from any label. My only gripe with Monae is how the gimmickry with her music, concepts and image is gonna work for her in the future. I don't know how she is going to follow up what she has done by far. I don't look at her as a legend or genius, but she is one of the most appealing and forward-thinking forces out there today. And the music actually proves that. Not the image nor popularity.
I'm not tearing Lady GaGa down. In fact, I even said that both have gimmicks and there is no way to deny that, in terms of eccentricity. Even though I don't listen to GaGa's music much, I've seen interviews and it seems as though her image and motives are forced and people get hung up on that more than her music. From what I've heard from a music standpoint, it's just the same dance-pop stuff that is pushed out there in today's market. She's built a career from that and musically, it's not close to being sophisticated and rich as Janelle's music. So, I don't know where you claim that both ultilize a similar creative process.
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Yup, I knew about Janelle and her first album and it's kind of similar to Lady Gaga's first release (which was an EP not an album but still independent). About two years before she was successful as Lady Gaga she released an EP under her real name (Stefani Germanotta). It wasn't very successful and the music is fairly different than her later stuff but she was hardly an overnight success, she was working for years before she made it big.
I never claimed that their music was similar but I maintain that the way they create their music has similarities. I haven't checked each and every song credit but I believe that most, maybe all, of their songs feature co-writers and co-producers. Neither one of them is able to do everything like Prince, they are both dependent on collaborators but they do heavily contribute to the creation of their music. I think that their creative process has more similarities than differences. What would you say are the differences in the ways they go about creating their music?
I also think that it's kind of silly for you to have such firm opinions about Lady Gaga when you haven't even listened to her full albums. I'm sure that some of your favourite Janelle Monae songs are semi obscure album tracks and Lady Gaga also has some great album tracks. It's true that Lady Gaga is more pop than Janelle Monae but it takes just as much talent and skill to craft a great pop song as it does to craft a great R & B song. The Fame Monster is crammed full of fantastic pop songs, it's not just the singles and a bunch of filler. | |
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Honey, stop talking and just create the music. | |
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And not just for the sake of, either
I love this dame. The album has so many details that doesn't meet the ear the first time, and I love folks identify with it differently.
I swear, the minute I listened to the album the first time, Octavia Butler's Kindred crossed my mind. Turned out that she was in fact one of the inspirations behind this project
I got stuck with Mushrooms & Roses before I thoroughly enjoyed the whole album | |
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Lol her version was cool though. | |
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I don't find Janelles song writing at it's core too exceptional. That being said, I haven't listened to her album in it's entirety...
But I have the feeling, if you put Janelle's songs with just a piano backing and no visuals and then did the same with Lady Gaga, I wouldn't surprised if Gaga's songs translated better than Janelles at a songwriting core.
I think Janelles an exceptional performer with alot of pizazz though and I'd love to see her show!
They're both creative though and the original question is far too broad and subjective. Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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I've been dying for Janelle to put out an acoustic set. This is what usually seals the deal for me. | |
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Actually Janelle's songs are translated greatly at a songwriting core when it comes to an acoustic backing. The proof is here:
She also put a spin to both cuts also effortlessly!
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That spin she put on "Tightrope" was interesting. Just love her to death. Check me out and add me on:
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