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Reply #30 posted 02/03/03 4:29pm

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Saxjedi said:

P.S. Martin Bashir asked him where he got the inspiration for Billie Jean. He didn't write that himself though, did he?
Yes he did. Sole author of words and music, copyrighted to Jackson in 1982.
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Reply #31 posted 02/03/03 5:13pm

Pochacco

Im usually the most cynical person I know but the interview really changed my opinion on him.I feel sorry for him,you can feel his lonliness.

He just doesnt seem to get that people are going to judge him if he has kids to "sleep overs" So like he says its completely innocent but that doesnt make it OK.

Those poor kids of his,what hope of having anything closely regarding a normal life do they ever have

Much love yes Pochacco
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Reply #32 posted 02/03/03 5:16pm

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mistermaxxx said:

rdhull said:

mistermaxxx said:

]Michael Jackson has had far more Impact then those Cats in Black Face Stones.folks Hate for hate's sake without justifying there reasoning.


Im telling Rick James about your behavior!

nuts nuts nuts nuts nuts nuts nuts nuts
yeah that speaks of your Brain most of the time pure Nuts.


lol .. no no no!
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #33 posted 02/03/03 5:18pm

Essence

The guy's sinister, I agree it was all quite disturbing...

No real exclusives to be found in this docu, for being advertised as no question barred over eight months of filming the point of his having final say in the edit was clear. Little of musical note, just continuing the ridiculous assertions we all already know:

* That he's only ever had one operation of facial surgery. This being on his nose and only so that he can hit high notes, later admitted to two.

* Tried to say the children are his through normal relations with women, then it was sperm donor, then it was surrogate mothers (The latest being by a woman he's never met who's black). The truth is they ain't his in anyway except he bought them. biggrin

* Tried to talk about girlfriends etc when his sexuality is clearly geared towards little boys. He's still sharing his bed with them now with some little 12 year old (Multi million payoffs haven't stopped his flow any). Even when giving him benefit of the doubt, when he's feeling horny or aroused who's around and how will he relieve himself? Yes that's right.

Some won't like these points but if he's going to do a documentary on his lifestyle rather than just the music, thoughts will be told...
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Reply #34 posted 02/03/03 8:50pm

Joshy84au

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JimmyNothing said:

Bashir- "What did U do when Prince was born?"
Jacko- "I cried"


Don't like the competition huh Mikey boy?? lol

lol lol

oh u made me laugh jimmy
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Reply #35 posted 02/03/03 8:54pm

Joshy84au

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Pochacco said:

Im usually the most cynical person I know but the interview really changed my opinion on him.I feel sorry for him,you can feel his lonliness.

He just doesnt seem to get that people are going to judge him if he has kids to "sleep overs" So like he says its completely innocent but that doesnt make it OK.

Those poor kids of his,what hope of having anything closely regarding a normal life do they ever have

Much love yes Pochacco

yeha i feel sorry 4 his children too...
cos the haters in this fuckin world who do nothing but give their dad a hard time...
THOSE CHILDREN have 2 put up with hearing & reading all this.

but people r assholes
so what cna u do?
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Reply #36 posted 02/03/03 8:56pm

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Essence said:

The guy's sinister, I agree it was all quite disturbing...

No real exclusives to be found in this docu, for being advertised as no question barred over eight months of filming the point of his having final say in the edit was clear. Little of musical note, just continuing the ridiculous assertions we all already know:

* That he's only ever had one operation of facial surgery. This being on his nose and only so that he can hit high notes, later admitted to two.

* Tried to say the children are his through normal relations with women, then it was sperm donor, then it was surrogate mothers (The latest being by a woman he's never met who's black). The truth is they ain't his in anyway except he bought them. biggrin

* Tried to talk about girlfriends etc when his sexuality is clearly geared towards little boys. He's still sharing his bed with them now with some little 12 year old (Multi million payoffs haven't stopped his flow any). Even when giving him benefit of the doubt, when he's feeling horny or aroused who's around and how will he relieve himself? Yes that's right.

Some won't like these points but if he's going to do a documentary on his lifestyle rather than just the music, thoughts will be told...

its funny...
the only posts i ever see from u r slandering & tearing down Michael Jackson.
get a life!
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Reply #37 posted 02/03/03 8:58pm

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i have sed this b4,i am saying it again:
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Michael has donated more time,money & resources 2 charities in an attempt 2 try & make this world a better place . .. . yes he id giving his ,money & time FOR U!!! for everyone & those who are less fortunate,& children.

he puts up with enuf bullshit trying 2 have a career,trying 2 have a private life,trying 2 raise 3 children,he dont need this kinda bullshit which,ppl call him wacko. . .. .well when u have 2 hear & read this kinda shit everyday,i wouldnt blame him 4 having low self esteem at least!!
i saw his show in 1996,still the best nite of my life! he has made me happy & millions worldwide with his music & his humanitarian efforts. . . . .& if ur trying 2 sway others 2 think the way u do,well ur gonna fail here cos i will always respect MJ & Love him 4 what he has done in my eyes.

LEAVE MICHAEL ALONE !!!

cos joshy sed so!
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Reply #38 posted 02/04/03 1:33am

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Didn't the guy who made the documentary call MJ a disturbing individual? Sounds like he made the documentary to back up his point.
Not that I needed a documentary to tell me that. It's as plain as the nose that used to be on Michael's face.
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Reply #39 posted 02/04/03 1:48am

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The nose on his face which looks exactly like the Disney Peter Pan's nose. I'd never noticed that before.

You know, at least MJ has some reasons for being screwed up - what excuses did those crazy fans have? I don't think even Natasha could be that demented.
I know u people worthless scum give no heart but wrath of insults a brain-driven wave of destruction your bite is worse than your vocabulary. Shame on you all of you. Go feed your pigs coward.
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Reply #40 posted 02/04/03 2:10am

deeplove

HE'S TRULY AMAZING.
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Reply #41 posted 02/04/03 2:37am

SpiritChild

Its interesting that the documentary lasted 2 hours and yet only about 2 minutes had any reference to his music.
Watching those same tired old dance moves just left you feeling pity for him.
His role in todays world has nothing to do with music,he has been reduced to a freak for the rest of the world to gawp at.
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Reply #42 posted 02/04/03 4:05am

mrdespues

It just aired here in Australia tonight.

I am left feeling a deep sadness for Michael Jackson.

It made me feel that Prince is like the boy next door compared to Michael Jackson.

I want to believe that he is completely and utterly ok, even if he is a little strange and I am definitely wary of journalistic tactics which may have been employed to painted a darker picture; something more scandalous. But I think Michael Jackson has a lot of scars and needs help and I don't think he is capable of bringing up those kids.

I mean, WHY have a veil on his newest baby for the interview when we could see the baby's face anyway through it? And the way he was shaking that baby like it was on a thigh master!

And another thing...His children were basically WHITE. And he claims the youngest one had a black mother.

It doesn't all add up somewhere, people...that's all I can say.

This man really needs help...he needs to be saved from the world he has created for himself.

That's what I think...see it for yourself.
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Reply #43 posted 02/04/03 4:10am

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I thought it was very insightful and interesting.The world in which he moves is right for him.there is nothing sinister there, the man is sadly a 12 year old boy still.People cannot possibly comprehend what it is like to be him, therefore he must be 'wrong' while they are 'right'.

I have every respect for him, in the way he allows terminally ill children who's dying wish is to visit him, to do so. and the way he has shaped his world.as long as he's happy, and he's making other people happy,what's the problem?

I'd rather my kids followed this peaceful man's example than some jumped up Gangsta rapper's.

The rest of the world needs to take a look at itself, it's ugly, not Michael.
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Reply #44 posted 02/04/03 6:48am

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Joshy84au said:

...i saw his show in 1996,still the best nite of my life...


So... never seen Prince in concert then? lol
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Reply #45 posted 02/04/03 6:53am

papaa

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Its interesting that the documentary lasted 2 hours and yet only about 2 minutes had any reference to his music.
Watching those same tired old dance moves just left you feeling pity for him.
His role in todays world has nothing to do with music,he has been reduced to a freak for the rest of the world to gawp at.
IT'S AMAZING THAT PEOPLE STILL...

Criticse MJ for performing his TRADEMARK moves. SC, do you feel pity towards James Brown for performing the splits - FORTY YEARS on? Have you ever called Prince into question for continuing to wear heels?
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Reply #46 posted 02/04/03 7:54am

nas3110

mrdespues said:

It just aired here in Australia tonight.

I am left feeling a deep sadness for Michael Jackson.

It made me feel that Prince is like the boy next door compared to Michael Jackson.

I want to believe that he is completely and utterly ok, even if he is a little strange and I am definitely wary of journalistic tactics which may have been employed to painted a darker picture; something more scandalous. But I think Michael Jackson has a lot of scars and needs help and I don't think he is capable of bringing up those kids.

I mean, WHY have a veil on his newest baby for the interview when we could see the baby's face anyway through it? And the way he was shaking that baby like it was on a thigh master!

And another thing...His children were basically WHITE. And he claims the youngest one had a black mother.

It doesn't all add up somewhere, people...that's all I can say.

This man really needs help...he needs to be saved from the world he has created for himself.

That's what I think...see it for yourself.



I did. The whole thing was hilarious. He's a seriously sick man.
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Reply #47 posted 02/04/03 8:24am

Essence

Joshy84au said:

Essence said:

The guy's sinister, I agree it was all quite disturbing...

No real exclusives to be found in this docu, for being advertised as no question barred over eight months of filming the point of his having final say in the edit was clear. Little of musical note, just continuing the ridiculous assertions we all already know:

* That he's only ever had one operation of facial surgery. This being on his nose and only so that he can hit high notes, later admitted to two.

* Tried to say the children are his through normal relations with women, then it was sperm donor, then it was surrogate mothers (The latest being by a woman he's never met who's black). The truth is they ain't his in anyway except he bought them. biggrin

* Tried to talk about girlfriends etc when his sexuality is clearly geared towards little boys. He's still sharing his bed with them now with some little 12 year old (Multi million payoffs haven't stopped his flow any). Even when giving him benefit of the doubt, when he's feeling horny or aroused who's around and how will he relieve himself? Yes that's right.

Some won't like these points but if he's going to do a documentary on his lifestyle rather than just the music, thoughts will be told...

its funny...
the only posts i ever see from u r slandering & tearing down Michael Jackson.
get a life!


Joshy you cheeky dumpling, this came off as a childish pubescent rant but I'll humour you. I have made nearly 1500 posts at Prince.Org and if you can find two threads in which I make even remotely anti-MJ comments I'll give you a lollipop. The two threads recently reporting genuine news items obviously don't count, maybe only the true fans want to know ALL the latest and not the edited highlights?

I own all his music but that's not the point I spoke on the documentary and my take on it. I don't know if you've even seen the documentary but here the fact he is still bedsharing with little boys is major news and my take as a follower of his music is pretty mild. I agree with others who wonder what he actually got out of having this docu filmed? Nothing new except lies and evidence of his learning nothing from $26m payoffs to young boys.

As for the "get a life" rant your only seeing me "slandering and tearing down Michael Jackson" when it's clearly not true implies the nature of threads you predominantly check and your life actually seems to revolve around MJ and defending his sinister ways...

You seem frustrated over your pin-up but give it up man your 18, MJ ain't gonna have you over at Neverland for a night of riding his "attractions" anytime soon. If you were wanting that backstage groupie action the show you saw in 1996 was the time for all that... you were a tender 12/13 years old.
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Reply #48 posted 02/04/03 8:26am

Essence

shygirl said:

Didn't the guy who made the documentary call MJ a disturbing individual? Sounds like he made the documentary to back up his point.
Not that I needed a documentary to tell me that. It's as plain as the nose that used to be on Michael's face.


Nah when you see the documentary you'll find it was filmed with no agenda. At the end a temper tantrum/breakdown etc were actually edited out on Michael's say so.
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Reply #49 posted 02/04/03 8:30am

Essence

Joshy84au said:

i have sed this b4,i am saying it again:
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Michael has donated more time,money & resources 2 charities in an attempt 2 try & make this world a better place . .. . yes he id giving his ,money & time FOR U!!! for everyone & those who are less fortunate,& children.

he puts up with enuf bullshit trying 2 have a career,trying 2 have a private life,trying 2 raise 3 children,he dont need this kinda bullshit which,ppl call him wacko. . .. .well when u have 2 hear & read this kinda shit everyday,i wouldnt blame him 4 having low self esteem at least!!
i saw his show in 1996,still the best nite of my life! he has made me happy & millions worldwide with his music & his humanitarian efforts. . . . .& if ur trying 2 sway others 2 think the way u do,well ur gonna fail here cos i will always respect MJ & Love him 4 what he has done in my eyes.

LEAVE MICHAEL ALONE !!!

cos joshy sed so!


While any genuine charitable work is always welcome, MJ is worth $1bn allegedly and never fails to report his good work and have a camera crew nearby. Nobody can lecture another on what they spend their cash on but during this docu he proceeded to waste $3m+ in one shopping spree in a tacky store. Someone who really wanted to make a difference could have put that money to better use IMO.
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Reply #50 posted 02/04/03 9:28am

SpiritChild

papaa said:

SpiritChild said:

Its interesting that the documentary lasted 2 hours and yet only about 2 minutes had any reference to his music.
Watching those same tired old dance moves just left you feeling pity for him.
His role in todays world has nothing to do with music,he has been reduced to a freak for the rest of the world to gawp at.
IT'S AMAZING THAT PEOPLE STILL...

Criticse MJ for performing his TRADEMARK moves. SC, do you feel pity towards James Brown for performing the splits - FORTY YEARS on? Have you ever called Prince into question for continuing to wear heels?

Its just so boring.Robotics and moonwalking are hardly revolutionary are they?I suppose he'll mime his way through another world tour to keep you happy.They say he does'nt play any instruments but you should hear him tapping that triangle-pure magic.
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Reply #51 posted 02/04/03 10:29am

tommyalma

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Michael just doing His thing.



whoa...capitalizing "his?" Like normal people do when referring to God?

mistermaxxx is over the edge. Take everything he says with a grain of salt. He is not a normal human being.

He worships Michael Jackson.
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Reply #52 posted 02/04/03 11:03am

Essence

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mistermaxxx said:

Michael just doing His thing.



whoa...capitalizing "his?" Like normal people do when referring to God?

mistermaxxx is over the edge. Take everything he says with a grain of salt. He is not a normal human being.

He worships Michael Jackson.


Blasphemer! Thou shalt burn in the poisonous sulphur of Neverland's amusement park for eternity! :O
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Reply #53 posted 02/04/03 12:50pm

Marrk

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tommyalma said:

mistermaxxx said:

Michael just doing His thing.



whoa...capitalizing "his?" Like normal people do when referring to God?

mistermaxxx is over the edge. Take everything he says with a grain of salt. He is not a normal human being.

He worships Michael Jackson.


So, there are some nutty people on here that worship Prince too.What's your point?
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Reply #54 posted 02/04/03 1:19pm

mistermaxxx

Michael Jackson is One of the Baddest Cats to Ever Rock this Planet Period.the Cat made some tight Ass Music&Rocked for a Long time.Musically I'll always give MJ madd Props because the Cat is a Madd MF when He applies Himself fully.but as far that other BS He does:I ain't got no comment on that Crap.I don't Worship MJ at all.Musically I I know the Cat is a Badd Ass but Personally I don't know about the Cat.it ain't my Business&I ain't thinking about MJ off the Stage or the Studio.but I notice all these Peeps breaking there Neck to report what MJ says&Soak up His words.I don't ever quote His Interviews like that or pay the Cat that kind of mind or attention like some peeps do Here who don't even like MJ or His Music? now who is Worshipping Him??it ain't me
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Reply #55 posted 02/04/03 1:22pm

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Reply #56 posted 02/04/03 7:51pm

FirstAvenue

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It's as plain as the nose that used to be on Michael's face.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Reply #57 posted 02/04/03 7:51pm

FirstAvenue

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Michael Jackson is One of the Baddest Cats to Ever Rock this Planet Period.the Cat made some tight Ass Music&Rocked for a Long time.Musically I'll always give MJ madd Props because the Cat is a Madd MF when He applies Himself fully.but as far that other BS He does:I ain't got no comment on that Crap.I don't Worship MJ at all.Musically I I know the Cat is a Badd Ass but Personally I don't know about the Cat.it ain't my Business&I ain't thinking about MJ off the Stage or the Studio.but I notice all these Peeps breaking there Neck to report what MJ says&Soak up His words.I don't ever quote His Interviews like that or pay the Cat that kind of mind or attention like some peeps do Here who don't even like MJ or His Music? now who is Worshipping Him??it ain't me

have u EVER heard of a little thing called "punctuation"?? rolleyes

HOOOOO!!!!! hammer
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Reply #58 posted 02/04/03 8:06pm

mrdespues

Despite seeing this program last night and being amazed, worried and saddened a little (please see my previous post in this thread), I went out today and bought Thriller and Off the Wall Special Editions on CD because I really love the music. He is by no means my favourite artist (Prince is), but despite his eccentricities and questionable lifestyle, he has lived that life all his life and I will always have a place in my heart for him and his music. (awww smile)
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Reply #59 posted 02/04/03 8:19pm

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I bacically agree with Essence on his take on this show.

I think MJ's childlife was fucked up and he has never really grown up. I suspect that he is totally sexually disfunctional. However, it is still weird being a 44 year old man having children sleepover in his room.

He could be molesting them, it's hard to know. Most paedophiles carry on about the beauty of children just like Michael and they nearly all plead their complete innocence.

He definately lied about his facial surgery. No doubt at all.

I feel sorry for him but I feel even more sorry for his children (which are OBVIOUSLY in no way related to him biologically). He makes them wear dumbass masks in public, takes them into places of danger, denies them their mothers, denies them schooling. All on top of his deranged view of the world.
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