I don't think it's that bad like people make it seem , some tracks are underrated imo.

babybugz said:

I don't think it's that bad like people make it seem , some tracks are underrated imo.

It's either that or 20 YO. Both were trash.

No way. Dream Street is by far her worst.

Moonbeam said:

No way. Dream Street is by far her worst.

Bullshit.

^ Same person that likes 'Hold It Against Me'.

Nah...it's this one:

Discipline was an admirable record with some great cuts, but you can tell her heart wasn't really in it. The uptempo cuts were some of her best ones in a while, but the ballads (excluding the underrated "This Can't B Good") were just fluff. It wasn't a great album, but a decent one at best. 20 Y.O. was a better effort!

musicjunky318 said:

Moonbeam said:

No way. Dream Street is by far her worst.

Bullshit.

It is! Like her debut, it was really just an excuse for Janet to try her hand in music, but at least the debut had some charm and used second-rate songs instead of the fourth-rate songs of Dream Street.

silverchild said:

Nah...it's this one:

Discipline was an admirable record with some great cuts, but you can tell her heart wasn't really in it. The uptempo cuts were some of her best ones in a while, but the ballads (excluding the underrated "This Can't B Good") were just fluff. It wasn't a great album, but a decent one at best. 20 Y.O. was a better effort!

I agree with just about all of this!

Discipline definitely had a bunch of strong uptempo tracks, where 20 Y.O. excelled with its slow tracks. I like both, although I recognize that they aren't up there with her best work.

Dream Street was the worst.

Least Discipline had some decent cuts on it to me lol she could've done a better job but still...

And Dream Street's cover STILL looks like she's got a gloved FOOT in her hair to me.

Moonbeam said:

musicjunky318 said:

Bullshit.

It is! Like her debut, it was really just an excuse for Janet to try her hand in music, but at least the debut had some charm and used second-rate songs instead of the fourth-rate songs of Dream Street.

Her debut even edges Dream Street and Discipline out, in my opinion. Her pre-Control stuff was a move for her to get her foot running in the music game, but that first album had some cuts on it which makes it memorable. Dream Street was just...

trueiopian said:

^ Same person that likes 'Hold It Against Me'.

I wasn't insinuating it was her best. I just disagreed it wasn't her worst.

Discipline is the worst followed by 20 YO, followed by Dreamstreet.

Moonbeam said:

And Dream Street's cover STILL looks like she's got a gloved FOOT in her hair to me.

That was one WEIRD glove!

silverchild said:

Moonbeam said:

It is! Like her debut, it was really just an excuse for Janet to try her hand in music, but at least the debut had some charm and used second-rate songs instead of the fourth-rate songs of Dream Street.

Her debut even edges Dream Street and Discipline out, in my opinion. Her pre-Control stuff was a move for her to get her foot running in the music game, but that first album had some cuts on it which makes it memorable. Dream Street was just...

Yeah the debut album definitely had some great moments ("Come Give Your Love to Me", "Say You Do", "Young Love", "Love and My Best Friend"... ).

Yep Dream Street was I have it too

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Her debut even edges Dream Street and Discipline out, in my opinion. Her pre-Control stuff was a move for her to get her foot running in the music game, but that first album had some cuts on it which makes it memorable. Dream Street was just...

Yeah the debut album definitely had some great moments ("Come Give Your Love to Me", "Say You Do", "Young Love", "Love and My Best Friend"... ).

Her debut is a lot better than people think. It's underrated.

silverchild said:

Moonbeam said:

It is! Like her debut, it was really just an excuse for Janet to try her hand in music, but at least the debut had some charm and used second-rate songs instead of the fourth-rate songs of Dream Street.

Her debut even edges Dream Street and Discipline out, in my opinion. Her pre-Control stuff was a move for her to get her foot running in the music game, but that first album had some cuts on it which makes it memorable. Dream Street was just...

I kind of like her debut, too.

I'd rank and rate her albums this way:

1. Rhythm Nation 1814: 5 stars

2. All for You: 5 stars (I know this is an unpopular pick)

3. The Velvet Rope: 5 stars

4. Control: 4.5 stars

5. janet.: 4 stars

6. 20 Y.O.: 4 stars

7. Discipline: 4 stars

8. Damita Jo: 3.5 stars

9. Janet Jackson: 2.5 stars

10. Dream Street: 1 star

Which album has You Can't Stand Another Chance or whatever it's called? Dare I say that's one of my all time favs from her?

1. Rhythm Nation

2. Janet.

3. The Velvet Rope

4. Control

5. Damita Jo

6. All For You

7. Janet Jackson

8. Dreamstreet

9. 20 YO

10. Discipline

20 Y.O. is Janet's worst album ever. Aside from Enjoy and Love 2 Love that album is just....

Discipline isn't that bad, though. Feedback is still the shit. Can't B Good and So Much Betta are cute too. Everything else is mediocre.

EDIT - How could I forget those atrocious ballads Never Letcha Go and Greatest X and Discipline "Daddy make me cry"

But I think Can't B Good and What's Ur Name are OK. Still forgettable, though. The same can be said for the other uptempos.

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sosgemini said:

Which album has You Can't Stand Another Chance or whatever it's called? Dare I say that's one of my all time favs from her?

Dream Street I love that song too. Dream Street isn't that bad to me.

Moonbeam said:

silverchild said:

Her debut even edges Dream Street and Discipline out, in my opinion. Her pre-Control stuff was a move for her to get her foot running in the music game, but that first album had some cuts on it which makes it memorable. Dream Street was just...

I kind of like her debut, too.

I'd rank and rate her albums this way:

1. Rhythm Nation 1814: 5 stars

2. All for You: 5 stars (I know this is an unpopular pick)

3. The Velvet Rope: 5 stars

4. Control: 4.5 stars

5. janet.: 4 stars

6. 20 Y.O.: 4 stars

7. Discipline: 4 stars

8. Damita Jo: 3.5 stars

9. Janet Jackson: 2.5 stars

10. Dream Street: 1 star

trueiopian said:

20 Y.O. is Janet's worst album ever. Aside from Enjoy and Love 2 Love that album is just....

Discipline isn't that bad, though. Feedback is still the shit. Can't B Good and So Much Betta are cute too. Everything else is mediocre.

I didn't like anything on Discipline. AT LEAST I enjoyed Enjoy on 20 YO. That's why it's a step above.

trueiopian said:

sosgemini said:

Which album has You Can't Stand Another Chance or whatever it's called? Dare I say that's one of my all time favs from her?

Dream Street I love that song too. Dream Street isn't that bad to me.

I like If It Takes All Night

trueiopian said:

Moonbeam said:

I kind of like her debut, too.

I'd rank and rate her albums this way:

1. Rhythm Nation 1814: 5 stars

2. All for You: 5 stars (I know this is an unpopular pick)

3. The Velvet Rope: 5 stars

4. Control: 4.5 stars

5. janet.: 4 stars

6. 20 Y.O.: 4 stars

7. Discipline: 4 stars

8. Damita Jo: 3.5 stars

9. Janet Jackson: 2.5 stars

10. Dream Street: 1 star

What can I say? I'm a big Janet fan. I'm sure I overrate a lot of her work, but hey - it's Janet.

Looking at it, though, I think those are fair ratings for my taste - take from that what you will!

From 20 Y.O., I really, really love "With U", "Enjoy", "Take Care" and "Sho Me", and I also quite like "Do It 2 Me", "Love 2 Love" and "Daybreak". The only track I dislike on it is "This Body".

From Discipline, I adore "Feedback", "Rock With U" and "2Nite" and quite like "So Much Betta", "Luv", "What's Ur Name" and "Let Me Know". "The Greatest Ex" is embarrassing, but again, I really like the album.

I find I'm more willing to put up with lesser work from my favorites.

Are you kidding me? It's the best or second best of the 00's from her catalogue. It has a lot of underrated cuts. I guess some of the ballads and uptempos have to grow on you, but they are really pretty. Maybe her vocals are lazy on some of the songs though, but they sound pretty too at the same time.

trueiopian said:

sosgemini said:

Which album has You Can't Stand Another Chance or whatever it's called? Dare I say that's one of my all time favs from her?

Dream Street I love that song too. Dream Street isn't that bad to me.

Aight, so you all made me listen to that song for the first time in decades and ummm, i hear MJ---never noticed that before, but is this an MJ written song?

sosgemini said:

trueiopian said:

Dream Street I love that song too. Dream Street isn't that bad to me.

Aight, so you all made me listen to that song for the first time in decades and ummm, i hear MJ---never noticed that before, but is this an MJ written song?

HELL NAW!

babybugz said:

trueiopian said:

Dream Street I love that song too. Dream Street isn't that bad to me.

I like If It Takes All Night

I like the two too but overall the album is YEEEECH.

alphastreet said:

Are you kidding me? It's the best or second best of the 00's from her catalogue. It has a lot of underrated cuts. I guess some of the ballads and uptempos have to grow on you, but they are really pretty. Maybe her vocals are lazy on some of the songs though, but they sound pretty too at the same time.

All For You and Damita Jo >