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yep, shitty list, despite a couple of blasphemies. The late-90s singles were corny, but at least catchy...
As I said some months before in another thread, 2004 was the year when Billboard and the mainstream radio finally DIED: not only the singles were corny, but also dull, NOT catchy and completely average. If you look at the number ones of the 04-07 era, you should ask yourself : "and this shit was a number 1????"; 2008-2009 was a brief resurrection...but 2010 has been pretty dull as well...not as insulting as 2004-2007 though...
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Even though the 2000s will be known as the worst decade for music in the mainstream urban scene since who knows when (unless the 2010s takes the crown), I will say there were several good albums that made me have hope for a minute...They are:
(2000-2004)
2000: D'Angelo- Voodoo 2000: Lucy Pearl- Lucy Pearl 2000: Erykah Badu- Mama's Gun 2000: Outkast- Stankonia 2000: Eminem- The Marshall Mathers LP 2000: Snoop Dogg- Tha Last Meal 2000: Wyclef Jean- The Ecleftic 2001: Nikka Costa- Everybody Got Their Something 2001: Dungeon Family: Even In Darkness 2001: Prince- The Rainbow Children 2001: Missy Elliott- Miss E...So Addictive 2001: Aaliyah- Aaliyah 2001: 2Pac- Until The End Of Time 2001: Isley Brothers- Eternal 2002: N.E.R.D.- In Search Of...(Live Band Version) 2002: Cee-Lo- Cee-Lo Green and His Perfect Imperfections 2002: Eminem- The Eminem Show 2002: The Roots- Pherenology 2003: Outkast- Speakerboxxx/The Love Below 2003: Earth,Wind & Fire- The Promise 2003: Robert Randolph & The Family Band- Unclassified 2003: Erykah Badu- Worldwide Underground 2004: Prince- Musicology 2004: N.E.R.D.- Fly Or Die 2004: Van Hunt- Van Hunt 2004: The Roots- The Tipping Point
2005-2009
2005- George Clinton & P-Funk: How Late Do U Have 2 Be B4 Ur Considered Absent? 2005- Earth,Wind & Fire- Illumination 2006- Prince-3121 2006- Gnarls Barkley- St. Elsewhere 2006- Outkast- Idlewild 2006- Van Hunt- On The Jungle Floor 2006- Snoop Dogg- Tha Blue Carpet Treatment 2006- Robert Randolph & The Family Band- Colorblind 2006- KARAUS + exiles of the nation- Taylor Road 2007- Janelle Monae- Metropolis E.P. (Was only 17 min, but still cool) 2007- Joss Stone- Introducing Joss Stone 2007- Prince- Planet Earth 2007- Jay-Z- American Gangster 2008- N.E.R.D.- Seeing Sounds 2008- vM + exiles of the nation- Escape From Trap City!!! 2008- Erykah Badu- New Amerykah Part One 2009- Prince- LotusFlow3r 2009- Maxwell- BLACKSummers'Night
The only 44 "urban" CDs I dug (or at least dug songs from) in a span of 10 long, frustrating years...& I had to make two of 'em myself. [Edited 1/13/11 6:21am] Exiles of the Nation
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no love for Common's "Like Water For Chocolate"? that was 2000, right? and Mos Def's "Black on Both Sides", but i'm not sure if that wasn't out in the last month or so of 1999.
anyway, they NEED to be amongst those
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Hmm, I might argue that most of the music circa 2000-2010 was so indistinguished that not many songs made much of a negative impact. It was all a tidal wave of garbage that sounded the same so it is difficult to single out any one particular song as being awful. At least give the crappy songs from the '90s credit for being distinguished crap. | |
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How could we (especially you) can be "struck in the past" when some artists of THIS present are clones of the original artists of the past?
EXAMPLES:
Lady Gaga = David Bowe + Madonna + Cher + Grace Jones
Usher = Michael Jackson + Bobby Brown
Beyonce = Tina Turner + Diana Ross
Nicki Minaj = Lil'Kim
Ciara = Janet Jackson
Lil'Wayne = 2pac - rap lyrics that actually makes any damn sense!
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I agree, but the record companies need to hold their hands up high! They created the monster that we all now feed.....they killed the real artist because it costs them to much money to keep them going and they turn the clock back to the early 60's / 50's when they had all the power, control and money .... and Act's like Britney Spares etc.... took over ... Eye Was Born & Raised On The Same Plantation In The United States Of The Red, White And Blue Eye Never Knew That Eye Was Different Til Dr. King Was On The Balcony
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Yeah...you're right about Common, that was a good one. I also liked tracks from 2002s Electric Circus & 2004s Be. Mos Def's Black On Both Sides was released in October 1999, but close enough. He's dope... But if I included that, I would've definitely included Dr. Dre's 2001. I still listen to that.
I also forgot to include Mike's Invincible from 2001. Don't know how, I'm forced to perform You Rock My World everytime I perform with my father's band.
Other albums I forgot to mention include Fishbone's 2006s Still Stuck In Your Throat (even though its straight up ska/funk/metal, which is all good with me), & Joi's 2002s Star Kitty's Revenge & 2006s Tennessee Slim Is The Bomb...Some songs from 2004s Urban Legend & 2006s King from T.I. were good.
Mariah's Glitter was pretty funky for Mariah (if that makes sense) , & of course 2005s Emancipation of Mimi was good as well. Kanye...hmmm. 2007s Graduation. Would say 2008s 808s & Heartbreak also, but the autotune just goes overboard
Pop-wise, Madonna came out with alot of good stuff...I actually dug some of American Life, Music, Confessions On A Dance Floor & Hard Candy. No Doubt's Rock Steady from 2000 was good. (HellaGood & Waiting Room are still the sh**) Dare I mention T-Lake? OK...Rock Your Body should have belonged to MJ, but it's good. Like I Love U & Cry Me A River, cool. My Love, alright. Sexy Back is straight up N'Sync.
That's all I got right now...Just trying to find some good in a dismal, unexperimental decade. Some artists did at least try, given the circumstances of an industry that tried their best to erase creativity from their equation.
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That's what I wanted to say many posts ago.
see, the more you think about it, the more good music you remember from the 2000s
gonna give "electric circus" another spin tonight, haven't heard it in a while and it's such a good album.
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I'm not saying the 90s is worse, but the 00s produced Kid Cudi. That is all. | |
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I can't tell if you are saying that's a point in favour or against the '00s? | |
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Yeah...
It seems people wanted to party again & make music with harder, faster beats in the 2000s, but the problem with that was they couldn't throw down anymore. Because they lost, forgot or never knew the concept of funk, barely any of the uptempos had any soul or bite to it (& no lyrical substance at all/no live instrumentation). Everything is computerized...it's like listening to a bunch of commercials.
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There were some good things in the 2000s, but too much attention went to the BS. I will say one thing that was annoying as hell in the 90s were ballads...Too many of 'em. There is a difference between a good slow song, & just the sappiest, corniest syrup ever made. It was like they wanted to repeat the AOR mellow "easy listening" sound of the 1970s. I liked some of Babyface's music as a solo artist & some of his production/songwriting. But he REALLY went overboard with the ballads. I think that's why I loved the G-Funk sound so much...it was kind of like what P-Funk was to alot of the clean-cut sugary music of the 70s (& 80s for that matter).
I don't doubt that you can find a lot of good music which was created in the 00s. But:
1) Quite a lot of this music was not part of the mainstream (I personally tend to dislike a lot of the mainstream stuff mentioned above btw). In other words: the percentage of musical garbage on mainstream radio was unacceptably high in the 00s.
2) I don't see the new musical movenment or genre with significant visibility that was created in the 00s. What will be associated with this decade when people remember it in, let's say, 30 years from now? The 90s had grunge, house, Eurodance, Britpop, boybands and hip-hop influenced R'n'B. Not all of that is good (some even awful), but it is at least something new. The 00s only produced the casting show as its only contribution to the history of popular music.
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Yeah...ur 100% correct on everything you said, & I'll even agree on tending to dislike alot of what I mentioned... But, you gotta understand, I live in Atlanta, GA. So-called 21st Century hip-hop capital... Born & raised...I swear, we have some of the most unintelligent, un-creative music on the radio played on a hourly basis (a.k.a. dopeboy rap, trap musik (That's why they call Atlanta "Trap City"). T.I. is sort of an exception, he can actually rap, & some of his music uses live instrumentation. Alot of these cats here can't at all... I never listen to mainstream radio anymore, but for most of the 2000s, my ex-girlfriends couldn't live without it.
It was torture always having to listen to that stuff when they were in the car. So, when the stations finally played something with a little substance (live instruments, semi-funky,etc.), it was like a breath of fresh air or oxygen after being forced to listen to songs that will lower your I.Q. if you hear it enough. The thing with the 2000s were, alot of mainstream artists truly stopped being real artists. They were only products of their producers...
For example, I like N.E.R.D. So when Justin or whoever else they produced came on, I wasn't really listening to the "artist", I was listening to the Neptunes. I like Outkast, so when John Legend's "Greenlight" was all over radio, I liked it 'cause Dre3000 produced & appeared on it. I'm not a fan of alot of the stuff I listed, but they were miles away from everything else the Atlanta stations usually play. Exiles of the Nation
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I still think the musical mainstream was just as bad in the 90s as it was in the 00s. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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I like the 90s better, but I said that in favor of the 00s. | |
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Excellent post! Andy is a four letter word. | |
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The 2000's. I actually like the music from the 1990's...there was still some talented artists back then. | |
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Anyway, who could have thought that the mainstream music of the 00s (and 2010) would be COMPLETELY electronic??? (at least, since 2004)
do you consider the 00s as the "golden age" of electronic music, in terms of sales and popularity??? (not quality). I do, I certainly do.... | |
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