The Cranberries? D'ye hav to, d'ye hav to, d'ye hav to lerr'ih lin'grrrrr | |
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excellent post and you're absolutely right | |
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I respect the Cranberries but I can't even hear their greatest hits album in a row; I love 7 or 8 singles and that's all... | |
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I go maybe 1 or 2 deep with them. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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I'm so glad that shitty scene disappeared in the early-00s... Sadly, the best (by far) lady of that scene, Shania Twain, is MIA these days .... FUCK YOU Robert JMLange...just fuck you... | |
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Dreams Linger Ode to My Family Zombie Ridiculous Thoughts Salvation Promises Just My Imagination | |
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I say to that whole scene, unless you count Björk, PJ Harvey and Liz Phair (through Whip-Smart). Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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not Bjork, I include her under the "late-90s electronic music" label
PJ Harvey and Tori Amos were the serious, "famous but not poppy" version of the female singer/songwriter genre , which was pure bubblegum pop played with acoustic & bland electric guitars, loud live drums and cute female voices...
Liz Phair was just image, "attitude" and bullshit, just a scam... | |
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Her subsequent albums surely make it seem that way.
I still love Exile in Guyville and Whip-Smart, though. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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I enjoy all their first record, there're some real beautiful, mellow, melancholic songs. | |
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Exile in Guyville was good, not the kind of rock album I like, but good nonetheless, and it paid homage to the monumental Exile in Main Street (Stones, 1972) so I can't complain plus I love those naughty, bitchy, horny, "fuck you" lyrics... [Edited 1/12/11 17:26pm] | |
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Did Shania write her own songs? I always saw her as a Celine Dion type ploughing the country-pop route.
I know with Jagged Little Pill an outside songwriter co-wrote, but it was still a consistently strong collection that I think deserved its plaudits. | |
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More like the female version of Garth Brooks. Shania writes songs, yes: curiously, in her own words, dark, downbeat country/folk songs that were not included in her albums. That's why her albums are full of anthemic country/rock/pop, co-written by professional songwriters...so yes, you can call her a sellout... I'm not sayin' she's a great/visionary artist or whatever, but her voice is beautiful, she can play guitar, and she was one of the few charismatic AND entertaining acts of the whole female singer/songwriter genre, a genre which was, for the most part, boring and uncharismatic... She's probably a has-been now, I have (hate) to admit that...
I can't stand JLP, the only single that I found truly strong was Ironic, and perhaps, Hand in My Pocket, but the voice is terrible, she sings like a goat!! | |
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I've listened to very few new music acts during 1990-2010. Most of the new stuff I bought was people I liked already such as George Benson, Sade, Swing Out Sister, Stevie Wonder, Duran Duran, Prince, etc. I like listening to oldies, so I have plenty to listen to. I can buy an old album from the used record store or flea market that I've never heard before and it's new to me. I don't really need newly recorded music. I prefer the sound of analogue over digital anyway. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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It's just that Don't Impress Me Much song got on my nerves for a while way back. I saw her night on American Idol and was surprised how many of the good songs I knew but hadn't attributed to her, so her relative worth shot up, aided by the fact I'm shallow enough to give her extra credit because she's beautiful.
I don't know Garth Brooks, but I'd put Lucinda Williams in the dark, downbeat country category. | |
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I'm not a fan of Shania but there is absolutely no denying that she was extremely popular. It's not a perfect comparison but she's kind of the country/pop version of Michael Jackson. Most modern country acts release an album a year with two, maybe three singles. Shania's albums were events with multiple singles just like Michael's were. I don't think it's a huge stretch to compare The Woman In Me, Come On Over and Up! to Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad, as far as the impact they had on their respective genres and all six albums are like mini greatest hits albums.
I have to admit that I do like that video where she grabs her boobs. [Edited 1/12/11 18:34pm] | |
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The 2000s, hands down, worse decade of popular urban music EVER. Of course, I love Rock music, but for the most part, that genre has sustained itself from the 90s to now. (Except for those watered down VH-1 Rock bands). But the invention of RockBand/Guitar Hero has made rock music even more popular than ever (even among people of color, unfortunately it doesn't equal more Black bands/musicians )
I know some here don't like the Death Row G-Funk era of '91-'96, but outside of some of Outkast's music, it was truly the last stand for funk music in the mainstream...Until someone attempts to bring it back. 2Pac "dying" & Prince leaving WB signaled the true end. Say what you want about Pac, but 95% of the time, he always had good, funky music (with live instruments) behind his raps.
1997-present has really been a bunch of crap. Outkast should've really pushed harder after Speakerboxx/The Love Below, but unfortunately, ego happened. D'Angelo had a chance in the 00s, but we all know what happened. The Neptunes were arguably the hottest producers in the early-mid 00s, but even with that, couldn't get their own band N.E.R.D. true label support to save their lives (even though they had some great stuff on their albums).
Lenny got bored & started putting out less & less. Van Hunt never got any real support, even though he's great. Robert Randolph, same thing. No funk on the radio, only some of the most simple minded lyrics & music ever written/produced. Even rappers stopped SAMPLING funk. It's like funk was just totally erased out of people's vocabularies after 1996. After P. left WB, the mainstream just basically shut the doors on any artist remotely like him (U know, real instruments & bands, writing & producing everything.Big NO-NOs from then on if you wanted big-time radio/video play like he did in 82-95. As P. said himself, "they let a few on the field, but they never really get in the game".)
The 2000s music got worse every single year, award shows got worse every single year, labels folded & merged, leaving less opportunity for alternative-type artists to get heard/seen (besides the internet, of course), radio, etc. the list goes on & on. MTV,VH-1 & BET turned into Reality TV. No more Soul Train or It's Showtime At The Apollo. American Idol happened. Prince came back to the mainstream, but couldn't get played on the radio (& understandably, couldn't care less if he did.) Rappers can't rap anymore. AUTOTUNE & PRO-TOOLS/REASON got unescapable. No black bands in the mainstream, except for, arguably, the Roots & they turned into a house & backing band for other artists(They're still cool, though). MJ, Rick James & James Brown, all gone.
The 2000s have been a downward spiral, leading to the terrible generation that now runs the 2010s... I used to couldn't stand groups like BSB & N'Sync in the late 90s/early 00s, but hearing what's on the radio now, it actually makes "Backstreet's Back" sound like P-Funk (I swear I hear traces of my favorite song of all-time "(Not Just) Kneedeep" in there somewhere). . WTF? Something's REALLY going on...
Bottom Line: The 90s were hella better, 1990-96 to be exact...I really believe there was a true 30 year period of experimenting & classic music making in urban music (1966-1996). Nothing's come close to that in the urban mainstream since. [Edited 1/12/11 19:12pm] Exiles of the Nation
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That's funny, Vainandy, because I feel the same way over all about current music as you do...but I did listen to music actively in the 1990s, at least the first half of the decade, and there were quite a few songs that I liked... That was also when I bought my last Prince album for 15 years--Gold Experience--and I loved it. So, in answer to your question, I would have to say the 2000s have been the most barren decade for me as far as music goes...in this country anyway! "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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on top pf that, her greatest hits album is almost too good: just monster hits, no waste space, ridiculously consistent... that album is exhausting | |
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2000's, hands down. The 90's was the last decade to produce some absolute creative forces in a variety of genres. Last decade to even produce a variety of genres. [Edited 1/12/11 19:07pm] | |
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At least in the 1990's, the 90-93 era was THE best part of that whole decade for myself personal. New Jack Swing, Chicago House, hip-hop/rap and it's many sub-genres (especially political rap), Detriot Techno, hip-house, latin freestyle, & club dance were popular genres at the time. Of course, it would all slowly stated to go downhill beginning in 94, when the major labels started to put more focus on gangsta rap, which was the hip-hop/rap sub-genre that generated the most profit and abandoned the other sub-genres in the process. And the dance sub-genres were all rejected from FM radio formats as well. East-coast & west-coast hip-hop/rap would clash and burned, making room for dirty south hip-hop/rap to take over the mainstream radar for the rest of the 1990's. Metal in the USA was kick-off the mainstream radar by grunge. And hip-hip/rap in general (via hip-hop soul) would "killed" r&b/soul, resulted in the existence of hip-hop/r&b. The 97-99 era came an uprisng (or should I say the second coming?) of electronic dance music and all of it's sub-genres (mostly breakbeats, jungle/d&b, & techno) that tried but failed to compete against hip-hop on the mainstream level. But at least electronic rave culture was doing well on a underground level for a while.
As bad as the mid to late 1990's were, the 2000's were and still is THE all time worst decade for myself personally. The only thing 90% of this decade ever did was maintain everything that went wrong in the mid to late 1990's. There were a few bright sides, such as the uprise of French House, the surprise return of synthpop (mistaken label by the UK media as electrocrash), electro, & breakbeats. But all of these electronic sub-genres would get overshadow by overrated trance. Hip-hop/r&b still ruled on the now media corporate-owned FM radio formats, with sub-genres like crunk (remember that?!?) AND chopped & screwed (remember this too?!?) making the situation worse for hip-hop on any level. Boy & girl bands would come and go. And the only breakthrought artists that stood out by the late 2000's were nothing but clones of the real artists that once stood out in the 1980's.
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The 2000's.
Overall, I enjoyed the 90's far more. | |
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Disagree with you on the Illuminati stuff...but for the most part, I think you are right on the mark with this music assessment. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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that's harsh man. i liked JLP but after that she was very hit and miss.
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i agree with u 100%. the music of the "noughties" is terrible. the good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge ~ Bertrand Russel | |
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^^^^THIS!^^^^^ | |
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I find her incredibly annoying, especially her album titles- Jagged Little Pill, Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie, Under Rug Swept, etc. What's her next one going to be? Quote Unquote? Pseudo So-Called Indecisiveness? Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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The 1990's are way better. I used to keep saying the 00's are terrible, but there were hits and misses throughout, though I mostly stuck to buying albums from accomplished artists I already loved for years that were not getting credit.
I think the first half of the 90's is the best and the most exciting, but the second half is what I remember more vividly cause that's when I would play the radio in my leisure time and buy CD's like crazy and catch up on what I missed out on in the first half, though I did know stuff then too like some mj and madonna or if friends played some songs that were new. I love how diverse the 90's were too and you didn't have to sound a certain way just to sell records, nor did you have to sound alike to get attention, that is, until the boybands and britney dominated and had songs that kept sounding like each other cause their successful formula was bringing in the bucks. That pattern continued for the rest of the 00's and I hear it right now too.
There were so many likeable songs too in the 90's, full of memorable melodies and hooks, in different genres, and you can hum them. Though the 00's had that sometimes, hip hop buried the r&b and the quality wasn't the same and people sang different, wrote melodies differently etc. [Edited 1/13/11 3:48am] | |
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I've posted this before, but I'll post it again.
These are my bottom 100 songs of all-time. The 90s take up a huge chunk of the list.
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yeah with Glen Ballard, who wrote MJ's Man In The Mirror | |
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