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The 1990s or The 2000s....which era was the worst for you personally? Both the 1990s and the 2000s had the worst music in music history but I would say the 1990s was the worst for me personally. Yeah, I consider the music of the 2000s to be even worse than the music of 1990s but I see it as simply a continuation of the 1990s that never changed.
Radio of the early 1990s had some great moments during the short lived dance/house era while it was above ground and even when it went back underground to mainly the gay clubs, a few of the good songs did find their way to the radio every blue moon on out through the mid 1990s. However, the fact that some of the good songs made their way to radio every now and then is the reason it made the era so depressing for me because I actually listened to current radio in hopes of hearing something good. I was working in a convenience store back in those years (which was already depressing itself) and would have current radio playing while I was at work. Actually hearing hours and hours of horrible midtempo shit hop and adult contemporary and maybe one good fast jam that might come on after three hours of bullshit, really made the era even more depressing.
I also continued listening to current radio because from experience in the past, every decade, music styles would completely change such as the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s all getting complete makeovers once a new decade arrived. Once the 2000s arrived and midtempo shit hop and adult contemporary still continued to dominate R&B radio just like it did in the 1990s, I saw then that styles were never going to change especially when I learned that huge corporations owned multiple stations and also multiple record labels. Since I gave up hope that styles would change, I just stopped listening to radio that plays current music altogether and that made it a lot less depressing because I didn't actually have to hear the bullshit.
Does giving up hope and tuning out current radio mean you should just go with the flow, keep your mouth shut, accept it, and not bitch about it? Hell no. That's the reason you should bitch about it because it's not about "every generation feels that way when they get older" because that's not the case with me at all. It would be different if styles had changed to something soooo hard and fast that your old ass became so old that you couldn't shake it like you used to (which is the reason the other older generations tuned out of music or because of profanity which they didn't like, or because they became married with children and fell out of interest in partying) but it's exactly the opposite with me. I love profanity, I'm single, I ain't got no damn kids and don't want any, I can still shake it like I used to, and the party should go on just like it always has for decades before the 1990s came long. I can't help it if I remained young and wanted to continue moving forward while the actual younger generation inherited the slower, tamer tastes of their great grandparents who were around before the rock era changed things.
Anyway, totally eliminating all exposure to current music is the reason the 2000s seem better to me than the 1990s. Which era was worse for you and why? . . .
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2000s definitely. I have maybe 2 or 3 CDs from the decade. The music has been horrible. The 90s had some classic stuff. | |
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Clearly and by far to 2000s.
The 1990s were a bit different in Europe than in the US, I think. In Europe, we had all this Eurodance stuff (2unlimited, Snap, Culture Beat and so on), which was pretty trashy, but at least you could use it to have a party. Yeah, you could dance to that shit, even though it made ABBA appear to be as artistically complex as Bach. Plus in Europe, we had that strong Techno and Hardtrance era, with also lots of melodic stuff to dance to as well. The Loveparade was great back then.
However, I just can't dance to 2000s music. I've tried it, I've been to a club again a few years ago and just didn't want to dance to that shit. Actually, most people didn't really want to dance, they just drank and talked while the DJ played this crap. That was like a goddamn dinner party in the 1950s! In my favourite Techno club (which doesn't exist anymore, needless to say) in the 1990s, no one just drank and talked, people actually MOVED to that shit. When I came to the club, I usually had one or two drinks and then I danced until I became so thirsty that I needed another drink. In this 2000s club, I had to drink a lot to actually be willing to enter the dancefloor, and after one or two songs, I felt the urge to just pretend to be thirsty as hell from all this non-movement of my body so I could get back to the bar. Btw, nowadays they even managed to mess up Techno - and that means something!
And no, it's not a thing of being too old to understand what the young generation likes. People who grew up on 1970s music maybe didn't like the 1980s because of all the synthesizer stuff, which was new and the opposite of what they got in their youth. Nowadays, people who grew up on 1980s and early 1990s stuff dislike the 2000s stuff because it is just a bad rehash of what we alredy had in the 1990s.
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the 2000s have been worse, by a mile. By comparison, the 90s were a classic decade
It started REALLY strong: grunge (when it was good and had balls), good alternative rock, new/brutal sounds for heavy metal, the disappearance of hair-metal and hard-dance (at last), the evolution of the best hair bands into something better (Guns N'Roses, Skid Row, Bon Jovi, Mr.Big, etc.), West Coast rap, Ice Cube, Dr.Dre, Megadeth, Metallica & the black album, Prince & the NPG, Dangerous, Ozzy Osbourne's return to form (No More Tears), the golden era of Depeche Mode, good rave/freakouts/electronic music, Madonna's Sex controversy and Erotica, U2's Achtung Baby/Zooropa, the classic dance sound of the early-90s, a truckload of good singles (including dozens of great one-hit wonders), classic world tours, etc. Great, great years (90-93) and a lot of childhood memories
then came the mid-90s and that's when things turned slighty ugly: Mariah, Celine and other similar cheesy singers, the rise of nu-metal, the huge success of NBig & 2Pac, bad Europop, punk-pop "revival" (), an invasion of average brit bands (the best of the bunch were clearly Blur, Suede and Oasis, the rest meh), a lot of just plain ridiculous boy bands, like Boyzone or Take That (at least they had some good singles, I'll buy you that), The Spice Girls were fuckin' great, I admit that they were basically a guilty pleasure though...I remember the mid-90s as the time when I started to be more interested in movies/books than popular music...
and in some ways, the 00s started in 1998, with the rise of american teen-pop: BSB, 'NSYNC, Britney,etc. many average female singer/songwriters, awfully bad singles climbing high on the charts (Kiss Me, Living La Vida Loca), Brandy&Monica (an early example of faceless, boring, modern R&B), etc. Not everything sucked though: british electronic music (Basement Jaxx's Remedy is a fuckin' classic), Madonna's Ray of Light, Jamiroquai, Radiohead, Shania Twain, Daft Punk, early Robbie Williams, Bjork, Cher's Believe (the hymn of 1999), etc.
in conclusion: 90-93 was a GREAT-MARVELOUS era, and in fact, better than 88-89. The 94-97 era was just ok (55% crap, 45% good) and the 00s started in 1998 lol...
Of the 00s, I only like 2000-2001, and some albums of 2004, 2007 and 2008, and that's all. 2002 was bad, 2003 uneven, 2005 pathetic, 2006 a mixed bag, and 2009 good singles but bad albums. 2010 has been so insipid that I refuse to say anything else about it | |
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neither | |
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2000s | |
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the same happened to me, and I was only 19-24 during the 2002-2009 era...
I couldn't agree more, and we should add a distressing lack of quality in songcraft and well-constructed/catchy choruses...or good riffs... In the 00s, there are some good acts (perhaps future classics), but 90% has been crap, plain and simple. Worst decade since the 40s, and that's because there was a World War... | |
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00's of course.
I loved the 90's. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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2000's. | |
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This is a tough call for me because I don't think either decade was bad musically.
I was able to find some great albums in the 90s by the following:
Tori Amos PJ Harvey Björk Nine Inch Nails Janet Jackson etc.
And in the 2000s, I was able to find equally great albums by:
The White Stripes / The Raconteurs Goldfrapp PJ Harvey Alicia Keys Outkast etc.
If anything were to tip one decade in favor over the other, it would be the fact that the end of the 2000s saw me not care at all about what's on the Billboard charts anymore which back in the 80s and 90s is something I never thought would happen. Almost all the artists I really like now are indie/underground and don't make any big impressions on the charts that I used to follow so religiously when I was in school. So in that respect, I'd say the 2000s were worse than the 90s, but only slightly. | |
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That is true. | |
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Growing up we never relied on the radio to hear our favorite songs...because the songs my mom and dad used to play werent really singles or hits...so I was used to hearing the album cuts in full length all the time. Thus the 90's...in my opinion of the radio was better, however the songs in essence were a bit stronger than the 2000's...there were still alot of uptempo music in the early 90's..dropping off hard by 1996 though.
the 2000's actually was a calling card to the uptempo music scene though and 80's funk coming back into form. THIS is what I did like about the 2000's...was the fact that a mass amount of synth and linn drums were coming back in action..in a modern way...however still indeed better than alot of the music that came out in the mid 90's to late 90's...the 80's and 70's sounds were refreshing from the depressing 90's gangsta rap and adul contemporary takeover. People like Amy Winehouse, Dam-Funk, Private, Basement Jaxx, Daft Punk, Erykah Badu, Neptunes, and so many musicians right here on this website, not to mention tons on soundclick.com really bring good music to the table.
My vote:
2000's:
Internet underground funk and uptempo music to the fore. Slowly creeping its way back into mainstrem >>> grage band, boy babd gangsta rap 90's. [Edited 1/12/11 12:40pm] Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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2000..You cant even compare...when that calender hit the 2 triple zeros..music seriously went downhill. [Edited 1/12/11 12:41pm] | |
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Why? Well for one because I could actually listen to the radio non-stop in the 90's..I hardly do so in this era. | |
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How do you let the radio determine whats good for you to listen to? Have you always? Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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I agree,the 2000s suck.I didn't buy many CDs during the 2000s.The 90s had alot of crap but at least there was great stuff,especially in the first few years of that decade (1990-93). | |
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Well radio is supposed to introduce you to new music and new artists and also remind you of music from the past...At least that's why I listen..but I guess my point is in my opnion they were a lot of great artists that I was into and I could leave the radio on all day and hear classic joint after classic joint..whether it was Grunge, pop, rock,indie, hip-hop, the whole lillth fair craze, really good r&b e.t.c .There was kind of something for everyone.
The first few years of the new era had some good spots but as we got deeper into the era music just became cringe worthy for me....so I dont listen to the radio to see who's new...or what new music I should check out cause in recent years, I have lost interest and no artist has really captured my attention at all.
I dont maybe i'm biased because I was a teen in the 90's..a lot of songs were the soundtrack to my life...it's very nostalgic for me. | |
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2000s
90s = HipHop's finest hour.
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Completely agree with that and I should add early '90s house/dance music (and until the end of the decade dancefloor jams kept on coming to be honest although not as frequently as in the beginning) and indie music as well as Hip-Hop/R&B and the last years of New Jack Swing as the great things about the '90s. In comparison the '00s have been crap [Edited 1/12/11 13:12pm] | |
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co-sign. no matter how much crap was released in any decade, if i'm able to come out of it with a couple dozen of absolutely stellar albums, i couldn't care less.
in both the 90s and the 00s some of my favorit albums of all time were released, wether it be something 90s, like Tori's "From The Choirgirl Hotel", U2's "Achtung Baby" or something from the 00s like Windmill's "Puddle City Racing Lights" or Radiohead's "In Rainbows".
radio seems to have gotten predominately worse and worse since the 90s, having hit it's absolute low in about 2002 [and remaining there ever since]. but if you don't care about charts and never listen to radio, instead getting your music fix elsewhere, that doesn't have to have an impact on your enjoyment of a decade's music.
the 2010's will probably be absolutely shockingly horrible in regards to what will be the real big hits and supergroups/artists that we don't even know of yet. radio will no doubt become even worse and music tv, well, best not talk about that.
yet i'm also 500% sure that the 2010's will, once the dust has settled, leave me with another couple dozen of albums that i will listen to and treasure till well into my old age.
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Ugh, for me the '90s were clearly less sucky than the '00s but when I flashback to the crappy female singer/songwriter craze of the mid to late '90s that's almost enough to make me say the '90s were worse.
For me the thing that makes the '90s better was that at least there was a tiny bit of diversity. It seems like the last ten years hip hop and r & b completely dominated mainstream music.
I was a teenager in the '90s so I have a bit of a nostalgic connection to a lot of that music, even some of the really terrible stuff. | |
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From what I'm reading here, the majority of us seem to agree (myself included) that the first few years of the 1990s were much better than the rest of the 1990s. I'm wondering if that's because the beginning of each decade seems to bleed a little bit off the previous decade before the styles just completely progress and change altogether. For instance, the first few years of the early 1970s sounded slightly similar to the late 1960s before disco came in and completely changed the sound. Also, the first few years of the 1980s (on the R&B side, that is) you could still hear a little of disco's lingering influence until new wave entered the funk and also until Shitney came along and just damn near completely killed it altogether.
When the 1990s arrived, the dance/house music scene had already been underground for a few years in the late 1980s and when 1989 arrived, it came above ground onto mainstream radio and stayed there for a few years until it started tapering out of the mainstream around 1992 or so. And by the time 1995 or 1996 came along, there was absolutely nothing being played on the mainstream R&B stations other than slow to midtempo shit hop or adult contemporary. I didn't let it bother me at the time though because I figured when we reached 2000, we would have a completely different style change just like we always have. When it didn't change immediately, I thought, oh well, it takes one or two years of bleeding off the previous decade's influence before a style change occurs (judging by the past, that is). But hell's fire, it's 2010 now and still no damn style change! And just how fucking long do they intend to keep that rediculous ignorant thug image alive?!
I get so damn tired of people accusing me of being "stuck in the past" when I'm the one that wants things to progress and move on to something different. These motherfuckers these days want to stick with the same shit that has dominated since the mid 1990s. Sounds like they are the ones stuck in the past to me. . . . [Edited 1/12/11 14:53pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Id say the 90's mainly because most of the artists i listened too, didnt really have much output or if they did, it wasnt close to their best. A sample
Elton John: the 90's were his AC years and Disney stuff the 2000's he became the 1970's elton again
Prince: Very wishy washy, from least faves of Diamond And Pearls and slick Rb prodcution of Emancipation, and then Rave, it was a very weird decade for him.
a-ha My fave band only had one album in the 90's and it was just OK 1992's Memorial Beach recording at Paisley Park, after this the band took a hiatus till 2000 and TOOK OVER.
Now other things like the death of RB for the most part, mainly the live sound got sold off for midtempo shit. Every RB male was nothing more than some dude with an open shirt and a chain singing off key. Plus this was the decade of the collabo, which KILLED rb overall!
Some highlights in the 90's for me were Pearl Jam and REM doing kick ass albums along with John Mellencamp who for me was the artist of the 90's, best output!
The 2000's havent been great but i can say that i got alot of output from my fave artists and stellar stuff and here and there some new artists like Norah Jones to show there's hope.
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The 90's and 00's could never touch the 70' and 80's .... but saying that i feel US music hit the rocks in the 1990's ...to .... 2010's .... Eye Was Born & Raised On The Same Plantation In The United States Of The Red, White And Blue Eye Never Knew That Eye Was Different Til Dr. King Was On The Balcony
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The 1990s were much worse for me personally. Other than already-established favorites from the 80s, there weren't many artists who came around in the 90s that I loved.
The 2000s had a rather shitty mainstream scene (just like the 1990s), but through the internet, I discovered a TON of new artists that I loved. In fact, by the sheer number of albums that I enjoy from the decade, the 2000s rank second to me behind only the 1980s.
To put it in perspective, I can break down my top 500 albums as follows:
1960s: 14 1970s: 92 1980s: 173 1990s: 69 2000s: 132 2010s: 20
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i love the 90s and enjoyed music all the way up to the early 2000s | |
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The 1990's for me. Back then, I was really into the east coast hip hop scene and house music which really didn't get much play where I lived. I was exposed to it through college radio. I guess the fact that my teenage years were during this decade probably had something to do with it as well.
The 2000's........ One good thing about it is that I started to gain an appreciation for older music during this time because the music was awful. | |
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The '90s brought some great rock bands, an expansion of the capabilities of hip-hop, and the varied sonic palettes and mixing of styles of Bjork, Tori Amos, Tricky, Faith No More, Soundgarden, Lisa Germano, The Prodigy, Goldie, Nine Inch Nails, Spiritualized, Massive Attack..... Most significantly, it was the last decade where the music industry had the big money and confidence to speculate;will there ever again be bloaty-eyed A&R men waving chequebooks and offering small development deals around like happened subsequent to the success of grunge and britpop? In Seattle, this unearthed the professional careers of a plethora of great artists, but in the UK you mostly got a bunch of bands who weren't good enough to exist in their own right.
My vote goes squarely to the '90s, though I concur that it fell away in its second half.
The relationship of a decade artistically. with that preceding it, is always symbiotic: you get the alt.rock, doom-sludge, and hair-metal of the '80s(together with their 70s influences) that morph into grunge, it took Run-DMC and N.W.A to engender DrDre et al, acid house and rave leading to garage etc. | |
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