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Reply #60 posted 12/19/10 9:47pm

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trueiopian said:

She can't sing.

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Reply #61 posted 12/20/10 2:10am

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Essayvee said:

I think the only problem here is she lacks discipline in her voice, but the is potential to be as powerful as Christina

Discipline? She was born a shit singer. Case closed. and DEADDDDD at having any potential to be as powerful as Xtina. eek spit spit Not in this lifetime!

and she's not stronger than Janet. Ch, she's not even stronger than Ke$ha or Amerie.

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In Mickey Mouse Club auditions, she got the same score as Xtina for vocals.

She probably would have been a similar vocalist to Xtina if her label hadn't decided to make her the sexy one. They turned her image sexy and turned her voice into what they considered "sexy". Sad, but true.

That doesn't mean her old voice is gone, though. This is from 2007, just her voice and a piano.

Anyway, i think you're really inconsiderate of other people's opinions. Everyone is allowed to like whoever they want, get over yourself.

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Reply #62 posted 12/20/10 3:06am

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WHEN I WANT TO LISTEN TO A GREAT VOICE, I LISTEN TO THIS...

Lord, none of these other children mentioned in this thread are fit to shine her shoes. Donna Summer has an awesome voice.

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Reply #63 posted 12/21/10 9:05pm

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Christina Aguilera
Voice type: Spinto Soprano
Highest note: C7, G#6
Lowest note: C3, D3
Vocal range: 4 octaves (C3-C7)
Longest note: 20 seconds

Beyonce
Voice type: Full Soprano
Highest notes: D6 , E6, possible F6
Lowest notes: C3, D3
Vocal range: (approx) 3.5 octaves (C3-E6)

Janet Jackson
Voice type: Soubrette
Highest note: D6 (On He Doesn't Know I'm Alive), E6
Lowest note: E-b3
Vocal range: 3 octaves (Eb3-E6)

Britney Spears:
Voice type: Soubrette
Highest note: A5
Lowest note: E3
Vocal range: 2.5 octaves

lol Seriously, people need to do their research before comparing vocal abilities. If they don't have the same voice type AND vocal range, they won't ever sound alike no matter how much vocal coaching they get. Just enjoy Britney's catchy pop songs and flashy image and stop trying to sell her as a good singer because she isn't. When she was younger, she had a way better voice than she does now but even then it wasn't anything to brag about. If you want to see a child who can REALLY sing, watch videos of an 8-year old Shanice singing the hell out of 'Home' from 'The Wiz' and then tell me how great Britney's voice was a kid. Shanice would have mopped the floor with Britney and Christina...still can which is why it's so sad she has to lower herself to singing cover songs in her living room because she's not willing to walk around dressed like a damn hooker just to sell her music. Crazy how much people love a good gimmick and how so many people seem to like to buy music with their eyes...hilarious. But, hey, if her fans think the girl can sing, more power too them even though I think they should make appointments to see a hearing specialist as soon as possible.

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Reply #64 posted 12/21/10 11:09pm

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Janet is a mezzo-soprano bored2

http://divadevotee.blogsp...range.html

http://www.youtube.com/wa...r_embedded

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Reply #65 posted 12/21/10 11:30pm

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Reply #66 posted 12/22/10 1:12am

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Janet has a sweet voice. It's not strong by any means, but she can keep a tune and stay on pitch. Not so much when she's dancing (Escapade on the All For You tour was perhaps her worst), but she's been fine with ballads.

Britney is shaky and foul. Madonna is the funniest of them all when she's not using autotune:

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Reply #67 posted 12/22/10 4:12am

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Speaking of Madonna, Pharrell has worked with both Britney and Madonna (Britney numerous times). Pharrell said Madonna couldn't reach her notes so he told her off and bothered her about it until she cried. He's never said that about Britney, in fact the one thing her producers always say is that she doesn't need autotune like everyone thinks and is a one take kind of vocalist.

Obviously, if Pharrell was so open about not being impressed with Madonna's vocals, a statement that could've easily cost him his career, then why hasn't he spoken out about Britney in the same way? What does he have to lose?

The fact that so many of her producers feel the need to specifically defend her voice and her professionalism as a veteran vocalist, rather than the usual "Oh, she was nice and fun", tells me everything I already knew.

The media began planting the "Britney can't sing" seed as soon as she arrived on the scene because in the beginning, that's the only thing they could find to attack her for. Yes, she has a weak voice and minimal strength. She can still do more with what she has than most artists.

Not that anyone will, but listen to Amnesia then Everytime. Could Katy Perry or Madonna bring that versatility to their vocal performances?

The live performances in this thread are awful examples. One, playback is louder, the other she'd just finished TWO complicated performances in a row. To be surprised that a singer with an already weak voice cannot sing after/while dancing, is just dumb. You're not proving anything.

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Reply #68 posted 12/22/10 4:55am

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midiscover said:

One sucks the other doesn't. Simple. Britney isn't a known performer nor is she a good one. I never considered Janet a "belter" nor do I think she's a "powerhouse".

That's your opinion. Spears has millions of fans just like Janet. You need to seriously get out of her cooch sometimes and smell some fresh air. It will do you some good.

Britney is the blonde, carbon-copy version of Janet. And Janet can sing better. The end.

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Reply #69 posted 12/22/10 9:00am

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SEANMAN said:

musicjunky318 said:

That's your opinion. Spears has millions of fans just like Janet. You need to seriously get out of her cooch sometimes and smell some fresh air. It will do you some good.

Britney is the blonde, carbon-copy version of Janet. And Janet can sing better. The end.

That about sums it up. And why are people comparing Britney's voice to Madonna? Because they're both blondes? They sound nothing alike at all. They both have pitch issues but Madonna's voice has a better vibrato and she's shown a lot of versatility as a vocalist over the years. Just play Laugh To Keep from Crying, Dress You Up, Sooner or Later, Cry Baby, Ray of Light and Jump back to back. Britney has a nice tone but she sounds the same all the time.

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Reply #70 posted 12/22/10 3:36pm

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estelle81 said:

Christina Aguilera
Voice type: Spinto Soprano
Highest note: C7, G#6
Lowest note: C3, D3
Vocal range: 4 octaves (C3-C7)
Longest note: 20 seconds

Beyonce
Voice type: Full Soprano
Highest notes: D6 , E6, possible F6
Lowest notes: C3, D3
Vocal range: (approx) 3.5 octaves (C3-E6)

Janet Jackson
Voice type: Soubrette
Highest note: D6 (On He Doesn't Know I'm Alive), E6
Lowest note: E-b3
Vocal range: 3 octaves (Eb3-E6)

Britney Spears:
Voice type: Soubrette
Highest note: A5
Lowest note: E3
Vocal range: 2.5 octaves

lol Seriously, people need to do their research before comparing vocal abilities. If they don't have the same voice type AND vocal range, they won't ever sound alike no matter how much vocal coaching they get. Just enjoy Britney's catchy pop songs and flashy image and stop trying to sell her as a good singer because she isn't. When she was younger, she had a way better voice than she does now but even then it wasn't anything to brag about. If you want to see a child who can REALLY sing, watch videos of an 8-year old Shanice singing the hell out of 'Home' from 'The Wiz' and then tell me how great Britney's voice was a kid. Shanice would have mopped the floor with Britney and Christina...still can which is why it's so sad she has to lower herself to singing cover songs in her living room because she's not willing to walk around dressed like a damn hooker just to sell her music. Crazy how much people love a good gimmick and how so many people seem to like to buy music with their eyes...hilarious. But, hey, if her fans think the girl can sing, more power too them even though I think they should make appointments to see a hearing specialist as soon as possible.

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Shanice! Yes! She can SANG her BUTT off! I SALUTE her AMAZING vocal abilities!

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Reply #71 posted 12/22/10 3:43pm

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purplesweat said:

midiscover said:

Discipline? She was born a shit singer. Case closed. and DEADDDDD at having any potential to be as powerful as Xtina. eek spit spit Not in this lifetime!

and she's not stronger than Janet. Ch, she's not even stronger than Ke$ha or Amerie.

[Edited 12/19/10 18:56pm]

In Mickey Mouse Club auditions, she got the same score as Xtina for vocals.

She probably would have been a similar vocalist to Xtina if her label hadn't decided to make her the sexy one. They turned her image sexy and turned her voice into what they considered "sexy". Sad, but true.

That doesn't mean her old voice is gone, though. This is from 2007, just her voice and a piano.

Anyway, i think you're really inconsiderate of other people's opinions. Everyone is allowed to like whoever they want, get over yourself.

she can't sing, she doesn't have a voice, and that video proved NOTHING....

The fact that her record label turned her to a sexy image doesn't mean anything, you can be sexy and still have a voice, but britney doesn't have a voice in the first place....

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Reply #72 posted 12/22/10 4:05pm

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Britney had an OK voice as a child/teenager. It sure was stronger back then compared to now, but eventhough I thought she was decent when she younger, it sounded forced to me. No real natural ability there like Christina Aguilera. Listening to her sing even as a child you could tell this girl had some serious chops.

And yes Janet is a better singer than Britney any day. Janet may not have a huge range, but it's still wider than Britney's and her tone is lovely. She works with what she has. I love Janet's voice. Her voice is much more pleasing to my ears than Britney's.

Britney has no natural singing ability whatsoever. She just can't sing.

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Reply #73 posted 12/22/10 4:18pm

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Her voice is good enough to get the job done on plenty of great pop songs. Give me a limited vocalist with a great catalogue of tunes over a boring Pop Idol warbler any day.

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Reply #74 posted 12/22/10 4:34pm

trueiopian

purplesweat said:

She probably would have been a similar vocalist to Xtina if her label hadn't decided to make her the sexy one. They turned her image sexy and turned her voice into what they considered "sexy". Sad, but true.

eek falloff eek falloff

Wowwwwww.

Comparing Britney's voice to Christina's? Come on now. confused

Christina may have the tendency to scream a lot and lack control over her voice. But her voice is a gift. Britney just can't sing at all.

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Reply #75 posted 12/22/10 4:53pm

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midiscover said:

Janet is a mezzo-soprano bored2

http://divadevotee.blogsp...range.html

http://www.youtube.com/wa...r_embedded

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So she's absolutely not like Britney at all then because she's neither the same vocal type or vocal range as Ms. Spears. Case closed. I'd take Janet with a cold over Britney any day of the year. Plus, Janet's a 10 times better dancer than Britney has ever been. I've actually seen videos of both their concerts and know that Janet could mop the floor with Britney in a dance off.

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Sunrise: June 7, 1958
Sunset: April 21, 2016
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Reply #76 posted 12/22/10 4:55pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

tritoncin said:

WHEN I WANT TO LISTEN TO A GREAT VOICE, I LISTEN TO THIS...

Lord, none of these other children mentioned in this thread are fit to shine her shoes. Donna Summer has an awesome voice.

To put a legend like Donna Summer in the same sentence with Britney Spears is just blasphemy...shame on you. lol

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Sunrise: June 7, 1958
Sunset: April 21, 2016
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Reply #77 posted 12/23/10 1:19am

purplesweat

Cinnamon234 said:

Britney has no natural singing ability whatsoever. She just can't sing.

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Reply #78 posted 12/23/10 1:22am

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In my opinion her live performances are awful, she has no taste in fashion, and she needs 24/7 counseling and guidance. That being said I would be lying my ass off if I said I did not like her music. I buy every cd she puts out. MeisMe happens to love pop like this. Blackout was awesome. I dont think her voice is great but she knows how to pick some damn good writers. The circus tour was kinda better than her last shows. However why the hell are pop artist so damn obsessed with the circus. Madonna did that back in 93. Time to move ahead.

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Reply #79 posted 12/23/10 1:32am

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don't care for britney..shes a mess...now christina aguilera...THAT GIRL CAN BELT THOSE NOTES! she is great live too! i love xtina. wanna see her again live.

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Reply #80 posted 12/23/10 1:37am

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purplemookiebut said:

don't care for britney..shes a mess...now christina aguilera...THAT GIRL CAN BELT THOSE NOTES! she is great live too! i love xtina. wanna see her again live.

You'll be waiting. Floptina can barely sell a ticket.

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Reply #81 posted 12/23/10 2:15am

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purplemookiebut said:

don't care for britney..shes a mess...now christina aguilera...THAT GIRL CAN BELT THOSE NOTES! she is great live too! i love xtina. wanna see her again live.

Her voice is awful these days. I didn't hear one truly GREAT live performance from her during the Bionic era. Nothing like, say, Beautiful on Ellen in 2003. THAT was amazing. Her voice is done:

Not to mention she's rarely held the Candyman (or Beautiful, for that matter) big note live:

Lip synced at the MTV awards this yr:

And just generally failed all around at live performances of her own damn songs:

Britney's a mess? Who was it that had a failed album, comeback, tour, film and marriage this yr? Not Britney!

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Reply #82 posted 12/23/10 7:55am

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Sorry, y'all can hate on Xtina all you want, but the fact remains that, bad performances aside, the girl can SANG. Britney is a pop entertainer, and damned good at it. There's nothing wrong with that at all. She's patterened herself after Janet and Madonna and it's worked for her, but her voice is nasally at best for the most part. Xtina may have a lack of control over her vocal gifts, but she can sing her ass off, nonetheless.

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Reply #83 posted 12/23/10 9:08am

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purplesweat said:

Cinnamon234 said:

Britney has no natural singing ability whatsoever. She just can't sing.

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[Edited 12/23/10 1:20am]

what is that ?

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Reply #84 posted 12/23/10 10:30pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

purplesweat said:

[Edited 12/23/10 1:20am]

what is that ?

Lmao!

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Reply #85 posted 12/23/10 11:52pm

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not giving anyone the pleasure of watching those videos but i will say i saw her during the stripped tour and she was amazing. i loved burlesque too...so

lalala i cant hear you

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Reply #86 posted 12/24/10 12:04am

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Essayvee said:

I know she gets a lot of hate for the way she uses her voice, but she used to be a great singer. If you watch videos of her as a child right up until she signed with Jive, you can hear how powerful and soulful her voice was, it even shows in bits on her Baby one more time album (which i am the proud owner of). From a physiological point of view can she ever get that voice back fully?

I believe faint traces of it is still there http://www.youtube.com/wa...5KqubAnOYA

What voice? eek lol

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Reply #87 posted 12/24/10 12:21am

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Her voice is awful these days. I didn't hear one truly GREAT live performance from her during the Bionic era. Nothing like, say, Beautiful on Ellen in 2003. THAT was amazing. Her voice is done:

Wow. You're trying WAY too hard right now. It's one thing to come for Xtina's 'flop-ness' these days but to say her voice is 'awful' or 'done' is just pure stupidity. Now I'm not a fan of her voice and as a technical singer - she's lackluster. Especially, the fact that she sings from her throat and ALWAYS pulls her larynx really high so she strains a lot but that's for another thread. Despite that Xtina can still sing. She still has her voice.

I find it HI-LARIOUS that you would even have the audacity to laugh at her for lipping seeing as Britney lip syncs 100% of the time and she doesn't even bother to hide that she lips to the original CD recording of her songs. Poor that. Britney is just awful. No talent at all. Just image.

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Reply #88 posted 12/24/10 1:14am

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trueiopian said:

purplesweat said:

Her voice is awful these days. I didn't hear one truly GREAT live performance from her during the Bionic era. Nothing like, say, Beautiful on Ellen in 2003. THAT was amazing. Her voice is done:

Wow. You're trying WAY too hard right now. It's one thing to come for Xtina's 'flop-ness' these days but to say her voice is 'awful' or 'done' is just pure stupidity. Now I'm not a fan of her voice and as a technical singer - she's lackluster. Especially, the fact that she sings from her throat and ALWAYS pulls her larynx really high so she strains a lot but that's for another thread. Despite that Xtina can still sing. She still has her voice.

I find it HI-LARIOUS that you would even have the audacity to laugh at her for lipping seeing as Britney lip syncs 100% of the time and she doesn't even bother to hide that she lips to the original CD recording of her songs. Poor that. Britney is just awful. No talent at all. Just image.

Eh, her voice is so bland and boring to me. It's got one tone to it, which is what you described - throaty. Just dull and dreary. Her attempts at putting "emotion" or "sass" into her more upbeat songs just results in sounding like a cat dying. And now it seems whenever she tries to hit a note slightly higher than usual, she simply can't - which is proven in this video here and the ones I posted above.

The reason I posted her lip syncing is because people (and Christina herself) act like she is some sort of legendary entertainer who would never lip sync, never use auotune, writes all her own songs, is the ultimate #1 entertainer...blah blah blah when she's really just a basic version of Britney with Mariah-lite vocals being the only true thing going for her. Zzzzzz.

Now her vocals are seemingly fading, her image is a mess, she hasn't had a truly good song since Hurt which was 5 yrs ago, she has just one true classic (Beautiful) in a 10+ year career...seriously, what's so amazing about her anymore? Yes, you could say the same of Britney, too, go ahead. But don't act like Xtina is THAT much better because she's really, truly not.

Gaga is better than both of them right now. Gaga would be a much more accurate, relevant example.

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Reply #89 posted 12/24/10 1:19am

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Dsoul said:

Her voice is good enough to get the job done on plenty of great pop songs. Give me a limited vocalist with a great catalogue of tunes over a boring Pop Idol warbler any day.

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