Either way no matter what it is. I'll buy it cause i think it rock's she's still making records. But i would love to see her do some acoustic playing, some funk, even some more hip hop ala Bedtime Stories

COAD Was a good album! i liked it a lot it was fun, wasn't great but tons of fun. Hard Candy was eh only a few cuts i cared for but i won't lie i think it was cool she had a top 10 hit with 4 minutes behind around as long as her and still getting a big hit is very rare.

Same goes for Celebration i hated the song personally.. but still cool it made it to the top 20.

But i think it's that point in her career where it doesn't matter if she's making number 1 records she's had a ton. Hell even do a country album wasn't that what Music was supposed to be? but ended up being another dance record lol

Translation:

I have no ideas of my own,............. but can write a check and put my NAME on the front of the cd.

Graycap23 said:

Translation:

I have no ideas of my own,............. but can write a check and put my NAME on the front of the cd.

and here we go again; another Madonna thread, another Graycap23's rant...

for a person that doesn't give a rat ass about Madonna, you are CERTAINLY obsessed about her (negatively), which is ridiculous, pointless and absurd. If I don't give a damn about somebody, I'll just ignore him/her, right?

Translation: you're one boring, predictable, desperate hater.

[Edited 12/17/10 13:54pm]

Why would Lady Ga Ga lower herself to work with her?

Madonna might need this, Ga Ga certainly doesn't.

Marrk said:

Why would Lady Ga Ga lower herself to work with her?

Madonna might need this, Ga Ga certainly doesn't.

Really? the Hard Candy tour was one of the three most successful world tours of all time

Her (crappy) last album featured a top3 hit. Her 2005 album/tour (Confessions) was even more successful (overall)...

we're not talking about Prince , we're talking about Madonna. GaGa is clearly the heiress (and we still don't know if her new album will be strong or a flop), but Madonna still rules the land, make no mistake...

JoeTyler said:

Marrk said:

Why would Lady Ga Ga lower herself to work with her?

Madonna might need this, Ga Ga certainly doesn't.

Really? the Hard Candy tour was one of the three most successful world tours of all time

Her (crappy) last album featured a top3 hit. Her 2005 album/tour (Confessions) was even more successful (overall)...

we're not talking about Prince , we're talking about Madonna. GaGa is clearly the heiress (and we still don't know if her new album will be strong or a flop), but Madonna still rules the land, make no mistake...

How do you measure success? box office? She charges so much of course she's making bank. Adjust that take for inflation and i bet it's nowhere in the all time lists for tours. I bet the 'Who's That Girl' tour was actually more successful.

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[Edited 12/17/10 14:24pm]

Marrk said:

Why would Lady Ga Ga lower herself to work with her?

Madonna might need this, Ga Ga certainly doesn't.

Yeah Gaga doesn't, she can just continue ripping off Madonna without Madonna being involved (Ale-Alejandro, Alejandro, Alejandro lol)

JoeTyler said:

Graycap23 said:

Translation:

I have no ideas of my own,............. but can write a check and put my NAME on the front of the cd.

and here we go again; another Madonna thread, another Graycap23's rant...

for a person that doesn't give a rat ass about Madonna, you are CERTAINLY obsessed about her (negatively), which is ridiculous, pointless and absurd. If I don't give a damn about somebody, I'll just ignore him/her, right?

[Edited 12/17/10 13:54pm]

Translation II: Graycap is right...........but I'll CHANGE the subject.

[Edited 12/17/10 15:56pm]

I liked Hard Candy, but it was the first Madonna album where she looked at what was popular in the charts (Timberlake, Timberland, etc) and said "Hell, I'll just copy that"

...if M wants to stay at the top of the heap she needs to continue setting trends not following them. She needs to look at the underground dance scene again, see what's bubbling there...she went with trance in '98 (with Ray of Light) before it took off ....same again please!

DaveT said:

I liked Hard Candy, but it was the first Madonna album where she looked at what was popular in the charts (Timberlake, Timberland, etc) and said "Hell, I'll just copy that"

...if M wants to stay at the top of the heap she needs to continue setting trends not following them. She needs to look at the underground dance scene again, see what's bubbling there...she went with trance in '98 (with Ray of Light) before it took off ....same again please!

Quite wrong, when she supposedly "set trends", she was just actually looking at European trends, when ROL came out the British people blasted her for the same thing she got for Bedtime Stories & Hard Candy (the initial reviews weren't orgasmic about ROL). Initially she wanted to work with Robert Miles for ROL, who had 2 massive hits in Europe, called "Children" and "One & One", to me that exactly matches "looking at the charts and want to copy it".

Setting a trend is not a conscious thing and depends on the media and the public, Madonna set plenty of trends, they are just not related to the production of the music. Just because no other pop artist sounded like Music or American Life, those albums set ZERO trends, nobody started to copy Madonna, nobody ever worked with Mirwais for a pop album, "Music" was a hit because everyone wanted her to ditch the slow stuff that described most of her 90s output and at the time mindless dance-pop was at the peak again with Britney, BSB, Cher etc, while for Madonna it was a new version of "Everybody", "Into the Groove" or "Vogue".

Madonna will not be "top of the heap" anymore because she'll be 53 when the new music is out, the teens won't be switching their attentions to her only because a couple of fans will think her album is the best thing ever.

To the "haters", Madonna cannot produce a record of her own, she needs a certain sound to latch onto, she can write lyrics and melodies but that's all there is to it. I'm a fan and I have no problem in admitting that because to me it's about actually enjoying the music and not the elitism that "Madonna is above everyone else because she's Madonna, period" or "I hate artists who can't play 3 different instruments and share credits with others" and stuff like that. Same goes for those who don't seem to be able to accept that Madonna has always been commercial, but you had different expectations and views on the music scene when you were young.

Coming up with something "new" is quite impossible for a pop act in 2010, even if Madonna found someone who did not hit the charts yet, surely someone will be able to find them somewhere on the internet and claim something like "oh Madonna is so out of touch, she just randomly went to Myspace or YouTube and contacted the first person she found, XY musician on the online community has been known for AGES and his sound is DATED!!!".

Cerebus said:

Madonna gets MASSIVE amounts of cash from Live Nation for each album, which they then recoup through her extremely profitable tours. Believe that she will be releasing more full length albums.

Wouldn't bet on this. First of all, nobody knows the exact nature of the contract, since it was a shock to everyone that it does not include the ways of actually releasing music. Secondly, since now there's no record label here that ONLY cares about the record sales (since the ticket sales always went to someone else), LN won't be stressed to try to milk the most out of what's left in recorded music sales, they wouldn't even lose much money if Madonna just put 7 new songs on iTunes and then milked Australia and Asia to death with exorbitant ticket prices. Finally, Madonna herself said she wants to find a new way to release the music so if she wanted a regular full album on a CD, she would have just renewed with Warner and kept LN for the tours, but that's not the case. Of course all of this will make some fans pressed who won't be able to stomach comments from Rihanna/Gaga/Katy fans that "nobody cares about Madonna's music now".

LiveToTell86 said:

Cerebus said:

Madonna gets MASSIVE amounts of cash from Live Nation for each album, which they then recoup through her extremely profitable tours. Believe that she will be releasing more full length albums.

Wouldn't bet on this. First of all, nobody knows the exact nature of the contract, since it was a shock to everyone that it does not include the ways of actually releasing music. Secondly, since now there's no record label here that ONLY cares about the record sales (since the ticket sales always went to someone else), LN won't be stressed to try to milk the most out of what's left in recorded music sales, they wouldn't even lose much money if Madonna just put 7 new songs on iTunes and then milked Australia and Asia to death with exorbitant ticket prices. Finally, Madonna herself said she wants to find a new way to release the music so if she wanted a regular full album on a CD, she would have just renewed with Warner and kept LN for the tours, but that's not the case. Of course all of this will make some fans pressed who won't be able to stomach comments from Rihanna/Gaga/Katy fans that "nobody cares about Madonna's music now".

That's ridiculous, of course there will be a new album out... just wait and see...

SoulAlive said:

it's a shame that she rejected the song "Animal".I think it's one of her strongest songs of recent years.Some fans took that song and used it as the basis for a compilation of recent outtakes.

Artist: Madonna
Title Of Album: Animal
Year Of Release: 2010
Label: LiveNation Records
Genre: Pop
Total Time: 53 min 34 sec


Tracklist
---------
01. Triggering
02. Broken
03. Animal
04. Ring My Bell
05. If You Go Away
06. Land Of The Free
07. Superpop
08. It's So Cool
09. Latte
10. Keep The Trance
11. Infinity
12. Miss You
13. On & On (The Beat Goes)
14. Across The Sky
15. It's So Cool (Acousic Version)

Thanks for posting this. I didn't know about it. I like how it is sequenced and everything.

LiveToTell86 said:

Cerebus said:

Madonna gets MASSIVE amounts of cash from Live Nation for each album, which they then recoup through her extremely profitable tours. Believe that she will be releasing more full length albums.

Wouldn't bet on this. First of all, nobody knows the exact nature of the contract, since it was a shock to everyone that it does not include the ways of actually releasing music. Secondly, since now there's no record label here that ONLY cares about the record sales (since the ticket sales always went to someone else), LN won't be stressed to try to milk the most out of what's left in recorded music sales, they wouldn't even lose much money if Madonna just put 7 new songs on iTunes and then milked Australia and Asia to death with exorbitant ticket prices. Finally, Madonna herself said she wants to find a new way to release the music so if she wanted a regular full album on a CD, she would have just renewed with Warner and kept LN for the tours, but that's not the case. Of course all of this will make some fans pressed who won't be able to stomach comments from Rihanna/Gaga/Katy fans that "nobody cares about Madonna's music now".

It doesn't matter if anybody knows the exact amount or not. Madonna gets a MASSIVE amount of cash for releasing a new album. She has NEVER, EVER been a dumb business woman. There WILL BE a new full length album, probably no later than this time next year. And the label, LiveNation, DOES care about the album, because that's the excuse for Madonna to go on another massive tour.

Cerebus said:

LiveToTell86 said:

Wouldn't bet on this. First of all, nobody knows the exact nature of the contract, since it was a shock to everyone that it does not include the ways of actually releasing music. Secondly, since now there's no record label here that ONLY cares about the record sales (since the ticket sales always went to someone else), LN won't be stressed to try to milk the most out of what's left in recorded music sales, they wouldn't even lose much money if Madonna just put 7 new songs on iTunes and then milked Australia and Asia to death with exorbitant ticket prices. Finally, Madonna herself said she wants to find a new way to release the music so if she wanted a regular full album on a CD, she would have just renewed with Warner and kept LN for the tours, but that's not the case. Of course all of this will make some fans pressed who won't be able to stomach comments from Rihanna/Gaga/Katy fans that "nobody cares about Madonna's music now".

It doesn't matter if anybody knows the exact amount or not. Madonna gets a MASSIVE amount of cash for releasing a new album. She has NEVER, EVER been a dumb business woman. There WILL BE a new full length album, probably no later than this time next year. And the label, LiveNation, DOES care about the album, because that's the excuse for Madonna to go on another massive tour.

i believe WMG will be used as the distrubation compay

Pharrell confirms working with Madonna Again

Posted Today, 03:28 AM

Speaking from a Miami studio, Williams reels off an equally jam-packed calendar for 2011.

"I’ve just been all over the place from project to project. Right now I’m working on lil’ Neptunes music," he says. "And there’s another Despicable Me. We’ve also got some stuff going on with Madonna."

love the stuff he came up with on 'Hard Candy'.

Gunsnhalen said:

I just hope and pray she does another Ray of Light, Like A Prayer or American life type album.. hell even Erotica or Bedtime Stories!

I would love to see her be more experimental, and put out another great disc like Ray which she hasn't topped yet IMO

I also love American Life.. many will disagree but for me it's her 2nd best i love of it. Some of her best lyrical subject matter is on that album. I know people want the danceable stuff

But i want to see Madge do another Take A Bow, nothing Fails, Frozen, Promise To Try type track then another Into The Groove or Like A Virgin type track.

I'd like her to do an American Life style album that mixes the beats, melodies and acoustic stuff with some more meaty subject matter in the lyrics. But first, she's going to have to sit down and work on some lyrics. Some middle ground between the self-absorbed, preachy, arrogant lyrics of AL and the vapid inanity of HC would be nice. Thye've been sorely lacking lately.

mostly, I'd like her to work with some actual songwriters so that the songs actually have a tune you can hum along to. beats and repetitive production flourishes do not make a song.

errant said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I just hope and pray she does another Ray of Light, Like A Prayer or American life type album.. hell even Erotica or Bedtime Stories!

I would love to see her be more experimental, and put out another great disc like Ray which she hasn't topped yet IMO

I also love American Life.. many will disagree but for me it's her 2nd best i love of it. Some of her best lyrical subject matter is on that album. I know people want the danceable stuff

But i want to see Madge do another Take A Bow, nothing Fails, Frozen, Promise To Try type track then another Into The Groove or Like A Virgin type track.

I'd like her to do an American Life style album that mixes the beats, melodies and acoustic stuff with some more meaty subject matter in the lyrics. But first, she's going to have to sit down and work on some lyrics. Some middle ground between the self-absorbed, preachy, arrogant lyrics of AL and the vapid inanity of HC would be nice. Thye've been sorely lacking lately.

mostly, I'd like her to work with some actual songwriters so that the songs actually have a tune you can hum along to. beats and repetitive production flourishes do not make a song.

I totally agree with both of you. I know she likes to be involved in the club scene and people like danceable stuff, but she can always do that through remixes. But make the versions on the album more song-like.

Not too excited about Pharrell. I'm not a HC fan at all. Plus, she usually always works with different people on a new album so I don't see why she's repeating. But then he said he has some "stuff" going on with her. That could be anything, not necessarily a new record.

Graycap23 said:

JoeTyler said:

and here we go again; another Madonna thread, another Graycap23's rant...

for a person that doesn't give a rat ass about Madonna, you are CERTAINLY obsessed about her (negatively), which is ridiculous, pointless and absurd. If I don't give a damn about somebody, I'll just ignore him/her, right?

[Edited 12/17/10 13:54pm]

Translation II: Graycap is right...........but I'll CHANGE the subject.

You seem to be very one track minded musically. If it's not funk it's junk? How boring.

Glindathegood said:

errant said:

I'd like her to do an American Life style album that mixes the beats, melodies and acoustic stuff with some more meaty subject matter in the lyrics. But first, she's going to have to sit down and work on some lyrics. Some middle ground between the self-absorbed, preachy, arrogant lyrics of AL and the vapid inanity of HC would be nice. Thye've been sorely lacking lately.

mostly, I'd like her to work with some actual songwriters so that the songs actually have a tune you can hum along to. beats and repetitive production flourishes do not make a song.

I totally agree with both of you. I know she likes to be involved in the club scene and people like danceable stuff, but she can always do that through remixes. But make the versions on the album more song-like.

Not too excited about Pharrell. I'm not a HC fan at all. Plus, she usually always works with different people on a new album so I don't see why she's repeating. But then he said he has some "stuff" going on with her. That could be anything, not necessarily a new record.

always works with different people?

True Blue and Like A Prayer samer producers

Music and American Life same produce with the exception of the tracks WO did

ehuffnsd said:

Glindathegood said:

I totally agree with both of you. I know she likes to be involved in the club scene and people like danceable stuff, but she can always do that through remixes. But make the versions on the album more song-like.

Not too excited about Pharrell. I'm not a HC fan at all. Plus, she usually always works with different people on a new album so I don't see why she's repeating. But then he said he has some "stuff" going on with her. That could be anything, not necessarily a new record.

always works with different people?

True Blue and Like A Prayer samer producers

Music and American Life same produce with the exception of the tracks WO did

but she doesn't usually carry forward producers from her cash-in r&b albums. Nile Rogers, Dallas Austin, etc. HC was definitely one of those. she uses these albums as deck-clearing exercises and for a decent-sized hit when nothing else is really striking her fancy or she's coming off of some bad PR.

errant said:

ehuffnsd said:

always works with different people?

True Blue and Like A Prayer samer producers

Music and American Life same produce with the exception of the tracks WO did

but she doesn't usually carry forward producers from her cash-in r&b albums. Nile Rogers, Dallas Austin, etc. HC was definitely one of those. she uses these albums as deck-clearing exercises and for a decent-sized hit when nothing else is really striking her fancy or she's coming off of some bad PR.

really?

that's news to me. LAV was done more or less as WB told her to do it, they weren't ready to allow her to produce on her own.

What bad press did she get that needed a make over for HC? She had been working with Pharrell for about a year piror to the release of HC.

ehuffnsd said:

errant said:

but she doesn't usually carry forward producers from her cash-in r&b albums. Nile Rogers, Dallas Austin, etc. HC was definitely one of those. she uses these albums as deck-clearing exercises and for a decent-sized hit when nothing else is really striking her fancy or she's coming off of some bad PR.

really?

that's news to me. LAV was done more or less as WB told her to do it, they weren't ready to allow her to produce on her own.

What bad press did she get that needed a make over for HC? She had been working with Pharrell for about a year piror to the release of HC.

key word "or"

Tuls101 said:

Graycap23 said:

Translation II: Graycap is right...........but I'll CHANGE the subject.

You seem to be very one track minded musically. If it's not funk it's junk? How boring.

Really? Which one of these acts qualify as funk?

Annie Lennox

Peter Gabriel

Depeche Mode

Robin Thicke

Rihanna

...................just 2 name a few.

Graycap23 said:

Tuls101 said:

You seem to be very one track minded musically. If it's not funk it's junk? How boring.

Really? Which one of these acts qualify as funk?

Annie Lennox

Peter Gabriel

Depeche Mode

Robin Thicke

Rihanna

...................just 2 name a few.

Rihanna? seriously? seems odd considering your comment about Madonna here

Graycap23 said: