SoulAlive said:

Madonna Equals Elvis Records in the UK

Madonna’s Celebration debuts at #1 on UK Albums chart

Madonna’s UK number one albums:

Like A Virgin (1984)
True Blue (1986)
Like A Prayer (1989)
The Immaculate Collection (1990)
Evita (OST) (1996)
Ray Of Light (1998)
Music (2000)
American Life (2003)
Confessions On A Dance Floor (2005)
Hard Candy (2008)
Celebration (2009)

She also:

- Spent more weeks (29) at number one of the Official UK Album Chart than any other female solo artist.
- Had more UK number one singles (13) than any other female solo artist.
- Achieved the chart double (simultaneous number one album and single) more times (4) than any other female solo artist.
- Completed the highest grossing tour in history (her recent Sticky & Sweet tour) for a female artist

^ That's for GrayCap23, midiscover and nursev, I guess you're out of words now...

JoeTyler said:

SoulAlive said:

Madonna Equals Elvis Records in the UK

Madonna’s Celebration debuts at #1 on UK Albums chart

Madonna’s UK number one albums:

Like A Virgin (1984)
True Blue (1986)
Like A Prayer (1989)
The Immaculate Collection (1990)
Evita (OST) (1996)
Ray Of Light (1998)
Music (2000)
American Life (2003)
Confessions On A Dance Floor (2005)
Hard Candy (2008)
Celebration (2009)

She also:

- Spent more weeks (29) at number one of the Official UK Album Chart than any other female solo artist.
- Had more UK number one singles (13) than any other female solo artist.
- Achieved the chart double (simultaneous number one album and single) more times (4) than any other female solo artist.
- Completed the highest grossing tour in history (her recent Sticky & Sweet tour) for a female artist

^ That's for GrayCap23, midiscover and nursev, I guess you're out of words now...

As it relates 2 words and Madonna................I've been out of those since 1984.

Graycap23 said:

JoeTyler said:

^ That's for GrayCap23, midiscover and nursev, I guess you're out of words now...

As it relates 2 words and Madonna................I've been out of those since 1984.

so?

musicjunky318 said:

angel345 said:

Maybe I'm missing something here, but didn't Marvin used to go on his drunken binges, and beat up his father and wife? After the father got fed up, he said that he gave him life, and he's going to take it away, and shot him with his shotgun.

Yea. It was terrible what happened but you don't do that kind of stuff to your father, especially one from the old school. They'll shoot you. Not argue, they will literally shoot you.

Bang, bang

angel345 said:

musicjunky318 said:

Yea. It was terrible what happened but you don't do that kind of stuff to your father, especially one from the old school. They'll shoot you. Not argue, they will literally shoot you.

Bang, bang

Should've had his family help him then before it was too late. If they knew what was coming, you know. I still think his father's evil. Ugh I knew I shouldn't have brought him up.

SoulAlive said:

Madonna Equals Elvis Records in the UK

Madonna’s Celebration debuts at #1 on UK Albums chart

Madonna’s UK number one albums:

Like A Virgin (1984)
True Blue (1986)
Like A Prayer (1989)
The Immaculate Collection (1990)
Evita (OST) (1996)
Ray Of Light (1998)
Music (2000)
American Life (2003)
Confessions On A Dance Floor (2005)
Hard Candy (2008)
Celebration (2009)

She also:

- Spent more weeks (29) at number one of the Official UK Album Chart than any other female solo artist.
- Had more UK number one singles (13) than any other female solo artist.
- Achieved the chart double (simultaneous number one album and single) more times (4) than any other female solo artist.
- Completed the highest grossing tour in history (her recent Sticky & Sweet tour) for a female artist

I don't think this is surprising. Chart records are actually easy to break.

JoeTyler said:

Graycap23 said:

As it relates 2 words and Madonna................I've been out of those since 1984.

so?

So now u KNOW. I don't give a rat's azz about madonna.

Timmy84 said:

SoulAlive said:

Madonna Equals Elvis Records in the UK

I don't think this is surprising. Chart records are actually easy to break.

yes, we saw the cast of Glee break a record by the Beatles, but I don't think their versions of other people's most popular songs are going to make them timeless legends in music

In some ways, chart records are like sports records. Record holders are not necessarily the greatest (though it can be an indicator, of course)

NDRU said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't think this is surprising. Chart records are actually easy to break.

yes, we saw the cast of Glee break a record by the Beatles, but I don't think their versions of other people's most popular songs are going to make them timeless legends in music

In some ways, chart records are like sports records. Record holders are not necessarily the greatest (though it can be an indicator, of course)

Timmy84 said:

SoulAlive said:

Madonna Equals Elvis Records in the UK

Madonna’s Celebration debuts at #1 on UK Albums chart

Madonna’s UK number one albums:

Like A Virgin (1984)
True Blue (1986)
Like A Prayer (1989)
The Immaculate Collection (1990)
Evita (OST) (1996)
Ray Of Light (1998)
Music (2000)
American Life (2003)
Confessions On A Dance Floor (2005)
Hard Candy (2008)
Celebration (2009)

She also:

- Spent more weeks (29) at number one of the Official UK Album Chart than any other female solo artist.
- Had more UK number one singles (13) than any other female solo artist.
- Achieved the chart double (simultaneous number one album and single) more times (4) than any other female solo artist.
- Completed the highest grossing tour in history (her recent Sticky & Sweet tour) for a female artist

I don't think this is surprising. Chart records are actually easy to break.

I really just posted this because of the cool picture of the two of them on top of a wedding cake

SoulAlive said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't think this is surprising. Chart records are actually easy to break.

I really just posted this because of the cool picture of the two of them on top of a wedding cake

Graycap23 said:

Only in the mind of a fool.

Nevertheless even though i'm no fan it would be foolish to say

she hasn't made an impact on pop music.

Bigger than Elvis hell no.

phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

Only in the mind of a fool.

Nevertheless even though i'm no fan it would be foolish to say

she hasn't made an impact on pop music.

Bigger than Elvis hell no.

My ONLY point.

Since Elvis became the first worldwide Superstar with a capital S/entertainer I don't think any artist will ever become more iconic than Elvis.

Timmy84 said:

angel345 said:

Bang, bang

Should've had his family help him then before it was too late. If they knew what was coming, you know. I still think his father's evil. Ugh I knew I shouldn't have brought him up.

First, she has to get fat, take lots of pills and eat mounds of bacon.

midiscover said:

No and she won't be as big of a historical figure as MJ. Some of you are giving her way too much to even name her with the ranks of Elvis, The Beatles and MJ.

uh oh the Jan Stan is getting defensive !!!

Just playin i love Janet and Madonna equally.

I remember when Ricky Martin won some pop award and thanked the "heroes of pop...Elvis, The Beatles, MJ and Madonna"

if there's any girl who belongs in that boys club, it's Madonna...

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2freaky4church1 said:

First, she has to get fat, take lots of pills and eat mounds of bacon.

...dipped in gravy and butter. Not to mention shooting her TV, getting the president to appoint her drug czar, pretend to be a cop and pull people over. Damn, Elvis was out of control.

uPtoWnNY said:

2freaky4church1 said:

First, she has to get fat, take lots of pills and eat mounds of bacon.

...dipped in gravy and butter. Not to mention shooting her TV, getting the president to appoint her drug czar, pretend to be a cop and pull people over. Damn, Elvis was out of control.

That's what I was saying earlier....Madonna may never become the type of historical figure that Elvis and Michael Jackson were,but she also won't self-destruct the way they did.She's 52 and we never hear about her having drug problems,getting in trouble with the law,etc.

SoulAlive said:

uPtoWnNY said:

...dipped in gravy and butter. Not to mention shooting her TV, getting the president to appoint her drug czar, pretend to be a cop and pull people over. Damn, Elvis was out of control.

That's what I was saying earlier....Madonna may never become the type of historical figure that Elvis and Michael Jackson were,but she also won't self-destruct the way they did.She's 52 and we never hear about her having drug problems,getting in trouble with the law,etc.

Well, I think the 89-93 (and 84) years were pretty controversial, but since 1994 she has been a saint lol , that's why I was so disappointed with the American Life (video) controversy: while the entire (almost) US population was screaming for war, war war! she actually said something against it, but in the end she just chickened out... I guess she understood that she was entering a truly dangerous/slippery territory, but I can't help thinking that she had the chance (in 2003) to be as transgressional as, I don't know, as Lennon in the early 70s? maybe; but she just gave up...can't blame her, though...

JoeTyler said:

SoulAlive said:

That's what I was saying earlier....Madonna may never become the type of historical figure that Elvis and Michael Jackson were,but she also won't self-destruct the way they did.She's 52 and we never hear about her having drug problems,getting in trouble with the law,etc.

Well, I think the 89-93 (and 84) years were pretty controversial, but since 1994 she has been a saint lol , that's why I was so disappointed with the American Life (video) controversy: while the entire (almost) US population was screaming for war, war war! she actually said something against it, but in the end she just chickened out... I guess she understood that she was entering a truly dangerous/slippery territory, but I can't help thinking that she had the chance (in 2003) to be as transgressional as, I don't know, as Lennon in the early 70s? maybe; but she just gave up...can't blame her, though...

I understood her reasons for pulling the video,but I really wish she had released it.Can you imagine the profound statement that video would have made? A missed opportunity.

Will Madonna Be A Bigger Historical Figure Than Elvis?

my answer is yes.

badujunkie said:

I remember when Ricky Martin won some pop award and thanked the "heroes of pop...Elvis, The Beatles, MJ and Madonna"

Whitney Houston called Bobby Brown the "Original King of Soul" but that does not make it so!

NDRU said:

badujunkie said:

I remember when Ricky Martin won some pop award and thanked the "heroes of pop...Elvis, The Beatles, MJ and Madonna"

Whitney Houston called Bobby Brown the "Original King of Soul" but that does not make it so!

You mean R&B.

But yeah that was one of the first signs that Whitney was on, as Adele Givens put it eloquently, "on those oodles and noodles BUT she may have sprinkled a little something in hers."

Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:

Whitney Houston called Bobby Brown the "Original King of Soul" but that does not make it so!

You mean R&B.

But yeah that was one of the first signs that Whitney was on, as Adele Givens put it eloquently, "on those oodles and noodles BUT she may have sprinkled a little something in hers."

right, king of R&B! No offence to Ricky, but he does not write the official history books either IMO

Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:

She's a pretty big figure, maybe a bigger worldwide celebrity, but did she create a sensation like he did? She did not sell as many records or make as many movies.

I am also trying to rememeber any single moment of hers that us burned into my brain as part of eternal pop culture, and I can't really think of any. I have a lot of memories of her, but none of them are particularly classic, defining moments.

Exactly plus the times Elvis came on the scene and Madonna's were quite different. Elvis came at a time when America was basically apple pies and bright white teeth. Elvis had a lot of things against him in the media when he first came out.

Madonna could never be seen in the same way.

There's much revisionist history when it comes to Elvis, the USA, and the life and times of that era. I'll leave it at that . . .

These types of pronouncements in my opinion are purely subjective; I don't consider

Elvis or Mandonna to be "historical figures" by any stretch of the imagination but others do. It takes all kinds.

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

Exactly plus the times Elvis came on the scene and Madonna's were quite different. Elvis came at a time when America was basically apple pies and bright white teeth. Elvis had a lot of things against him in the media when he first came out.

Madonna could never be seen in the same way.

There's much revisionist history when it comes to Elvis, the USA, and the life and times of that era. I'll leave it at that . . .

These types of pronouncements in my opinion are purely subjective; I don't consider

Elvis or Mandonna to be "historical figures" by any stretch of the imagination but others do. It takes all kinds.

It doesn't actually matter if Elvis invented rock & roll or did anything important (in terms of this question) it only matters if history remembers him, and so far it does

Columbus didn't actually discover America but he is still historical.

NDRU said:

TD3 said:

There's much revisionist history when it comes to Elvis, the USA, and the life and times of that era. I'll leave it at that . . .

These types of pronouncements in my opinion are purely subjective; I don't consider

Elvis or Mandonna to be "historical figures" by any stretch of the imagination but others do. It takes all kinds.

It doesn't actually matter if Elvis invented rock & roll or did anything important (in terms of this question) it only matters if history remembers him, and so far it does

Columbus didn't actually discover America but he is still historical.

Yeah lol plus even Elvis discredited those "invented rock" bullshit. He often called Fats Domino, Chuck Berry and Little Richard the real inventors.

NDRU said:

TD3 said:

There's much revisionist history when it comes to Elvis, the USA, and the life and times of that era. I'll leave it at that . . .

These types of pronouncements in my opinion are purely subjective; I don't consider

Elvis or Mandonna to be "historical figures" by any stretch of the imagination but others do. It takes all kinds.

It doesn't actually matter if Elvis invented rock & roll or did anything important (in terms of this question) it only matters if history remembers him, and so far it does

Columbus didn't actually discover America but he is still historical.

No, he was the crazy badass that crossed the Atlantic for the very first time (or at least, he did the longest route at that time, if we accept that the Scandinavian people traveled from Iceland to North America in the XIth century...)

Columbus is like the Robert Johnson of blues-rock guitarists...a nearly mythical figure who created the whole genre...

I just love of deliciously random, yet worthy, this thread is

Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:

It doesn't actually matter if Elvis invented rock & roll or did anything important (in terms of this question) it only matters if history remembers him, and so far it does

Columbus didn't actually discover America but he is still historical.

Yeah lol plus even Elvis discredited those "invented rock" bullshit. He often called Fats Domino, Chuck Berry and Little Richard the real inventors.

It's not even about that, it's about the hostility Elvis encountered because of the type of music he was singing.