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Reply #30 posted 11/17/10 3:09am

BlaqueKnight

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JoeTyler said:

Let's say that he did to hard-rock what Chuck Berry did to RockN'Roll...

if we're talking about groundbreaking rock guitarists, you have to mention:

Chuck Berry

Carl Perkins

Keith Richards

Jimi Hendrix

Eric Clapton

Carlos Santana

Jeff Beck

Tommy Iommi

Jimmy Page

Joe Perry

Eddie Van Halen

or even Prince

after that, well...just copycats, really...

oh, and I still think The Beatles is the band every other pop/rock artist/band is measured by...

...Sly, Stevie, Parliament/Funkadelic (or even Prince) for R&B/Funk...

Come on Joe. You throw "Prince" in there as a groundbreaking guitarist? I could see if you went avant-garde with someone like Greg Howe, Frank Zappa or John Mcglauhlin but you know damn well Prince ain't broke no ground in guitar playing. Come on. Let's keep it real, here.

[Edited 11/16/10 19:13pm]

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Reply #31 posted 11/17/10 7:34am

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On the org, yes. You get to thumb your nose at any other recording artist if you show that you also like Hendrix.

falloff That's true. I've always found it hard to criticize the posts of anyone who has Hendrix as an avatar. It's like I see them as automatically smarter than me.

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Reply #32 posted 11/17/10 10:24am

Dewrede

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^

and rightfully so razz lol

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Reply #33 posted 11/17/10 2:47pm

Jboogiee

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In guitarist's terms yes & yes!
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Reply #34 posted 11/17/10 11:02pm

Se7en

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BlaqueKnight said:

JoeTyler said:

Let's say that he did to hard-rock what Chuck Berry did to RockN'Roll...

if we're talking about groundbreaking rock guitarists, you have to mention:

Chuck Berry

Carl Perkins

Keith Richards

Jimi Hendrix

Eric Clapton

Carlos Santana

Jeff Beck

Tommy Iommi

Jimmy Page

Joe Perry

Eddie Van Halen

or even Prince

after that, well...just copycats, really...

oh, and I still think The Beatles is the band every other pop/rock artist/band is measured by...

...Sly, Stevie, Parliament/Funkadelic (or even Prince) for R&B/Funk...

Come on Joe. You throw "Prince" in there as a groundbreaking guitarist? I could see if you went avant-garde with someone like Greg Howe, Frank Zappa or John Mcglauhlin but you know damn well Prince ain't broke no ground in guitar playing. Come on. Let's keep it real, here.

[Edited 11/16/10 19:13pm]

^^ Prince is an excelllent guitarist, both technically proficient and soulful . . . but this post is correct, Prince hasn't broken any new ground.

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Reply #35 posted 11/18/10 4:08pm

JoeTyler

BlaqueKnight said:

JoeTyler said:

Let's say that he did to hard-rock what Chuck Berry did to RockN'Roll...

if we're talking about groundbreaking rock guitarists, you have to mention:

Chuck Berry

Carl Perkins

Keith Richards

Jimi Hendrix

Eric Clapton

Carlos Santana

Jeff Beck

Tommy Iommi

Jimmy Page

Joe Perry

Eddie Van Halen

or even Prince

after that, well...just copycats, really...

oh, and I still think The Beatles is the band every other pop/rock artist/band is measured by...

...Sly, Stevie, Parliament/Funkadelic (or even Prince) for R&B/Funk...

Come on Joe. You throw "Prince" in there as a groundbreaking guitarist? I could see if you went avant-garde with someone like Greg Howe, Frank Zappa or John Mcglauhlin but you know damn well Prince ain't broke no ground in guitar playing. Come on. Let's keep it real, here.

[Edited 11/16/10 19:13pm]

well, I still think that Prince was the first guy who mixed funk with hard-rock...and you know it...

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Reply #36 posted 11/18/10 9:05pm

Timmy84

^ Actually that was Eddie Hazel and Michael Hampton of Funkadelic and Ernie Isley of the Isley Brothers.

[Edited 11/18/10 13:05pm]

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Reply #37 posted 11/18/10 9:14pm

Cerebus

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Hendrix did things with a guitar that nobody else has done since and he did them with ease, often unexpectedly. Things that most of the other guitarists mentioned on this thread have commented on (and still do when asked). But to me that just makes him a great, inspiring, individual musician - not an artist to be measured by or against. Because Jimi was wholly his own thing.

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Reply #38 posted 11/18/10 9:15pm

Timmy84

Cerebus said:

Hendrix did things with a guitar that nobody else has done since and he did them with ease, often unexpectedly. Things that most of the other guitarists mentioned on this thread have commented on (and still do when asked). But to me that just makes him a great, inspiring, individual musician - not an artist to be measured by or against. Because Jimi was wholly his own thing.

I think all the guys that began to become popular with rock guitar were all the younger musical brothers/sons of him. nod

Especially Ernie Isley, since Hendrix once lived under the same roof as him when he was struggling to make it.

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Reply #39 posted 11/18/10 11:10pm

JoeTyler

Timmy84 said:

^ Actually that was Eddie Hazel and Michael Hampton of Funkadelic and Ernie Isley of the Isley Brothers.

[Edited 11/18/10 13:05pm]

I know what you mean, but I was talking about the extreme funk/rock sound of America, Computer Blue, the coda of Private Joy, or the Eddie Van Halen-like solo of Lady Cab Driver...

cool

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Reply #40 posted 11/19/10 4:13am

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MajesticOne89 said:

Are you so sure we even got to hear Hendrix in his prime? I mean, it's not like he has a vast discography, are you experienced axis and ladyland were his first 3 albums! Can you imagine if Prince had passed away after Dirty Mind? Not really much of a legacy. He never got the chance to develop like Prince did and with all the great music the came out in the '70s I could have definitely seen him still ahead of the pack.

You forgot Band Of Gypsies which showed the new director Jimi was heading.

Anyway, Jimi left tons of live work to judge from too. Many bands from the mid 60s are primarily judged by their studio work, but Jimi is judged by BOTH live and studio so in a way you have a much fuller picture of him as an artist of that era compared to say The Beatles or Stones.

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Reply #41 posted 11/20/10 11:44pm

Timmy84

brooksie said:

MajesticOne89 said:

Are you so sure we even got to hear Hendrix in his prime? I mean, it's not like he has a vast discography, are you experienced axis and ladyland were his first 3 albums! Can you imagine if Prince had passed away after Dirty Mind? Not really much of a legacy. He never got the chance to develop like Prince did and with all the great music the came out in the '70s I could have definitely seen him still ahead of the pack.

You forgot Band Of Gypsies which showed the new director Jimi was heading.

Anyway, Jimi left tons of live work to judge from too. Many bands from the mid 60s are primarily judged by their studio work, but Jimi is judged by BOTH live and studio so in a way you have a much fuller picture of him as an artist of that era compared to say The Beatles or Stones.

[Edited 11/18/10 20:18pm]

nod

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Reply #42 posted 11/20/10 11:44pm

Timmy84

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

^ Actually that was Eddie Hazel and Michael Hampton of Funkadelic and Ernie Isley of the Isley Brothers.

[Edited 11/18/10 13:05pm]

I know what you mean, but I was talking about the extreme funk/rock sound of America, Computer Blue, the coda of Private Joy, or the Eddie Van Halen-like solo of Lady Cab Driver...

cool

Yeah I get what you're getting at.

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Reply #43 posted 11/21/10 6:13am

nursev

Jboogiee said:

In guitarist's terms yes & yes!

agreed, but other than that No lol

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