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Reply #180 posted 11/05/10 8:33pm

Shawnt27

Is that Optimus Prime singing on the track with Robin Thicke??

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Reply #181 posted 11/05/10 8:41pm

Cerebus

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Timmy84 said:

Cerebus said:

Dude, are you serious? Report it? lol It was a joke.

I was joking too. lol

lol

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Reply #182 posted 11/05/10 8:42pm

EmbattledWarri
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Never liked the song before, But this is horrible...

but then again it's by T-Pain... so is this really surprising?

and is Q getting senile?

I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #183 posted 11/05/10 8:45pm

Timmy84

EmbattledWarrior said:

Never liked the song before, But this is horrible...

but then again it's by T-Pain... so is this really surprising?

and is Q getting senile?

Not "getting", he IS lol


Not ALL older folks get senile at Q's age but he sure has signs of such.

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Reply #184 posted 11/05/10 9:48pm

Superstition

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I actually like T-Pain, and Robin Thicke. But this remix. Let's just say I'll be buying the new Q album, but it definitely won't be for this track.

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Reply #185 posted 11/06/10 10:46am

legendofnothin
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I can't do it. I won't. I refuse to press play. I'll take all ya words for it... that it's Blasphemous Trash!

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Reply #186 posted 11/06/10 11:42am

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You guys can't blame Quincy. He didn't know T-Pain would be on it, he just got a call that a Hip-Hop cover of the song wanted to be done and he gave it the okay.

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Reply #187 posted 11/06/10 11:59am

Timmy84

LayzieKrayzie said:

You guys can't blame Quincy. He didn't know T-Pain would be on it, he just got a call that a Hip-Hop cover of the song wanted to be done and he gave it the okay.

He allowed it. lol shrug

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Reply #188 posted 11/06/10 12:00pm

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LayzieKrayzie said:

You guys can't blame Quincy. He didn't know T-Pain would be on it, he just got a call that a Hip-Hop cover of the song wanted to be done and he gave it the okay.

Then what gives him the right to have an album with his name or face on it? Makes me doubt the extent of his involvement in his successful projects like The Dude.

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Reply #189 posted 11/06/10 12:07pm

Timmy84

Ellie said:

LayzieKrayzie said:

You guys can't blame Quincy. He didn't know T-Pain would be on it, he just got a call that a Hip-Hop cover of the song wanted to be done and he gave it the okay.

Then what gives him the right to have an album with his name or face on it? Makes me doubt the extent of his involvement in his successful projects like The Dude.

Exactly! lol

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Reply #190 posted 11/06/10 12:20pm

Ellie

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Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks so. Why should he be the only one to have it both ways? Get all the glory when something is a hit, but be able to distance yourself when it's a piece of shit?

If it's a tribute album then leave it at that and stop inserting your name and image on it. Somehow he gets credited as a "performer" on all of these albums. As much as Andrew Ridgeley was a part of Wham maybe.

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Reply #191 posted 11/06/10 12:24pm

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Timmy...you did a great job in this thread my friend falloff

The senile ape is determined to destroy his legacy....let him do it

MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
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Reply #192 posted 11/06/10 12:29pm

Timmy84

Ellie said:

Glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks so. Why should he be the only one to have it both ways? Get all the glory when something is a hit, but be able to distance yourself when it's a piece of shit?

If it's a tribute album then leave it at that and stop inserting your name and image on it. Somehow he gets credited as a "performer" on all of these albums. As much as Andrew Ridgeley was a part of Wham maybe.

That used to always disturb me as a kid reading the name of the song and seeing just his name on it. But I knew better. Quincy can't sing but yet he took all the glory from folks like James Ingram and Patti Austin. Quincy was the first producer to want to be in the spotlight as "his own artist" yet he didn't really go that route that Puffy and Timbaland and them did. And it's one thing to take credit and then when the album gets criticized back off on it. It does make you wonder about what he actually contributed.

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Reply #193 posted 11/06/10 12:30pm

Timmy84

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy...you did a great job in this thread my friend falloff

The senile ape is determined to destroy his legacy....let him do it

nod

I think Quincy don't even know where he's at and if he does, he sure is acting like a pompous ass about it. lol

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Reply #194 posted 11/06/10 8:15pm

inia

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In a sense, I ain't mad at cha Quincy Jones. You're destroying your own legacy and showing your true colors. None of that can touch MJ's legacy.

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Reply #195 posted 11/06/10 11:38pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #196 posted 11/07/10 12:11am

RipTheJacker

this is what's happening to Quincy's legacy

as shown by this individual

[img:$uid]http://www.gifs.../img:$uid] GIFSoup

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Reply #197 posted 11/07/10 12:23am

angel345

inia said:

In a sense, I ain't mad at cha Quincy Jones. You're destroying your own legacy and showing your true colors. None of that can touch MJ's legacy.

Just 'play dead'. You'll know who your true friends are.

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Reply #198 posted 11/07/10 12:42am

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RipTheJacker said:

this is what's happening to Quincy's legacy

as shown by this individual

[img:$uid]http://www.gifs.../img:$uid] GIFSoup

Which would make T-Pain the Joker....

Close but no ciggy!

I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #199 posted 11/07/10 7:20am

Cinnie

The beat sounds soft as baby schitt.

If T-Pain is gonna sound like a robot for the whole song, the beat better jam like Daft Punks or suh'n.

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Reply #200 posted 11/08/10 5:09am

SoulAlive

RipTheJacker said:

this is what's happening to Quincy's legacy

as shown by this individual

[img:$uid]http://www.gifs.../img:$uid] GIFSoup

lol

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Reply #201 posted 11/08/10 5:11am

Harlepolis

bboy87 said:

[img:$uid]http://i54.tinypic.com/20i6w0l.jpg[/img:$uid]

spit OMG, I just hollered so loud falloff

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Reply #202 posted 11/08/10 7:04am

uPtoWnNY

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You guys are seriously cracking me up!!

You should read the comments at YouTube. They're a lot rougher than ours. smile

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Reply #203 posted 11/08/10 10:04am

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Ellie said:

LayzieKrayzie said:

You guys can't blame Quincy. He didn't know T-Pain would be on it, he just got a call that a Hip-Hop cover of the song wanted to be done and he gave it the okay.

Then what gives him the right to have an album with his name or face on it? Makes me doubt the extent of his involvement in his successful projects like The Dude.

I like Quincy JOnes's music,and it's hard to deny his involvement in a huge number of successful projects, from MIles to Frank to Michael to his own stuff.

But there has long been a question in my mind of what he actually does

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Reply #204 posted 11/08/10 10:37am

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Cinnie said:

The beat sounds soft as baby schitt.

If T-Pain is gonna sound like a robot for the whole song, the beat better jam like Daft Punks or suh'n.

the song is still terrible.

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Reply #205 posted 11/08/10 8:27pm

Cinnie

PoppyBros said:

Cinnie said:

The beat sounds soft as baby schitt.

If T-Pain is gonna sound like a robot for the whole song, the beat better jam like Daft Punks or suh'n.

the song is still terrible.

I clearly like PYT the song as a composition.

And a remake didn't have to sound so weak. Here's proof!

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Reply #206 posted 11/09/10 12:19am

novabrkr

It's just a remake and they're seldom that special. shrug

The autotune sounds very cheap on it, but it always sounds cheap when it's overused.

I don't think there's anything too strange about old artists releasing "updated" versions of material they were involved with during their most successful years. Quincy Jones has done a lot of covers anyway, so it seems like a natural choice. The track might have been also chosen for an inclusion on his record, because Quincy Jones was given also a songwriting credit for it originally. Notice that Michael himself wasn't. It's not like Quincy is insisting on including this version on all the future editions of "Thriller".

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Reply #207 posted 11/09/10 2:10am

SoulAlive

NDRU said:

Ellie said:

Then what gives him the right to have an album with his name or face on it? Makes me doubt the extent of his involvement in his successful projects like The Dude.

I like Quincy JOnes's music,and it's hard to deny his involvement in a huge number of successful projects, from MIles to Frank to Michael to his own stuff.

But there has long been a question in my mind of what he actually does

Very good point.Quincy seems like the type of producer who basically brings together a bunch of talented musicians and supervises their work.In the case of 'Thriller',Michael had already written and recorded a few demos before entering the studio with Quincy.

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Reply #208 posted 11/09/10 5:18am

Harlepolis

SoulAlive said:

NDRU said:

I like Quincy JOnes's music,and it's hard to deny his involvement in a huge number of successful projects, from MIles to Frank to Michael to his own stuff.

But there has long been a question in my mind of what he actually does

Very good point.Quincy seems like the type of producer who basically brings together a bunch of talented musicians and supervises their work.In the case of 'Thriller',Michael had already written and recorded a few demos before entering the studio with Quincy.

Back then, the "arranger" term was more used than producer, which is the practical term that describes Quincy just as much it described Gil Evans, Arif Mardin, Jerry Wexler, Willie Mitchell.

Those guys provided the musicians, the setting and how an album should be recorded.

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Reply #209 posted 11/09/10 5:47am

novabrkr

Really? I've never seen the word "arranger" used in that manner. That sounds exactly what a "producer" does, or rather, used to do in the past decades. An arranger is the person who provides the musical arrangements for the songs, by taking into account what type of musicians and instruments are going to be involved. That's exactly what someone like Gil Evans did.

In some cases, an "arranger" may be someone who writes only specific parts for the music. For example, Clare Fischer has done many string arrangements for Prince's songs. I've never seen the term being used for "arranging" organizational and practical matters.

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