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Reply #30 posted 10/30/10 1:15am

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laurarichardson said:

BlaqueKnight said:

This ballad is better than any falsetto ballad Prince has done is YEARS.

He took the falsetto crown just like D'Angelo did when he dropped Untitled.

I still think Maxwell is a better singer than all of them but I have to give Eric props on this one. Its a serious display of his vocal skills.

It is a good song but it does not top Adore.

No, but it tops 95% of Prince's ballads in the past 15-18 years or so.

Dude put it down on this record.

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Reply #31 posted 10/30/10 1:43am

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laurarichardson said:



BlaqueKnight said:




This ballad is better than any falsetto ballad Prince has done is YEARS.



He took the falsetto crown just like D'Angelo did when he dropped Untitled.


I still think Maxwell is a better singer than all of them but I have to give Eric props on this one. Its a serious display of his vocal skills.




It is a good song but it does not top Adore.


Not trying to be a smart but Adore was done YEARS ago so I guess you are agreeing.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #32 posted 10/30/10 9:44am

ThreadBare

Eric's always had a wonderful voice. This song showcases it well. And, that falsetto's incredibly strong.

Durn tenors... hrmph

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Reply #33 posted 10/30/10 9:49am

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BlaqueKnight said:

This ballad is better than any falsetto ballad Prince has done is YEARS.

He took the falsetto crown just like D'Angelo did when he dropped Untitled.

I still think Maxwell is a better singer than all of them but I have to give Eric props on this one. Its a serious display of his vocal skills.

It peeves me people feel the need to credit artists by discrediting Prince at the same time.

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Reply #34 posted 10/30/10 9:50am

NMuzakNSoul

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Eric's always had a wonderful voice. This song showcases it well. And, that falsetto's incredibly strong.

Durn tenors... hrmph

What vocal type are you? Baritone, bass?

I'm more of a Baritone. lol

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Reply #35 posted 10/30/10 10:14am

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NMuzakNSoul said:

ThreadBare said:

Eric's always had a wonderful voice. This song showcases it well. And, that falsetto's incredibly strong.

Durn tenors... hrmph

What vocal type are you? Baritone, bass?

I'm more of a Baritone. lol

Yeah, man. Baritone comfortably, really. Bass early in the morning. lol But, pushed to be a second tenor by a twisted choir director in college.

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Reply #36 posted 10/30/10 11:54am

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Nah, sounds more like Earth, Wind and Fire mixed with Maxwell.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #37 posted 10/30/10 12:56pm

NMuzakNSoul

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NMuzakNSoul said:

What vocal type are you? Baritone, bass?

I'm more of a Baritone. lol

Yeah, man. Baritone comfortably, really. Bass early in the morning. lol But, pushed to be a second tenor by a twisted choir director in college.

Hear that. lol Man...sounds twisted indeed.

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Reply #38 posted 10/30/10 1:57pm

Harlepolis

Was there a meeting I didn't attend or some shit? lol Who the hell decided that Prince held the crown for falsetto singing?

Baby,,,,,after Wayne Cooper & that dude from Enchantment(I keep forgetting his name) the chance of somebody taking that crown(Prince included) is like snatching a meal out of a fat boy in his lunch break without getting his ass beat,,,,,,zero.

That being said, when it comes to falsetto and contemporary crooners, Rahsaan Patterson can floor Maxwell, Benet & D'Angelo combined,,,in his nap.

[Edited 10/30/10 13:58pm]

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Reply #39 posted 10/30/10 2:26pm

Vendetta1

Harlepolis said:

Was there a meeting I didn't attend or some shit? lol Who the hell decided that Prince held the crown for falsetto singing?

Baby,,,,,after Wayne Cooper & that dude from Enchantment(I keep forgetting his name) the chance of somebody taking that crown(Prince included) is like snatching a meal out of a fat boy in his lunch break without getting his ass beat,,,,,,zero.

That being said, when it comes to falsetto and contemporary crooners, Rahsaan Patterson can floor Maxwell, Benet & D'Angelo combined,,,in his nap.

[Edited 10/30/10 13:58pm]

EJ Johnson is dude from Enchantment.

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Reply #40 posted 10/30/10 2:31pm

Harlepolis

Vendetta1 said:

Harlepolis said:

Was there a meeting I didn't attend or some shit? lol Who the hell decided that Prince held the crown for falsetto singing?

Baby,,,,,after Wayne Cooper & that dude from Enchantment(I keep forgetting his name) the chance of somebody taking that crown(Prince included) is like snatching a meal out of a fat boy in his lunch break without getting his ass beat,,,,,,zero.

That being said, when it comes to falsetto and contemporary crooners, Rahsaan Patterson can floor Maxwell, Benet & D'Angelo combined,,,in his nap.

[Edited 10/30/10 13:58pm]

EJ Johnson is dude from Enchantment.

Thanx sis,,,I could never remember that cat's name for some reason lol

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Reply #41 posted 10/30/10 2:40pm

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Harlepolis said:

Vendetta1 said:

EJ Johnson is dude from Enchantment.

Thanx sis,,,I could never remember that cat's name for some reason lol

No crown for him then, I guess. lol

wink

Rahsaan's a bad boy, too.

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Reply #42 posted 10/30/10 2:41pm

Timmy84

Harlepolis said:

Was there a meeting I didn't attend or some shit? lol Who the hell decided that Prince held the crown for falsetto singing?

Baby,,,,,after Wayne Cooper & that dude from Enchantment(I keep forgetting his name) the chance of somebody taking that crown(Prince included) is like snatching a meal out of a fat boy in his lunch break without getting his ass beat,,,,,,zero.

That being said, when it comes to falsetto and contemporary crooners, Rahsaan Patterson can floor Maxwell, Benet & D'Angelo combined,,,in his nap.

[Edited 10/30/10 13:58pm]

To me these are the real kings of falsetto singing:

[img:$uid]http://www.forevermoremusic.com/portals/0/russell/RussellJamacia1.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://img.skitch.com/20090117-rqc3c3u7ggw7ma5nxrwixjwnt6.preview.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://helium.lunarpages.com/~funky4/pictures/kendricks.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://www.concordmusicgroup.com/artists/images/Bailey_Philipsmall.jpg[/img:$uid] (I'm still mad about his hairstyle here lol)

[img:$uid]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/10/18/1255879362442/The-Dells-001.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_layoug6YMU1qb6n9lo1_500.jpg[/img:$uid]

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[Edited 10/30/10 14:43pm]

[Edited 10/30/10 14:47pm]

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Reply #43 posted 10/30/10 2:54pm

Vendetta1

Say that shit Timmy. clapping

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Reply #44 posted 10/30/10 3:03pm

Timmy84

Vendetta1 said:

Say that shit Timmy. clapping

cool

And besides near the end of the song, I hear more Phillip Bailey influence there. lol

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Reply #45 posted 10/30/10 3:06pm

Vendetta1

Timmy84 said:

Vendetta1 said:

Say that shit Timmy. clapping

cool

And besides near the end of the song, I hear more Phillip Bailey influence there. lol

I thought it was D'Angelo when I first heard it. lol

But I always thought Eric was influenced by Prince. He sounds just like him on his version of If You Want Me To Stay.

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Reply #46 posted 10/30/10 3:07pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:

cool

And besides near the end of the song, I hear more Phillip Bailey influence there. lol

I thought it was D'Angelo when I first heard it. lol

But I always thought Eric was influenced by Prince. He sounds just like him on his version of If You Want Me To Stay.

No doubt he was lol

But me personally I think he was influenced by a lot of singers who sung in that way anyway so Prince was going to be in there somewhere in his growing up. I can hear it in some songs. nod

I really don't care, long as the song is good I won't compare. I like it. nod

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Reply #47 posted 10/30/10 4:45pm

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Right Timmy. Nobody but NOBODY can touch Philip Bailey... not Swith, El, Prince, Maxwell, nobody!

"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #48 posted 10/30/10 6:24pm

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Paris9748430 said:

It's a good song, but I'm I the only one who thinks it's weird for a guy to do a song that's heavily influenced by his girlfriend's ex-husband?

Either way, I think Call My Name is a better song, and Prince has written many songs better than that.

Sometimes I Cry is a good song, though.

yeahthat I'd probably take When Eye Lay My Hands On U over this as well, but it's still a good song.

Oh, and Prince didn't invent the falsetto; as much as Do Me, Baby and Adore may lead you to believe otherwise lol

chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #49 posted 10/30/10 6:27pm

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With this track, Eric Benet's falsetto does remind me of Prince from within the Diamonds & Pearls/ prince era.

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Reply #50 posted 10/30/10 10:45pm

free0001

Here is my take on Eric Benet:

When all prejudiced opinions of his past, public indiscretions are put aside, Eric Benet should be recognized as one of the top 3 male R & B vocalists that have ever lived.

Put another way: Eric Benet is your favorite R and B singers favorite R and B singer.

The greats of old, Jackie Wilson, Nat Cole and the like would have given Eric the props that he deserves. All you have to do is listen....it's not like the evidence is not here for everyone to judge.

PS
I agree, Rahsaan Patterson is a great singer. But he is no Eric Benet...
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Reply #51 posted 10/30/10 11:03pm

Timmy84

It's all good that's your opinion but uh... lol

He's good though.

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Reply #52 posted 10/31/10 9:20am

Vendetta1

free0001 said:

Here is my take on Eric Benet: When all prejudiced opinions of his past, public indiscretions are put aside, Eric Benet should be recognized as one of the top 3 male R & B vocalists that have ever lived. Put another way: Eric Benet is your favorite R and B singers favorite R and B singer. The greats of old, Jackie Wilson, Nat Cole and the like would have given Eric the props that he deserves. All you have to do is listen....it's not like the evidence is not here for everyone to judge. PS I agree, Rahsaan Patterson is a great singer. But he is no Eric Benet...

Stop. Just please stop. I seriously hope you are just kidding.

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Reply #53 posted 10/31/10 12:25pm

free0001

Vendetta1 said:



free0001 said:


Here is my take on Eric Benet: When all prejudiced opinions of his past, public indiscretions are put aside, Eric Benet should be recognized as one of the top 3 male R & B vocalists that have ever lived. Put another way: Eric Benet is your favorite R and B singers favorite R and B singer. The greats of old, Jackie Wilson, Nat Cole and the like would have given Eric the props that he deserves. All you have to do is listen....it's not like the evidence is not here for everyone to judge. PS I agree, Rahsaan Patterson is a great singer. But he is no Eric Benet...

Stop. Just please stop. I seriously hope you are just kidding.



Based upon vocal tone, sense of rhythm, vocal range, delivery, and style, I stand by my statement.


No kidding whatsoever.

That's like the heavy metal crowd who declare that Prince is a low-level guitarist. The sonic evidence is there for them to judge by as well. But they somehow are prejudiced, based upon their perception of him as a person.

Do you have a second to explain why you thought I was kidding?
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Reply #54 posted 10/31/10 12:29pm

Vendetta1

free0001 said:

Vendetta1 said:

Stop. Just please stop. I seriously hope you are just kidding.

Based upon vocal tone, sense of rhythm, vocal range, delivery, and style, I stand by my statement. No kidding whatsoever. That's like the heavy metal crowd who declare that Prince is a low-level guitarist. The sonic evidence is there for them to judge by as well. But they somehow are prejudiced, based upon their perception of him as a person. Do you have a second to explain why you thought I was kidding?

I'm sorry but it sounded like you were stating your opinion as fact. Never mind.

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Reply #55 posted 10/31/10 12:46pm

free0001

Vendetta1 said:



free0001 said:


Vendetta1 said:


Stop. Just please stop. I seriously hope you are just kidding.



Based upon vocal tone, sense of rhythm, vocal range, delivery, and style, I stand by my statement. No kidding whatsoever. That's like the heavy metal crowd who declare that Prince is a low-level guitarist. The sonic evidence is there for them to judge by as well. But they somehow are prejudiced, based upon their perception of him as a person. Do you have a second to explain why you thought I was kidding?

I'm sorry but it sounded like you were stating your opinion as fact. Never mind.



No problem V.
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Reply #56 posted 10/31/10 12:53pm

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I think most would agree that Eric Benet is an excellent R&B vocalist. It's his material that leaves much to be desired, in my opinion. In my opinion, Benet has yet to do anything interesting with his beautiful voice. His work is solidly middle of the road r&b/quietstorm and doesn't have a spark or a uniqueness to set him apart or ahead of the other dozens of tier II R&b men, even though he has that outstanding voice.

Someone mentioned Rahsaan. I wouldn't compare their voices because they are so different, however I will say that I think Rahsaan has the spark and unique quality that Benet is lacking. Each of his albums feel different from the others, and most of his work stands out among his peers-not soundling like the same smooth jam we've all heard hundreds of times. That's why Rahsaan is special.

I wish Benet could get some more interesting material. But maybe this is the material he prefers.

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Reply #57 posted 10/31/10 1:45pm

free0001

119 said:

I think most would agree that Eric Benet is an excellent R&B vocalist. It's his material that leaves much to be desired, in my opinion. In my opinion, Benet has yet to do anything interesting with his beautiful voice. His work is solidly middle of the road r&b/quietstorm and doesn't have a spark or a uniqueness to set him apart or ahead of the other dozens of tier II R&b men, even though he has that outstanding voice.


Someone mentioned Rahsaan. I wouldn't compare their voices because they are so different, however I will say that I think Rahsaan has the spark and unique quality that Benet is lacking. Each of his albums feel different from the others, and most of his work stands out among his peers-not soundling like the same smooth jam we've all heard hundreds of times. That's why Rahsaan is special.


I wish Benet could get some more interesting material. But maybe this is the material he prefers.



You make a great point 119! I have to push the 'agree' button.
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Reply #58 posted 10/31/10 1:57pm

Timmy84

119 said:

I think most would agree that Eric Benet is an excellent R&B vocalist. It's his material that leaves much to be desired, in my opinion. In my opinion, Benet has yet to do anything interesting with his beautiful voice. His work is solidly middle of the road r&b/quietstorm and doesn't have a spark or a uniqueness to set him apart or ahead of the other dozens of tier II R&b men, even though he has that outstanding voice.

Someone mentioned Rahsaan. I wouldn't compare their voices because they are so different, however I will say that I think Rahsaan has the spark and unique quality that Benet is lacking. Each of his albums feel different from the others, and most of his work stands out among his peers-not soundling like the same smooth jam we've all heard hundreds of times. That's why Rahsaan is special.

I wish Benet could get some more interesting material. But maybe this is the material he prefers.

yeahthat

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Reply #59 posted 10/31/10 6:02pm

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okay, now I have to check out Rashaan Patterson. I remember that I really liked one song he made... I think it was "Spend the night". But I don't remember much more than that.

Going to youtube.

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